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niexam
post Jun 2 2008, 01:13 AM


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Hi all.

I need to make one copy of door access card. I just rented an apartment but unfortunately for each apartment was given only 4 door access card. And I am the 5th guy who is now renting in the same place.

So I need to make a copy of door access card for me to enter to the lobby.

Where can I make the door access card? The door access card is the thick one, i think the same one use in many offices.

Hope any guys out there can help me on this.
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post Jun 2 2008, 01:25 AM


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can duplicate the key at key shop...did mine at 1utama...
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post Jun 2 2008, 09:52 AM


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ts mention bout access card le..not key
btw,i`ve never seen any service for card..usually only for key..

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post Jun 2 2008, 10:16 AM


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shazmie,

i know where to duplicate keys. many places to do that.

what i want to duplicate is the access card.

it is so hard to ask the guard to open lobby door and have to write my name down every time i enter lobby.

anyone got any idea? i really appreciate it.
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post Jun 2 2008, 10:24 AM


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Why didnt you ask from your landlord instead? Since you rented his property , he SHOULD give you the card.
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post Jun 2 2008, 11:01 AM


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card access for each system is different, so if you wana duplicate the card you goto go back to the management.
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niexam
post Jun 2 2008, 12:29 PM


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guys/gals,

Thanks for the replies.

Already try asking the landlord and management. They say rules-only 4 cards for each apartment.

The card is the thick one. I believe they call it weigand card or something. I know there is a chip inside with some coil for transmission.

I am not hi tech type of person so hopefully someone can help me on this.
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post Jun 2 2008, 12:41 PM


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tell landlord if they refuse to give u another key, u move out to another unit
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post Jun 2 2008, 12:50 PM


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aladdin,

if key is the concern, then can easily make duplicate. i need the access card, dats all.

moving to another unit, alamak la brother, already pay 2+1. agreement is minimum 3 months.

if i could move to another unit and get my $$ back, i would have done it.
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post Jun 2 2008, 12:58 PM


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Too bad then..
I dont think its able to duplicate the card, even if got that service it will be expensive.

And rules are rules and what u asking here isnt exactly legal.

If anyone can duplicate the access card, do u think its secured?
I believe the system is secured enough and the card will not be able to duplicated easily.
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post Jun 2 2008, 01:08 PM


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WaCKy-Angel,

dats why i am asking if anybody offer the service. as for cost, let me know how much it cost. if too expensive, no need la.

as for legal or not legal, dat one i dont know. but very inconvenient when the guards is not around and then i have to wait for him to open up the door.

as for secure or not secure, i already ask a friend. he says dat type of card is not dat secured just like the magnetic stripe one. it produces the same signal if you put it close to the reader and dat signal can be duplicate if you are savvy enuf.

so now i need a place where i can clone the card. i can borrow my housemate's card for a while and bring it for cloning.
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post Jun 2 2008, 03:04 PM


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It's called a MIFARE card IIRC.

The system uses a unique ID inside each card to access a door. The problem here is the manufacturers of the cards make every card unique, like a MAC address for a LAN card. This makes duplication near impoosible.

The management IIRC provides you a unique card, and then the card's number is programmed into the system under an "allow" list, the MIFARE system i installed at my old man's office operates off the same idea. This makes it pretty much impossible to crack, and duplication requires a specialized transmission unit that fakes the "query" signal.

Bottom Line is, even if the the service is available, it's gonna be shit expensive.
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post Jun 2 2008, 03:11 PM


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empire23,

is mifare card as thin as touch n go card ?

my friend told me the one like touch n go is really difficult to clone but the one that my apartment is using is the thick one with some kind of coil inside ( i think it is copper). i peek a look into my housemate's. his card peel off a bit already on one corner.

dat is weigand card or something.
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post Jun 2 2008, 03:16 PM


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QUOTE(niexam @ Jun 2 2008, 03:11 PM)
empire23,

is mifare card as thin as touch n go card ?

my friend told me the one like touch n go is really difficult to clone but the one that my apartment is using is the thick one with some kind of coil inside ( i think it is copper). i peek a look into my housemate's. his card peel off a bit already on one corner.

dat is weigand card or something.
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Yeah, mifare is the fat one where you can see the coil inside (antenna and vampire unit) under a bright light.

Most MIFARE cards come with encryption.

In my opinion, the easier way to do things is to buy your own MIFARE card (compatible version) and bribe a management employee to put the card under the "allowed access" list on the main computer.

It's note very likely that you'll get past the system with duplication Weigand Effect and other RF based cards are notoriously hard to duplicate.

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post Jun 2 2008, 03:23 PM


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'..In my opinion, the easier way to do things is to buy your own MIFARE card (compatible version) and bribe a management employee to put the card under the "allowed access" list on the main computer...'

Man, why didn't i think of that?

Where can I buy the mifare card? And how much ah?

Thanks bro.
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post Jun 2 2008, 03:27 PM


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QUOTE(niexam @ Jun 2 2008, 03:23 PM)
'..In my opinion, the easier way to do things is to buy your own MIFARE card (compatible version) and bribe a management employee to put the card under the "allowed access" list on the main computer...'

Man, why didn't i think of that?

Where can I buy the mifare card? And how much ah?

Thanks bro.
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I seriously wouldn't know. It's been 2 to 3 years since i've installed such a system, did a crash course by reading the manual and guessing all the commands while accessing it via RS-434 Long Range Protocol. Plus you must ID the version of the card and reader.

Problem is that suppliers usually expect you to buy in batches of 50 to 100.

And hell i shouldn't be saying too much since i don't know you and it might be duplicated for illegal reasons man.
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post Jun 2 2008, 03:43 PM


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don't worry in terms of illegality. i just got fed up with having to wait for the guards to open up the door. sometimes I went back at 2am but no guards. what else can i do? call my housemate who is probably sleeping already to open up the lobby door for me?

as for supplier with buying in batches, alamak. back to square one.
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QUOTE(niexam @ Jun 2 2008, 01:13 AM)
Hi all.

I need to make one copy of door access card. I just rented an apartment but unfortunately for each apartment was given only 4 door access card. And I am the 5th guy who is now renting in the same place.

So I need to make a copy of door access card for me to enter to the lobby.

Where can I make the door access card? The door access card is the thick one, i think the same one use in many offices.

Hope any guys out there can help me on this.
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