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rayloke
post Sep 9 2008, 03:10 AM

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QUOTE(charmy @ Sep 8 2008, 03:09 PM)
To all Sifu, how to make those Mr.Metal color looks shine? coz i have handpaint using Mr.Metal color (Dark Iron) on my 1/100 Infinite Justice but after i try 2 buff it it still not shine de....how to make it like those real iron effect? hope sumone can help  me sad.gif
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metallic paint looks shiny cause the surface is smooth. dun get me wrong, i m not saying adding a gloss top coat here. when the surface is smooth, it will reflect light in a uniform manner, which to our eyes, a lot of light is reflected at the same time, same angle. hence, to us, it's shiny.

why we need to buff the metallic paint is before by rubbing lightly on the paint (after dry), we can rearrange the molecule of the paint, making them arrange nicely and hence smoother surface and to our eyes, shiny.

that's why ab is better than handpaint. coz ab will give a more even surface than handpaint.

besides that, u also gotta be careful with the surface BEFORE u apply the metallic paint. if the surface is uneven/rough, no matter how many u buff, it still wont be shiny.

so when u use this metallic paint, make sure your surface is smooth. u can try on some smooth surface, like a piece of iron, or even mirror. even your hand paint, the effect is superb.

Many sifu us handpaint method on metallic paint. if u have seen erix work during mid year compy this year, u can see all his many of his shiny shinyu metallic parts are actually hand painted.


P/S: this type metallic paint will rust. after few months or a year, the shine will become duller.
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post Sep 9 2008, 09:17 AM

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oic...thx a lot guys...will try those method n c how? so after i apply those metal color paint then if i spray a light coat of gloss will it protect the shine from dull?
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post Sep 9 2008, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(erh_teo @ Sep 8 2008, 05:05 PM)


Added on September 8, 2008, 5:06 pm

u want to know wat was used to achieve that or how to do that? blink.gif
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Sorry my question was confusing. I want to know what was used to achieve that. If I may, I'd like to learn how to do that also... smile.gif
Here's the picture again:
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And the question is: What was used to draw the fine lines of the eyebrows & eye lashes?
I was hoping the Gundam sifus in this thread might know of an ultra fine brush or marker that might be able to do this.
madmoz
post Sep 9 2008, 03:47 PM

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mr surfacer white and mr base white what's the difference ar?
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post Sep 9 2008, 04:11 PM

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surfacer white itself is a surfacer, white base is a "white base", not a surfacer.. in laymen terms.. is to provide a white color base for light color coats, therefore is not a surfacer.
if u use white base without surfacer beneath, is jus paint without priming.

then what's the diff wt white base wt white?
as u know mr. color's white has poor coverage, white base is more opague.
u will likely have less thick coat to compensate for adequate coverage..

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post Sep 9 2008, 04:15 PM

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so better to use mr surfacer white then? as opposed to mr base white?

nod.gif i'm using base white too paint white too, otherwise so hard to get pure 'white'. What is the ratio for base white / thinner? Am using spray cans (for surfacer and base white) at the moment cause i had some nightmares with thinning mr surfacer earlier shakehead.gif

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post Sep 9 2008, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(Kinster @ Sep 9 2008, 03:36 PM)
Sorry my question was confusing. I want to know what was used to achieve that. If I may, I'd like to learn how to do that also... smile.gif
Here's the picture again:
user posted image

And the question is: What was used to draw the fine lines of the eyebrows & eye lashes?
I was hoping the Gundam sifus in this thread might know of an ultra fine brush or marker that might be able to do this.
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as far as i know if u looking for marker, the finest available in market is copic marker @ 0.02mm tip, not sure fine enuf for the eyebrow effect not la..


Added on September 9, 2008, 4:25 pm
QUOTE(madmoz @ Sep 9 2008, 04:15 PM)
so better to use mr surfacer white then? as opposed to mr base white?

nod.gif  i'm using base white too paint white too, otherwise so hard to get pure 'white'. What is the ratio for base white / thinner? Am using spray cans (for surfacer and base white) at the moment cause i had some nightmares with thinning mr surfacer earlier  shakehead.gif
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there is diff.. of course there's reason tech guys at gunze have to come out wt both white surfacer and white base.

if u use white surfacer, there's a lower chance to detect kit surface defect as compare to normal grey surfacer.
in this case (unless ur eyes really well trained), white surfacer is merely providing a firm foundation layer b4 painting and oso a flat white base coat so ur paint color later won't run fr it's ori color.

otherwise, surfacer > white base > color

my suggestion:
if u r doing oob and no major sanding and opting for light color like white or yellow, straight use white surfacer
if u r doing major sanding but don really bother if hairline scratch may present, straight use white surfacer
u r a perfectionist then : surfacer > check error > surfacer > satisfy > white base > color coat

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post Sep 9 2008, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(erh_teo @ Sep 9 2008, 04:18 PM)
as far as i know if u looking for marker, the finest available in market is copic marker @ 0.02mm tip, not sure fine enuf for the eyebrow effect not la..
Thanks for your reply. Is the copic marker expensive? Where can I find one?
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post Sep 9 2008, 04:43 PM

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heheh thanks erh_teo, time to go a hunting for supplies again then!
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post Sep 9 2008, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(Kinster @ Sep 9 2008, 04:34 PM)
Thanks for your reply. Is the copic marker expensive? Where can I find one?
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it look like this Attached Image

but forgot where have d tongue.gif
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post Sep 9 2008, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(erh_teo @ Sep 9 2008, 04:44 PM)
it look like this Attached Image

but forgot where have d tongue.gif
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Okay, thanks again for the pic. I'll go ask around and see who sells them. smile.gif
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post Sep 9 2008, 04:57 PM

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AF Hobby sells these. Or try your luck in art shops cause copic is a rather famous marker ink brand.
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post Sep 9 2008, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(madmoz @ Sep 9 2008, 04:57 PM)
AF Hobby sells these. Or try your luck in art shops cause copic is a rather famous marker ink brand.
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AF Hobby, the one above Guardian in Tmn Putra, Ampang?
Thanks for the info. Any idea what the price will be like, madmoz?
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post Sep 9 2008, 05:03 PM

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not sure, been a while since i got a new one. why don't you ask him!
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post Sep 9 2008, 05:03 PM

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Hokay, thanks! biggrin.gif
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post Sep 9 2008, 05:05 PM

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copic pens, try ask sunnyboy... duno he still brings them in or not
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post Sep 9 2008, 05:20 PM

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Err, who is sunnyboy?
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post Sep 9 2008, 05:42 PM

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nevermind.. u fr kl right.. just head straight to af hobby..
sunnyboy fr perak la..
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post Sep 9 2008, 07:10 PM

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yea, but sunnyboy do postage one
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post Sep 9 2008, 08:15 PM

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af selling the copic pen for RM15...

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