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Movies The Curious Case of Benjamin Button, A Film by DAVID FINCHER

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post May 24 2008, 01:22 PM

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Gosh I love Pitt and Blanchett and Fincher. Will have to watch this.
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post May 24 2008, 06:04 PM

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It has a Sweeney Todd vibe about it, the poster and the release date, lol.
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post Nov 13 2008, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(Makakeke @ Nov 13 2008, 10:47 PM)
Batman won't take the Oscar, regardless of this movie.
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Which film you think will?
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post Jan 1 2009, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(rhoyo @ Jan 1 2009, 03:20 PM)
ok guys i just watch this . and i must say this will win a best picture cause it shows the timeline and a lot of cool scenes .. too bad the ending was not really depicted on the short story
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Australia had 'timeline' and 'cool scenes.' Max Payne had 'cool scenes.' And No Country For Old Men didn't have 'timeline' nor 'cool scenes' and yet it won.
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post Feb 13 2009, 11:08 PM

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I really hated this movie. I really did. I don't understand the Best Picture nomination for it at all.

I hope some of you could answer these questions for me:
- How the heck did BB know about Daisy's crash? About all the little things happening that led to that tragic event? The whole movie were either told through his eyes or Daisy's and neither could know about these little little things?
- Struck X times by lightning? Again, what's the purpose?
- Why include Katrina?
- Born a baby, dies a baby? Come on! Why not die a sperm and an ovum, then?
- How much do we know or like about Benjamin Button? He likes Daisy, he ages backwards, his dad disowned him, he met THREE interesting characters (Captain, swimmer and piano teacher) but what else? I couldn't feel for his character nor did I really care for him as well.

I would have loved to love this movie especially seeing how beautiful it is to look at but it just felled empty. In a year where we have two great films being carried by two great performances, Benjamin Button isn't either one of the two films in my humble opinion.
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QUOTE(vetkin_gray @ Feb 13 2009, 11:24 PM)
i agree fully.. except the born a baby thing cos its what attracted me to watch the movie so 1 point for "Originality"

but the thing i hate most bout this movie is ... brad pitt. his acting is just stale and overrated.. i cant stand watching his dyyyyyiinnng face.. a razzie's award maybe?

the only award it should be considered for oscars is "Best Visual Effects" (all the old brad pitt was CGI-ed)
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Pitt's actually one of my favorite actors and I've admired Fincher up to Zodiac (well maybe Panic Room). But the last 3 have been underwhelming for me. If he directs Torso, I'll be drool.gif
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post Feb 23 2009, 05:06 PM

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I watched it twice and still thought it was 30 minutes too long or rather, they could have used the 30 minutes to tell us about Benjamin Button and his feelings.

I did not feel anything at all through out the show, sure a tug at the heart when Button found out he was going to be a dad because he wouldn't be able to take care of his daughter but that's about it from Button. Second time I felt something was when he yelled out 'You f***ing liars.'

Was he subtle or just plain passive and dull? Oh and his name is Benjamin Button, do we know anything about him?
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QUOTE(QuickFire @ Feb 23 2009, 05:25 PM)
What do you mean we dont know anything about him? I dont think he was dull. It was not a showy performance, but he did very well as a normal man stuck with an abnormal body. He was a bit cold, and the tone of the film is a little cold, but I think that was deliberate and somehow it works and I really did feel for the characters. When did he yell "you f***ing liars"? I dont think I heard that in the cinema, though I'm positive there were a few minor cuts here and there.
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1. I mean exactly what I said. What do we know about Benjamin Button after 2h plus? He basically does nothing, NOTHING interesting in the movie. He observes life and lives it but how did the events that he went through affect him? Where's the character development? Benjamin Button seemed incredibly emotionally void. When 'Momma' died, you'd think that he'll feel something but no, he just stares blankly with Daisy.
2. Why would a normal man stuck with an abnormal body be cold? He showed very little emotion apart when he was caught sneaking out with Daisy at night and the old lady said "You should be ashamed at yourself." He cried and Momma tells him "You're not like other boys."

And I too have a problem when Benjamin Button talked to the lady who taught him piano when he told her that he was aging backwards and she said something along the lines of "I'd feel sorry for you having to watch all your loved ones go." Doesn't aging forward require the same thing? unsure.gif What's with the "struck by lightning seven times?"

What did you make of the hospital scenes? I thought that ruined the movie for me as well. Just when I wanted to know what happened next in Button's life, they stop for a couple of excruciatingly unnecessary tedious minutes before going back to the story.

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QUOTE(QuickFire @ Feb 23 2009, 07:01 PM)
I believe this is one of those films that for me I didn't need to ask what kind of person he was, what motivates him to do this and that, etc. It feels natural to me. He was a boy/man who wanted to be normal, and despite the extraordinary circumstances he was put in, acted as best he could to be normal. Apart from his appearance, he was not an extraordinary man. He was like us. Besides, I would expect someone who ages backwards to be pretty passive in real life. The film's tone and Benjamin's demeanor can be cold, and as such the surface of the film feels cold, but once you get through it, the film gets through to you. It's one of those "you-get-it-or-you-dont-get-it" things I suppose. And it certainly clicked with me. People say this would be an ordinary movie with the backwards aging taken out.
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But the trouble is for me, it's still an ordinary movie IN SPITE of him aging backwards which was/is my main gripe (make up aside). I mean, a person observing life, seeing people die and falling in love could be done with a man aging forwards. So why introduce the concept of aging backwards besides showing that it could be done on screen? Though not in the same category, it was like watching The Nutty Professor.

QUOTE(QuickFire @ Feb 23 2009, 07:01 PM)
Speaking of other films, I understand some of the comparisons with Forrest Gump, but I don't buy all of it. This feels like a very different film. The exterior is colder, the mood/tone much more sombre, and appropriately it is a more contemplative film that Forrest Gump. My first impression is that this is a film I would want to rewatch when I am 40, again when I am 50, 60, etc.
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Contemplative? What did you get out of the movie? All I got was: WTF?!

QUOTE(QuickFire @ Feb 23 2009, 07:01 PM)
When he catches up with his age in his forties, and he looks his age, I genuinely felt happy for him, and at the same time, I felt sorry for him... for them... because it wouldn't last. It's heartbreaking that you wait 40 years of you life to reach there and to have it disappear so fast after.
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He loved Daisy? I really didn't sense it especially how he screwed with one, two.....twenty, twenty-one women over the years as he 'longed' to be with Daisy. So I didn't really sense the love Button had for Daisy and when Button left Daisy, all she did was stare at him. What was she thinking?

The concept of two people aging differently having to wait for forty years to be together should be tragic, sad and heartwarming but no, it's COLD - as you mentioned. It shouldn't feel that way, at least to me. And you would think that love would be better expressed rather than:-

Daisy: Will you sleep with me?
Button: Absolutely.

I've not come across a movie where I cared so little about the title character, more so when it's an Academy Award nominated film.

QUOTE(QuickFire @ Feb 23 2009, 07:01 PM)
I assume she said that because all his loved ones were the old folks at the house since he was raised there, and they would go before he did. He wasn't surrounded by his peers. His only equal was Daisy. The struck by lightning thingy was just a running gag. Funny for the first few times but probably just about overstayed its welcome. Oh btw to the guys above, the first time he talks about it, two instances of the lightning striking him were shown, maybe you guys missed that and thus only counted six?
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Love? How could Button love people he had no connection with. They were just detached from him (too old and too young) bar the piano teacher. You may argue they were parental figures but I'd disagree. They were annoyed by him wheeling in and out of the house in his wheelchair and they certainly were annoyed with him playing with the forks and knifes at the dinner table, showing they didn't like him much. And the two deaths he was supposed to have connection with (piano teacher and Momma), he felt nothing.

I didn't get the gag, completely and utterly pointless and added to a painfully long running time. Make it a 2 hour film and perhaps, it would have been better. 2h 45m seemed a desperate attempt to seem 'epic.'

QUOTE(QuickFire @ Feb 23 2009, 07:01 PM)
This I agree to an extent. It (obviously) didn't ruin the movie for me, but it did spoil some of it. The drastic change in setting and colour was distracting, and it affected the flow (particularly early on), and the old lady's (btw, I read she was played by Blanchett, I wouldn't have known otherwise) voice was grating. Also, and this might be just me, but I didn't find her daughter interesting or of much use except to read the diary. The hospital scenes were by far the weakest in the film.
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What was the purpose of including Katrina in the narration? Made no sense to me.

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post Feb 23 2009, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(QuickFire @ Feb 23 2009, 08:00 PM)
I wont disagree that he looked emotionless, but I suspect it is in part subtlety and part David Fincher. Fincher's direction, the visuals and the film's tone complemented Pitt's performance very well. How much was it due to subtlety (or not)? I dont know.
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Emotionless =/= subtlety.
QUOTE(QuickFire @ Feb 23 2009, 08:00 PM)
I thought it was one of very few films which actually made me think about life and death and impermanence and to cherish what you have now. It might have only made me think of these fleetingly, but a film that accomplishes this at least succeeds in something. I dont know about you, but the seeing someone age backwards is to me very fascinating. I liked that the film didnt de-age Benjamin after each scene; Rather it really takes its time and slowly de-ages him. I liked that. Maybe you didnt think much of the concept, but I totally bought into the (novel) idea.
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Yes, they didn't de-age after each scene but the transition from teenager to boy was definitely anything but slow de-aging. What happened in between would have been fun, seeing Button cope with Daisy being erased from his memory. Could you imagine the pain of him writing his memories in a diary to remember it? I would have liked to see something like that.

QUOTE(QuickFire @ Feb 23 2009, 08:00 PM)
Actually that is another one of my problems, not that he screwed with many women, but that the film didn't put enough emphasis on the bond between them in the first half of the film, and so when they finally did come together the connection wasn't as strong as it could have been. There was chemistry, and the love was more authentic than the paper-thin Jamal-Latika love in Slumdog, but I think the film needs some scenes with both of them together, whether as children or adults, to really make us feel the bond. in short, I would have liked if they actually started something earlier, rather than so late, in the film.
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I think I made my point when I edited my post earlier (refer to above) but I liked Jamal-Latika more for the reason there was a sense of longing and fulfillment when he got her. It was certainly more wholesome to see two people go through hell to be together risking it all (millions of dollars and their lives) to be together than

Daisy: Will you sleep with me?
Button: Absolutely.

Where was the sense of longing we should have gotten from the scenes involving Blanchett and Pitt. Just as you didn't get Jamal-Latika, I didn't get Button-Daisy.


QUOTE(QuickFire @ Feb 23 2009, 08:00 PM)
The film isn't perfect... far from it. It isnt a masterpiece. But at the moment I do think it's a great film, at the very least a film with ambition that succeeds in places. Could it have been a better film? For sure, but until someone actually manages to come up with that film, I'm happy with this.
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With its problems (overly long, underdeveloped characters and story), it's still a great film? tongue.gif I would have no problems if this movie was labeled a good film but I feel there's a great injustice when it's nominated over TDK for Best Picture.


Added on February 23, 2009, 8:21 pm@ watching Mickey Rouke interviewed by Dominic Wong. He looks annoyed when he's called Penn's friend biggrin.gif

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