dota suck.really suck.nobody play warcraft normal game these days?!!!!

huh?? i guess u're really desperate and no anymore games to play?? change ur computer la , change ur graphic card....then u can enjoy many more interesting games den warcraft and dota..........dota dam boring wan la seriously....but understandable ur situation if ur computer not power enuf

Go for CRYSIS !!

mmmmmm....mega kill
wat do do?
everybody playing dota" every pc can support wif no problems"
go cc all dota, so dota lor..

Seriously I am curious. WHY everyone loves DOTA till they don't know warcraft 3?
Why so popular till its the only game 90% of ppl in CC play? Any theories?

P/S: Not bashing dota players. Just don't understand the DOTA trend that has swept the country

This post has been edited by Crazegamer: May 24 2008, 02:36 AM

u must have ALOT of friend that LOVES dota n u dunno/noob at dota

its just ur assumption that most of the dota players dunno how to play w3. And plz..dun take those small (emo)kids as example.

Why not,it's the most popular custom games in time.


Since then, the normal W3 game is bored.

yeap, those pro in dota are even pro in melee...in case u dunno

Agree Wahahaha xD

play dota make us feel cool and hensem lol.

no u r wrong..play dota makes us feel wild and release the beast inside of us.(we will shout,scream and bloodlust)

Wow... this i agree... even faul language also can come out... haha... to relief stress, maybe

If you spam, you gonna get flamed. Get a life rather than waste bandwidth spamming. Shakehead.

because normal warcraft is a boring game... it's good to hav dota (eventho i'm not playing it anymore since cabal is here)

dota.dota...haha

Vi sitter här I venten och spelar lite DOTA
å pushar på å smeker,
Med motståndet vi leker
Vi sitter här I venten och spelar lite DOTA
å springer runt å creepar,
Och motståndet vi sleepar

haha.u make me cry laughing,pure noob.
u got any idea how many hotkey we w3 player have to deal with when playing?u dont.
u ctrl only 1 hero in dota, play finger only at button a,s,alt,and plus another 3 or 2 key to perform skill/magic..and u claim u can still be pro when change to w3?pure noob.
yesterday i went to cc and saw many dota player and i look at the way they play.most of them,the way they playing,they click at the one point rapidly and keep pressing key 1 and 2(or f1 and f2) without any reason.why guys?why?!! i thought moving hero from fountain to 1st tower just need 1 click.
oh..i forgot..they duwan to looked noob.is not it?in w3 u got no time to waste to rapidly mousing at one point or u will lose.heard me?



dota player are all looser in wc3... that all.it is for noobs, thats why its growing n popular.

stop whining noob. u dun like then dont play lah

i had stop playing.don worry

dota nice to play..
bt i dun like when it come to quarreling bcome of some silly mistakes..
then keep ***-ing each other.. worse part is among team mates..
bt after the game, get along 2gether again.. then go mamak yumcha
xD haha..

ok what..... Js sometime when boring play so TD...

but normal game no more~

Maybe some people just want to enjoy their time instead of playing competitively?

Why you comparing dota and normal ladder games? Everyone know Dota has little or no micro involved at all except for sometimes when you use certain heroes or using certain items

Those people you mentioned like to click for nothing are just people who feels good doing so so why you bother? There are people who patrol around fountain while regen also and it makes them feel good when actually all it does it blocking your teamates but why bother about them?

There are players who played both ladder games and dota before but i dont see them complain like you do. Why dont you migrate to Korea and be a professional gamer there? We're only playing for the fun of it here not like you bother this bother that want to act as if you are much better than the rest of the dota players

Conclusion: Why bother playing war3? starcraft requires even more reflexes and micro...so this is your logic?

yeah, i agree. Noobs or not, why do u care so much. Its just a game for us, unless gaming is your profession

ppl are crazy of dota just because of the current majority of people`s choice...
whereever you go, u will see people playing dota...
and that`s really really cool to see these kind of things happen nowadays..
even an average computer can support dota...
so dats y people are going for dota...
more people more fun....thus,finding people to play against is so darn ez, cuz as i said, SO MANY PPL PLAYING, FIND 5 OUT OF ALL ARE JUST A PIECE OF CAKE..

after being years of playing this map, i found one thing that never change in Dota, no matter how pro you are you still learn stuff from this game, cheers

ya Every single map u need to think see and do research to be the best but still the more pro people out there too.

yalor not all people can support play high end game~~

Dota is easy for us to play with friend even their js have P4 in home

sour apples cant grow a tree you know, and self assuring comments bout how good you are aren't going to make things better

IMO, DOTA is a game that's so much easier than wc3. it's easy to jump on the boat. that's why people like it. just like CS. think of it as a more complex form of solitaire. everyone can play provided they can understand the game.

wc3 is a different beast. it requires skills. you can't simply jump in not knowing what you're facing. it requires strategy. not many people can handle the key management too.

i'm a wc3 player too, but i don't mind the dota trend. what i hate is when some kid claims they are experts on wc3 when their definition of wc3 is DOTA!!!

Lol true, some people thinks that wc3 is all about DOTA but actually it isnt. They dont even know DOTA is a custom map for wc3

Hard to blame them, they dont even know anything about the warcraft series. Only know to use it to DOTA

where i am ppl fanatic DOTA also, until dont play other game

The same map,a bunch of heroes(but i admit there are some that is really well made) with RPG gameplay.Technically a Diablo that can be finished in an hour.

It's a pretty innovative map mod with such limited tools in WC3.

Still what ruins it is the retarded community who thinks they are the best in RTS while the truth is,they cant play any RTS at all.Base building is like asking them to build a rocket and fly to space.Controling a few units is so difficult for them.Hence,they all just stick to this so called RTS and claim that they are pro in RTS.

I just hope the same disaster dont happen again in SC2.Keep all these emo retards from SC2.

I dont see DotA players enjoying playing this map.Screaming like an idiot in CCs,flame other just because they are better and the list goes on.It looks like you all take it so serious as if your life depends on it.

Thats not the way to enjoy playing games.Maybe thats how RTS retards enjoy it.

Yeah,not everyone can afford a quad core with 4 9800s.I always see these dota players can afford a 2k plus phone ,ipods or some other gadgets but not a new rig.

Besides,not all todays games require a high end rig.You just need to know which game to play.No one asking you to play Crysis.

I wanted to host our own lowyat.net league. The format will be sumthing like NGL...and ur group mates are ppl from LYN forum...but nobody seem to play la

For working people like me, i just want to spend my quality time (once a week) with my friends calling each other pure noob when playing a few games of dota. Then proceed to yumcha session and talk about our work. Not that we want to be like Korean gamers (Moon or soju) but is the quality of life we cherish. When you start working you will realize gaming as a profession in Msia is just different from Korea. So I think TS shouldnt bash here and there about how people doing things they love.

Dont get me wrong, personally I think melee players can play dota and catch up with it fairly easy and fast (i.e mouz.tod) if you know who he is. On the other hand, a dota player takes months to master a melee game. Now, a consolation prize for ya.

p/s: just stick with the popularity.

This post has been edited by keelim: Jun 6 2008, 07:03 PM

You dont see DOTA players enjoying playing the map? That is only what you think. Did you personally go ask them if they enjoy it? Seriously, if they arent enjoying it why do they want to play it in the first place?

Not everyone scream in CC. Dont generalize others. Whoever said anything about players taking DOTA seriously as if our life depends on it? We're talking about TS being arrogance and talking rubbish in the first place.

So what is the correct way to enjoy playing games? Certain people scream watching football match and certain people just keep quiet all the way. Its all up to an individual on how they want to enjoy their stuffs. You do not need to impose your way on them calling them RTS retards. You just made yourself look like one

Alot of us play DOTA as a way to socialise with our own peers. We just want to spend some time together during the night since guys have nothing much better to do at night than to chat at mamak or play games be it sports or electronic games. DOTA is a way for us to spend time together on.

This post has been edited by ChcGamer: Jun 6 2008, 07:16 PM

er,u dun understand what he meant?hes pointing out tat pro melee player plays dota too.
why?for fun?in case u dunno,paulyan,battleangel,cacingsutera plays it, cobo,marine,whoever r playing it as well.
they click to cancel animation?in w3 or sc,doesnt most of the players apm shoot up at the beginning of the game on useless action?why?to warm up n get their hands hot.

Well..I spam. to warm up...but if u are a team player and you love to cooperate then play dota..no one is stopping...but if u get fed up with ur teammates...then don blame them. That is why I play melee...coz there is only YOURSELF in melee

suka hati ppl 1 play dota la...noob

seriously i felt most young kids are the reason to be blame for shouting like a fag in cc..damn i hate playing at cc..prefer playing at home in battlenet..
so to you kids out there stop farking around when you get pawned or something..play game steady la..no nid shout shout wan...lucky i am old alrd if i am still young ah i sure tar pao this kind of kid wan..

Dota sucks becoz ur noob at it... Thats the only reason it sux.

just joined already bashing people

I have a friend who claims he is very good at strategy games especially Warcraft III and won many tournaments (don't know what tournaments are that)....

So i went to his house to watch him play expecting him to have some nice micro, hoping to learn something from him...

Guess what... I ended up watching him playing DOTA!!!! For him, DOTA = Warcraft, and Warcraft = DOTA, he actually refers DOTA as Warcraft III. What a joke...

is this some sort of sarcasm remarks?

no... i just wonder why Warcraft III is such a failure product....
All my friends are no longer calling it Warcraft, they all call the game DOTA instead...

some of them don't even know "warcraft" this term although they are playing it everyday...

I think i am not the only one here...

because less people plays the original warcraft gameplay....
now everyone use to call DOTA...

My group knows perfectly well the difference between War3 and DOTA

I guess intelligence does matters or maybe its age that matters

I guess some people are just pure ignorant.

All these statements like DotA made by Blizzard are all from them.

Should be some people who never play game before.

I even have a DotA addicted friend who argue with me that DDR3 is the new GC from nVidia.Some of them are just brainless.He thinks he can play dota means he know all about com hardware.

Yeah some of them who have never heard of Warcraft series would make their own assumptions that DOTA is Warcraft. I wonder how can those people never heard of the Warcraft series

Maybe they're too young at that time or they arent PC gamers at all. Probably got hooked to DOTA through friends intro or because its the "in" thing for them

Still, this doesnt give them the excuse to be ignorant

"all play and no brain makes jack a dully boy" or so they say

I doubt so.Most of them just play some crap online games,rather than some quality games like WC or SC.

Thats how they get so ignorant.

Too much grinding is bad for you,kids.

Haha...this is what i think about dota..first i hate the game...then i try to play because nobody play cs already in 2005 i think....when u know how to use certain hero what item to buy...u start like the game...then u kill enemy hero..ppl say u pro..then u go crazy with dota..after tat u spend every money u got to go cc to play..then when u see thread like this u will say....'u only say that because u never try or u dunno how to play'

different people different opinion if u dont like dont play...dont say it suck...if the game suck ppl will not play..almost all cc i go ppl play dota..and yet the game always update with latest map and stuff

DotA doesn't sucks just your opinion..

Melee games not many people playing why?

1: already have many similiar games (eg : starcraft , red alert)

2: warcraft III already kinda old..

3: warcraft III kinda mafan coz nid 'FAST' so sometime new people wan fast till click wrong so du lan then quit playing liao!

Im not DotA fan, but im really enjoy playing W3 rather than DotA (i already play DotA, not my type of game).
Its a good thing people still playing W3.
And yes, DotA is s*ck.

i play both dota and normal ladder games (melee).

warcraft cant be compared to redalert + starcraft simply because the other two games dont require the management of resources to play well. with starcraft and redalert, u just simply mass units. the greater the number wins.

with warcraft, having a larger army will make u harvest less gold and lumber. which means its a disadvantage (economy-wise) while an advantage (battle-wise).

so warcraft makes u think and plan when would be a proper time to go to a higher upkeep (bigger army).


and for your 3rd point, what do u mean fast?

clicking fast and clicking wrong is two very different things.


does talking fast mean u will talk wrongly?

or does talking wrongly mean u are talking fast?




please la dude. think before u speak...

dont embarass yourself.

Yeah?


I play both wc3 and sc, i think managing resource in wc3 is easier. Its the micro part thats hard.
With 5 peon for gold and 7 for wood, even blind ppl can see and manage that.

Can i quote the 2nd and 3rd line for my siggy?

herm micro? i thought starcraft was harder. haha but i duno how 2 play starcraft at all.

i think i meant to imply economy ler.

i think to be good at either starcraft + warcraft, your micro must be decently good.

the rest comes down to a slight bit of luck and proper timing + positioning in battle.

right?


siggy? haha will u put my name too?

the producer of dota really geng ..

For my opinion is..
Dota = Move speed fast, your hero will die in 1-2sec.
Wc3 = Move slow, your hero can run here run there around 10sec then maybe die.

Dota = Simple control a hero with fully tactic.
Wc3 = Difficult control a lot army with fully tactic.

Dota = You can combine a lot stuff to make ur hero strong. Goblin Technic also can combine Divine Rapier to become crazy hero.
WC3 = You only can buy a few stuff, cannot combine.

Dota = A lot player know Dota then they only know Wc3
Wc3 = A few player know it but no try to play, coz it need build a lot building, army then you can win.

Dota = Player like to hear "Holly shit ! ! ! God Like"
Wc3 = Apa pun tak ada.

Dota = A lot verson, hero to choose.
Wc3 = few verson, even got new verson also nothing to add. a few hero can use only.

My opinion only la har... maybe got a lot.. dunno how to say.

wow seems to be another of those dota fanboys

anyway just to clarify a few things -

wc3 can be fast or slow, just like dota can be either fast or slow depends on the players.
wc3 game can take 5mins to finish or even 1 - 2 hrs. dota also simliar right?

u say in dota a hero will die in 1-2 sec.
can tell me how a centaur with 5k life will die in 1-2 secs please?


to be truly good at any game be it dota / cod4 / cs / crysis / halflife / quake or blablabla....
u need to play well and have good tactics. right?
dota only seems easier coz its one hero and not a whole army.
but to be truly good at dota (maybe competition level) u still need good technique and tactics ler.


true u can combine alot of the stuff but the gameplay is different mar.
dota fights with heroes while wc3 fights with the army. dun forget that.
and your silly statment about techie with rapier, u think he can fight a sniper with rapier?
pls make sense...


i think u only speak for yourself and all the small kids out there. how old are u again?
warcraft has been around for 10 years i believe. do correct me if i'm wrong.

wc3 can be won with just a hero, or just a tower, or no hero and just units. its flexible.
can u win dota without your hero?


well true. depends what do u wanna hear lor.
did u know that dota stole all those lines from counterstrike?
are u gonna start playing cs now so that u can hear all those stuff?


okay dota has alot of versions. but do u actually play all the older versions?
the newer versions is to balance out the heroes, items and the gameplay right?
i highly doubt that u go back to play version 5 or version 4 of dota. do u?
if u actually do, i stand corrected

and wc3 there are many versions. as all games, there are many fixes to be done to ensure that it is fair and playable.
there are neutral hero taverns that u can choose your hero from.
so u actually have your four own race heroes plus alot of other neutral heroes that anyone can pick from.
this means u can actually have the same heroes as your opponents.
can u have that in dota? in competetive levels?

and btw, blizzard just recently they released a patch for ver1.22.
did u know?


yes i know its your opinion.
but please please think before u state your opinions in public.
do some research or just ask around.
dun simply state things without having any prior knowledge about it.

it sometimes makes u look stupid.


that being said, i do stand corrected.
pls do correct me if i am wrong
no hard feelings yeah

I say "move speed" dude, I like move fast. But not game period speed. Coz only u control 1 hero. You can move very fast, get power tread, get boot of travel, get haste or etc etc. No need wait army.
And CW with 5K hp you also can kill it if u gangbang him.



I say "control a hero" with "control a lot army" please..
And pls dun tell me about cs,cod4,crysis or etc etc..
Here is Dota & Wc3 only..



I say~ "combine a lot stuff" in dota, you can buy a shoes + glove = power tread.
In Wc3 shoes = shoes, no more can improve..
And if the techie fight with a sniper with only a simple shoes, glove and a few potion... You say can win or not ?
I just wanna say the combine item feel, hero with edge weapon feel.
And you also say "the gameplay is different mar"... now i tell you the different feel between both of them la~




I not sure it how many year already.. but u also say la..
Wc3 already 10 year, but a lot people, uncle, kidz dunno the game. Even know also dun want to play it.
After Dota, a lot people, uncle, kidz and dude know and try to click the "Wc3 exe" If you say play Wc3, they will think about DOTA but not strategy Wc3 Game. U get what i mean ? U get how they know the Wc3 ?



CS again... i say la.
HERE IS DOTA & Wc3.. Go out race real car more can hear voice then CS.



Then u will play back your old ver v1.01 or etc etc old version Wc3?
How long already Wc3 no released new hero? Then Dota in 1 year period got add how many hero, new weapon.. I think u more pro on this.. rite ?



Please read and know the meaning first before correct other ppl.. You make me feel you only know the surface, dunno the significance..
This is difference's gameplay, that WHY a lot ppl chose DOTA.

This post has been edited by LeVis_Jeans: Jul 5 2008, 06:12 PM

Dotards will always be Dotards.

i play dota and got bored of it. and some jack ass still tells me that Dota came first before warcraft.. omfg and some even ask me what the difference btw warcraft and dota. die lo.

now my friend is already 30 yrs old and still living on parents money everyday main CC dota dota dota.

Your friend isn't wrong at all... DOTA already exists during starcraft era that was before warcraft was released...they just used another name (not DOTA).

Actually...u r the dumbass...

That jackass is right....Warcraft came b4 DotA...no Warcraft....no DotA

U are right

DotA" redirects here. For the Basshunter song, see Vi sitter i Ventrilo och spelar DotA.
Defense of the Ancients (often referred to as DotA) is a custom scenario for Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne, based on the "Aeon of Strife" map for StarCraft. The objective of the scenario is to destroy the opponents' "Ancient", a heavily guarded structure in each corner of the map. Players use powerful units known as heroes, and are assisted by allied heroes and AI-controlled fighters called "creeps". As in role-playing games, players level up their hero and use gold to buy


source : DOTA

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Jul 14 2017, 06:04 PM

Wanna ask why Melee is so similar to DOTA?

The heroes, buildings, sound and music are so similar....so who copied who?

From Warcraft 3.

And for one of the "heroes" like the Butcher, its sound taken from Diablo, another Blizzard's masterpiece.

This post has been edited by Fatimus: Jul 17 2008, 09:43 PM

So butcher is from Diablo... and venomancer is from starcraft, right?

yup.

And in starcraft it's called Hydralisk. Unlike Hydralisk, I won't say the Butcher is straight from Diablo, the sentence "hmm....fresh meat" does.

This post has been edited by Fatimus: Jul 17 2008, 10:25 PM

I still play WC3 standard game. Anyone want to play with me online ?

Hahahah...i dota less now. Concentrate on playing base with friends. Much more fun

I dont mind play dota. I dont mind seeing others enjoy play dota either.
But what i see among my friends that is dotards, they buy original warcraft 3 battlechest just to play Dota (that is free download).
And worst, they think they play Warcraft 3.
I ask them "So how do you like the characters in Warcarft 3?" And they say "I like Lina Inverse etc"
Bless they soul

OMG butcher is the abomination from the undear slaughterhouse la.
before dota is warcraft 3.

and before Dota was 3 corridoors.

Dota was just a custom map made my Eul in 2003 which sucked big time. Pugna at that time is super strong. 1 mana cast raise dead. and when the skeleton dies the corpse still can raie 3 more skeleton

then guinsoo took over and created the V5 of dota.

and now icefrog take over for v6

Blizzard saw that Dota community is growing among the warcraft franchise thats why they are giving it acknowledgement.

anyways in the world Dota tournaments only give a maximum payout of 50k usd.

the true money is in warcraft 3 or the frozen throne melee match where our good malaysian team dont even place top 20 and first prize was like 300k usd.

Guinsoo is the one who brought it to fame. IceFrog is the one who made the most additions.

Anyway, there wasn't a map in Battlenet which dominated the game lists before DotA, anyway. the mauls, Footman Wars and Tides of Blood managed quite well before, though.

Just some correction it's from Unreal Tournament.

No, those sounds are from CS....

I play both CS and DotA...

u mean teh ingame announce " First blood , mega kill , ultra kill , etc " ? or something else? I play both and never notice that in CS before am I missing something. Unless the CS server is modded such as http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zvz5d9ZAxzs then is true.

UT 3 ( release 2007 ) <-- new slang
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPPtRmJs9hs&feature=related

UT GOTY ( release 1999 , CS released at 1999 as a mod for HL) < -- Original slang
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3oa5HDMDio&feature=related

This post has been edited by Sewerspeakers: Oct 17 2008, 09:44 AM

err...i played diablo b4..yes,the butcher is like wht u said, it is the abomination from the undear slaughterhouse
but the line.."ahh....fresh meat" is actually took from DIABLO 1....
Even now i still remember the sound of the butcher form diablo 1...[i played it when i was 9yrs old]

Yeah , it was released on 1997 , that time i was in standard 4 . Still a kid lol and freaked out that time.
look here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdyahwjLAao

This post has been edited by Sewerspeakers: Oct 17 2008, 10:12 AM

i jz started dota for a month, and im enjoying, get a life man instead of complaining here and there

i guess is not onli in malaysia.....the trend is worldwide.....

lol on this idiot, spokeperson for all the Dotards.

This post has been edited by yehlai: Oct 17 2008, 04:45 PM

Agreed , there are always people who can't even differentiate between warcraft and the most overplayed warcraft 3 custom mod of all time...

so true . Until i feel lazy to argue coz i dun wan to waste my time ....

dota is the expansion after Frozen Throne,...DUH , u guys are noobs

two words
DEAD SPACE OWNS all game

see who's talking. U maybe pro in game but in getting facts zzzzzzz.......bah lazy to argue. To make it simple, find us proof about that. Solid.

This post has been edited by Sewerspeakers: Oct 17 2008, 10:44 PM

lol...mindcry should be happy in this thread...becoz he will get many friend here...lol...

It's not an expansion. DotA's just a custom map in WC3. You're the noob.

Noob will always be a noob. Since the custom map is so popular, nobody bother doing some background research kah?

Dota For Life!!!

Dota is the expansion of Counter Strike ~