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Jordy
post Jun 6 2008, 07:02 PM

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QUOTE(kinwawa @ Jun 6 2008, 09:10 AM)
shd b those holding tenaga previously during their drop...now laughing all the way to their bank! hehehehe
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I bought at RM10 since last year, and held until now. Finally I have decided to dispose off at RM9.
If I am not mistaken, Monday is payday, so I am worried of further profit taking.
At times like this, better get off the boat before anything worse comes. I am ready to invest the proceeds into high yield counters.

QUOTE(zirconxi @ Jun 6 2008, 10:36 AM)
In the Star Biz today, TNB CEO say tariff increase would have neutral impact to its cash position. So tenaga is not making more money from this tariff increase. I think the share wouldn't jump further already. Or will it??
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The tariff hike is only 18% and 26%, whereas the cost of gas for TNB has risen almost 100% in a year.
The tariff hike is still not enough to cover for TNB's losses I am afraid. They will still have to absorb a huge portion of the total cost, which will lead to a much lower earnings for FY2008, but should recover a little FY2009.
So until then, I think I would place my money into high yield counters to shield off any possible sell downs on TENAGA again.
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post Jun 26 2008, 11:21 PM

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I am expecting to see some selldown in the market tomorrow smile.gif
I think it is time for me to pick up a bit tomorrow.
What would be your strategy? To buy tomorrow or wait to buy on Monday? I think there should be another minor drop on Monday.
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post Jun 27 2008, 08:01 AM

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QUOTE(dreams_achiever @ Jun 27 2008, 06:55 AM)
Your prediction fulfilled!
DJIA slumped 358.41 to 11453.42. The lowest since Sept 2006.
Time to stay sideline first. All long term MA line has been broken. Still plenty to drop.  ohmy.gif
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QUOTE(skiddtrader @ Jun 27 2008, 07:05 AM)
It's been a while since DJIA drop so nicely. While KLCI has more or less sort of de-coupled from the effects due to our own political issues, it sure will be hard not to follow the crowd on this one.
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Been waiting for such a drop for months tongue.gif
Today I will fire some bullets to get into some attractive prices. Hehe.
God, I hope Monday it goes down some more for me to pick more up.
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post Jun 27 2008, 09:19 AM

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Damn my counters aren't moving sad.gif
Come on, drop drop drop.....
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post Jun 27 2008, 09:39 AM

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Under Bursa's website, you can check under Share Buybacks to see all the companies which have bought back shares for the day.
I don't know though how we can see which company gives back their shares to shareholders except for the annual report.
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post Jun 27 2008, 10:20 AM

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Ah hah, 2 of my counters are dropping I see thumbup.gif
Looks like good news now.
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post Jun 27 2008, 10:53 AM

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Window dressing is when funds push up the prices of counters to buff up their earnings. Happens mostly at the end of financial year.
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post Jun 27 2008, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(zirconxi @ Jun 27 2008, 10:58 AM)
everything is red this morning.... Will it turn around this afternoon??
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Why look for a turnaround in the market at such times? wink.gif
Even if market turns around now, you might not see profit in your counter.
It is something like "can see but no touch" tongue.gif
I would prefer market to go down down and down until i have settled my buying, then wait until my investment is realised.
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post Jun 27 2008, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(Neo18 @ Jun 27 2008, 12:13 PM)
bought TANJONG @ RM14
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May I know what is the significance of TANJONG?
Interested to see some opinion smile.gif
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post Jun 27 2008, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(Neo18 @ Jun 27 2008, 12:29 PM)
TANJONG
Unwarranted valuation; BUY. We see its current weakness in share price, amid the recent political “noise” and unclear windfall tax on IPPs, deems to be unwarranted. It trades at undemanding 8.8x CY09 PER, thus we believe the selling is overdone. We maintain our BUY rating on Tanjong at price target of RM22.60/RNAV share.
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Well, what about its earnings prospect? What about its growth plans?
The analysis is based on 12 months view, but what about 60 months target, or even 120 months targets?
That is the problem with following "expert" opinions, as you do not really get to understand the business you invests in.
I am not saying their opinions are not better than mine, but I still feel those "analysts" are more or less biased.
Haha, I know I am being sarcastic here tongue.gif But it all boils down to their long term prospects.

QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ Jun 27 2008, 12:52 PM)
There's no way market will continue to keep diving without technically correcting itself. And finding the bottom is key especially in this bear market situation.

Even if you do pick up blue chip shares for a good price, you won't see a big, and fast return in a bear market.
And yes Zirconci, market will go back up but will close red.
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Technical corrections are short term.
I agree though that there might not be a big and fast return in such situation.
So, more of a reason for us to have a long term view.

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post Jun 27 2008, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(zirconxi @ Jun 27 2008, 02:08 PM)
how long is long? 1 year, 2 years, 3 years... 10 years...
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Different people have different perceptions on "long term".
For me, anything 10 years and beyond is considered long term.
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post Jun 27 2008, 09:57 PM

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I don't understand why everyone keep thinking and saying "High oil, high oil, jump ship, doomsday, armageddon or whatever that is negative"? Don't you realise that everyday everybody is repeating the same old stuff? tongue.gif
Sorry for being rude, but is there anyone at all that sees all these things as POSITIVE? Share your views please smile.gif

P.S. I am not telling off those that are negative ones, but I thought this could be used as an ATTENTION line tongue.gif Sorry if you feel offended by my statement.
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post Jun 28 2008, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Jun 28 2008, 07:47 PM)
Jordy,

I am WAITING for people to panic and start selling PBBank.  I am WAITING for a megasale on PBBank.  I am keeping 2 to  5 years worth of emergency fund preparing for the recession to last quite a long time.

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Well, yeah I did discuss with you too on that. The previous drop on PBBANK was just a "shave" off my target price to get in wink.gif
Oh well, guess there is still quite a long way to go at the current price smile.gif

QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jun 28 2008, 09:56 PM)
i remembered you say that there are only about 3 counters which worth looking at in KLSE.

i guess one of them must be PBBANK. smile.gif

i am having the same aim as you do.
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If I remember correctly, he did point out a few of PBBANK's strengths in your PBBANK thread tongue.gif
So, if you look back at the whole thread, you will find why PBBANK was one of the "5 counters" smile.gif
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post Jun 30 2008, 11:06 PM

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I really feel like being in a movie shooting wink.gif Adam, thank you for entertaining us tongue.gif I am ready for this "fall". Down with DJ and KLCI!!
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Well, his statement means it's a time to accumulate yet again smile.gif

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