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post Jun 12 2008, 09:42 AM

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oh.. find out liao.. 4715 is resorts.. haha..
yaya.. still holding..
nvm... even the price drop so much.. but de financial act doesnt have any prob....
looking for a gd price to buy act...
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post Jun 12 2008, 10:56 PM

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wat good news to drive US market to rise?
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post Jun 14 2008, 10:33 PM

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科恩馬納入富時大馬30指數

2008-06-14 14:25

(吉隆坡)富時大馬指數諮詢委員會宣佈,科恩馬集團(KNM,7164;主板工業產品組)被納入富時大馬30指數成份股,取代金務大(GAMUDA,5398;主板建築組)的位置,變動將於2008年6月23日正式生效。

OMG... another round of Gamuda sell down on monday....stay tune~
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post Jun 16 2008, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jun 16 2008, 11:26 AM)
MAYBULK dropped 10 cents today, 3.66 now
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maybulk financial good? hmm.gif
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post Jun 18 2008, 12:02 AM

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ops... juz aware that maybulk alr 3.70...
pana.. u jump in alr?
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post Jun 20 2008, 03:59 PM

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gamuda 2.15 lo...much lower than its 3.00 NTA....
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post Jun 20 2008, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(sharesa @ Jun 20 2008, 04:01 PM)
I remembered you had Gamuda, have you sold it off?
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wah! ur memory so good rclxms.gif
havnt sell.... trap at ~3.00..haha biggrin.gif laugh.gif icon_question.gif doh.gif cry.gif
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post Jun 20 2008, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(sharesa @ Jun 20 2008, 04:25 PM)
Kesian.... sweat.gif I remembered because you were the only brave one to challenge it that time
Me oso stuck with Resorts dragging down my portfolio. doh.gif
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haha...today queue at 2.10..but cant get.. next week ba~
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post Jun 20 2008, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(kinwawa @ Jun 20 2008, 05:05 PM)
aiyah...almost got Maybulk@5.4..... kedekut again.....nvm la....if it's urs...it's urs. ...hehehee
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5.4?? shocking.gif typo is it?
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post Jun 21 2008, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jun 21 2008, 09:48 AM)
How about 2.50?  brows.gif

Analysts are quick to change their tone one, otherwise will get fired. Haha, just joking, no offence.

TP doesn't mean anything actually, it is the company fundamental aka profit that matter the most. Since I familiar with stock market, I don't bother how analysts said about TP this, TP that. What I concentrate is the company able to generate profit for me, that's all and simple. Just my preference, not necessary correct.

I had stated Resorts is not cheap at 3.50 level even based on PER alone. I don't know how they value it at 5.50 as it would imply 20x + PE which historically proven PER more than 20x is not sustainable unless profit level catch up quickly.

Having said that, it might be oppportunity in near term as market is entering bearish state, so market might overshoot on downside as well. Remember the half tank theory?
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then u got buy kah? tongue.gif
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post Jun 22 2008, 12:45 AM

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anyone trade emini S&P 500?

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post Jun 22 2008, 01:22 AM

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QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ Jun 22 2008, 12:57 AM)
Futures?  brows.gif
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yupe... im bored with klse...bored with long term INVESTMENT....bored with a market which only can make money on uptrend...

u have exp in emini trading?

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post Jun 22 2008, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ Jun 22 2008, 01:25 AM)
I trade FOREX and FKLI and equities in the US. Before you jump in to emini S&P500, you should try our futures (FKLI) first. The range is between 10-20 points normally, so swing trading is possible. But 1 point in Emini is 1 usd. So might be safer.
Which account do you have for emini S&P500?
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1 point in emini S&P500 is usd50 right? 1 point CFD S&P500 onli is usd1 rite..
not yet got account.. but thinking to open TradeStation...
i do some googling online... there's so many courses about earn 1 point a day in eminis to earn u a living...
frankly say, tats why attract me...
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post Jun 27 2008, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jun 27 2008, 10:08 PM)
Futures on paper looks easy, but when you start you own trade, then it might not as easy as one taught, involves some strategy, discipline issue. You need some discipline to cut loss sometimes, otherwise bring you to Holland, also don't know yet. laugh.gif

On paper looks easy 1 point = Rm50. Commission charge Rm25 per transaction, so Rm50 aka 1 point already breakeven. The hardest although look simple is which way do you trade? Just like FKLI now is 1172 for July, buy or sell? Current KLCI is 1190. This whether buy or sell is the hardest decision to make compared to buying stock. 

I feel comfortable to trade stock whenever time, but for futures I won't simply move in without any clear indication or direction. I always will monitor 30 stocks across the heavyweight KLCI component stocks (I set one favourite page pruposely for 30 major stocks in order to trade FKLI one), how those stocks move and trade accordingly which eventually affect the KLCI movement.
But sometimes, FKLI reluctantly to move according to the cash market (KLCI), by no mean KLCI up 5 points, FKLI must also up, it depends on the premium/discount of FKLI compared to cash market, and also market near future outlook. Just like recent bearish mood, FKLI tends to trade at least 10 points and above discount.

Although commission looks minimal compared to normal stock, it is not the covering the commission issue, but catch the right direction of market move at short period of time, which is very hard to do sometimes, although it is 50:50 like bet big or small only.  tongue.gif biggrin.gif

Out of my trade previously 70% is on short side.

Just some of my experience.
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another option.. eminis brows.gif brows.gif
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post Jun 28 2008, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ Jun 27 2008, 11:46 PM)
E-minis are great, if you want to have small leverage and smaller risk.

Try calling Philips Futures in Singapore, these guys have good trading platform.
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u trade eminis? any experience to share?
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post Jun 29 2008, 08:23 PM

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QUOTE(Kinitos @ Jun 29 2008, 04:14 PM)
"Never fall in love with a stock, because it will never love you back."

Any comments?
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true lo cool2.gif
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post Jun 30 2008, 11:05 PM

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a lot of counters have reached their 2-3 yrs low now...
anyone take any action?
or wait after 9/16 first....
few months back.. i can never imagine resort can reach <2.60... it simply sounds crazy to me...
but it happens now...

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