This story was manipulated as if i'm in the wrong.By the way i'm the Marcus that you all mentioned.I suggest you all (MATTHEW) must listen to both side story before determine who is right or wrong. This bloody b**** name sue ann which is my ex fren and also not my wife's best fren to be precise had actually propose to me about getting a westie. So i as her fren i help her to scout around and i found my uncle is selling it. But then he's only selling it with a condition where i must buy all 3. I don't even have a clear pic about the breed and i'm not interested in westie at that time but i take up this breed because of sue ann wants it so i join venture.I got the 3 for 5.5k and she took 1 female and i took a pair. I sold the female to her for 2.5k and i admit that i've made about 500 out of her. But do you all ever think of me? Because of her wanting the dog i have to purchase all 3 and i've told her about the price and she agreed ( i never take a gun and force her to buy ).So female carries a better value compare to male and if u break even her female worth about 2k.I refer to my uncle pertaining this issue and he said what i've done is not wrong. More on i was mad at her because she spread false news to others saying i'm the one who wants the dog 1st and she's innocent. Forever she's like that, always put the blame on people, never think of people, never a time think rasionally and that's why nobody likes her and she doesn't know it till today. She only know how to complain about her fren's and family but does she ever think of herself having a very very big attitude problem? Recently i even heard of a pet shop lady told me that she asked her to stop taking puppy from me due to some reason. I think this is absolutely ridiculous because it doesn't concern her at all.This issue is up to you all to judge..... The thing is i've forgive and forget about the past but i feel Sue Ann... you owe me an apology and you should start changing your attitude otherwise forever you'll be miserable with no frens and every1 is avoiding from you and i strongly believe you can feel that too(Thanks in advance-----> Matthew,for telling her about this later,i know u will ) . Don't ever judge the book by it's cover cause you may find that the content are the opposite. Bye...wait .... For your info.. i never reveal to her where my uncle stay because my uncle also worried after she keep on bugging him ... as you know la you very fan.....

What u say is correct.....what goes around comes around......that's y she lost her westie at the end

BTW,seow, i like ur westie and ur westie rocks

This post has been edited by marcuslim: Sep 21 2008, 09:18 PM

I'm glad that you think rationally but can you understand what i've posted? I don't think you understand,please,please read what i've posted. OK i'll answer..

1.when you stand on my side as a businessman, will you bring the customer to your sources of getting the goods? NO..... if you do so every1 who runs a business or relevant collapse and more on i know sue ann very well i don't 1 to cause any trouble between me and my uncle's relationship knowing that she good in giving trouble to ppl.

2.i bought 3 of them because i was not given a choice and that is the condition.(you can ask mr.chan if you 1 to). I willing to take up because i like to try out new things or i can even say that i dare to invest in something that i'm not familiar with and that doesn't concern you at all in 1st place.

3.i have never say that i was force to buy the 2 is just that she make the 1st move in geting the dog and then push the blame to me as if i'm forcing her to purchase the dog.If you're me it's a definite you'll get mad too.Am i right?

4.First i've already mention to her it is debarked and it's a breeding stock and she knew about that. She bought the dog is for breeding purposes because she was convinced with what she saw and she's accountant ( very calculative ), she can see the profit earning is very high but never knew that it is not as easy as she think.You (MATTHEW) might listen different stories from her because she is a story maker and watever she does is just to make her look innocent and not guilty.Don't be fooled by her cause if not for breeding purposes she would bought a puppy.I have never push a unwanted westie for her as i've shown her mine and given her a choice whether to change or not.

5.I have certainly not giving her an unhealthy westie and even if the westie have problem did you ever find out that is after how long she bought the dog? You should know if a dog doesn't given a good care and treat will the dog be healthy? Do the owner or seller should be responsible? and if immediate the moment that she receive the dog shows syptoms, Y don't she complain or reject? that means problem occured after sometime.And you say that the dog debarked is wrong? did you know that even the dog is debarked she still feel that it's noisy and bash the dog up just to make it quiet in front on me .Do you think that this owner is responsible enough?even if you do that will you admit? as i know nobody admit when they're wrong.

6. You said that using dogs to make $ is not ethical at all and all of the breeder is unethical of doing so.So that means you get your 3 westie for free? Absolutely NO. And if this action is unethical where do you and every1 get puppy?And in this world nothing comes free.(if got please inform me)So if you bought your westie from a breeder which where you mention they are unethical(why would a breeder breed dog?) that means you are a person with no BRAINS at all because you don't even know how to differentiate wat is right wat is wrong and do you think that you are rasional type of person or should i listen to your advise?

YOU ABSOLUTELY GOT NO SENSE OF HUMOUR AND I FOUND THAT WHEN YOU DEBATE YOU OPEN UP YOUR GATES WIDELY FOR YOUR OPPONENT TO CONQUER............

I don't mean to be rude but if you listen to one side story and you start posting up and found that later you're wrong , YOU ARE REALLY WRONG and for that now i think you should owe me an apology.

Well,yet you still don't understand.I guess i don't need 2 say much or explain much more cause say and say also u don't understand at all.Anyway,over is over,what has done we can't change it.

1.Breeding is a part of a business/income for a breeder.I know some did it for passion but how many of them are like that,then for what they breed dog?without breeding as a business,i guess there will no factory that produce food for ur pets,there will no job opportunities and u won't get ur westie.As u've mentioned earlier that i bought the mother from ur family friend,rite?Why didn't he( wealthy man & YOUR FAMILY FRIEND) gave u a free westie( i know u bought 1 from him) as u say u're taking a family's viewpoint and u as a FAMILY FRIEND?

2. I would like to repeat again n again,ok SHE WANTS A WESTIE AT 1ST And i haven't sell of the male until the day she said that she doesn't 1 to breed the dog because she doesn'y 1 the dog to suffer and i refunded her the stud service $ and after that only i sell off my male and i think that's fair enough and i really hope that u get the correct info before putting the blame on people.

3.You say i don't know where to push the most unwanted dog,how sure u are that was the unwanted dog? and i keep the 2 better puppies?HELLO.............PLEASE READ WHAT I WRITE .......

4.My uncle sold me 3 dogs,all adult ok,not puppies(that u mentioned) and all of them( THREE) were debarked & breeding purpose,ooh u say she took the most unwanted dog - gold & debarked. ( For ur info,my female westie had skin prob,ok ?so how? go back n complain to my uncle?) so,u think which is the most unwanted dog?why i have 2 puppies? years back,i bathe them and they mated accidently without i knowing,then only my female gave birth to 2 puppies.

5.i didn't make a business proposition to her,she's the one who propose it 1st.As what i've said nobody likes to admit when they're in the wrong but else every1 wants credit and to sell or not it's up to me as we don't have any agreement.before we start,we already argue,how 2 continue a business if like that?AND do you think breeding is easy?

LASTLY I THINK YOU ARE NOT IN THE POSITION TO LECTURE ME INSTEAD OF THAT I THINK THE OWNER OF THE DOG SHOULD CONFRONT.

Whatever people wants to say,we can't shut their mouth, as u know ..humans are like that.... when a person does a good deeds,nobody knows,but when a person does a mistake,the whole world start talking.In this world nothing is right or wrong, if you think that is right then is right if not then the right also won't be right....Am i right? If you think that i'm wrong....watever i say won't be right cause u believe that is wrong then that is WRONG.As i know where i stand,that's enough.CLOSED.

I can't stop laughing when i see this,indeed a very funny joke.Dear Matthew,if you are a girl,i maybe stalk you Do you think i am so free to stalk you?Please say something that you are sure about it but not by what you see/heard.Guess this is not the 1st time FYI,I didn't went around and told people that your westies are from ME,I really can't stop laughing looking at how childish are some people....

Yes,i saw your dog in a pet shop,i just say to " Oh,westie..I guess i know whose westie is that"Matthew rite?" how many people will have westie in klg? n i sold a few westies before so roughly i know whose dog but I never ever say that i sold the westie to U,Do you have any hearing prob?Ever play the passing message game?One message transfered to another person n so on,in the end will it be the same? BTW i know which 1 you bought as i'M NOT BLIND.As u say that the shop owner asked if u bought your westie from me ,he just asked rite n you claim that i'm tellling people that ur westies are from me......so what are you talking actually?and whatever u wan 2 say after this i don't bother,so u can say watever u like as u always do.

This post has been edited by marcuslim: Apr 23 2009, 03:33 PM