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benjac
post Oct 20 2008, 07:37 PM

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hi westie owners!

we (ben & jaclyn) will soon be a westie parent. our little boy is currently at 6 weeks old and is still with the breeder. after seeing the dam and sire, we totally recommend to any westie lover.

QUOTE(greenpeas @ Oct 19 2008, 07:40 PM)
this may be totally trivial but are there any good westie breeders in kl? and around how much will they cost me to get a pup?
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if you don't mind the travel up north to penang, you can check out irene's westies. we went to see her puppies last month and totally fell in love at first sight! we're just counting the days now to bring him home!! wub.gif

you can check out her website at http://www.freewebs.com/starhillkennel/westies.htm


do you guys do any furkids get together? we would love our little boy to socialize with other westies. who knows, they could be some long lost cousins tongue.gif

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post Oct 20 2008, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(Doraemon11 @ Oct 20 2008, 09:09 PM)
I used to checked out this site before, however their westie pup were all sold out..
How much u get ur 1 from them?? Let's share share
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yup we got the last pup from her. we drove all the way to penang after talking to her on the phone - being kiasu after we saw the photo of both dam and sire from her website.

the next batch of her puppies will be in jan, but by Ozzy and Jasmine. ours is by Ozzy and Christy - both australia import. their features is very good (small pointed ears, short muzzle, thick fur, very good temperament) not like the ones we saw in petshop in kl loh.

so for the quality, we paid more than what the petshop charges here. she made us promise not to tell, because different puppy is at different price. but it was RM3k++ whistling.gif
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post Oct 21 2008, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(Pennywise @ Oct 21 2008, 11:38 AM)
Oh you broke the promise... Irene Kang got join this forum wan lehhh... Hahaha...
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hehe where got break promise. also never tell the actual price. she should be very happy that we are promoting her westies icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(Doraemon11 @ Oct 21 2008, 12:18 AM)
Wah... do remember to post up ur pup photo here later wen u bring him back ok.. rclxms.gif
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here's the latest photo we received. we have no idea which one is our puppy since we got her last pup. so we don't get to choose. but anyhow, all her puppies are super adorable! wub.gif

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post Oct 21 2008, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(Pennywise @ Oct 21 2008, 01:43 PM)
Hahaha... Did she tell you how many months are these?
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these babies were born 09-09-08. they are at their 6 weeks now. how's your marquis doing?
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post Oct 21 2008, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(Pennywise @ Oct 21 2008, 02:37 PM)
He's doing great but yapping a lot for attention. When is she delivering the dogs to you or do you have to go up and pick it up?
How many are you buying? Male or female? What's the intended name for the new pup?
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wah wah wah! interrogation meh icon_question.gif

1) we are going to pick him up next sunday. delivery is not so personal mah, surely you don't ask to deliver your baby home when you can pick him up personally cool2.gif

2) buying ONE is enough to put a big hole in our bank account lo laugh.gif

3) it is a HE, and 4) his name is scubby - means "very happy" dog wink.gif


do you leave your 3 furkids home alone when you go for work? is that why marquis is yapping? we stay in a condo, so have to curi2 to have scubby. hopefully he will be a good boy. any tips for us? i saw your tricks of casper in youtube thumbup.gif i especially like the BANG BANG play dead rclxms.gif
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post Oct 22 2008, 08:57 AM

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QUOTE(Pennywise @ Oct 22 2008, 08:03 AM)
Not interrogation la, dont take it so personal - just asking. Valid questions ma, right? Ok, you are going all the way up to PG to pick him up... so committed.

Yea, I leave my dogs at home when I'm off to work.

I used to have Casper only and he lives alone at home. On Wed evening till Sunday morning, my grandma will move in to live with us. It's a weekly thing and at other times she will be at my aunts. So Casper is less lonely when grandma is home.

At the same time, I have a sister who is still schooling. She gets home after morning school to play with Casper. Soon, my sister got busy with her SPM, etc, when she didnt have that much time to be with Casper, he was lonely again.

That's where Moonie came into the picture. Good luck with Scubby, remember to post up photos of him soon ok?
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no worries. i was just joking about the interrogation part biggrin.gif

casper sounds lonely too. but as long as you walk him, he should be fine. now you have a big garden for all 3 of them to play, they should be happy dogs. but still need to go for walks! according to cesar millan, the dog whisperer.

so do you meet up with other westie owners? i read from petster magazine that NZX (nui ze xui) at ara damansara allows dogs in their commercial centre. have anyone ever organised a westie get together there before?
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post Oct 22 2008, 11:41 AM

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the first time i saw westie was at petsmore in jalan sultan. quite good quality also. it was 2 months old, don't remember if male or female. selling for about RM2500. that was back in august.

i think i also saw that same westie that pennywise saw at ikano. the following week we went back there, he was gone. selling RM2200+ i think.

do try the pet family petstore at taman megah. we saw a westie there, but not too good quality, selling at RM1800.

maybe you can try asking those petshops to reserve for you?

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post Oct 22 2008, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(Pennywise @ Oct 22 2008, 11:52 AM)
How come you didnt promote people to buy from Irene leh? Irene westies are superior ma, is it not? Hehehe... You shd help promote, then can earn some discount.
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well very true la. irene's westie is superior and comes with the price and DISTANCE tongue.gif

so if you don't mind the distance to get the perfect westie, i definitely recommend irene kang's westie. she told me her next batch would be due in jan 09. so people, start queuing! call her and book one today rclxms.gif
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post Oct 22 2008, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(Doraemon11 @ Oct 22 2008, 01:14 PM)
yalor if don't mind the distance.. penang wor

However from pic show.. i like christy more then jasmine.. tongue.gif
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just think of it as going to penang for holiday lo. and then go check her westies out. hit 2 birds with 1 stone mah wink.gif
we also not sure if will really buy her last puppy when we drove up last month. coz we won't get to choose. but after seeing both the parents, we really fell in love with their quality. really "almost" pure breed westie from scotland wub.gif

you have sharp eyes! christy is better looking than jasmine. her fur quality also better and so pretty. her ears are pinky clean and she is very patient with all the strangers that came see her puppies. i've never seen a dam that let strangers touch their babies thumbup.gif

if you can wait, you can call irene and make a booking for christy and ozzy's next litter la. the dog will follow you for 15 years and more, so it is very important that you have no regrets adopting it to your family icon_rolleyes.gif

it took us 2 months to find scubby happy.gif
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post Oct 22 2008, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(Pennywise @ Oct 22 2008, 01:27 PM)
Actually, it's not superior nor perfect.  hmm.gif Irene's westie has a nice build. I had wished to see her westie with the popular westie lion's cut but all I've seen so far is a bushy, messy forehead fur. I would have hope to see her comb / groom it in other ways. tongue.gif

Let me explain to you why it's not superior nor perfect (note this is just personal opinion). Ever noticed why some people say there's no nice Westie in Malaysia?  cry.gif

I said there is nice westies in accordance to local standards, but honestly, there really isnt any that's up to standards with those you see in Scotland. Take a good look at those photos posted by larryho when he travelled UK.

Our local westies are nice to look at but its often not comparable. Not to mention the grooming cut. I dont think Irene's westie is lion cut despite it being the most famous. Additionally, it's really hard to find someone who can do hand stripping on our westies locally. The best so far is Seapark Pet Supplies, SS2 as recommended by ihawk98.

However, I do admit and think she spend a lot of time maintaining her westie to be so white  icon_idea.gif  notworthy.gif - whether you can do the same or not is a different story, my friend. I know I couldnt!  cry.gif Hahaha!!

Westie is also determined by the size of the head and body structure. Not only must it be small but it has to be how to say... padat and fit. Unlike other dogs where you can tough their body and feel fats, westie body are usually very tight together like muscular even though they're only home pets.

Lastly, Einstein + Marilyn Monroe dont mean their kids turn out genius or hot. This depends a lot on you who will bring it up! Are you ready for this new challenge in your life? Hehe..
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i agree with you! i've yet to see really nice westies in kl that looks like the ones in photos. grooming it could also be an important factor, and also our weather is humid. anyone tried House of Groomers?


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post Oct 22 2008, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(Pennywise @ Oct 22 2008, 01:47 PM)
This is the saddest part of your story, you dont get to choose a puppy. For me, I feel this is the most important stage when choosing a pet. I believe others will tell you the same.

This is where you know that your RM3k+ and travelling is worth it because, you know you're getting the best. You know that whatever negative outcomes, it's your choice of selecting the puppy.

If you're already sure and made the decision, then ok la. Puppies have this way to approach ppl and win their hearts despite it being the first or last. But you should have opt for choices dude.

If I am not mistaken, Irene's westies are from Aust, not Scotland. I did speak to her and was told that it was her son who brought it back from Aust or something, am I correct?

From your post, looks like you're ready for a new adventure in your life! Congratz mate!
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feel like we're chatting live haha sweat.gif

yes lo, it is a downside that we won't get to choose. but i believe in fate, and it has brought us all the way to penang for him. even if you get to choose, how you know it is also the best leh? there will always be a WHAT IF argument. when you buy at the pet shop, there's only 1 to choose too mah. unless you get another breed tongue.gif

btw, this is jaclyn that does the replying. ben is the working husband and jac (me) will be the scubby nanny thumbup.gif
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post Oct 22 2008, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(Pennywise @ Oct 22 2008, 01:49 PM)
p/s: I'm a realistic person so my post may not be the best news to your ears but nevertheless, know that I do not mean any harm and just want to highlight to you some of the important points into this new world of commitment and responsibility.

If you're all ready and good to go, we hope to see some latest Scubby picture soon! I know it'll rock your world!


Added on October 22, 2008, 1:52 pm
Malaysia westies are different from those in Scotland. I really have no idea why but even larryho posted the same thing and is intending to buy back from Scotland. I am also tempted to get my best friend's bro to buy one but then, I think our climate plays a part as well and time, commitment, money... cannot tahan la. 3 is enough for me.

I've called them before and without the master groomer, I doubt I will ever send my dog there. So far, I'm still very satisfied with Seapark Pet Supplies. ihawk98 and myself go there and maybe 6 months from now you should too. Your puppy will be the main attraction during the festive season when friends come to visit. Not sure if you're chinese but since it's just a pup, your pup probably wont be needing grooming till past CNY 2009.
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owning a westie is a lot of responsibilities. researching on him already give me headache hehe. but for all things beautiful, comes price, time, commitment and huge responsibilities. we are aware, but until we really hands-on, we can only guess. wish us luck!

i do think our weather here will cause some difference from those overseas. their weather is very different. just like chinese look angmoh in overseas. oh yes, we are chinese wink.gif

a friend visited paris recently and took this photo for me. isn't he beautiful? can we achieve this look and fur quality here? [attachmentid=639051]


Added on October 22, 2008, 2:13 pm
QUOTE(Pennywise @ Oct 22 2008, 02:04 PM)
Ah... I see, nice to live-chat with Jac.

Anyway, I do not know much about dogs until 2 years back. I learnt the importance of being the first to choose. A litter of dogs delivered, each of them will be unique and have different temperament. If you feel this is fated to be your dog, quickly go pick him up this Sat and remember to post lots of picture lor, or else we might not be able to forgive you... Hahahahaha...

I am not really qualified to teach you how to know the dog is the best but this is like common practise even among breeders. Usually, people will go for the most naughty / active one. Not the most low confident / self overprotective one.

Just something to share if you dont already know:
For example, if I have a female westie and you have a male. We arrange for a stud service and the dam deliver say, 5 pups. The owner of the sire will get to choose first (which is the best la) one pup and leave the remaining with the dam who went through the delivery and this of course involves risk of dying, etc. This is why ppl always choose first.
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we also wish we can choose first. but we were the last buyer, so not much choice lo. either way, i hope scubby will be a good boy.
when he is old enough, we can have a small gathering and share notes smile.gif

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post Oct 22 2008, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(Pennywise @ Oct 22 2008, 02:51 PM)
Good example there. Malaysian chinese and american born chinese, looks different ma even though both are chinese.

I think you can achieve those white and long fur if you're hardworking with maintenance, combing, grooming, whitening, etc. For me, I'm a guy and I think westie should look cool (possible plain lazy excuse to maintain my dogs).

Here are the westies that I think is really outstanding.
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i also hope i can keep him white and healthy looking. the husband is very scared i turn our scubby into chubby westie haha.
don't use guy as an excuse la. just comb him every night and his fur will gleam. cheaper than curing their genetic skin problems wink.gif

not fair la if you compare malaysian westies with scottish westies. since scubby's parents are from aussie, and their weather is a bit bit similar (not too cold), maybe can achieve a good looking westie smile.gif

hmm we don't quite like the lion head cut. but the wearing skirt cut is nice thumbup.gif

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post Oct 22 2008, 03:30 PM

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which dog food brand do you feed your 3 westies? i did some research and looks like anything with meat meal is no good.

http://www.petsfortheenvironment.org/blog/...no_to_meat_meal
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post Oct 22 2008, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(Pennywise @ Oct 22 2008, 04:04 PM)
Meat meal is a generic term for by-products, which means the internal and unwanted parts of a meat. For example, you see chicken meal simply means this bag of kibbles is made of chicken by products (intestine, heart, liver, brains, etc).

You can trust brands like Evanger, Natural Balance, Acana, Eaglepack, etc on the market but based on experience, try to avoid high protein kibbles like Orijen and Innova Evo (40% protein) because:
1. Protein is heaty and can lead to skin problems
2. Too much protein means the liver / whatever organs that need to absorb protein will have to overwork
3. Indoor pets dont need high protein
4. Like how ppl who goes to gym take protein powder to gain muscles but side effect is more pimples, likewise, westies being sensitive skin will also have pimples and skin problems
5. Unburn protein turns into fats.
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irene is feeding her pups eukanuba. i remember one of your post, you recommended against it. what brand do you feed yours?
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post Oct 22 2008, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(Doraemon11 @ Oct 22 2008, 05:32 PM)
I totaly not agree u on tis lor  blush.gif  Not only westie lor... OWING A PET IS LOT OF RESPONSIBILITIES!!!!! laugh.gif
Whatever breed oso, since u wana have a dog/pet u must willing to committe lor..  biggrin.gif

Hey benjay, where u frm jor ja?? hmm.gif 

I just wonder y those westie lover or breeder not import westie from scotland and then breed here.. so m'sia oso got such quanlity lor...!

Hey sheryl.. u can up load pic meh??? I do many time stil failure wor..
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totally agree! owning any pet is a lot of responsibilities thumbup.gif i had a mini pinscher for 13yrs until she pass away 2006. it was like a relative died, which is quite true cry.gif

we're from kl. staying near setiawangsa. any other westie owner around this area?
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post Oct 22 2008, 06:23 PM

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QUOTE(Doraemon11 @ Oct 22 2008, 05:52 PM)
OOiiii  reli reli????? OMG OMG ohmy.gif  ohmy.gif

I'm stay at melati... near near near..!!!

I wana come visit ur new boy(westie) later.... can mou!??  tongue.gif
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can can! i also want scubby to have friends with other doggy thumbup.gif
how old is your westie? eh or were you looking for one?
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post Oct 22 2008, 07:24 PM

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QUOTE(Doraemon11 @ Oct 22 2008, 07:02 PM)
I personaly having a yorkie, c my avatar, she's 9 months old now..
Just get another female westie last week..named snowy, which keep at my bro sis house. She's 3months by now.
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what's your yorkie's name? zhai2 or lui2?
why don't you take both yorkie and snowy together and use as your avatar smile.gif
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post Oct 22 2008, 07:49 PM

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QUOTE(Pennywise @ Oct 22 2008, 05:02 PM)
Well, I am not against Eukanuba because Marquis is eating that now. Eukanuba is what the breeder feed it, so I continue to give it till maybe 4 - 6 months old before changing so that he's in a more stable, happy and accepting condition prior to the change.

What I am trying to say is: those brands you can get from convenience store (not pet store) is the general or generic brand of dog kibbles. For example, Alpo, Eukanuba and Pedigree.

I would prefer my furkids to eat something else since I can afford it. So, I go for Natural Balance or Evanger, my two favorite brands. Occassionally, I swap for Eaglepack, Acana or whatever I can find off the shelf of a pet store. I just try to avoid Eukanuba, Alpo and Pedigree.

Example: If you want to buy a pro mountain bike, would you buy one from Tesco or would you buy from a bicycle specialist shop? Mountain bike, RM200 also got, RM20,000 also got. Another brand I avoid is Science Plan - I just dont like it. Dont ask me why.

Here, read this: http://www.dogfoodanalysis.com/how-often-s...ange-foods.html and find the ratings of dogfood in this same website as well. Check out where Eukanuba, Alpo or Pedigree stands... I dont know but I think it's not some 4 star, 5 star or 6 star rated dog kibble.
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thanks for your advice! notworthy.gif


Added on October 22, 2008, 7:53 pm
QUOTE(Doraemon11 @ Oct 13 2008, 09:41 PM)
Soli ar.. i'm so excited now and playing her and my bebe keep barking at her make me pening  rclxub.gif
Oh ya oh ya..
I wana name her Snow...
I get her 1.8k wit cert and champ line...
sososo happy.. her parents attract me actually.. so small size..
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phew! sweat.gif finally found snowy!! rclxms.gif

how old is she?

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post Oct 23 2008, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(larryho @ Oct 23 2008, 12:40 PM)
Please update it over here yea if there is such event goin on in near future.


Added on October 23, 2008, 12:44 pmIt seems that more and more westies owners in here...really happy to know that.

Any westies owners living near ampang area or not, somewhere near zoo negara. Im staying near there actually so if free mayb v can meet up and have some chit-chat and socialize our westies as well.
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i'm staying at setiawangsa, 10min+ drive to zoo negara!
after my westie's 2nd vaccination next month, we would love to meet your westies rclxms.gif

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