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post Oct 1 2010, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(ryujimitsui @ Oct 1 2010, 08:40 PM)
thanks cris for your kind explanation.
i understand how the system works now.
i agree with you, we should make some view and consultation from someone like you before making any further steps.

another question cris, how they calculate the interest? its on daily right? can you show me some example about the calculation?

i noticed for each month my salary will be bank in by my company and of course i will draw the money out depend on my needs. so if they calculate those thing in daily basis, the balance of my salary will be calculated too as long as im not draw everything out.

how they calculate the interest cris?
let say 4% interest? does it mean 4% interest per month which  mean 4%x12 months per year?

hope you can explain a bit more detail regarding on this pakage.

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Post had been moved to Article 5. Understanding the terminology: "Daily Rest" & "Monthly Rest" - Implication on your interest cost



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post Oct 2 2010, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(home_save @ Oct 1 2010, 11:43 PM)
Dear Forumers,

If anyone of you read through your loan doc or letter of offer thoroughly, majority of our current conventional home loans are calculated on a daily rest basis while for couple years ago, home loans are mainly calculated on a monthly rest basis. The major differences between monthly rest and daily rest are as below:

MONTHLY REST BASIS

Interest of a loan for a particular month will be calculated based on the previous month’s outstanding balance (Outstanding balance will include both principal and accrued interest, if any).

Consider current BLR at 6.3%

ie. Loan Amount RM 500k at BLR -2.3% p.a. (effective interest rate will be 4%), tenure 30 yrs. Monthly installment is projected to be RM2,387.08, payable on 15th of each month.

1st Month(30days):

Outstanding balance: RM 500k
Interest Due: RM 500k X 4% X 1/12 = RM 1,666.67
Monthly principal repayment: RM 2,387.08 - RM 1,666.67 = RM 720.41
Outstanding balance of 2nd Month: RM 500k - RM 720.41 = RM 499,279.59

So, how about Daily Rest Basis?

DAILY REST BASIS
Interest of loan will be calculated based on the previous day's outstanding balance.

Using the same example:

1st Month(30days):

Outstanding balance: RM 500k
Daily interest charged until payment on 15th: RM500k X 4% X 15/365 Days = RM 821.92
Principal repayment on 15th: RM 2387.08 - RM 821.92 = RM 1565.16
Outstanding balance after 15th: RM 500k - RM 1565.16 = RM 498,434.83
Daily interest charged until end of 30th: RM 498,434.83 X 4% X 15/365 Days = RM 819.34

Thus, total interest incurred during 1st month = RM 1,641.26

Look at the interest incurred for both cases then you know what I want to point out.

The interest savings = 1666.67 - 1641.26 =25.41, it might looks insignificant in short run but make a huge difference for a tenure of 30 yrs as this amount will serve as additional principal repayment which further reduce the interest incurred in 2nd month and so on.

COMMENTS:

Basically, if a daily rest loan is utilized correctly, it should provide significant interest saving impact to your loan. The savings will be more obvious and more significant if you make a lot of prepayments other than your regular monthly installments, often attractive to those who have high cash flow and bunch of idle fund. The only problem with daily rest is when you default or miss any installment. The accrued interest will be calculated on a daily basis as well and you might end up paying more if you try to delay your payments.

For monthly rest, the advantage will be you do not have to worry about additional interest incurred (or no need to consider the interest savings impact) when you make an installment at a certain date, as long as you did not miss any of them.

Give a good rate if you think this calculation is good enough for your understanding smile.gif
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thanks chris.

i just checked with uob, if i take the flexi loan pakage. it will charge me RM10 per month. does all bank that offer flexi will issue some charges?

got any who provide that service FOC?

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post Oct 2 2010, 01:52 PM

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I believe all Flexi loan have charges. If you want the monthly charge, why not go for semi-flexi? Only have charges when you withdraw, but withdrawal will be a hassle cos semi-flexi doesn't come with a current account. Withdrawal need to be done at counter. smile.gif
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post Oct 2 2010, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(ryujimitsui @ Oct 2 2010, 01:36 PM)
thanks chris.

i just checked with uob, if i take the flexi loan pakage. it will charge me RM10 per month. does all bank that offer flexi will issue some charges?

got any who provide that service FOC?
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Dear Ryu,

Nothing will come for free. Monthly maintenance charge will be RM 10 and RM200 for initial setup charges, consistent among banks, however, SCB does promote with the waiver of initial setup charges now but SCB full flexi has a cap of prepayment.
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post Oct 2 2010, 05:17 PM

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just got talk to Bank Tiger

1-3yrs = 4.4%

there after BLR 2.2%.

i guess this is normal rate for Bank Tiger,

They also have package as below

Monthly and Serve Interest.

Serve Interest means the bank paid the developer depending on the % of the contruction completed. so at the mean time we only paid the interest untill the contruction is complete then we only pay in full, BUT we also can pay the full monthly payment.

Is this good? or there is any hidden thing they didn't mention.?
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post Oct 2 2010, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(stevensys @ Oct 2 2010, 05:17 PM)
just got talk to Bank Tiger

1-3yrs = 4.4%

there after BLR 2.2%.

i guess this is normal rate for Bank Tiger,

They also have package as below

Monthly and Serve Interest.

Serve Interest means the bank paid the developer depending on the % of the contruction completed. so at the mean time we only paid the interest untill the contruction is complete then we only pay in full, BUT we also can pay the full monthly payment.

Is this good? or there is any hidden thing they didn't mention.?
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What they're offering you is just what the rest of the banks are offering. For under construction purchase, you just need to serve interest. When its complete then only you serve the full installment. However, you can also choose to serve full installment during construction period. Its an plus option for the loan.
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post Oct 2 2010, 07:03 PM

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h*b* pays initial setup also ?
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post Oct 2 2010, 08:15 PM

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I do have cases that I had requested waiver on set up fee. It was waived. Not just the bank that you mentioned, another bank as well.

To my opinion, I guess its waive able base on loan size, customer profile and also during customer making comparison bank to bank.
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post Oct 2 2010, 09:46 PM

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HI,

Anyone knows what does OD facility means?
Is it every home loan (semi flexi) comes with OD facility?

why we need OD facility?
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post Oct 2 2010, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(childish_gal81 @ Oct 2 2010, 09:46 PM)
HI,

Anyone knows what does OD facility means?
Is it every home loan (semi flexi) comes with OD facility?

why we need OD facility?
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Childish,

OD means Overdraft. Is a whole different facility compared to Flexi loan. Its more like pledging your property for a loan. In this case, the loan is call OD line. For instant, if your property worth 500k, you can apply for an OD within 70% - 85% margin (each bank differ in margin policy). The line will be the limit that you could withdraw from your current account. The portion you withdraw will be charge accordingly. Interest will be much expensive compare to housing loan. When I was with the bank last time, I still remember it was about BLR-0%. Maintenance fee is applicable. Minimum payment will be 5% of outstanding. Tenure wise, couldn't remember. But the Overdraft line will be reduce by amortization. Its not so famous nowadays cause not much bank offering. During your mortgage application, you could request this facility as well. If your loan is 500k, you could request 400k mortgage + 100k OD. wink.gif


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post Oct 2 2010, 11:30 PM

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Oh thanks..

Why should we apply for OD? Is it like personal loan?
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post Oct 2 2010, 11:39 PM

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Childish,

This OD is for people who always needs money to roll on a short term basis. Perhaps business purpose or investment. Cos after you roll it for say few mths and you put it back then no interest will be charge. wink.gif
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post Oct 3 2010, 10:11 PM

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At Citibank, we offers:

- BLR - 2.1%~2.3% (BLR -2.1 from RM50k and higher loan onwards) smile.gif

- Margin of Finance - 80% - 89%( Depending on location)

- Tenure - up to 35 years

- Package - Conventional/ Full Flexi /Overdraft Refinancing

Citibank Full Flexi has no maintenance cost. Withdraw or Pay excess without notice and anytime you want

We emphasizes on building good customer relationship and providing great services

Just PM me for more information or if you are interested.

Thanks

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post Oct 4 2010, 01:47 AM

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Hi, i'm looking for house loan, puchased price = rm 685k, d/p=10 -15%, double storey terrace (completed)

Loan Requirement:
MOF = <90%
Loan Tenure = <40 years
no lock in (except re-financing)
MRTA/MLTA = Yes


Please PM me the offer. thanks
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post Oct 4 2010, 08:12 AM

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QUOTE(chong99 @ Oct 4 2010, 01:47 AM)
Hi, i'm looking for house loan, puchased price = rm 685k, d/p=10 -15%, double storey terrace (completed)

Loan Requirement:
MOF = <90%
Loan Tenure = <40 years
no lock in (except re-financing)
MRTA/MLTA = Yes
Please PM me the offer. thanks
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Your choice of no lock-in will be very tough. Not much banks are offering. Pls reply with property details to support valuation.
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post Oct 4 2010, 09:01 AM

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QUOTE(wilz @ Oct 4 2010, 08:12 AM)
Your choice of no lock-in will be very tough. Not much banks are offering. Pls reply with property details to support valuation.
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hi wilsz, already PM you the property detail.

Heard that nowadays some bank actually can offer no lock in (except financing) feature, can anyone here provide some info. thanks
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post Oct 4 2010, 09:21 AM

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Hmm..so far, I only know EON got such offer.
OCBC, HSBC, Maybank - lockin 3 years
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post Oct 4 2010, 09:31 AM

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Here are my Home Loan results ending month of September 2010.

1st Place (Tiger Bank)

Est Selling Price: 500K +/-
Financing: 90% of Est Selling Price + 5% = Legal Documentation, Formal Valuation Report & MRTA (if any) or 90:10
Valuation: Waived
Interest: BLR -2.3%
MRTA: Waived (covered by life insurance)
Tenure: 38 years.
Monthly instalment: RM 2K +/-
Lock in: 3 years or 3%
Turnaround time: from meeting the officer (submit doc) to actually signing to LO = 1 month or less (within Sep 2010).
Status: Letter of Offer signed in Sep 2010.

2nd Place (Ong Chin Bank Corp)

Est Selling Price: same
Financing 90:10 (same as above)
Valuation: slightly lower but a heck load of difference on downpayment.
Interest: BLR - 2.3% regardless with or without MRTA
Tenure: 25 years
Monthly Instalment: RM 2323
Lock in: 3 years ( ithink)
Turnaround time: on the phone only, never meet the officer. document sent online. Deadline to submit proposal about 2 weeks before end of September 2010 given to come out with LO. Successful. (super efficient officer)
Status: Rejected.

3rd Place (Pubic Bank)

A LOT of horse trading, typical <insert race >bank.
Est Selling Price: same
Financing: initially 85:15, than subsequently 90:10
Valuation: very low!
Interest: BLR-2.3% with MRTA
Tenure: 25 years
Monthly instalment: RM 26xx
Lock in: 3 years (i think)
Turnaround time: from meeting the officer (submit doc) to LO, about 2 weeks.
Status: Rejected.

*** Rejected or Failed due to other reasons ***

4th Place (Hong Kie Bank)

Est Selling Price: same
Financing: 90:10
Valuation: negligible
Interest: BLR-2.3% with/without MRTA
Monthly instalment: RM 27xx (more or less)
Lock in: 5 years (i think)
Tenure: 25 years
Turnaround time: from meeting the officer (submit doc) … Well she was nice and efficient but her bank just couldn’t offer the best deal.
Status: Rejected.

5th Place (United Orang Bank)

More or less same terms and conditions but failed on internal procedure stage. Needed Draft SPA (WTF?)

Deadline given to prepare LO, within 1 week before end of September 2010.

*** in other words too slow or no reply at all ***

No Place (Rahib Hali Baba), (Chakai Igrnorant Malaysia Bank), (I AM Bank), (Ho Leong & Eno Bank [failed merger]).

This post has been edited by aurora97: Oct 4 2010, 09:33 AM
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post Oct 4 2010, 09:37 AM

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Aurora97,

You're posting your experienced on mortgage application?
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QUOTE(wilz @ Oct 4 2010, 09:37 AM)
Aurora97,

You're posting your experienced on mortgage application?
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Yup, the whole thing, after going to about 6 banks (maybe more).


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