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dasecret
post Jul 12 2016, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jul 12 2016, 09:50 AM)
The whole idea of Investment-Linked Policy is BUY TERM, INVEST THE REST, but managed by the insurance company.
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Question - I've been telling people to pay attention to the investment linked funds as part of the selection criteria when selecting insurer. And people think I'm nuts

Last I checked, 3 years annualised returns for Msia equity inv linked funds for AIA is 8+% and Prudential is 2+%
In the long run this is going to make a lot of difference

Now tell me, am I really wrong to think the inv linked funds returns do matter when it comes to deciding which insurer to go with? Inv linked funds are not premium guaranteed, if the funds don't perform we may need to top up premium later on to cover the insurance charges
dasecret
post Jul 12 2016, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(Kilohertz @ Jul 12 2016, 09:59 AM)
There are a list of funds to choose from when you buy an IL, are you comparing an apple to apple between AIA and Prudential funds? For example, the agent who sold AIA might chose an aggressive funds and coincidentally for that particular year, the market was good whereas the agent from Prudential chose a low risk fund. Just an example.. well if both funds are identical and AIA performed better, I would guess their fund managers are better at investment  biggrin.gif
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Oh, I did it myself. I'm experienced enough in funds to be able to do that
Some of my old postings
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry79452016
dasecret
post Jul 12 2016, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jul 12 2016, 10:04 AM)
Cost of insurance with ILP DOES increase, just that u do not see it.

E.g.
U pay RM200 every month
Your COI for Year 1 is RM50 a month
RM150 goes toward investments, RM50 used up for COI

Your COI for Year 2 is RM60 a month
RM140 goes toward investments, RM60 used up for COI

... ... ...

Your COI for Year 20 is RM150 a month
RM50 goes toward investments, RM150 used up for COI

And so on and on...
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Actually it's in the projections shown in the proposal. If you are diligent enough, you can compare across other insurers and also with term life policies. Generally they don't run too far

QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jul 12 2016, 10:05 AM)
True at this. When u buy ILP, u need to look for the insurance company with a solid fund management team.
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I'm just pissed that everytime I raise this people talk down on me like I'm some Id*ot. Of course, also pissed that I'm with the insurer that has the low returns in their inv linked funds ranting.gif
dasecret
post Jul 12 2016, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(Kilohertz @ Jul 12 2016, 10:17 AM)
Did you make a switch? Hopefully it's still not too late..
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Nope, I did not make the switch, I've had the policy since 2009, which means I finally paid off the hefty commission. I'm not about to start again. As to switching within prulinked funds, unfortunately the old policies can only switch within the local funds which all feed back to the same gigantic equity fund and bond fund, so there's really no alternative.

What I can do however includes - spread the word so that others don't make the same mistake. And if I do it hard enough, maybe one day the giant insurer will realise they need to buck up with their inv linked funds and do something about it. That's my version of win-win situation and little contribution to the society

p/s: Insurance agents need not PM me. I'm well insured and do not need another policy. besides, I trust you can tell that I'm a difficult client if you bother to read my postings

This post has been edited by dasecret: Jul 12 2016, 10:25 AM

 

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