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Junior high school isn't easy for anyone. But for Merle Yost, it was constant dread. He was tortured with bras hung over his locker, the constant assignment to the "skins" team during gym class, and a particularly brutal nickname ("Tits"). "I learned really early to cover up and hide, and I spent the next 20 years wearing big shirts to cover my chest," he recalls.

Two decades and two breast-reduction surgeries later, Yost, 49, is a California psychotherapist, author and host of a Web site that deals with the condition that caused him to grow abnormally large male breasts, gynecomastia. He's one of thousands of men who suffer from this common disorder—many unknowingly. It's a condition that can cause permanent damage to a guy's self esteem—especially if it occurs at a young age. "I haven't gone swimming in five years, and I have never taken my shirt off in public," says one 19-year-old in a post on Yost's site.

The condition may be most devastating to teens, but it can strike at any age. In fact, nearly 50 percent of all men will experience gynecomastia at some point in their lives, according to Glenn Braunstein, the chairman of medicine at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center in Los Angeles and the author of a recent New England Journal of Medicine article on the condition. Many sufferers don't know that gynecomastia is a medical condition caused by hormone fluctuations and weight gain. Nor do they know that exercise or weight loss alone may not be effective in getting rid of male breasts once they develop.

Before male readers start to freak, we should point out that gynecomastia is both treatable and benign, generally caused by hormonal ups and downs that can occur naturally during infancy, puberty and middle age. And while nearly 65 percent of boys in puberty will experience it to some degree, in 95 percent of those cases the condition will resolve on its own, says Braunstein. Adult-onset gynecomastia is another story. It can sometimes be hereditary but is more commonly spurred by conditions like obesity, chronic kidney disease or an overactive thyroid, as well as by certain medications like steroids that cause hormone levels to shift. And while doctors don't know why it resolves itself in some people but not in others, some studies indicate that it will eventually abate in up to 80 percent of adult men.

One of the biggest culprits for adults—and one that's easily avoidable—is weight gain. Braunstein, a hormone expert, explains that when men gain weight, they're not just getting bigger; the extra weight is actually changing their hormone production—and not in a way that most men would like. By nature, fat tissue manufactures the female hormone estrogen, which in turn stimulates breast tissue—meaning that significant weight gain will always be associated with some sort of breast growth, even in men, according to experts. A person who's overweight will be fatter all around, and maybe even develop the excessive breast fat that doctors call pseudogynecomastia—the appearance of male breasts caused by fat alone. But Dr. Elliot Jacobs, a New York plastic surgeon who specializes in gynecomastia treatment (and who suffers from the condition himself), says that most really overweight men are developing actual breast tissue, not just some extra padding. Doctors say that virtually all obese men (those who have a body mass index of 30 or greater, experience some degree of breast growth. And once that breast tissue is established, it doesn't go away on its own—no matter how much you exercise or diet, warns Braunstein. Considering that 75 percent of Americans are likely to be overweight by 2015, according to a recent John Hopkins study, men may want to think twice about supersizing that cheeseburger.

The seeming inevitability of "manboobs" has even spurred some middle-aged men to embrace the situation. How else to explain all those fleshy bare chests at the beach and sporting events? And manboobs even entered the cultural lexicon with a "Seinfeld" episode in which Kramer designs a "bro" to help with George’s father’s breast development. Today "manboobs" are celebrated on Web sites and in songs.

But even if some older men have made peace with their manboobs, gynecomastia is no joke for many young men—particularly in a culture in which pecs of steel are the norm in the mainstream media. "The problem with adolescent onset gynecomastia is that it's happening at a time when kids are first becoming aware of their bodies," says Yost. "Kids at that point are really interested in fitting in, and this can make them targets for everything from emotional to sexual to physical abuse."

Some boys take to radical weight-loss diets or manic exercise regimens to solve the problem, while others go to extreme lengths to hide it: buying special clothes, wearing multiple layers, hunching over or wrapping themselves in Ace bandages—even gaining weight to shift the emphasis elsewhere. "I spent my teens hating the way I looked, changing in the corner for gym with my back to everyone," writes a young man on Yost's Gynecomastia.org. He says he spent "every sexual relationship" making sure his chest was never seen or touched. Another sufferer, 24, says he hated himself so much during adolescence that he "considered mutilating my chest with knives or scissors."

Impatient teens have few options. They can wait it out and hope the gynecomastia goes away as hormone levels fluctuate; most doctors say to give it two years or so. If it still persists, a doctor can prescribe an estrogen-blocker—a common one is the breast cancer drug Tamoxifen—to reverse the hormone levels. Or, as an increasingly common last resort, there's breast-reduction surgery, a procedure some 20,000 American men—including 14,000 teenagers—underwent last year, making it the fifth-most common male surgery in America, according to the American Society of Plastic Surgeons. "I hated having my shirt off, and all I did was work out," says Andre Zdanow, a 25-year-old New York college student who had suffered from gynecomastia since he was a teen and underwent the procedure last year. "The difference is really night and day."

Braunstein says he encourages teens to wait until they've passed puberty before they seek surgery, but that it can be a "very good option" for those who are cosmetically concerned. Felicia Farino, of Queens, N.Y., let her 10-year-old son go under the knife after he developed breast growth on just one side of his chest—and says it was the best decision she ever made. "Dylan had always been at the top of his game—in sports, in school, at home—and all of a sudden he was withdrawing," Farino says. "It wasn't an easy thing to go through. It was painful, it was expensive and he had to wear a corset. But immediately I saw a complete turnaround. Within a week he was back to his old self."

Plastic surgeons say the procedure today is easier, safer and more effective than it's ever been. The surgery ranges in price from about $4,000 to $10,000 and can take as little as an hour, depending on the size and makeup of the breast, which can range from puffed up nipples to more fully formed breasts. In some cases surgeons use liposuction to remove fatty deposits and glandular tissue, all through a "tiny nick in the skin"—about an eighth of an inch, says Jacobs, who has performed the surgery on more than 1,400 men. In more severe cases a surgeon may need to open up the breast to remove tissue and excess skin, and occasionally even reposition the nipple.

Of course, it's good to keep in mind that not all surgeons are created equal—and the procedure is not without risk. Many pediatricians worry that if surgery is done too early, the hormones that caused the breast enlargement could cause them to regrow. Yost says that breasts grow back following about 30 percent of surgeries. The surgery can also be expensive—and is rarely covered by insurance.

Even if the condition doesn't merit surgery, doctors are hoping that more men seek medical advice about treatment options instead of resigning themselves to a life lived with their shirts on. Talking about the problem, they say, is key. As Braunstein puts it, "Raising awareness of the condition—its causes, symptoms, treatments—will help more boys and men with gynecomastia be correctly diagnosed, and reassure them they are not alone."

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Gynecomastia, I`m curious, it is said that the only way is to undergo surgery or using an estrogen blocker. Why not working out and gain more mass and spike the testosterone levels instead of getting under the knife? Anyone can explain? Yes, I know it is said that it cannot be cured by diet and working out, but its just not good enough to prove me wrong.Its a good article though.
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Read once that manboobs is part of a genetic related disorder, causing guys to have 'em.


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lol, i want moobs for myself to make it into chest muscle!!!

anyway, i hate ppl who have a problem and whine about it.
SIEH!~ so what if u are fat? go on a diet and train urself,
So what if u have huge moobs? bench press and make it into chest muscle.
and dont say that is not easy, its THAT EASY, DISIPLIN AND COMMITMENT, and u will achieve it.

at the beginning of the year, i cant even do 3 push-ups infront 2 classes during PJ lesson in school( punishment for didnt bring pj shirt).
And after that, during recess, ppl will come up and laugh at me.
what would a average joe do? CRY and HATE The world for being unfair.

but i didnt, i found a problem, and i work for it.
Im now no1 strongest push-up, and no4 fastest runner between 2 classes in 5 months. and only kid between 2 classes who has 6 packs.


Nobody dare to perli me now.
(p/s: if u wondering why 2 class, cause our PJ lesson is taught together with another class)
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It's only embarrasing when it flops, right? What about overdeveloped pecs.. considered moobs too?
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QUOTE(Gamatatsu0207 @ May 20 2008, 03:33 PM)
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QUOTE(goldfries @ May 20 2008, 04:12 PM)
hey dude, if it's too long it's your problem. that's not a reason for you to spam.

if you can't bear the text, please just go browse other place. there's no need to spam.
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QUOTE(icypetals @ May 20 2008, 04:46 PM)
lol, i want moobs for myself to make it into chest muscle!!!

anyway, i hate ppl who have a problem and whine about it.
SIEH!~ so what if u are fat? go on a diet and train urself,
So what if u have huge moobs? bench press and make it into chest muscle.
and dont say that is not easy, its THAT EASY, DISIPLIN AND COMMITMENT, and u will achieve it.

at the beginning of the year, i cant even do 3 push-ups infront 2 classes during PJ lesson in school( punishment for didnt bring pj shirt).
And after that, during recess, ppl will come up and laugh at me.
what would a average joe do? CRY and HATE The world for being unfair.

but i didnt, i found a problem, and i work for it.
Im now no1 strongest push-up, and no4 fastest runner between 2 classes in 5 months. and only kid between 2 classes who has 6 packs.
Nobody dare to perli me now.
(p/s: if u wondering why 2 class, cause our PJ lesson is taught together with another class)
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I dont think its that simple, of just bench pressing and stuff. I just believe there is a science to it, on how to overcome the moobs. Am not saying that whatever you said is totally wrong, there are some sense in it but hmm..moobs.
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YOU CAN"T TURN FAT INTO MUSCLE...........

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Nice article!
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can the boobs turn to muscle?
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Absolutely not!

You can replace fat tissue with muscle tissue by working out but they don't just transform into each other!
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fat is never muscle, and muscle can never be fat. its like asking orange to turn into apple.

If you want to get rid of the moobs, the ways are up there in the article. And if u have time (which we all have actually), do some workouts. Not only is it healthier, but ur esteem will also be lifted.
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QUOTE(icypetals @ May 20 2008, 03:46 PM)
lol, i want moobs for myself to make it into chest muscle!!!

anyway, i hate ppl who have a problem and whine about it.
SIEH!~ so what if u are fat? go on a diet and train urself,
So what if u have huge moobs? bench press and make it into chest muscle.
and dont say that is not easy, its THAT EASY, DISIPLIN AND COMMITMENT, and u will achieve it.

at the beginning of the year, i cant even do 3 push-ups infront 2 classes during PJ lesson in school( punishment for didnt bring pj shirt).
And after that, during recess, ppl will come up and laugh at me.
what would a average joe do? CRY and HATE The world for being unfair.

but i didnt, i found a problem, and i work for it.
Im now no1 strongest push-up, and no4 fastest runner between 2 classes in 5 months. and only kid between 2 classes who has 6 packs.
Nobody dare to perli me now.
(p/s: if u wondering why 2 class, cause our PJ lesson is taught together with another class)
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1. Manboobs are made of fat, fat can't turned into muscle
2. Manboobs aren't just caused by obesity, it could be the genetic and hormonal inbalance
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ May 20 2008, 06:19 PM)
1. Manboobs are made of fat, fat can't turned into muscle
2. Manboobs aren't just caused by obesity, it could be the genetic and hormonal inbalance
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ya, but working out, it will make a diffrence to the moobs, dont u think so?
when u bench press, u also burn fat, so indirectly of undirectly u are also burning fat and later on develop the muscle underneath
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QUOTE(icypetals @ May 20 2008, 07:49 PM)
ya, but working out, it will make a diffrence to the moobs, dont u think so?
when u bench press, u also burn fat, so indirectly of undirectly u are also burning fat and later on develop the muscle underneath
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do u even bother to take 5 mins to read the article in 1st post, to be exact, its gynecomastia, where obesity isn't the only cause, go google pic with that keyword, see the major differences between them and the ordinary moobs. u should be thankful that u aren't 'gifted' with one

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fats can be turned into muscle

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Added on May 20, 2008, 8:09 pmoh btw..thanks Jones...good info.

at least we know a thing or two.

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the fifth articles / news i read / heard regarding man boobs today. sweat.gif

some of the huge issues highlighted causing the rise of manboobs esp. in teenager; - obesity, use of female hormone in food
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QUOTE(icypetals @ May 20 2008, 04:46 PM)
lol, i want moobs for myself to make it into chest muscle!!!

anyway, i hate ppl who have a problem and whine about it.

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Such people you mentioned are not the worst. the worst are certain people who whines about other ppl's whining/problem and NEVER think in their shoes for a while.

when a brain is properly used, its not hard to think that when people having certain health condition/predicament , its not that they don't wish to be so , but sometimes there are other factors that made it harder for them to improve for the better.

Anyway, your grand entrance into the world of LYN started with your insensitive remarks on people who did plastic surgery in one particular topic.

have a heart, will you?

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QUOTE(alanyuppie @ May 20 2008, 08:55 PM)
Such people you mentioned  are not the worst. the worst are certain people who whines about other ppl's whining/problem and NEVER think in their shoes for a while.

when a brain is properly used, its not hard to think that when people having certain health condition/predicament , its not that they don't wish to be so , but sometimes there are other factors that made it harder for them to improve for the better.

Anyway, your grand entrance into the world of LYN started with your insensitive remarks on people who did plastic surgery in one particular topic.

have a heart, will you?
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unfortunately, i have a heart. yet, i have a diffrent point of view in life.
i always think as "appreciate what you have, you only have 1 body, blessed by god'.(im not christian).
i have seen many side effects of plastic surgery, but i have also read many good articles about plastic surgery. eventhou plastic surgery has its goods, the bads are more if compared.

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Thats a long article jones smile.gif
Thansk for sharing . Everyone , Lets fight Moobs together then. lol .
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best advice i got from reading the article

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Doctors say that virtually all obese men (those who have a body mass index of 30 or greater, experience some degree of breast growth. And once that breast tissue is established, it doesn't go away on its own—no matter how much you exercise or diet, warns Braunstein.



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Has anybody figured that pumping up chest muscle actually emphasizes the moobs?

Not too good for self esteem i'd say...
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QUOTE(shanecross @ May 20 2008, 03:40 PM)
Gynecomastia, I`m curious, it is said that the only way is to undergo surgery or using an estrogen blocker. Why not working out and gain more mass and spike the testosterone levels instead of getting under the knife? Anyone can explain? Yes, I know it is said that it cannot be cured by diet and working out, but its just not good enough to prove me wrong.Its a good article though.
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if it is glandular tissue, exercise wont make it go away


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Thats a long article ..yet informative..
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Well why get obese in the first place, obesity is a choice not a disorder that just "happens".

Furthermore obesity harms health and promotes global warming, there are zero positives to obesity.





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Obesity shows that ur rich. tongue.gif Rich in food that is. biggrin.gif
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man boobs wont go away even tho you've lost fat or have chest muscle.

In fact, losing weight and building chest muscles makes it even more prominent as it sticks out of the chests like soft lemons. The rest of the chest will be rock hard except near the nipples and it will always be that way no matter how much chest muscles you build.

so please, do research before yapping about people whining. Even with meds moobs will come back and the only way to remove it is thru surgery.
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A terrible thing to have, this MOOBs.
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QUOTE(Kyoyagami @ May 21 2008, 10:36 AM)
Obesity shows that ur rich. tongue.gif Rich in food that is. biggrin.gif
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rich and lazy laugh.gif
that shows an usually slow rate of metabolisme..... which easily help in absorbing most of the foods' content doh.gif

btw, can manboobs converted into something like this;
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QUOTE(youngkies @ May 20 2008, 08:46 PM)
the fifth articles / news i read / heard regarding man boobs today. sweat.gif

some of the huge issues highlighted causing the rise of manboobs esp. in teenager; - obesity, use of female hormone in food
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avoid soy beans at all cost!

moobs are epidemic!
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QUOTE(T+1 @ May 20 2008, 11:42 PM)
best advice i got from reading the article
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QUOTE(yngwie @ May 21 2008, 12:38 PM)
rich and lazy  laugh.gif
that shows an usually slow rate of metabolisme..... which easily help in absorbing most of the foods' content  doh.gif

btw, can manboobs converted into something like this;
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moobs are boobs tissues la. they dont morph to muscle tissues
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QUOTE(Joey-kun @ May 21 2008, 10:50 AM)
man boobs wont go away even tho you've lost fat or have chest muscle. 

In fact, losing weight and building chest muscles makes it even more prominent as it sticks out of the chests like soft lemons. The rest of the chest will be rock hard except near the nipples and it will always be that way no matter how much chest muscles  you build.

so please,  do research before yapping about people whining. Even with meds moobs will come back and the only way to remove it is thru surgery.
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Curious about the science, why wouldn't the chest muscles burn away the soft lemon moobs?

I know female bodybuilders or athletes that have lost their breasty curves through exercise alone.
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notice why they still wear bras?
yes, the fat tissues gone, but the glandular tissues is there.
the women nipples is there

go to the link for further explanation.
men and women breast tissue are the same.

Breast Anatomy

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Scary to think about moobs.
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The good thing of having manboobs is just incase if he has breast cancer, that can be removed compare to man who does not have boobs where they have nowhere to cut.
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QUOTE(icypetals @ May 20 2008, 09:35 PM)
unfortunately, i have a heart. yet, i have a diffrent point of view in life.
i always think as "appreciate what you have, you only have 1 body, blessed by god'.(im not christian).
i have seen many side effects of plastic surgery, but i have also read many good articles about plastic surgery. eventhou plastic surgery has its goods, the bads are more if compared.
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QUOTE(ilovecookies92 @ May 28 2008, 06:02 PM)
The good thing of having manboobs is just incase if he has breast cancer, that can be removed compare to man who does not have boobs where they have nowhere to cut.
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this is funny.....cut the damn skin lar doh.gif


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The cancer affects the tissue,not the skin!

Breast cancer is very rare in males.
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i know...the tissues is under the skin la rite...


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QUOTE(Polaris @ May 28 2008, 03:57 AM)
Curious about the science, why wouldn't the chest muscles burn away the soft lemon moobs?

I know female bodybuilders or athletes that have lost their breasty curves through exercise alone.
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because its only gonna push out more breast tissue. those female bbers and atheletes use testostrone causing their boobs to dissappear
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QUOTE(ilovecookies92 @ May 28 2008, 06:02 PM)
The good thing of having manboobs is just incase if he has breast cancer, that can be removed compare to man who does not have boobs where they have nowhere to cut.
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What talk you, m8?
Having manboobs is probably a factor for breast cancer in men. For non-functional/non-active breast tissue (no manboobs) -- there's lesser risk of breast cancer.
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Manboobs are caused by FAT and ESTROGEN..when you take too much soya bean and chicken everyday..then your boobs will grow bigger.

Estrogen is a female hormone...and are aplenty in chicken and soya beans...also fat can accumulate in men's breast..so if you are kinda fat..then you will sure to have man boobs..but if you are not fat but eat too much Estrogen food you will also get man boobs.

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I've seen a skinny guy with obvious boobs sticking out of his chest. my eyes.
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post May 29 2008, 07:19 PM

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Can anyone expert here mind share me how to feel for true gynacomastia or due to brest in palpation
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QUOTE(Joey-kun @ May 29 2008, 05:44 PM)
I've seen a skinny guy with  obvious boobs sticking out of his chest. my eyes.
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entire chest or just the nipples? dunno how to say...lol

QUOTE(seijiseimura84 @ May 29 2008, 07:19 PM)
Can anyone expert here mind share me how to feel for true gynacomastia or due to brest in palpation
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you mean early symptom?


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I wonder whether most of the gynacomastia people will have mati pucuk or not
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QUOTE(lou chan @ May 30 2008, 12:13 AM)
I wonder whether most of the gynacomastia people will have mati pucuk or not
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whats the relevant?
gyno related to ED? didnt think so


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QUOTE(bata @ May 29 2008, 11:17 PM)
entire chest or just the nipples? dunno how to say...lol
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think skinny with permanent golf balls sticking beneath the nipples
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QUOTE(boonies @ May 29 2008, 05:22 PM)
Manboobs are caused by FAT and ESTROGEN..when you take too much soya bean and chicken everyday..then your boobs will grow bigger.

Estrogen is a female hormone...and are aplenty in chicken and soya beans...also fat can accumulate in men's breast..so if you are kinda fat..then you will sure to have man boobs..but if you are not fat but eat too much Estrogen food you will also get man boobs.

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this is new to me. Estrogen are plenty in chicken ? What about egg ? if true, then can only eat fish and red meat.

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QUOTE(Joey-kun @ May 29 2008, 05:44 PM)
I've seen a skinny guy with  obvious boobs sticking out of his chest. my eyes.
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Maybe he was oen of "those" people? You know, man-boy love is pretty popular In ceRtain middle eAstern countries Nowadays.
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QUOTE(malaysianPotato @ May 30 2008, 03:09 PM)
Maybe he was oen of "those" people? You know, man-boy love is pretty popular In ceRtain middle eAstern countries Nowadays.
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naw..he's married.
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I lol`ed when this statement was made " Chicken gives man boobs "
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i'm shocked hearing this chicken giving us estrogen. I eat alot chicken to build muscle sad.gif
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when i was small i love chicken breast, drumstick as well as soya bean milk...

now i have not exactly boobs, but a big chest... it is not fat, as when i flex it all becomes stiff... maybe because of my workouts but it is unlike others... very mah fan when wearing tight clothings
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A very interesting article on Soy which claims to contain Phytoestrogen.

Read.


Soy, Whats the big Deal?
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to be honest
i also got
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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ May 30 2008, 10:02 PM)
i'm shocked hearing this chicken giving us estrogen. I eat alot chicken to build muscle sad.gif
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KFC chicks got a lot of them, most chicks that breed in farm will have injection in order to grow faster
if want to be safe, just breed your own chickens laugh.gif
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ May 31 2008, 03:30 PM)
KFC chicks got a lot of them, most chicks that breed in farm will have injection in order to grow faster
if want to be safe, just breed your own chickens laugh.gif
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really?
then i want eat more chicken, i got small chest cry.gif
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I have not seen any guy with very low body fat to have manboobs, I think the only way to properly remove manboobs naturally is to have low body fat right?

I dont think theres any guy with clearly visible abs would have manboobs usually. Cuz boobs are made out of fats, so no fat = no manboobs

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QUOTE(Iliveunderwater @ Jun 1 2008, 01:54 AM)
I have not seen any guy with very low body fat to have manboobs, I think the only way to properly remove manboobs naturally is to have low body fat right?

I dont think theres any guy with clearly visible abs would have manboobs usually. Cuz boobs are made out of fats, so no fat = no manboobs
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not seen yet?
nah, specially for you laugh.gif

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QUOTE(bata @ Jun 1 2008, 03:45 AM)
not seen yet?
nah, specially for you laugh.gif

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man, that is disturbing.hahah
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That ruins the whole look.
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QUOTE(shanecross @ Jun 1 2008, 09:25 AM)
man, that is disturbing.hahah
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sorry, i added spoiler tags already.

actually, to those think that exercise can get rid of manboobs, there are 3 types of Gyno.

1) fat people (pseudogyno/false gyno)
2) once boy reach puberty one
3) steroids use

the number one can try get rid of it, by exercise. no 2 is norm, almost all boy who reach puberty get this, me also, but it will go away after that.
no 3.......have to go surgery, if they're not careful enough, like the pics i provided.


oh to those guy who want to avoid chicken, yes, they've been injected with estrogen to promote rapid growth, but what you want to eat?
would you be surprise if i say cows also got injected? its steroid named Trenbolone.
lol..... thumbup.gif

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if got wrong statement, ill be glad if someone can correct me for information's sake.

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The entire package was ruined because of that moobs. By the way, I’m sure there are workouts that can be put to practice to reduce/lessen the moobs, if not entirely eliminating it once and for all. I’d google for it but the high-end words used in the respective websites only make me want to post that question in here. If there is already a thread on workouts that tackles moobs, please point me in the right direction. If not, can you guys suggest any workouts that can be used to tackle this issue? Thanks, guys.
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does anyone know where to get these removal surgery done and how much

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QUOTE(peeky @ Jun 20 2008, 02:01 PM)
does anyone know where to get these removal surgery done and how much
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in amerika and over 9000 USD. They're expensive because the surgeon has to be specially trained for this. Not covered by insurance as it's considered as an elective surgery.


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lol, 5 days ago i when swimming and in the toilet.
I saw this guy in swimming trunk.

he was like 80-85kg of fat( can see tummy),

but wat caught my eyes is when i was washin my hand, i saw him washing his hand.

And his boobs was like sharp point, like a cone, just like a woman breast!
I would get an erection if i didnt see he was a male :facepalM:
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QUOTE(Joey-kun @ Jun 20 2008, 03:15 PM)
in amerika and over 9000 USD. They're expensive because the surgeon has to be specially trained for this. Not covered by insurance as it's considered as an elective surgery.
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about rm 8k in Sgpore


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that is very expensive!!!

go check with your endocrinologist and they can tell if you have it.

 

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