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TSmark0411
post May 18 2008, 09:51 PM, updated 18y ago

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Hi Guys,


I've just paid the deposit for a house at Saujana Utama 3 (developed by Glomac). The property price is 313k and it is still under construction.Would i be able to secure the loan if my gross salary is 4600 and my fiancee gross salary is 2300 + 700(overtime). I'm looking at 90% margin of financing and the loan tenure should be 35 years. The other question that i have is, i haven't confirmed my employment with my current company, will that be a problem since i don't have confirmation letter from the company? FYI i will be joining another company on June which offer 5000 base salary + 600 allowances. Lastly, for property that is under construction, does any particular financial institution have any loan package that will waive the 1st year payment?

Age :26
Current commitment
My credit card =rm200
Study Loan =150

Fiancee Commitment
Car=190
Study Loan=150


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TSmark0411
post May 18 2008, 10:19 PM

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yeah,i think so too, however the bank officer at maybank seems to think otherwise. He said without any confirmation letter it will be hard for me secure full amount of the loan applied. Nope, no car loan to service as i 'inherited' my mum kancil.

Any loan officer here care to give me any quotation?
TSmark0411
post May 18 2008, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(yewkhuay @ May 18 2008, 10:29 PM)
saujana utama only got maybank as panel? perhaps u wanto try UOB /Public /OCBC
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Nah, i just made a quick stop at maybank booth today. I'll enquire more info from glomac sales staff on the list of panel bank's tommorow.
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post May 19 2008, 12:42 AM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ May 18 2008, 11:46 PM)
mark0411,

1) If you are 26 years OLD, how can you get a 35 years loan?? I thought loan can only goes up to 55 years old aka retirement age.  So, maybe a 29 years or 30 years loan.

2) Let say it is a 30 years loan, so monthly payment is $1,700.  Current loan (200+150+ 150+ 190)  = $690.  So, total loan payment = $690+ $1700 = $2690 ~ $2700

3) 33% rule = Monthly income need to be $2700 X 3 = $8,100

The bank may be able to give you a loan.  But, you better ask yourself a simple question, can you AFFORD the house??  Your financial situation is VERY TIGHT.  If we hit recession or you lose your income for a few months up to a year, you may lose the house.

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1) Correct me if i'm wrong, there are several banks that offer loan tenure up to 40 years. The retirement age for this case would be 65-70.


2) If i'm loan from UOB, the monthly installment would be roughly around 1536 for 30 years tenure. If 40 years tenure is indeed possible the monthly installment will be 1386.

3) Based on your logic, i may not be able to afford any house at all. If i were to factor in the risk of recession or getting my employment terminated, than no house is affordable enough if i dont have any money to pay...even though i purchased cheaper house.

Anyone from UOB here?


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post May 19 2008, 08:00 PM

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If i were to take a loan for 35 years just to get lower monthly installments and later refinance it to reduce the tenure and principal, will that be a good idea?

I'm not comfortable with the idea of paying 1500-1600 per month, i would rather pay between 1200-1300 instead until i could manage to get higher salary etc.


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post May 19 2008, 10:44 PM

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Dreamer,

3) We do have emergency fund that can lasts us for about 7-8 month minimum. I do think about the risk of recession often, that is why i dont purchase higher end property.

That's the reason i want to take longer loan tenure, so that i have some breathing space especially during the 1-2nd year of our marriage. Thank you for the tips about refinancing.I will bear that in mind.


Pai,

Yes, our combined income are more than 8k excluding bonuses. I just need the extra money for the wedding ceremony proposed to be held end of next year and some of the extra money saved will be channeled towards investing.



My plan is to get a loan that will allow me to pay the absolute minimum (no payment at all would be better) for the first year of the loan period and save the money for the ceremony. After that even with 1.5 commitment monthly, i think we can survive as we are saving around 3.5k monthly combined.

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post Jun 8 2008, 06:11 PM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ May 20 2008, 06:58 AM)
mark0411,

1)  Your 7 to 8 months emergency fund include or exclude the house payment.

<<After that even with 1.5 commitment monthly, i think we can survive as we are saving around 3.5k monthly combined.>>

2) Is that 3.5K before or after house payment??

To survive financially, you need to save 10% to 15% of your gross income.  In your case with combined income of 8K, that means RM800 to RM1,200 per month.

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I've decided not take up the house or loan after all. I think i'll just wait and see on what's going to develop over the next 12 months before deciding whether to buy 300k house or cheaper and smaller house.

So guys, what do you think will develop over the next say 12-18 months? Do see the house price increasing or decreasing?Do you think its a good idea to be put off the plan to buy a house for now?
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post Jun 10 2008, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Jun 10 2008, 10:44 PM)
That's ridiculous. Are you saying that people who make less money need less money to live ? smile.gif if I make say 2000, I will need 200-300 to survive. But if I get a new job that pays say 5000, suddenly I will need more to survive even though my expenses haven't changed ? tongue.gif

Under normal circumstances, for most people, the higher the salaries they make, they tend to commit to a lot of expenses.



Added on June 10, 2008, 10:46 pm

Agreed. House prices always go up in the long term. The simple reason is that land is limited, and more houses are being built.
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I'm not talking about 5-10 years or even longer, i'm talking about the next 24 months


QUOTE(looqsonline @ Jun 10 2008, 10:52 PM)
don't buy any new projects now ... go for second hand .. 200k plus subsale condos near public transport like lrt. new projects now are expensive because of raw material prices so they are not worth it to buy. alot of developers are saving on material now so don't buy developer units now. or at least wait till end of the year. everyone is scared that china will start dumping all their raw resources after the olympics. wait til after june next year for a lot of other reasons.  but for now look for subsale units and buy one next to public transpoirt like lrt so that next time when u move into another unit u will be able to rent it out easily. so what exactly are u looking for? have you thought about the areas u want to live in? where ur life is and where you work or where you think u like? by the way i'm an agent just sharing my thoughts and views with you.
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I'm looking for landed unit, the price range around 250k-330k, terrace 2 story. Area around sunway kayangan,alam suria,alam budiman, nusa rhu,bukit subang or putra heights.

 

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