I feel very dilemma now between 2 new houses, and the distance between new houses no too long also, just around 2km somethings...

i staying at tmn sri muda now, decide to move out since the environment getting messy because of the industrial area, getting cheap labour from oversea and work for them...

actually i more expecting on quality life style for long term straying without moving anywhere again, but just afraid the low cost houses will attracted the labour to move in and make my life suck... but at the same time, my gf parents seem like prefer RM288k more than RM308k is because easier to get ppl help from low cost houses residents rather than "higher class" residents... because the residents may proud and not willing to help and guards may useless also even i paid montly fees

1. Indah Residences located Kemuning Utama, Shah Alam
Price RM308k, 22X70, 2,100 sq. ft., guarded with gate security (RM30 per month only)
but smaller land in front and back, lesser to worry that the environment will getting worse since is guarded

2. Jalan Arif 25/130 located at Tmn Sri Muda, Shah Alam
Price RM288k, 22X93, 2,500 sq. ft. (estimate), no gate & security.
plenty of land in front and back, i worry that the environment will getting worse since is not guarded

hopefully i can get u guys prompt reply with professional comments... because going to make decision by 2molo... thanks...

This post has been edited by gkl83: May 21 2008, 12:54 PM

Folk,

1) Do not buy a house until you get married. What if you have a NEW girlfriend, she does not like when you are staying??

2) Is the place has GOOD school for your children??

How could ANYONE consider a place for long term stay of they do not think about wife and children??

Dreamer

<<I feel very dilemma now between 2 new houses>>

This is BAD English.

It should be

<<I am in dilemma now deciding between 2 new houses>>

This post has been edited by dreamer101: May 18 2008, 07:37 PM

Looks like Dreamer is running Sunday School today

If a purchase is necessary, I would choose one which, can serve both investment and residential purpose. Yes, it will probably cost a little more but spare me the headache when dispose or lease.

Location, Location, Location... always remember that.

Thank for reply...

sorry for my engrish... i feel frus and confuse just now since my gf parents commented better get that RM288k new house , but i prefer Rm308k for better environment... i feel sick on such messy house environment again although cheap for us to affordable...

actually me and my gf had the intention to marry now, just bcos lack of money so we postponed our plan... but we prefer to get a house before marry, so we have to postpone our marriage plan again and again... so should very low probability that i will get a new gf again... also, my gf loyal on me as well...

regarding school, difficult to definite that which is the good school since involved 10years later... maybe the school nearby my house definite as one of best school around Selangor... actually there have schools around tat areas, so we not worry about it and convenient for kids to travel by bus from that areas.

also, about the location for our daily working, we found that kemuning utama (new house) is the best place which ease us to travel... actually we did consider on USJ4 house buy slightly overbudget and old house somemore...


location for new house and affordable by us... kemuning utama should be the best choice for us... we did survey around klang valley but most of them are out of our budget...

I fancy the 1st 1 bcos of the G&G for the peace of mind
too much space sometimes is not a good thing if its left empty
adequate space will be enough

how about the land title? leasehold or freehold?
might be a factor to be consider too

gkl83,

Come on. You CANNOT AFFORD to get married but you can AFFORD to buy a 288K or 308K house?? This does not make ANY sense.

Are you buying this jointly with your GF or yourself only?? Your monthly income has to be 7K to 8K to afford the house. Do you earn at least that much??

Start with the BASIC first question. Can you afford the house to begin with?? If yes, how do you know?? Did you do the calculation??

Plus, to move into a new house, you need another 20K to 30K for furnishing and others.

You just told us that you CANNOT afford to get married, does that mean you do not have about 50K savings (down payment, S&P, furnishing, renovation and etc )??

Dreamer

I kinda agree with Dreamer on this.
It's hard to believe that someone can afford a house with that price tag and yet can't afford to get married. (Unless you and your gf is planning for a very luxurious wedding here)

btw, if it's this house is going to be under both of your name, I would suggest you to AT LEAST get registered first.

Not to say that anything bad will happen in the future but the fact is, future is uncertain
and this is to avoid any unnecesarry problem in the future. Think about it. I have seen too many cases.

Actually what your gf parents got to do with your decision to buy a house? Unless they plan to stay with you after the marriage.

You buy the house that you like.

I don't know both the areas U spoke about v well but based on given information, I would go for the one at Kota Kemuning - U did mention about current security issues at the 2nd place. If u don't / can't feel safe when ur at home, how are u going to live in the long term?

I also agree with whatever else dreamer101 said And can't understand how U managed to find $ for a house and not a wedding - u don't need too elaborate a wedding if u don't want. And anything *can* change even if ur loyal or she's loyal to u; it's not necessary due to a 3rd party ya know?

both of them are freehold... but the land of kemuning utama seem like value than jalan arif...

we afford to buy a house if based on our income and we did discussion with 2 bankers. both of them said that we still afford to buy house but still required to wait their processing units to reply, most probably 70%-85% will be approve...

about furnishing we can plan later, location is the most important for me... 1st, the new house near to my old house, if anything happend on paretns at old house i can rush on time... 2nd, we knew in future still have plenty of house will build later, but question was is there any new house will build around klang valley? new house will be build, but around rawang, jalan sungai buloh, setia alam, klang, nilai, putrajaya, etc which in no convenient for us to travel...

also we dont mind without furnishing or renovation 1st, our commitment just required a simple & comfortable house which located at suitable location...

we planned to simple wedding if planned to buy house, but my gf still prefer to get a house instead 1st because after 1-2years may having difficult to get new house around klang valley which in convenient for us and the price tag may higher than now... we did survey around newspaper, brouchers and thru agents... but still kemuning utama still worth to buy if compare with others... otherwise if we wait for 1-2years, we may end up to purchase old house around USJ which cost us RM350k

perhaps i can try to propose my gf to register first, my gf is not the type who always spend my money, she always did saving for herself and for both of us... even both of us have our own saving for back up purpose which may used for marraige or for children future educational...

actually just wanna get more comments only... i will regret that i bought the house but our friends say that this house unwell for us to stay... heart pain man...

perhaps we may go to register 1st to prove our commitment with each others...
but she still perhaps to get house instead of wedding since we can marry anytime, but no for house (i means the locartion)...
since my gf have the same commitment with me, RM308k get new house, but RM330k get old house...
why dont get new house instead and design the house by ourself...

This post has been edited by gkl83: May 19 2008, 01:01 PM

@gkl83,
It seems as if Ur only talking about the Kota Kemuning one? I guess U've made up ur mind; shouldn't U be convincing ur future in laws and girlfriend on that decision, instead of us?

22 x 93 is quite large. I doubt there'll be many houses in future with that kind of size; even then it would come at a price. I understand your considerations but choose the one U think U'll like to live in cause u will probably live in that one for the next decade or so

This post has been edited by tinkerbel: May 19 2008, 06:16 PM

not lah... i just require comments from public only... for me i will prefer on kota kemuning house, i did google again just now, most of them over budget and too far for travel... but my next target may taman putra prima since i found the price slightly cheaper, but i think my gf wont like it much since the traffic issues around LDP from puchong to PJ when working hours and required to pay toll fare... at least the KESAS have upgrading project near the proton factory there due to heavy traffic on the junction there... she just have to concern on USJ traffic and not need to pay any tolls fare...

This post has been edited by gkl83: May 19 2008, 08:21 PM

@gkl83,
She's got a point about tolls. I suppose traffic is unavoidable but that really depends on where U work and where u often commute too. U should perhaps think over the options U have and come back to us for comments when u've finally decided on the short list

i think will end up with kemuning utama since my gf and me agreed that is the best location for us for daily activities... my gf's parents agreed on our choices to choose tat house at last, better environment compare with others non-guarded gardens... but my parents keep saying "out there still have plenty of houses, not necessary rush to buy a house"... duh... i think dont have much new houses around Klang Valley with affordable pricing after 2-3 years... furthermore, i believe they wont stay those new houses too which located outside of Klang Valley boundary, very un-convenient...

Kota Kemuning sure sounds better. Anyway do not rely on those guards.. G n G is good if the guards are doing their job well. Or else it is as bad as the environment u mention earlier. Furthermore KK is a good place whereby the property prices will gain good capital after a few years. Anyway another thing is that do make sure you and ur gf have make the right decision for such commitments, it 25 to 30 years of commitments. Think about it.

may i know what is G n G? a company name?

actually not exactly inside the kota kemuning... that kemuning utama was outside of kota kemuning and easy access to KESAS highway, but kota kemuning required to travel a distance before reach KESAS... further more kemuning utama have 2 road options go toward to KESAS as well after a new junctions built between kemuning utama and KESAS... also, the guarding can be change to another company after 5 years contract with them... but still wont expecting them much since thief still able to climb a high brick wall as well and may steal our car like nothing... but at least still better than nothing since Indah Residences only have 1 main gate only for entrance and exit...

about commitment, may still a question mark in future... but at least i know each other have the same commitment and insist to take this house now, no one will know what will happen in future... but i still believe that we have the strong commitment for now and future...

This post has been edited by gkl83: May 20 2008, 12:36 AM

gated and guarded

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Added on May 20, 2008, 8:46 amthat's not very true
raw material price is shooting sky high now
now the standard price for a DSL is around 200-300k
in the near future like 2010 i doubt one can get a decent DSL for less than 350k

This post has been edited by driftmeister: May 20 2008, 08:46 AM

driftmeister,

Who say so?? We will hit a recession first. Then, you can have your pick of DSL at good price. There are SO MANY people that over-buying house, it does not take much to push them over.

Don't rush into buying a house. Especially, in a new housing area. You have NO IDEA what will happen to that area.

Dreamer

yup.... i knew that as well... last time my relative bought putra height house cost RM260k last 2 years, now their house's pricing increased to RM320k...


any guides/ideas for me about how to choose proper new houses?
i may going to PWTC this friday about property showcase to allow me have more choices... but i think most of the new properties will not located around Klang Valley now and required to use toll everyday, and the new area should be question marks for us since is developed on the boundary of Klang Valley and not near to any city/town... so just trying my luck there...

gkl83,

<<yup.... i knew that as well... last time my relative bought putra height house cost RM260k last 2 years, now their house's pricing increased to RM320k... >>

My neighbor bought his house for 250K and spend 100K renovating 6 year ago. Now, he cannot even sold for 250K. One of the house in the same row just sold for 190K.

<<any guides/ideas for me about how to choose proper new houses?>>

IMHO, do not buy new house. Too much risk. I prefer to buy from secondary market aka built house. Last recession, developer abandoned their project and left house buyer in deep shit. Next time, you go to Klang, you can see the tall abandon condo building next to Jaya Jusco.

Dreamer