I'm doing Digital Animation, so far I'm in my 2nd year entering my final term. I can tell you that most of your time will be on your projects / assignments, but there is still time for gaming if you manage your time well. Of course, there will be those sleepless nights regardless esp if your work is pushed to the last minute.

In my first year to 2nd year 1st term, I was damn semangat, can spend whole day without rest and sometimes skipping meals to finish up an assignment. Whereas it can be done in like, 2 hours actually. Why I took so long is because we're still studyin, so the time is actually spent on experimenting. So it depends how far you want to go, of course if you spent all your time experienmenting and exploring, later in the future it'll be easier for you.

For example I've been studying alot on figure studies and life drawing, I just love doing them, during my life drawing classes / figure classes, I went beyond my limits, now when asked to draw figures or so, I can sketch 10 to 20 in a jiffy. Of course, it isn't a gifted talent but something I've worked for.

Though now the fire is dying out, so my everyday life during college is like:
-Attend class
-Have lunch / dinner talk c*ck sing song with friends
-Go home finish up some assignments
-Play game
-Sleep

Yes, I still get sleep, maybe 4~6 hours? Sometimes less sometimes more. Depends on how fast you finish your assignments. Which is why I said, during first year, don't slack, just give it your all so that you won't struggle much later on, cause basics are very important.

That's about it la, if you want to know more and got any questions just pm me. =)


I haven come across such lecturers before, except one. But he's exceptional as he is a tutor. Lol, true, TOA students are more or less zombies cause they dont get enough sleep. You know, we could get enough sleep if we kill our gaming time / shopping time / chores and etc, but no, I don't think we can survive without them.

As for those rich arses in TOA, I agree, I would highly suggest that if you can't make it through first term and second term in the first year, just quit TOA. It's not for you.

For those zombies you speak of, who only spend their time on their art, those are the 'A' students who have receieved Dean Awards and scholarships and sponsorships from TOA and other companies or so. So there is compensation for their sacrifices.


Seeing that you only have 2 figures a week, I think you are my junior? Because I used to get 4 figures to draw a week, and same like you, 4~6 hours on one piece. And ofcourse, that's nothing for me to complain about to as my seniors and your seniors got it worst, they had 8 figures a week to complete.

On the girls part, there is hardly any head turning chicks around to look at, no offence. And again, I haven't come across any lecturers like that.

I agree on the work hard and play hard and you will get your results. Everything reflects on what you have done, if you put effort, you'll be rewarded, if you didn't, then don't expect seeing your classmates again.

Yes, those who fail deserves it.


TOA is not worth your time if you don't plan in investing half your time in your assignments / projects. =) The other half is on those other stuff like games and sleep. xD


All in all, I'm not being biased about TOA cause I'm from TOA. I'm just sharing how my life has been for the past 2 years in TOA, what I've seen, people I know, and etc.

In summary :

Zombies : People who sacrifices their time and life and put all their dedication into their artwork, but in compensation they get recognition and sponsorship / scholarship. These are the people who actually gets to work in those big ass firms or are hand picked by the companies such as Ubisoft, Pixar and etc. I got no idea how many companies have come down to TOA, but I know recently Ubisoft made a visit here.

Balanced : These are your average students, they don't get much sleep, but they still got time for games / movies / shopping and etc.

Weirdos : Those who keeps failing, no offence but most of the time they are people you wanna stay away from, failing once is alright, as shit happens. But being in 1st year 2nd term for 2 years, that's just a waste of money and time.

This post has been edited by Kengraphy: Dec 21 2008, 10:11 PM

Lol, see what I mean? xD

Even 4 sketches from me a week I don't think I have the rights to complain.

When it comes down to money, I don't think it relates to the profession you are going for or will be doing.

In the long run if you have passion for it, eventually you'll be successful and money will prolly start rolling in.

I'd suggest you just enter what you like doing best, and you shouldn't rush into a course of education, you should sit down and think about it carefully. If you need help, seek those consultants or something. Because, if you can't decide and decided to enter a course because you are being rushed prolly because of parents or so, half way through you might decide it is not for you and quit. It'll be wasting both your money and time.

So trust me, don't rush, take your time, but don't take too long neither. The other solution is try talking to the students of these specific courses you are interested in, or even better with people who are already in the industry working. Ask them about their work life and how it is like. It sure helped me the last time. =)

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That's the irony truth, although he might have put it in negative tone. You are choosing between animation and hotel management, that's a huge difference in passion there. You should listen to Kengraphy.

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Dear Kengraphy and Einstei,
Thanks for both of your suggestion. Actually at first im struggling in the middle of choosing animation,business or hotel management. After i finish reading one of the post in others website,i cancel my taught of going for business cause im not that good in stuff like businessing althought i like to communicate with people. Now im left with choosing animation or hotel management. Its brain storming cause i like both very much. Its hard to make decision.

Do u guys come from TOA? Hows the environment there? One of the thing that made me worry is did the student there speak in english or in chinese with each others (almost all the student from TOA are chinese)? I scare that my speaking skill wounldnt improve and will face difficulty in the future career.

What can i work for after i finish animation? Can i survive in the salary?

Sorry to disturb you all again.

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You may not be interested in business now, but sooner or later you will need it. So, regardless you can't escape from it. =) But business is very generalized, it can be anything. The best way to learn business imo is always first hand experience, or you can just ask your dad.

Anyway, the environment in TOA is alright, even though it's not a campus like LKW, but I guess it's okay.

Well, don't fret about language, the lecturers here will usually communicate in the language that the majority of the class use, but most of the time they'll use English. When it comes to 1 on 1 critique they'll use the language the student is most comfortable with. Very versatile I must say. When you register into TOA, you'll have to undergo this English test to determine your power of English. This is to decide, which class you'll be heading. For example, most of the english educated and bananas will end up in XX-xxx-1, where as those you are slighty weaker in their english command will be in XX-xxx-2 and so on till XX-xxx-6 or so depending on the amount of students TOA can gather up.

Have you visited TOA's website? They mentioned what you are able to do after graduation for a specific course :
http://www.toa.edu.my/programme/diploma/animation.html

Lol, like what Einstei said, look back in the previous posts, if you are eager, you'd already have done that. =)

Multimedia is more towards flash, and codes such as java and actionscript and etc. You'll be doing those interactive stuff like what you find in flash websites. If I'm not mistaken some of my friends in multimedia are going to be doing film making next term.

And 3d, well, I'm sure it is self explanatory. Just think 2d/3d movies / cartoon, and where you might end up is maybe in pre-production, production or post-production. =)

Another way to put it, MM students do not learn the basic principles of animation, most of the time from their work, it is mostly very graphic. These are the 12 principles I'm talking about.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/12_basic_prin...es_of_animation

Whereas for animators, we must know these rules like the back of our hands.

Hopefully you can tell the difference now between MM animation and animation. Of course, there is no wrong for an MM student to learn the basic principles, but most of the time they won't be able to use it because they do not draw frame by frame unlike 2d animators[In Adobe Flash's case].