chat in pm yea we kind of spamming the thread...

ok, not bad topic. from getting info to uncle tong giving advice now some reunion. lol. gj ts.

I'm also from cd075-2, last time la

name please
same over here
used to be

What's all this cd075 thingy? Hey i wanna know too!

(LILY SUCKS.)

And thanks nikeshock .

batches. =)

To be precise, it's our batch's codenames? xD

CD is for foundation year, 07 is 2007 and 5 is for May. This is more or less our enrolment date into TOA. The -2 or -1 are our classes.

Yeap. for example, my batch is cd085 cd - communication design, 085- 8th of may intake.
=)

From what I can see in the movement of industry. Digital Animation could be the way to go. but if u are enthusiastic enough. take illustration and study 3d art on ur own.
illustration is cheaper but what u can learn from it is alot more than other courses.

wow so many lily sucks??
i still remember wht she said " use your common sense la"

Hey i'd like to know if there's any place like designing institutes, studios etc? Because i wanna check it out and see how they do stuff and whether they enjoy their work or not .

ts, google silverant studio and mfx

For those fresh-grat and interested to join a 3D studio, PM me. My friend's studio is hiring. I think the pay is good.

illustration can learn more than others? i tot illustration just drawing only..

Ohhh yeah guys, do you know any scholarships or how the system works? For arts colleges i meant.

I'm also a foundation student too. From CD081-3
Heading for Illustration but after browsing through the entire thread, art & design field is tougher then what I expect O.o
Btw, I found that the market is demanding for 3D artist right? So how about Illustrator? I mean after graduated from illustration how is the career things? Or should I just change my major...?

Wow, After the second page I just started to breeze thru and pick up keywords to get the gist of the topic. So here are my two cents about the topic.

It's been a while since I stepped into the front door of The One but I must say I did learn so much from my time there. Yes, there are periods of cursing and swearing behind the backs of various lecturers. Yes, there were the late nights with group projects and getting up to all sorts of hijinx with classmates. Yes, I had my allot share of resit subjects, mainly figure studies during 7th and 8th sem as the course load was getting too much.

Hey! KFC was also my lecturer for half a sem! Yes! I remember you very well and playing Ragnarok with you too XD

What I can honestly say is that The One was a good starting point but it doesn't mean that you are fully prepared to take on the industry after you leave it. When I graduated I was very adamant not to step into production right away with the rest of my classmates for 2 reasons. 1, I felt that they were all being taken for a ride by Silver Ant (almost the whole class was employed by them) who offered them a below the industry level salary. 2, I knew there was something missing from my education from The One but I couldn't quite put my finger on it.

I was very blessed at that point in my life to have been given the oppurtunity to study some more( God Bless my Great Grandfather and the inheritance) . Long Story short, I now specialise in Scriptwriting for Animation. I also go short 2d Experiemental Animations and have the amazing privilege to teach what I have learnt at a local Animation college in KL. My paper qualifications are such that I could have entered the faculty of MMU or any government uni without problems had it not been that I didn't wish to stuck in the middle of Cyberjaya away from known civilisation XD no offence to the MMU-ians)

Do I regret not going into production immediately? No. I would not have survived as an 'operator' like everyone. The competition was too great. When abroad I discovered what it was like to be a true artist. Yes, Animation is a celebrated artform. Visual expression at it's finest! I learnt the most valuable lesson. Decide what you are doing this for. Art for your living, or living for your Art. I chose the latter. I tell that to my students everyday. I don't want to help mass-train a bunch of computer monkeys for the coporate good. The college has those programs as well for shortcourse applicants and government tie-ins. I educate the diploma students to know that they are better than that. That they are meant for greater things because they can! Why be an animator for a project like Saladin when you can be the team leader? It's not difficult. In this day and age it's not so much about rank when you come in but your portfolio and creative skills.

Wah... went into lecturer mode back there... Anyways, always remember that you are an Artist. Keep this one Goal in mind whenever you are going thru rough patches with coursework and lecturers. The One has a system where they are required to fail a percentage of students every semester(for reason I would not devulge here) Keep your chin up and your marks above average and you will be find. How to keep your marks above average? Just make sure you hand everything up on time and you will be find. Even if you are not that good at drawing as long as the work is in you will be marked for effort at the very least.

Last note: going for digital animation is good because it's the course where you learn about all of the other majors. yes... you do some interior too in that.

Last Last note: WHAT??? 1 A3 figure a week??? THAT'S NOT ENOUGH! I HAD TO DO 4-6!!!! AND IT PROGRESSIVELY GOT MORE AS THE SEMESTERS ROLLED BY!!!

Hello saintangelius! Thank you for your insight!

Having said that Silver Ant studios would hire the majority of your class, are you stating that SA studios are just taking in the fresh-graduates, paying them salary below the market which actually disrupts a better future plan for these fresh-graduates? And i would like to know how long you took to finish your studies? Oh, and please explain more about Scriptwriting for Animation, 2D Animation etc. It seems that most people here agree on taking major on Digital Animation or 3D i think, because of the better pay, but what if i'm not interested in that? Do you think that i should explore more on Digital Arts or work hard towards my Interior or Multimedia Designing goal?

(wait, i feel im thinking too much..)

Mentioning your students, are you a lecturer or teacher? I'm living for my art because entering the arts realm for money isn't the most ideal way of earning loads of big bucks! Although money is an important factor which can be the only reason why i'm still deciding whether to venture into it, what i truly believe is to achieve in what i think i do best! Don't hope to end up doing business like.. most in my current school.

And i'd like to thank you for your great advises because previously i thought artists are lazy bums who just draw & design whenever they want to. But reading from all the replies from everyone here, it seems that the journey through arts isn't exactly easy. Which motivates me to work harder, and hone my drawing skills and photoshopping skills as well.

But my primary question is.. do you think Interior Designing is good? I really love how buildings are built, but even more how they're decorated inside and how the furnitures and textures are aligned to match with each other! Multimedia is great too, but i can't imagine staring at the computer for hours photshopping. But all in all, i'm not sure how all these courses are. That's why i started this thread, to know a little more about everything!

This post has been edited by booblegum: Jun 12 2008, 07:54 PM

Silver Ant like most other production studios out there (Dont' count MFX, Uncle Moon only hires the best, or at least that's what he says XD) I won't say that it discrupts the graduates getting a better future plan but from the experience of many of my friends working in there, they have said had they known better it the would be in a much higher position now in the new company that they are working in. With that said however, Silver Ant pulls in tons of japanese jobs that keep most of their staff happy because they think that they get to create all the in-game movies and opening trailers of square unix games. The one thing i disagree about with this situation is that they don't get the recognition for the job. SilverAnt has is stated in some contracts that the works are all incognito. Basically you can work there and after two-three years have no portfolio to show for it except for a recommendation letter from the boss.

I won't divulge more industry secrets to you. It's best to keep your image of the industry rosy for the time being

Scriptwriting for Animation. Writing Scripts/ Screenplays for animation is very different from what you do for TV or the movies. It's all about your story telling skills and making full use of what the medium has to offer. Animation is only limited by the storyteller's imagination. In film you have to consider real life and then stretch the bounderies for your story. A story written specifically in Animation is taking a dream/vision and making it real. Believable. Animation is the 'Illusion of Life'. In film screenwriting you take all that you have and mold it into a story. For Animation it's like being God you have to create everything from visual to sound to the things that happen off-screen as well. A big topic that usually stretches thru 15 weeks of class XD Haha! Yes, I'm a lecturer but I prefer to think of it as being part of the group. I learn alot too from the way the students react to the assignments and the ideas that they can create .

You can say now that you are living for your art. That's because you haven't been paid for your first job yet There will be times you'll find yourself going " Yes, Dato!" "That's the perfect colour, Puan!" "Anything for Dato and Puan!" As long as you catch yourself there is nothing that can be fixed. Just remember that you are the artist first and foremost. No matter what anyone tells you, Bright fushia shiny purple does not go with shocking lime green on a billboard

Artists are not lazy! We are just laying back in style

Business is not a bad thing. You will have to study business at one point sooner or later. It will help alot as an artist to understand what the way the client is thinking. Or your PhD in Marketing Management boss for that matter

Maybe instead of interior design you might want to go for being an Architect instead. Toss the two about. I do know that in it is okay for an Architect to reconstruct the layout of the house but not for an ID to change or remove any existing walls. Not everyone consults an ID before the house is built so you might end up working with some of the weirdest sized rooms and angles. I've seen houses in puchong that are just odd. Oh! and the condo near cheras where the master bedroom looked like a tetris match If ID is your calling then shop around a bit more. There are better schools than the one for ID Don't bother about multimedia too much. If you are diligent you can pick it up yourself. The market is over saturated at the moment. Almost every 16 year old can build a decent website these days.

This post has been edited by saintangelius: Jun 13 2008, 10:32 AM

Hey , it is good to hear that you are interested in this related field of studies , you have heard so much about the schools and the career opportunity but don;t be too worry about the future you seek as the opportunity may be different from what everyone tells you. In this related field , everyone is treated at the equal level eventhough your bosses call you a director by the end of the day you still don;t have the power to hold the decision unless...unless of course you have lots of money. Only then you can do something you wish to do but of course many artist around the world that would stand on their feet and truely believe in their artworks and hold their principal is always the type that will eventually , ' Fight with your bosses'

nonetheless , we put that lil story out of topic now i just want you to think for yourself in this moment and think of why do you want to join art and design? If you are thinking

- i like to watch anime
- i love to play games
- i like to watched 3D films like toy story
- i want to become an animator so i can make my own films

if any of the above statement matches your thoughts then i would strongly advise you to re-consider your future as these things is preety much impossible . Okay now , you might be saying that you want to change the current situation , mebbe i'd be the one? by joing the one academy? NO WAY!

you will have to fit in the requirements first.

-son's of dato's
-son's of rich parents (like richie rich and knows dato's)
-got a friend that is the son's of dato's
-going to be the son's of dato's
-your friend is a dato's
-you are going to be a dato's

these are some of the requirments to make you own stuff and be recognized.

but don;t worry too much again , this industry is not as bad as you think it is as long as you know that you are not working for money ( hold this to yourself and truely believe in it) you know that your art is a living material and you must constantly remind yourself as an artist and you'd be fine .

I'd recomend you to join One Academy (for their foundation studies) and then quit your school bring your transcripts and join the other 3D schools.

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Added on June 13, 2008, 10:58 amand we're not lazy..put it this way , factory worker's wears blue colars and office employees wears white colars artist just wear whatever they wants to wear as long as they look good for the day.

Artist is given a chance to express themselves in many different ways and art by itselves creates revolutions and became a lifestyle for everybody including you. No worries okay..by the end of the day the decision is still in your hand. Do what you think its good for you and don;t give up easily.



This post has been edited by alantan: Jun 13 2008, 10:58 AM