because people get shocked" until no words can be said....
anyway.... im driving my persona in 2krpm for almost 1 week adi..
topspeed 80km/hr... and still got half tank petrol left.
my last tank of RM1.92 petrol....later pump donno need how much adi....
huhu

place like taiwan..there petrol also hike recently. but they got 1 good part is....every packet of items or food or snacks..they will put a whole country fixed price...so they cant simply sell the item with the price they like..for example...coke...some places selling 1.50 some 2.50...but in taiwan..the item will put for example..200..u can below that price but not lower then that. i think whether is malaysia got petrol anot really doesnt matters..because the petrol we having not suitable for cars..(thats what i heard). just blame on someone who is buying future petrols...

ur car is still new yet..ur ECU setting on RPM is not yet remanage yet...new car u can feel power roaring in ur engine with only 2000 rpm...u can few the acceleration...of cos FC high
thats why when u go to ur 1st service they remanage ur ECU and change to 3000-3500rpm to produce roaring power.. 1 of the way to make FC lower...but acceleration is not as good as new...
my car is going for 2nd service this saturday.. and my current FC shown in meter is 6.5-7L/100km....mine is persona iafm auto......and persona start high FC after u go up to 100km/hr...best is below....persona doesnt have FC as low as City or watever eco car....

HULK.....i going to watch ur movie...hhaaha

eh what i heard is the petrol we are selling is not suitable for vehicle usage...
something with the RON...or something else...
if the petrol is not suitable...no point selling back to us rite?
because there is alot ppl worried their so call VTEC cannot produce fullpower with certain of petrol.
i must state here, i also feel the burden of petrol increment because my salary is categorized as no tax salary...that means under 2k....

ya...malaysia is diggers...dig petrol only...refinary i think not done by here.

Hulk, in some expect we cant direct compare to middle east country nor brunei...and i think comparing to thai and sg or US even UK doesnt make any sense too..because all country have different policy for the ppl who live in there...my fren's sister stay in germany...he said if there is a car washing shop near ur house...u cannot wash ur car at ur house...the shop owner can sue u because u are not letting them to have the bussiness...and do u know germany tax is 50-60% of salary? that means u earn 4k minus 50-60% of tax then the left overs is urs... 1.8k or 2k left....
tax is damn high in german...so as the petrol....cheap car is no matter anymore.... because u still pay so much for the car to run....because initial cost is high...

if u think like a business man, i cannot deny that petronas is doing anything wrong..as a business man profits is no1.
how to take care of people like us is gov job...then it is the Gov job to talk to petronas about the most effective way.
blaming on petronas and gov alone isnt fair.....if want to blame ..blame those who vote for them....

yes u are correct...in some issue profits always come in mind before service come second..
because u always think about profits then only come service to keep the profit going..
yes petronas is own by the gov...but own doesnt mean u can do what u want....i not really sure about th board of directors in petronas...but if gov is the owner there will only some seats in the board of directors..
decision made with votes of majority. because there is also people who invest in petronas who are not
Gov servant.

yes i agree on social responsibility, thats why its the Gov work not petronas work....petronas work is to pump to petrol and sell it with high price and take benefits from it...service come later...pump petrol and transportation and selling itself i think it involve thousands of staff...
profits is from exporting...and part of profits go back to subsidize...this what i know...
the petrol rakyat using is paid by the subsidize amount paid by petronas...that all.
every litre of rakyat using, petronas contribute few % of it...

im just try to explain in the other way of view...
im not work with both petronas and gov..
i work as property management.hehe

wow....HULK do part time as ah-long..
sure can get back money lo...hehehe jkjk

ya...money missing...but how..we cant do anything with it...
cant sue them for money mis-use....
but i heard from my friend, gov servant meeting go holiday o.o
they go redang or tioman ...for meeting only... omfg
and sometime meeting got buffet somemore...
so nice...i meeting only got 1 small cup of mineral water..
mayb Gov is overspend in admins fee...aka buffet while meeting)
huhu

care to explain why car increase 3k? selling good then increase impossible kua...
got add any nice accessories anot? like body kit like brunei model? or CPS?hehe

from what i heard..proton produce a H-line every X amount of base and Medium line is produce..
thats why H-line is slower.. but until 3 months then i donno...mayb u go check with proton..but u must know ur booking number....call and check out.

so around RM 500 can kautim?>
can DIY? issit hard to install for those newbie?
i also plan to put these too....

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Added on June 25, 2008, 1:18 am
air flow device,voltage stabilizer,k&n air filter are very easy to install.just the ground wire i still cant n not dare to install it myself.coz if i install it in wrong way i afraid will damage my car's ecu.becoz ground wire is connect from battery(negative) to alternator,engine's block n.......not dare to try it.better waste rm25 ask ppl install it for safety.

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those these items is consider 1 set??
cos for example...turbo need bigger intercooler.
so if put ground wire need put the others to control??

spam!!
lol just kidding....
last 2 week my fuel lid broken....and this week is the replacement week.
need confirm with the SC to make appointment and fix up then my persona 1 more prob free.
hehe

Why go for MIVEC..
go turbocharge and enlarge piston campro..
like those who made gen-2
eh u smoke ppl using campro is always the best..
because stock engine ma...

hehe...rm0.25 per km while my company milege claim is rm0.80 per km..
why bother.....lol
but persona FC is not the worst is the best thing we can get.....
FC should be the normal 1.6 should have then ok for me..
don like 1.3 mazda but drink petrol like 3.0....lol (i know i know rotary engine ma)

theres a sentence in BM
"lama-lama, kamu biasa."

u will used to it very soon...
now i want use my dad's car with the LED ring...also hard to find..
because hand automatic stick to the place which in persona...

try to ask SC to check out since it still in warraty period...
i heard from my fren who also drive a manual persona..
he told me his clutch actually "BROKEN" i donno how but its "BROKEN"
if u wan to keep a proton car in good quality, owners must do the work
because u know proton quality is.............. u all know....
take the initiative and go to SC and ask...ask them to check and show them the problem..
and don only go 1 SC...try go to those Dealers SC...some of them have different services...
peace V,,

your car FC go lower after 1st and 2nd service...
im must say proton persona is quite stable in high speed and smooth...
even my brother who "prefer" foreign cars also agree persona is ok with the comforts and performances....

HOHO...need rev so much bo??
140km/hr only wo...7k rev!!??
waste petrol....
now petrol expensive a....

redline means the red lining on 7k rpm...
as different car the redline is different...
rev until redline easily heating ur engine and its not very good if u do it frequently..
cos this engine not fully build for redline racing...engine might break down..
and with low milege...the risk is higher...

ya....campro love high rev...
u feet step abit...3k adi...abit more 4k adi..
but for my opinion...since the SC told me 3.5k is wher power comes...
but what i have found out is...ur 3rd gear around 4.5k is very powerful adi..
5.5k-7k is just wasting ur petrol and sound pollution..
unless u have change ur exhaust system...the sound sure Powderful..."Power+wonderful.." HOHOHO

i got mine also..
extension warranty period letter..
until year 2013 or 175k milege.
warranty using my insurances...
quite good....was thinking modify my persona. then the warranty just stop me...hahaha
nice package.