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post May 15 2008, 06:37 AM, updated 18y ago

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Guys,
i'm wondering.
1. Do companies, especially MNCs hire more overseas graduates than local graduates?
2. Are overseas graduates have more high profiles position as compared to local graduates.
3. Are overseas graduates paid more?! sweat.gif
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post May 15 2008, 07:31 AM

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i dunno how to compare oversea/local le....
i find it easier if compare...gov U vs private U/Col

1) i notice more private stud in my co than local, but the number of local is still quite surprising for me....

2) dis 1 i not sure....but highest person is foreigner... biggrin.gif

3) not really sure, but think all starter start off around the same....no one really stand out of another, unless u r comparing master stud n degree stud
it turn out depends how u contribute later if u out shine others.
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post May 15 2008, 12:08 PM

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I'm a foreign graduate as well from UK.. But i still get paid like local graduate... It's all depends on experiences and ur skills...
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post May 15 2008, 12:17 PM

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For freshies, a degree from overseas does not help you to get higher salary compared to local graduates, unless you graduated from top universities in overseas. But overseas degree can somehow help you to get a job easier, especially in MNC, if your result is 2nd class upper. For 2nd class lower, it's rather difficult for you to step in a company nowadays regardless where you graduated from.
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post May 15 2008, 12:34 PM

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there is no competitive advantage between fresh oversea vs fresh local graduate. Pay still the same. For malaysia, due to limited resources, what ever cat they will just grap it... some company even grap some resources from indonesia or thailand to work in malaysia.
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post May 15 2008, 12:47 PM

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if you graduated from top U locally or overseas ... you get higher pay than others in listed companies, MNCs
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post May 15 2008, 12:48 PM

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QUOTE(ibmsege @ May 15 2008, 12:34 PM)
there is no competitive advantage between fresh oversea vs fresh local graduate. Pay still the same. For malaysia, due to limited resources, what ever cat they will just grap it... some company even grap some resources from indonesia or thailand to work in malaysia.
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I don't agree your statement mentioning that supply is more than demand in the job market. I know some companies import talents from India, especially IT firms.

From Indonesia??? You mean skilled workers/labours or white collars? If it is white collars, I don't think so.

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post May 15 2008, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(winner @ May 15 2008, 12:48 PM)
I don't agree your statement mentioning that supply is more than demand in the job market. I know some companies import talents from India, especially IT firms.

From Indonesia??? You mean skilled workers/labours or white collars? If it is white collars, I don't think so.
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when i mention supply is more than demand? i said resource in malaysia is limited. Some company force to get resource from country nearby.

Yup, from indonesia, for skilled workers. U never see, doesn't mean its not the case. but its happened slowly and not in big scale.

This post has been edited by ibmsege: May 15 2008, 01:44 PM
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post May 15 2008, 01:43 PM

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if graduate from overseas, better dun work in Malaysia, U work for 10 years also cant get return for wat u have spend
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post May 15 2008, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(Dennos @ May 15 2008, 01:43 PM)
if graduate from overseas, better dun work in Malaysia, U work for 10 years also cant get return for wat u have spend
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heh I kinda agree with this.. if I graduated overseas I'd find a job there.. anyway I don't see much difference in IT field whether you grad from overseas or local.. they look for skills and experience and the technical certs you have

if you're talking about design/architecture/doctor/pharmacy then maybe it'd make a good difference
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If you study in oversea, why dont try to get a job in oversea ??

U come back here, your salary is same as local fresh graduate.

Even some of the local fresh graduate can get into MNC for a starting salary of RM 3K.
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QUOTE(roy_zu @ May 15 2008, 12:08 PM)
I'm a foreign graduate as well from UK.. But i still get paid like local graduate... It's all depends on experiences and ur skills...
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Yes, local or oversea not important. It is skill and exp count first. biggrin.gif
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post May 15 2008, 08:55 PM

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guys, thanks for clarifying things.

I was brought up in a family that always talk about overseas graduates earning more and getting higher position in companies. My family somehow always praises the nextdoor sons & daughters that went to overseas for their degrees.


Now that i'll be working soon, I'm very interesting in knowing whether local graduates are as competent as overseas grads.
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QUOTE(diggnation @ May 15 2008, 08:55 PM)
guys, thanks for clarifying things.

I was brought up in a family that always talk about overseas graduates earning more and getting higher position in companies. My family somehow always praises the nextdoor sons & daughters that went to overseas for their degrees.
Now that i'll be working soon, I'm very interesting in knowing whether local graduates are as competent as overseas grads.
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well, if those that went overseas work hard enough... they would already secure a job overseas and not come back... working overseas earning 2x-5x what those that work locally here earn...

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QUOTE(diggnation @ May 15 2008, 08:55 PM)
guys, thanks for clarifying things.

I was brought up in a family that always talk about overseas graduates earning more and getting higher position in companies. My family somehow always praises the nextdoor sons & daughters that went to overseas for their degrees.
Now that i'll be working soon, I'm very interesting in knowing whether local graduates are as competent as overseas grads.
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Family pressure is always hard to solve....

Dont always compare to others. Follow your interest, enhance and develop your skills during working.
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if you are the boss, who will you hire:

candidate A: oversea graduate with second lower class or lower

candidate B: local graduate with first class

it all depends on the skills and attitude....degree cert is just another paper...

This post has been edited by MiLKTea: May 18 2008, 07:47 PM
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QUOTE(MiLKTea @ May 18 2008, 07:46 PM)
if you are the boss, who will you hire:

candidate A: oversea graduate with second lower class or lower

candidate B: local graduate with first class

it all depends on the skills and attitude....degree cert is just another paper...
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This is another scenario:

Candidate A: overseas grad with 2nd upper class
Candidate B: local grad with 2nd upper class too

Both are freshies. Which one do you think the company will employ?

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The one with value for $.
The interview discussion will be the deciding factor.

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post May 18 2008, 08:16 PM

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I would employ whoever speaks better, more mature and has higher EQ.

But generally that means foreign degree holders who actually went overseas for a few years.
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post May 18 2008, 08:39 PM

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A oversea student may not have a superior advantage over the local grads. This is true when the oversea student stick only to themselves or ppl from the same country. If you look at a lot of chinese students from china, they tend to group with fellow students who are from china, and this i can say is the same for most tarcian who came over to the uk for the 3mth degree program,

bird of a feather flocks together.... that's a common thing,

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no matter where u grad or what college or uni u grad, the work attitude and character is more important than the degree.

i m living with a chinese from china who has been in the uk for 4 yrs , done his degree n masters, still is rubbish at work, even though from top uni.... london imperial college..... he also does not speak and understand english at that level of a form3 SK sudent is msia....



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