Besides I had used ABit, ECS and PC Chips also...
Personally never used ASUS but some of my friends did...
Gigabyte: Asus Lied & Fooled Customers
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GigaByte since Pentium-II days till now... not a single board failed me, great stability.
Besides I had used ABit, ECS and PC Chips also... Personally never used ASUS but some of my friends did... |
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QUOTE(hagiwara @ May 16 2008, 06:45 AM) rilex bro .. we need to face the fact .. i'm also quite shocked with this news .. I think someone here did show that.. Check this out.. QUOTE(merzchan @ May 15 2008, 09:21 AM) 1 more interesting article regarding gigabyte des vs asus epu: http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/1348/gig...sus_epu_tested/  QUOTE(ktek @ May 16 2008, 11:16 AM) solid caps is not god-like, they do burst too Solid caps are not electrolytic and they are not supposed to explode. They use conductive polymer or semiconductor type. On the subject of fake caps, its easy to tell.. don't look at the color but the brand. Example "Rulycon" (the real one is "Rubycon"). One of the brands commonly faked is Nichicon, which is hard to tell unless you are familiar with Nichicon's markings and colors.  i even saw a before few claimed "solid caps" are just electrolytic capacitor with a metal housing. a normal PC user won't tell a fake japs make capacitor. they write japanese word on it?  I saw somewhere that even Apple uses these at one time, here  QUOTE(ktek @ May 16 2008, 11:16 AM) another thing i don't feel right is "low Vcore = low power consumption" Well given the same load (formula V^2/R), lower Vcore definitely reduces the wattage but stability when may be affected especially those overclocked.  This post has been edited by lex: May 16 2008, 12:26 PM |
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QUOTE(ktek @ May 16 2008, 12:26 PM) why must always bring in the topic of overclock? Well, in the old days prices of processors are quite high, so overclocking is one way of getting most performance out of the money spent. Shy to tell you, in one of my old machines, I had a Celeron (Coppermine) overclocked from 566MHz to 850MHz easily.. that's 50% overclock! Performance faster than P3 550MHz.. everybody who own a PC with these overrated solid caps MUZ OVERCL0CK ??!! shy to tell, but the P3 run from 500MHz pushed to 550MHz, that's 10% of overcl0ck  QUOTE(ktek @ May 16 2008, 12:26 PM) in my thought, capacitors... it's just part of components in a main board. The thing is capacitors more than often affect stability of the mainboard. Many tech guys knows this.. which is why some companies like GigaByte emphasize about capacitors in their marketing. why nobody talk about the coils? diodes? you can't run your PC without them too.  QUOTE(ktek @ May 16 2008, 12:26 PM) not all normal PC users know about Rubycon and Nichicon, it's hard to tell. Rubycon clones are easy to tell (see attached images), also added another "clone" name.. . Nichicon fakes are a bit harder to differentiate...  Attached thumbnail(s) 
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May 17 2008, 02:58 AM
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QUOTE(myke @ May 16 2008, 10:12 PM) seems like asus EPU is winning over gaygaybyte DES Oh really? I think you missed this part....  http://www.tweaktown.com/news/9459/epu_vs_...ipei/index.html QUOTE Surprised as to why this may be the case as a result of our own testing in our labs, we asked ASUS how they managed to beat Gigabyte and the answer wasn’t as technical as I thought it might be. We are assuming through a fast flow of changes to EPU by the engineers at ASUS, EPU is able to turn off hard drives connected to the motherboard (except the master C drive) after a period of idle time, around 15 minutes we were told – hence why three hard drives were connected to the system for the demo and for the eyes of the attending media. Gigabyte DES in its current state and as far as we know, doesn’t do the same. The chap from ASUS even mentioned that when you first turn on the systems, idle power consumption would be about the same. We wanted to reboot the systems or unplug the two extra hard drives from the DES based system and see what would happen, but that might have not gone down too well, during their presentation. This post has been edited by lex: May 17 2008, 03:05 AM |
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QUOTE(tech3910 @ May 17 2008, 11:09 AM) hm....... I second that... looks like a very weak respond, doesn't clarify anything wad so ever..........instead, it back fire.................. seams dat ASUS is in deeper shit after their respond.....  After TweakTown... THG said they will conduct its own independent comparison of the ASUS P5K series and the Gigabyte EP35-DS3L. That would be interesting... |
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May 23 2008, 12:18 AM
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QUOTE(jinaun @ May 22 2008, 09:30 PM) unless some1 can furnish me with more of high quality jap caps.. Other high quality Japan capacitors are Rubycon, Nichicon, Sanyo (OS-CON) and Panasonic. For more information in English, try the following sites.... Badcaps.net CapsMod Forum Capacitor Lab Bad Capacitor Information on Lowyat.net This post has been edited by lex: May 23 2008, 12:27 AM |
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QUOTE(JinXXX @ May 23 2008, 12:40 AM) so with this.. it means gigabyte was right about asus con-jobbing us all ? and using ahbeng's capacitor ? It doesn't imply that.. Its just information regarding bad capacitor plague and issues. All brands (some time ago) have some motherboards with bad caps, GigaByte is no exception. The most famous one that got attention was the ABit class action lawsuit. MSI also got hit with lawsuits... From that day on, top manufacturers started using back Japanese capacitors.. However beware that most budget board makers are not following their footsteps. @cstkl1, speak Engrish pleaze... This post has been edited by lex: May 23 2008, 01:21 AM |
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May 26 2008, 03:07 PM
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Why keep mentioning about unreleased "EPU6". Its gonna be about the current generations ones, the current EPU vs DES, which GigaByte pointed out..
Both TechReport and Tweaktown shows ASUS boards consume more power than GigaByte (and ABit). Lemme see... 2 different reviews can't be wrong, right? This post has been edited by lex: May 26 2008, 03:11 PM |
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