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TStoccatina
post May 13 2008, 10:50 PM, updated 18y ago

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I am going to buy my 1st Guitar! Recommend me an affordable one please? laugh.gif Acoustic? Yamaha? drool.gif
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post May 13 2008, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(toccatina @ May 13 2008, 10:50 PM)
I am going to buy my 1st Guitar! Recommend me an affordable one please?  laugh.gif Acoustic? Yamaha?  drool.gif
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Depends on what you wanna play.


If wanna play acoustic songs then get an acoustic.

If wanna play electric guitar songs then get an electric.

You can start with either one.

I'll rather get an electric and play clean when I wanna play acoustic style songs or use a acoustic simulator/model in the amp or stompboxes.

Besides, chords are easier on the fingers on electric. :-P

Barre chords are a total Biatch to execute on an acoustic, never gotten a clean one ever.


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post May 13 2008, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(bman @ May 13 2008, 10:53 PM)
Depends on what you wanna play.
If wanna play acoustic songs then get an acoustic.

If wanna play electric guitar songs then get an electric.

You can start with either one.

I'll rather get an electric and play clean when I wanna play acoustic style songs or use a acoustic simulator/model in the amp or stompboxes.

Besides, chords are easier on the fingers on electric. :-P

Barre chords are a total Biatch to execute on an acoustic, never gotten a clean one ever.
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sweat.gif I don't understand sweat.gif I wanna attend lessons too. So which is better? For REAL beginner.
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post May 13 2008, 10:59 PM

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But if you start off with an acoustic, playing on the electric will be way easier later on.

In my transition from acoustic -> electric, my fingers almost shouted " thank you " to me haha.

Tho my electric weren't all that great, but you can play somehow easier?

Thats what I experienced. smile.gif
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post May 13 2008, 11:01 PM

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classical wooden 50 bucks guitar for beginners...use it to gauge your passion first...some people may quit halfway...you may never know...from then on...get a guitar that suits your need and playing style...
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post May 13 2008, 11:02 PM

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QUOTE(headhunter7 @ May 13 2008, 10:59 PM)
But if you start off with an acoustic, playing on the electric will be way easier later on.

In my transition from acoustic -> electric, my fingers almost shouted " thank you " to me haha.

Tho my electric weren't all that great, but you can play somehow easier?

Thats what I experienced. smile.gif
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Not in my case, I learn electric but at the same time I torture my fingers on the same scale on a cheap kapok.

You can do the thing simultaneously.

Do the scale on the 80 ringgit kapok for 15 minutes, then do it again on the electric, same effect, no need to waste time on the acoustic all the way.

The other reason is if the person who got interested in guitar wanted to play electric songs and you dump him/her an acoustic, he/she will get bored very fast especially if the pain is a big deterrence and demotivator.

Happens to all the piano players I know who're trying to learn guitar and they all started with acoustic and then gave up.

Acoustic guitar can kill guitar interest, I say start with what you're comfortable with, there's no right or wrong.


Added on May 13, 2008, 11:06 pm
QUOTE(cloud0188 @ May 13 2008, 11:01 PM)
classical wooden 50 bucks guitar for beginners...use it to gauge your passion first...some people may quit halfway...you may never know...from then on...get a guitar that suits your need and playing style...
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Very likely to turn off the beginner if the gear is too crappy or not the type of music he/she wants.


Must ask first, what sort of guitar/songs?


Classical guitar ? Finger picking?
Flamenco ?
Acoustic strumming ?
Electric guitar ?


Pick the wrong one and you will lose interest fast. Many gave up not necessarily because they lack passion, it's just they're taught stuff they have totally no interest in.

It's like attending a college and they teach irrelevant rubbish subjects because you have no choice to pick your modules/majors.

Same thing here.


Say I wanna learn to play like paul gilbert and you force me to play songs that have no were near paul gilbert's style, of course lose interest fast lah.

I think most importantly the learner must know what he/she wants.

I'd say starting out with an acoustic when you are really only interested in electric will kill your interest/passion faster.


This post has been edited by bman: May 13 2008, 11:06 PM
TStoccatina
post May 13 2008, 11:09 PM

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so where can I get a RM50 / RM80 kapoks? laugh.gif Will it sound bad? @_@
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post May 13 2008, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(toccatina @ May 13 2008, 11:09 PM)
so where can I get a RM50 / RM80 kapoks?  laugh.gif Will it sound bad? @_@
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Bookstore or those kedai alatulis run by ahpek/ahma should have kapok for sale.

Don't buy from guitar stores, they will CHOP CHOP you!
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post May 13 2008, 11:17 PM

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any kedai alat tulis run by ahpek/ahma in PJ? @_@ I just moved here!
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post May 13 2008, 11:18 PM

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IMHO, dun get a kapok.. there is no need to go through suffering just to deter u from playing further..

Get something decent to ease your entry into a wonderful world of music biggrin.gif

Several easy to play guitar would be yamaha, samick, takamine etc.. all depends on your budget..


Added on May 13, 2008, 11:20 pmI never believe in such things as torture your fingers to play better.. the common misconception would be using more than the required str to play the guitar..

calluses will form as u play more.. most important thing is not to hurt yourself in the process of practicing...

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post May 13 2008, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(Mr. Z @ May 13 2008, 11:18 PM)
IMHO, dun get a kapok.. there is no need to go through suffering just to deter u from playing further..

Get something decent to ease your entry into a wonderful world of music biggrin.gif

Several easy to play guitar would be yamaha, samick, takamine etc.. all depends on your budget..
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so kapok or branded????


what is IMHO?
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post May 13 2008, 11:22 PM

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IMHO = in my humble oppinion

if you can afford it, get something branded... even if u CAN'T afford it, you can get something on the entry lvel from yamaha.
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post May 13 2008, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(Mr. Z @ May 13 2008, 11:22 PM)
IMHO = in my humble oppinion

if you can afford it, get something branded... even if u CAN'T afford it, you can get something on the entry lvel from yamaha.
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great! i go visit yamaha and the kapok one first.
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post May 13 2008, 11:46 PM

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bman , my reason for starting with acoustic is because I started off with acoustic guitar lessons wink.gif

Up till theres this one time I wanted to play electric, my dad got me one
and so when I played electric it felt heaven.haha

Though right now a nice classical guitar would really make me happy,
Need to write some tunes up biggrin.gif.
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post May 14 2008, 12:03 AM

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QUOTE(toccatina @ May 13 2008, 11:17 PM)
any kedai alat tulis run by ahpek/ahma in PJ? @_@ I just moved here!
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post May 14 2008, 03:03 AM

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most important is wut's ur budget?

if u could afford more than a kapok, no harm getting an entry level yamaha which is sounded way betta than kapok...

basically, if u r just getting started, u can try with kapok 1st...
just that if u could afford for a yamaha... can go for it oso...

for those takamine and taylor, i think it's a bit over for a person who just wanted to start...

but once again, if u could afford a takamine or taylor, can go for it too...

i saw some taylor's in bentley... price range 11k-15k... sound dammmmnnnnnnnn niceee!! if can afford, get those... sure wont regret... lolx...
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post May 14 2008, 07:08 AM

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guitar nice finger not nice= sound not nice de
guitar kapok=finger nice=sound nice
whats the point getting good guitar if u cant play that well
build ur determination 1st and next ur skill then u will be a man!
like IF poem LOL
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post May 14 2008, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(wreckens15 @ May 14 2008, 07:08 AM)
guitar nice finger not nice= sound not nice de
guitar kapok=finger nice=sound nice
whats the point getting good guitar if u cant play that well
build ur determination 1st and next ur skill then u will be a man!
like IF poem LOL
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wrong guitar = everything also not nice.

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post May 14 2008, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(wreckens15 @ May 14 2008, 07:08 AM)
guitar nice finger not nice= sound not nice de
guitar kapok=finger nice=sound nice
whats the point getting good guitar if u cant play that well
build ur determination 1st and next ur skill then u will be a man!
like IF poem LOL
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seconded. a crappy guitar will still sounds good on the hands of a good player. btw, a kapok will sound really nice with a good set of nylon strings. i use to string my kapok with nylons and play it like an acoustic. sounds really nice.
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post May 14 2008, 10:19 AM

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LOL..we make our fingers sound like little children.We dont play a shred fast enough we look at them and go "You want me to play the acoustic?.....don't make me!...you better bloody behave!now lets try again before daddy gets upset okay?".

But yes after playing on the acoustic the electric was such a breeze.
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post May 14 2008, 05:50 PM

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buy a branded guitar like yamaha. kapok so hard to press .....
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post May 14 2008, 06:24 PM

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for a beginner, get a rm200-300 guitar should be ok.
i recommend yamaha acoustic F310 which cost about rm350.

If you are a serious student, don't ever get a kapok less than rm100.
It's very hard to press, especially barre chord. And the sound is real bad.

Slowly develop your interest, play for 3 years or more, then upgrade to a better guitar. if u feel like want to play electric, buy a electric guitar.
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First ask yourself if you really are passionate about learning the guitar and if you could really stick with playing it for a very long time. I see some fellas buy expensive axes but leave them in the closet collecting dust after a few months, just because they 'lost interest' or have 'no time to play'.

So if you just want a guitar to satisfy a temporary desire, then you should get the cheap ones (<RM200). But if you are the one who is determined to take your playing to the next level, then invest on something decent and branded (<RM800) that will last you a lifetime if you play it with passion.

And for the question on getting an acoustic or an electric, this just depends on the style you want to play. Both have their unique tonal qualities and they are both equally easy to play if you have the right instrument setup and action. smile.gif
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QUOTE(noxxing @ May 14 2008, 10:19 AM)
LOL..we make our fingers sound like little children.We dont play a shred fast enough we look at them and go "You want me to play the acoustic?.....don't make me!...you better bloody behave!now lets try again before daddy gets upset okay?".

But yes after playing on the acoustic the electric was such a breeze.
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you had me laughing with this.

back on topic, it all depends on your passion to learn, and the type of music you intend to "specialize" in, so to say.

I'd prefer buying a semi-decent electric second hand from this place (hey, i got mine here) and just playing clean, neck pickup, adjusting the tone knob when you want an "acoustic" sound, so to speak. That way, when you want to transition to playing more electric-oriented music (assuming you want to), you wouldn't have to break the bank again to buy more stuff.
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post May 14 2008, 11:58 PM

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ibanez or santa cruz also good for beginner. they cost around below rm200. i bought santa cruz acoustic for for rm180 only.
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post May 15 2008, 02:55 PM

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off topic santa cruz 180 nice a?
300 santa cruz can get good tone?
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post May 16 2008, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(wreckens15 @ May 15 2008, 02:55 PM)
off topic santa cruz 180 nice a?
300 santa cruz can get good tone?
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Santa cruz used for entry level also, just check for the finishing on the fretboard.I am using a guitar called "jervis" frm china Rm110 nie i am new to guitars bout 1.5 months, i had to change the dtrings to d'addario's because those china strings sux sweat.gif
Yamaha F310 should be a good bet since your budget is already RM300...a F310 should be Rm350 (+)(-)

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