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post May 9 2008, 10:22 PM, updated 18y ago

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For me, I'll be more than happy if it matches The Last Crusade. Yes, Crusade is easily the weakest of the three movies so far but its still miles ahead of most stuff produced today. Its probably too much to hope for the mindblowing perfection of Raiders or the offbeat genius of Temple of Doom. Even if it does fall a tad short of Crusade, I'll probably be satisfied. How about you guys?
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post May 9 2008, 10:42 PM

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I'd say the "hope" that it'll beat Raiders and TOD is still reachable.
Hollywood technologies had been better these past few years, that's a good point.
Add that with a good adventure storylines and an awesome music score.
And you get the best of the best thumbup.gif

Some might argue "meh, nothing much" - expect this from the young Matrix generation. However, given it going good, the tides may turn to the likes of good receptions of comeback movies such as Rambo and Rocky.

Maestro! THE MUSIC!

"tet-tenet-teeet.... tet-tenet.... TET-TENET-TEEEET... TET-TENET-TET-TET!" notworthy.gif
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post May 9 2008, 10:43 PM

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personally, i think its kinda way too late for another indy movie now. Harrison ford is really not a good actor as he used to be. my prediction is that this movie will bomb, regardless how well the new guy is in this movie as it cannot live up to everyone's expectations
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up par with the indy series.
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post May 9 2008, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(firedauz @ May 9 2008, 10:42 PM)
I'd say the "hope" that it'll beat Raiders and TOD is still reachable.
Hollywood technologies had been better these past few years, that's a good point.
Add that with a good adventure storylines and an awesome music score.
And you get the best of the best thumbup.gif
I do not think that special effects are what make the Indy movies so special. They always had a rough somewhat lo-fi look. Music wise, JW is in no way the same composer as he was in the 80s (though I won't say necessarily for worse or better). Judging frm the Amazon samples, he does revisit some of his 80s action sounds (the woodwinds are back for one) while also having a lot of his frenzied modern atonal stuff. Whether he'll produce big melodic throughlines based action sequences instead of post Lost World motivic fragments is something that remains to be seen. No..Raiders is 99% unassailable, ToD is a bizzare quirk which KOTCS is obviously not. LC remains the target for me. smile.gif
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post May 9 2008, 11:14 PM

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heh for me the last crusade is the best indiana series.
sean connery and harrison ford fits together so well in that movie.

for me the latest indiana jones movie got to have the classic indiana music (when he "tarzaning using his whip") u got to have the TENG TENG TENG music and it better not be remake the music into some kind of twisted version funky music.
too much cg is also a big no-no. i want realistic stunts like the previous movies.
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post May 9 2008, 11:23 PM

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Yup, as long as it matches the weakest of the trilogy (which I think is The Last Crusade, entertaining though, jz ain't superior than the 1st 2) will suffice. I'm not expecting much though, never do when it comes to sumer movies.
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post May 9 2008, 11:58 PM

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the music.. the the theeee theeee the the the
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and the rope swing..

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post May 10 2008, 12:18 AM

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As always, the old school Indiana Jones' adventure and action sequences must be good. The script, it is better to have the qualities of the script of Raiders of the Lost Ark and The Last Crusade, I mean the script of Indy IV should be less humor than The Last Crusade, and less serious than Raiders, and not as dark as The Temple of Doom.

After all, can't wait for May 22. I am going to watch a Indiana Jones film in cinema, as I am only about six months old when The Last Crusade was released, and appreciate the classic Indiana Jones character in theatre.
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post May 10 2008, 12:22 AM

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Still got his kick-ass moves can dy
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post May 10 2008, 04:15 AM

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I just hope it's enjoyable like the National Treasure series coz I love it and it's almost the same genre as Indy only that it's got techy gadget.

Witty dialog, the puzzles, the somewhat related to real events and yeah the bad guys that at first was allies but then screws you biggrin.gif
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post May 10 2008, 08:51 AM

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QUOTE(PhoenixByte @ May 10 2008, 04:15 AM)
I just hope it's enjoyable like the National Treasure series coz I love it and it's almost the same genre as Indy only that it's got techy gadget.

Witty dialog, the puzzles, the somewhat related to real events and yeah the bad guys that at first was allies but then screws you biggrin.gif
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National Treasure is no Indy my friend. It's not almost the same, it's a rip-off with Cage trying to be a Ford wannabe and all the ridiculous "twists/plots" coupled together. Forget about National Treasure and go back to the authenticity of the Indy adventure genre wink.gif
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post May 10 2008, 09:23 AM

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it could be purely for introducing his son.
a spin off in the future!
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post May 10 2008, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(Makakeke @ May 10 2008, 08:51 AM)
National Treasure is no Indy my friend. It's not almost the same, it's a rip-off with Cage trying to be a Ford wannabe and all the ridiculous "twists/plots" coupled together. Forget about National Treasure and go back to the authenticity of the Indy adventure genre wink.gif
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well i certainly don't care about that coz I enjoyed it nonetheless happy.gif and I also like Indy when I was a boy back in the 80s...another man's meat is another man's poison.

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post May 10 2008, 10:42 AM

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As long as its fun it would be enough for me. Indiana Jones has always been about the fun, and for my money Raiders and Last Crusade are the best. ToD was great but not nearly as fun as the other two.


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post May 10 2008, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(QuickFire @ May 10 2008, 10:42 AM)
As long as its fun it would be enough for me. Indiana Jones has always been about the fun, and for my money Raiders and Last Crusade are the best. ToD was great but not nearly as fun as the other two.
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Thank God someone agrees that ToD wasn't as good as Crusade tongue.gif
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post May 10 2008, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(QuickFire @ May 10 2008, 10:42 AM)
As long as its fun it would be enough for me. Indiana Jones has always been about the fun, and for my money Raiders and Last Crusade are the best. ToD was great but not nearly as fun as the other two.
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Raiders is perfct. ToD was awesome in its own offbeat and mean way. LC is very very likable, but in the end (especially if you've watched the movies a gazillion times) is just too dependent on cute humor, which makes Indy feel less hard boiled. Ironically, LC feels like Roger Moore to the Connery of Raiders (pun intended). ToD is amazing in the way they took this massive pop cultural phenomenon and did something way out of this world with it, akin to giving the middle finger to mainstreamness. Brilliant in its own way.

QUOTE(PhoenixByte @ May 10 2008, 04:15 AM)
I just hope it's enjoyable like the National Treasure series coz I love it and it's almost the same genre as Indy only that it's got techy gadget.

Witty dialog, the puzzles, the somewhat related to real events and yeah the bad guys that at first was allies but then screws you biggrin.gif
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National Treasure is nothing but a revolting Indy knockoff with an eye on milking the Da Vinci Code hype. The only Indy knockoff worth its salt insofar is the The Mummy.

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post May 10 2008, 11:40 AM

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i'm waiting for this sequel since Spielberg announce it 8 years ago ..

whatever it is , Indy sequel is legendary.

this is my 1st ever Indy movie I will watch at theathre
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post May 10 2008, 01:44 PM

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Cant even recall all the Indi movies..i think i muz have jumbled up everythin as 1.. biggrin.gif

Nevertheless Im still anticipating the 4th installation of the Indi franchise..I hope it wont be a big flop..They better make a great adventure out of it..

As much as l love adventure flick, National Treasure 2 was a big let down..nothing much to shout about..The 1st one was much better and i somehow enjoyed it alot..
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i will be satisfied no matter what...gonna be my first time seeing Indi Jones on big screen...last time see Star Wars Ep 3 on big screen first time...I was like WOW...i feel the force that time

and one more...hope the movie dont be so literative, just pure goodness action would be enuf for me...
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QUOTE(BurgaFlippinMan @ May 10 2008, 11:38 AM)
Raiders is perfct. ToD was awesome in its own offbeat and mean way. LC is very very likable, but in the end (especially if you've watched the movies a gazillion times) is just too dependent on cute humor, which makes Indy feel less hard boiled. Ironically, LC feels like Roger Moore to the Connery of Raiders (pun intended). ToD is amazing in the way they took this massive pop cultural phenomenon and did something way out of this world with it, akin to giving the middle finger to mainstreamness. Brilliant in its own way.
National Treasure is nothing but a revolting Indy knockoff with an eye on milking the Da Vinci Code hype. The only Indy knockoff worth its salt insofar is the The Mummy.
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It's hard to not love The Last Crusade when you get to see Indiana getting taught the lessons of his life by his nerdy dad! Indiana plus Henry Jones combo = total awesomeness. Yes, Henry Jones makes his son seem less hard-boiled, but that's the charm of it all! I really like ToD, but it tries to be dark, yet still wants to please the mainstream crowd and throws in a screaming woman and an annoying chinese kid. It still works, but the compromise it takes by trying to balance the dark and the Indy humour just makes the movie slightly less fun than its predecessor and successor.
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QUOTE(BurgaFlippinMan @ May 10 2008, 11:38 AM)
National Treasure is nothing but a revolting Indy knockoff with an eye on milking the Da Vinci Code hype. The only Indy knockoff worth its salt insofar is the The Mummy.
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Ya, I agree it's true but for me Da Vinci Code (the movie) is boring sweat.gif

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QUOTE(QuickFire @ May 10 2008, 05:38 PM)
It's hard to not love The Last Crusade when you get to see Indiana getting taught the lessons of his life by his nerdy dad! Indiana plus Henry Jones combo = total awesomeness. Yes, Henry Jones makes his son seem less hard-boiled, but that's the charm of it all! I really like ToD, but it tries to be dark, yet still wants to please the mainstream crowd and throws in a screaming woman and an annoying chinese kid. It still works, but the compromise it takes by trying to balance the dark and the Indy humour just makes the movie slightly less fun than its predecessor and successor.
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Ford and Connery have great chemistry, but the humor is a double edged sword. Its definitely funny, hilarious at times but it oh so nearly turns one of the greatest heroes of cinema into a parody of himself, hence the Roger Moore comparison. The tone was swung too far into the opposite direction to atone for Temple of Doom's perceived 'sins'. Temple of Doom doesnt try to be dark. It IS dark. Its pure anti mainstream Lucas.

QUOTE(PhoenixByte @ May 10 2008, 06:34 PM)
Ya, I agree it's true but for me Da Vinci Code (the movie) is boring  sweat.gif
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That was a terrible movie too.

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QUOTE(QuickFire @ May 10 2008, 05:38 PM)
It's hard to not love The Last Crusade when you get to see Indiana getting taught the lessons of his life by his nerdy dad! Indiana plus Henry Jones combo = total awesomeness. Yes, Henry Jones makes his son seem less hard-boiled, but that's the charm of it all! I really like ToD, but it tries to be dark, yet still wants to please the mainstream crowd and throws in a screaming woman and an annoying chinese kid. It still works, but the compromise it takes by trying to balance the dark and the Indy humour just makes the movie slightly less fun than its predecessor and successor.
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hey, i like him...ShortRound thumbup.gif rclxm9.gif like it when he speaks in Cantonese (especially the gambling scene with Indy) tongue.gif

for me, Indy 4 has to be on-par with one of the previous flicks. looking forward to more Indy's gags. smile.gif

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Wonder what happen to Short Round... he is kinda in HK films... last one in 2002...

What should Indy IV have ? Well, with CG effects and Steven Spielberg in the 21st century, one can expect greatness, on par 'even surpassing' the excitement of Raiders of the Lost Ark...




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post May 14 2008, 12:42 AM

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I know what'll be better than LC, Indy and Lara Croft enough said. So far I like LC the most but my guess is with shia, it'll probably be as fun and humorous as LC.
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QUOTE(kevler @ May 10 2008, 11:40 AM)
i'm waiting for this sequel since Spielberg announce it 8 years ago ..

whatever it is , Indy sequel is legendary.

this is my 1st ever Indy movie I will watch at theathre
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It was first officially announced in 1993. I remember reading about it in The Star newspaper. The news was also about the Star Wars prequel.

This will be my first time in theatre too, didn't have the chance to see "Last Crusade", even though I was old enough at that time (12 years old).

In response to the thread, I just hope it will be just like all other Indy movies. All indications right now really shows that it will be old school. "Raiders" is my favorite movie of all time (not sure how many times have I said that already tongue.gif ), so I hope "Skull" will be my second favorite!

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post May 14 2008, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(defaultname365 @ May 14 2008, 12:02 AM)
What should Indy IV have ? Well, with CG effects and Steven Spielberg in the 21st century,
Isnt the minimal use of CG one of the main draws about Indy IV?
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NasiLemakMan and BurgaFlippinMan... apart from the names, even their avatars...

btw shouldn't there be special screenings by now?
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post May 14 2008, 09:56 AM

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no... i just want TDK!
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QUOTE(BurgaFlippinMan @ May 14 2008, 09:10 AM)
Isnt the minimal use of CG one of the main draws about Indy IV?
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who are you to judge if that makes him happy n satisfied? rolleyes.gif
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post May 14 2008, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(QuickFire @ May 14 2008, 09:54 AM)
NasiLemakMan and BurgaFlippinMan... apart from the names, even their avatars...
I am the ORIGINAL!!!! Plus I have a verb in front of the chow! And my avatar has a machete which will smite down his 5 kadam long stick!!!

QUOTE(QuickFire @ May 14 2008, 09:54 AM)
btw shouldn't there be special screenings by now?
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There was about two for some of the cast and crew, Cannes.....thats it.

QUOTE(PhoenixByte @ May 14 2008, 10:23 AM)
who are you to judge if that makes him happy n satisfied?  rolleyes.gif
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I'm merely stating a well known fact constantly mentioned by the filmmakers. If its excessive CG he's looking for, he probably won't find it in Indy.

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its meant to have old-skool action/stunts and minimal CGI in Indy films.

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post May 14 2008, 11:06 AM

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If the cgi is done discreetly like die hard 4 it's still ok what? At least for me la happy.gif


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QUOTE(PhoenixByte @ May 14 2008, 11:06 AM)
If the cgi is done discreetly like die hard 4 it's still ok what? At least for me la happy.gif
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lol! die hard 4 was abit... bull-shitty-ish...
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well it's the bullshittyness that makes it die hard happy.gif
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post May 14 2008, 04:06 PM

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live free or die hard wasnt.....hard enough...
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QUOTE(BurgaFlippinMan @ May 14 2008, 04:06 PM)
live free or die hard wasnt.....hard enough...
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also, McClane can't even utter the immortal "yipeekaiye" line


I was too young to watch Raiders in 1981, but for Temple of Doom and Last Crusade, my dad brought us whole family to the big, stand-alone cinema to watch.
Raiders is untouchable, the best in the series, and i don't think Indy4 will even come close in terms of entertainment.
But I actually prefer Last Crusade over TOD.
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i just hope it isn't another indy rides again, re-hashing the same...waitaminute wasn't indiana jones Lucas/Spielberg "remaking" ok inspired by saturday matinee serials? i can go for a few laughs, 3 surprises and at least 6 near-death scenes...we all know nothing permanently bad can happen to indy right? and over 2 hrs running time.
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Indy : How dare he? *Bash*

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i hope this new indy iv will have a different special effects . from the trailer got the close up view the car chase i persume . and i see some robots in the trailer or is it a war fighter plane hmm.gif . anyway hope to see a big round rock smashing shia or somethin laugh.gif
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post May 18 2008, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(SowYau @ May 17 2008, 02:46 PM)
also, McClane can't even utter the immortal "yipeekaiye" line
He did in the unrated DVD I think...

QUOTE(SowYau @ May 17 2008, 02:46 PM)
But I actually prefer Last Crusade over TOD.
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My problem is that Last Crusade is first and foremost, a comedy. Its very lovable, but you can't take it seriously as an Indy film. An Indy film should be an action adventure, not a comedy action adventure (note I'm not even calling it action adventure comedy). Even Spielberg himself has confessed that LC was to 'atone' for ToD's perceived wrongs. Sadly that time they went too far in the opposite direction and ended up with a rehash of Raiders unlike ToD, which was its own individual. Yes, the other two had hilarious moments too, but the funny bits do not drive the film like it does in LC. In LC, you get the feeling that there is a gag or joke coming every 30 seconds or so. I think that LC is somewhat analogous to Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home, very likable but nowhere near the greatness of their respective series.

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