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TSharis
post May 9 2008, 10:51 AM, updated 18y ago

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For those who are interested to know more about Xbox 360 future hardware. Feel free to visit bellow links and salivate!

Xbox-Scene Linkage & Discussion

X-bit Lab Artilce

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According to the X-bit Labs article, Jasper is both Xenos (GPU) and Xenon (CPU) in 65nm process. Smaller and more power efficient that is. Translate to less heat and noise. We have heard all this same thing in Falcon. But keep in mind that in Falcon, only the CPU is 65nm.

Valhalla is next. Which is more interesting since that is when the GPU and CPU is combined in one chip. That will even make the whole thing much much smaller, more power efficient and reduce transfer bottleneck between GPU & CPU.

As we are coming to Xbox 360 3rd year anniversary. And realizing that this time around the product life cycle might be only for 4 years. Some people in Xbox-Scene discussion already theorize that Valhalla is for miniaturized version of Xbox 360.

My own thought about this is that suddenly MS strategy with 3 core processor become clear. That is, to make way for easier combining the GPU and CPU in one chip. So now we have a foursome. 3 Core CPU + 1 GPU. AMD is also going tp do this kind of thing in the near future (if not already doing it !).

Anyway have phun and be safe!



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post May 10 2008, 01:58 PM

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good info...great !
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post May 11 2008, 03:30 AM

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Jasper mobo sku is coming this august...but valhalla....don't confirm yet...they said Valhalla model is a miniature size of Xbox 360 unit just like PS2 slim model...
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post May 11 2008, 04:16 AM

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Jasper comes finally, lets see if the RROD is put to rest finally.
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post May 11 2008, 09:06 AM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ May 11 2008, 04:16 AM)
Jasper comes finally, lets see if the RROD is put to rest finally.
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yeap hope so...we will see bout it though
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post May 11 2008, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(haris @ May 9 2008, 10:51 AM)
As we are coming to Xbox 360 3rd year anniversary. And realizing that this time around the product life cycle might be only for 4 years.
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Hmm, Xbox launched 2001, Xbox360 in 2005, so yeah 4 years biggrin.gif ... so new Xbox in 2009? biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

Seems hugely unlikely though, cos PS3/360 I think even now 2-3 years into the life cycle also still seen as "next-gen," not really "current-gen" yet. And the PS2 had a 6-year cycle (well ... even until now 8+ years into the life, still got developers putting out games for it).
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post May 11 2008, 10:58 PM

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Funny, my Xbox1 showed the same symptoms as 3ROD today.
only its 1 light rather than three laugh.gif is it normal ah?

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post May 12 2008, 01:27 AM

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QUOTE(MR.Shiney @ May 11 2008, 10:58 PM)
Funny, my Xbox1 showed the same symptoms as 3ROD today.
only its 1 light rather than three laugh.gif is it normal ah?
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If it is 1 red light then there will be an error code shown on the screen.
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post May 12 2008, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(deodorant @ May 11 2008, 10:43 PM)
Hmm, Xbox launched 2001, Xbox360 in 2005, so yeah 4 years biggrin.gif ... so new Xbox in 2009? biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

Seems hugely unlikely though, cos PS3/360 I think even now 2-3 years into the life cycle also still seen as "next-gen," not really "current-gen" yet. And the PS2 had a 6-year cycle (well ... even until now 8+ years into the life, still got developers putting out games for it).
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Conclusion

If I am the head of a company that come from PC market and my company strength is Software. Versus an opponent that is a hardware company. Very strong in consumer electronics. My strategy will be:

A. To level the playing fields. Change the console market to be as similar to as PC market. Incremental upgrade machine using commodity hardware, more emphasize on software (plus Xbox Life) instead of hardware and cheap old machine. Leveling the playing field change the game rules. As additional effect may cause opponent to missteps.

B. Software release cycle is very fast due to common platform on incrementally upgraded hardware machine. Since the software change is not much. So it really make sense to rush next gen machine. At the same time disadvantaging hardware centric company with longer product life cycle.

What I'm saying is that Sony product life cycle is long. That is Sony strategy. To counter it, might as well zerg/rush it with Xbox 1.5 and then later on Xbox 360.5.

After all what most important is the perception of next gen games. Which is actually not that next gen when compared to current PC games capability in term of raw power. The next thing that is unique to Xbox 360, at least for the moment, is Xbox Life. It doesnt matter what is the hardware as long as it can do Live.

On point A. I did mention cheap old machine.

IMHO, the current Xbox 360 will warp into mass consumer device that do Media Center functionality while still play "current generation" games and arcade games. And it will be cheap like PS2 cheap vs PS3 now.

While the Xbox 360.5 will play "next generation" game and be the hard core gaming machine to rival PS3 (for few years) and then the next generation of Sony game console.

That's how I will do it. biggrin.gif . Not necessarily how MS will do it. It depend also on Sony move and how successful PS3 is (vs how suck 360 will be in the next few years).


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This post has been edited by haris: May 13 2008, 11:08 AM
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post May 13 2008, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(-= Virgil =- @ May 12 2008, 01:27 AM)
If it is 1 red light then there will be an error code shown on the screen.
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are you sure? its XBOX1 you know. nothing you know, if it does play
it'll hang randomly just like the 360. sweat.gif
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post May 25 2008, 11:43 PM

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hahahaha xbox1 also got 1 rod die la like that microsoft has the rod bug since its very 1st console,mr shiney buy a ps3 la wana challenge u fight night soon now i power redi hehehehe
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QUOTE(S4PH @ May 25 2008, 11:43 PM)
hahahaha xbox1 also got 1 rod die la like that microsoft has the rod bug since its very 1st console,mr shiney buy a ps3 la wana challenge u fight night soon now i power redi hehehehe
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。。。3RROD is not bug but hardware error....root cause is bad heat related strain & tolerance design.....
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post May 27 2008, 05:28 PM

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3ROD will rest in peace....
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post May 27 2008, 07:20 PM

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Valhalla is good news, hopefully my repaired Xbox 360 can last long enough before this one comes out smile.gif


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post May 28 2008, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(nerd @ May 27 2008, 07:20 PM)
Valhalla is good news, hopefully my repaired Xbox 360 can last long enough before this one comes out smile.gif
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By time that comes out, new Xbox will come out?
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post May 28 2008, 09:51 AM

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How long have to wait for Valhalla.? sweat.gif Hopefully no 3Rod from it.... blush.gif
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QUOTE(wandiana @ May 28 2008, 09:51 AM)
How long have to wait for Valhalla.?  sweat.gif  Hopefully no 3Rod from it.... blush.gif
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u just wait while others enjoying the great games for the 360 rclxms.gif
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post May 28 2008, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(GamersFamilia @ May 28 2008, 11:36 AM)
u just wait while others enjoying the great games for the 360  rclxms.gif
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hav to wait for it since my X360 got 3rod laugh.gif
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post May 28 2008, 06:33 PM

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i'll wait for jasper unit to come
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just to know, is jasper set coming to Malaysia in August? or August in europe, us or etc only?

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