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TStoccatina
post May 8 2008, 06:22 PM, updated 18y ago

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Many people told me that I am too old to learn violin. Is 19 years old is too old?
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post May 8 2008, 06:29 PM

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QUOTE(toccatina @ May 8 2008, 06:22 PM)
Many people told me that I am too old to learn violin. Is 19 years old is too old?
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I started guitar after 30. What do you think ?
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post May 8 2008, 06:30 PM

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no its not too old.

however, at this age where you'll be busy with college and all, you do need to be very disciplined to put time aside to practice.
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post May 8 2008, 06:31 PM

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QUOTE(toccatina @ May 8 2008, 06:22 PM)
Many people told me that I am too old to learn violin. Is 19 years old is too old?
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er...for me...even i not keen into what piano/violin etcetc,but i do not agree with the statement...or those who told u knw ntg abt music/violin or they from profesional group?(such as musician,teach music instructments n so on)?
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post May 8 2008, 06:32 PM

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it's only you too young for believing in what those joker said.
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post May 8 2008, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(webbie @ May 8 2008, 06:31 PM)
er...for me...even i not keen into what piano/violin etcetc,but i do not agree with the statement...or those who told u knw ntg abt music/violin or they from profesional group?(such as musician,teach music instructments n so on)?
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a professional violin player told me that. she advise me go play guitar instead. But i intend to take both anyway. So am I still too OLD?
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post May 8 2008, 06:55 PM

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QUOTE(toccatina @ May 8 2008, 06:36 PM)
a professional violin player told me that. she advise me go play guitar instead. But i intend to take both anyway. So am I still too OLD?
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Yes you are too old, you should be married 3 years ago.

Just kidding.

No lah, the question you should ask is not if you're too old.

It should be if you're passionate enough and know how to set a proper timetable to accommodate the lessons ?

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post May 8 2008, 07:41 PM

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hey i started to play guitar on 19 too.
there is no such thing as 'too old to play instrument'
we play for our own pleasure right??
dont listen to negative comment like that.
just learn it with a good sifu and in correct way... then, shred on your violin in front of them! rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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post May 8 2008, 07:43 PM

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Thanks everybody! laugh.gif Feel better now.

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post May 8 2008, 09:21 PM

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hmm a pro footballer i read bout him i forgot his name liao.. he start playing at 19 years old.. turned pro at 22...

btw u 19 only... very old meh.. =,=

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post May 8 2008, 10:10 PM

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generally people learn slower as they get older. And most of them give up because of frustration and lack of progress. Hence the myth "too old to learn".
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post May 8 2008, 10:22 PM

 
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QUOTE(Bassix @ May 8 2008, 10:10 PM)
generally people learn slower as they get older. And most of them give up because of frustration and lack of progress. Hence the myth "too old to learn".
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adding to that, its never too late to learn if you have the right attitude and commitment icon_rolleyes.gif good luck !
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post May 8 2008, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(SweetTooth @ May 8 2008, 10:22 PM)
adding to that, its never too late to learn if you have the right attitude and commitment  icon_rolleyes.gif  good luck !
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post May 8 2008, 11:34 PM

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my sis friend , now 2x... he is learning violin too..
i think age is not a probl to learn a instrument.. but i think will hard to start off
like me.. 20 to start electr guitar and my fingers are not cooperating >_<"
hope more practice can overcome it..
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post May 9 2008, 12:24 AM

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i dunno how old im. lol, too lazy to count. second year of uni.

taking both violin and guitar now.

started violin last month. well.. so far love it. atleast i can well... play a simple canon tat dun involve in slur n vibrator. lol
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post May 13 2008, 07:09 PM

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with a basic knowledge with piano, does it helps violin?
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post May 13 2008, 07:18 PM

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very much helps~

piano lesson will helps a lots in learn other instrument..u will know the triad,the chord voicing,tempo and of course read music sheets..it helps in most of music theory u want to use later

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post May 13 2008, 07:22 PM

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QUOTE(gbonE @ May 13 2008, 07:18 PM)
very much helps~

piano lesson will helps a lots in learn other instrument..u will know the triad,the chord voicing,tempo and of course read music sheets..it helps in most of music theory u want to use later
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means anyhow, can learn other instruments faster than an actual beginner?
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post May 13 2008, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(toccatina @ May 13 2008, 07:22 PM)
means anyhow, can learn other instruments faster than an actual beginner?
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I don't know about you, but some of the piano players I know can't stand the guitar.

Too painful and they give up too easily.

Learning piano helps you with your foundation/music theory, but the problem is when you start learning other instruments, you start comparing and found the piano much easier and then you give up easily.

I never learned the piano and never had to compare so to me, guitaring isn't that hard but since I am just learning for fun, I have no pressure to improve/ace by a certain time/age.

The problem with some musicians is they set a pace where they MUST ace the exam, where learning no longer becomes fun, but a CHORE just because of the certificate/exam.

As for those of us who learn a musical instrument out of interest and fun/joy, ignoring exams and such, we tend to find it easier to pickup and no pressure at all.

In the end, i think those who learn out of genuine interest and not rushing to pass exams might improve and find it a joy.

Learning to play a musical instrument should be an enjoyable process.

But when you combine it with an exam to ace and get certificate by a certain period (usually not your own pace) it becomes a chore and that's why many kids give up music after they grow up.



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post May 13 2008, 08:00 PM

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age doesnt matter. because when yr old kinda have alot of things to do so its hard to practice and u have got a job to do ; you get what i mean?


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post May 13 2008, 08:06 PM

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u know, i think im in a sad position now. i dun pressure myself over the guitar and well... more toward violin. but the problem is, after like a month didnt do anything with my guitar, i find tat its weird to take it up. its like, the finger work just seems much more weird.

im wondering something, is elec violin share the same things as guitar? as in amp and effect pedal such
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post May 13 2008, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(jikolo @ May 13 2008, 08:06 PM)
u know, i think im in a sad position now. i dun pressure myself over the guitar and well... more toward violin. but the problem is, after like a month didnt do anything with my guitar, i find tat its weird to take it up. its like, the finger work just seems much more weird.

im wondering something, is elec violin share the same things as guitar? as in amp and effect pedal such
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You only have yourself to blame for being greedy and not able to plan properly.


Why lah you go learn both violin and guitar at the same time ?


You are messing with your finger and brain muscle development like that.

Learn one at a time lah.

It's not difficult to squeeze 1 hour a day for practice.

Don't waste time yumchar with friends.

During weekends lagi manyak time, spend 6 hours a day on either Sat or Sunday.

Planning, planning, planning!

Discipline!


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post May 14 2008, 12:54 AM

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QUOTE(bman @ May 13 2008, 10:58 PM)
You only have yourself to blame for being greedy and not able to plan properly.
Why lah you go learn both violin and guitar at the same time ?
You are messing with your finger and brain muscle development like that.

Learn one at a time lah.

It's not difficult to squeeze 1 hour a day for practice.

Don't waste time yumchar with friends.

During weekends lagi manyak time, spend 6 hours a day on either Sat or Sunday.

Planning, planning, planning!

Discipline!
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so I shouldn't start both of them at the same time?

how many levels/grades are there in guitar?
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post May 14 2008, 01:31 AM

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QUOTE(toccatina @ May 14 2008, 12:54 AM)
so I shouldn't start both of them at the same time?

how many levels/grades are there in guitar?
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Preferably not because I believe the muscles are flexed/trained differently but there's no law that says you can't.

What I recommend is if you wanna learn both, do it at the same time, or alternate.. this way the muscles can accomodate and not neglect the other.

Jikolo's way, as you've seen, is to play violin 1 month, and then ignoring the guitar for the whole month.. like that sure cannot improve lah.

Maybe you can alternate odd/even days.


As for levels/grades, jeeeez.z. does it matter ?!!! Just have fun!


Don't bother with the exams or anything. When you can play the song you wanted to play then you've levelled up already. *LOL*

You worry about the exam only when you wanna join some snobby orchestra or something. :-P

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post May 14 2008, 02:39 AM

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IMO, there is no such thing as 'too old to learn'...
it's all about passion...

Without passion, how young u also can't learn...
with passion, how old u also be able to learn...

It depends on how passionate r u to learn something...

just dun give up easily...
no one knows how to run before learning how to walk...

hope it helps...
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post May 14 2008, 05:02 PM

 
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post May 14 2008, 09:06 PM

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QUOTE(mingdynasty @ May 8 2008, 09:21 PM)
hmm a pro footballer i read bout him i forgot his name liao.. he start playing at 19 years old.. turned pro at 22...

btw u 19 only... very old meh.. =,=
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who??
MU punya???

toccatina: dun think u're old to learn anything....
age is not a factor for u..

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post May 15 2008, 12:32 AM

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QUOTE(SweetTooth @ May 14 2008, 05:02 PM)
"sometimes you've got to run before you walk"
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post May 15 2008, 11:11 AM

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I self-learn piano just a few months ago via online tutorial (youtube) and able to play certain songs. I took some time off during studying at my dorm to practice at the college's wreck piano (I heard that no one tune the poor thing for years... cheap admin)

It take me some problem in using my left hand though but then usually the songs use left hands for repetitions anyway.

Im relearning music theory since I left hanging since I was in standard 5.. haha... Piano doesn't need to learn about everything to learn how to play a song. If you know the song by heart, and know what keys to press, (if you like backward learning) you could understand the music sheet much than starting to learn how to play "Twinkle2 little stars"

heck... university is for learning new skills right.. yep yep...
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post May 17 2008, 12:40 PM

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i learn bass when i was 16? is that old. most of my bassist and drummer friend started when they were 12 and 13
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QUOTE(eggtart @ May 17 2008, 12:40 PM)
i learn bass when i was 16? is that old. most of my bassist and drummer friend started when they were 12 and 13
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who cares when ppl start.
the question is who has improved the most and can play better.
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post May 17 2008, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(toccatina @ May 13 2008, 07:09 PM)
with a basic knowledge with piano, does it helps violin?
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if know how to read all the notes then it will be little bit simple for u.
i learn violin when i'm 10 but after 6 yrs i stoped learning d. lol coz abit busy n lazy to practise.

So if u r 20, i think u r quite busy wit ur uni stuff. If u can still manage ur time well, practise at least 30mins per day i'm sure u can still learn it.

 

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