if you takes your time and read my post above. You will know that I tested already pwnage. Some app can put into custom ipsw. Just needs to wait for ipsw tools for better.

This post has been edited by SEP910: Apr 11 2008, 05:13 PM

Ok. Thanks. But probably i should've structure my question properly. I did know you've tested pwnage, but i was just curious about creating custom ipsw.

This post has been edited by zc_squash: Apr 13 2008, 01:51 AM

When you pawn and install firmware SIM will be unlocked right away? How do you feel about pwnage tool compared to iLiberty and ziPhone?

All of it have same target, to jailbreak and unlocked iphone.
But for pwnage, unlocked will be done in your PC, its mean outside your phone.
Yes phone will unlocked right away.


All of them got same target, to unlock and jailbreak.
I feels??

Ok my opinion ler.. don't care what unlocked you used.
"Bootneuter" is important because it can erase unlocked patch BB (iLiberty or ziphone)
And we can get pure iphone back.

I think bootneuter is the best app to unlock and flash the bootloader or baseband. Still waiting for the winpwn app for windoze. Looks like winpwn have a built in IPSWtools to customize it more.

Pwnage tools tops every other tools because u don't need to do all the jailbreak, activate and unlock procedure every time u restore. Just restore with the custom IPSW and everything is done automatically. But i prefer iLiberty more to ZiPhone due to the 2 pass method it use rather than RAMDisk method (which is unstable) used in ZiPhone.

So now do your prefer liberty and zi over pwnage?

So with iLiberty (the best unlock), you will be downgraded to 3.9FakeBlank which can be upgraded back to 4.6 when needed right? ZiPhone permanently downgrades to 3.9 which is irreversable unless you hardware unlock it?

Correct me if I'm wrong...

Right now i prefer iLiberty over ZiPhone but not pwnage coz i've no access to pwnage (since i'm on windoze but not for long).

What I like about iLiberty is that u can have a custom payloads to go with the process that can make our lives easier. Now even ZiPhone copies the function by adding the payload system but still using the unstable RAMDisk method. Pwnage for me is the BEST tool so far (although i haven't personally test it).

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Added on April 13, 2008, 2:47 pmNow the question of having which bootloader is not relevant anymore with bootneuter. U can go back and forth (not recommended) just by using software method. Now people that been forcefully downgraded to BL3.9 by ZiPhone can upgrade back to BL4.6 anytime they want with bootneuter app. Bootneuter also can upgrade back the mysterious BL3.8 (google more on this for info). So now u have the chance to upgrade or downgrade without opening your iphone case.

This post has been edited by frozzbyte: Apr 13 2008, 02:47 PM

im waiting for pwanage to be release on win since ive unlock/jb my phone using ziphone ..and yes now i can see the problem facing by using ziphone. My BL has been downgraded and a few application are not stable on BL3.9 on 1.1.4 firmware. Possibility due to the unstableness of the JB, my phone kinda lag now ..looking forward for Pwnage & bootneuter to upgrade back to BL4.6

thanks frozz uve been a good help

Why not borrow someone else mac to pwn the phone? ^^

as far as i know BL version isn't involved with any stability issue.

mmm...once upon a time, geohot and / or dev team told that there will be a customized hack that involves downgrading the bootloader to reach an easier hack, which is i believe is the fakeblank 3.9 and / or BootNeuter. and they told that it will not work on 3.9. that's why people are afraid to downgrade to BL3.9 that they can't get their iPhones unlocked via this method. but then, BootNeuter has arrived, and it confirms that it can be used on any BL version by turning off security check.

so having either version of bootloader is not a major concern anymore while using BootNeuter. u don't have to upgrade to BL4.6.

erms then wat does?

mmm...so far from what i've encountered, most of the instability issues r caused by some third party apps. btw by giving some time to the developers to work and to the toolchain itself to get matured (not the official SDK), it will become better and better. the platform itself is quite new, yet it has great potential.

This post has been edited by LaskarCinta: Apr 13 2008, 11:40 PM

Mmm ... i don't see the need to pwn the phone in near future unless something happen. Borrow someone else's mac? No need ... by next month or so i'll be having one myself. And by then also the winpwn will already be released. Mmmm ... then i'll have the best of both worlds ehhh.

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Added on April 14, 2008, 12:41 am@Corvinux
If u think that the BL is giving u problem (which it's not) then u can try using bootneuter to upgrade it back to BL4.6. U won't loose any data by doing so. Then u can compare whether its the culprit.

This post has been edited by frozzbyte: Apr 14 2008, 12:41 AM

I'll receive my iPhone soon and might think if using pwnage tool but why you dont need to pwn? Any suggestion that what i should do with my fresh iphone?

Since u have a mac machine ... i suggest u to do the pwnage. Its an all-in-one process and really easy. I don't need pwnage right now coz mine is still functioning well and no need to be restored. Pwnage lift up the BL restriction so we can restore with custom IPSW file with all the jailbreak/activate/unlock and installer. With this we won't need to run separate application like iLiberty to do the other process. Its been done during the restoring itself. Then u got the bootneuter app to make unlocking precedure easier and upgrading or downgrading the BL with just a flick of the finger.

My advise just stay away with pwnage first until full version 2.0 was release. Unless you know what you do.

Regarding ilib and ziph, well, both was stable.

@laskarcinta & frozzy

hmm point taken..nevertheless i would still wanna try..see if there's any different in term of lags & the application as well on either BL3.9 & BL 4.6 thanks!

@moonflown
welcome!! jes dont brick the phone!

Version 2.0? You means the iPhone firmware? What is it gonna do with pwnage tool?

He mean that you should pwnage your phone when firmware 2.0 is out.