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Fund Investment Corner v2, A to Z about Fund
Fund Investment Corner v2, A to Z about Fund
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Jan 11 2012, 11:18 AM
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Jan 12 2012, 01:15 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 12 2012, 11:12 AM) Election has nothing to do or alter the fund performance. IF BN were to lose more seats or worse, FALL, KLSE gonna go bananas...It is bullsh*t statement to say election is coming better invest in China. No related at all. If you don't know how China stock market is performing or issue of China stocks, please google it. And ask those people invested in China related fund experience as well. Money is not easy to come by, but easy to lose, so always ensure knowing what you invested before committing. |
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Jan 12 2012, 01:33 PM
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Jan 12 2012, 01:46 PM
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Jan 12 2012, 01:52 PM
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QUOTE(JeffreyYap @ Jan 12 2012, 01:51 PM) Can briefly explain where can i check and how can i know the fund is performing? Sorry i ask here because my friend at Puchong, so hard to meet him. And after register an Public Mutual account from my agent, i can trade, sell and buy funds at Public Mutual website right? Thank go Public Mutual website, all UT fund houses surely will have monthly fund reports and interim/annual reports on their website |
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Jan 12 2012, 02:03 PM
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Malaysian Equity Fund
My top pick is Kenanga |
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Jan 13 2012, 11:12 AM
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Jan 13 2012, 08:47 PM
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guys,
just wanna hear some comments... i started my UT portfolio during mid-2008, doing RSP (DDI for some of u) RM100 monthly til end of 2010, along the way also pumped in bits on and off, then stopped cos I felt that markets are peaking. My portfolio are largely conservative-balanced except for a global fund focused on banks/financials (this fund is the biggest drag on my portfolio to-date my portfolio returned about 6%, annualised return=1.7% is this considered "reasonable" for the past 4 years? sifu sifu sekalian tolong komen Added on January 13, 2012, 8:57 pm QUOTE(JeffreyYap @ Jan 13 2012, 04:08 PM) Added on January 13, 2012, 6:59 pmi searched google, but i still not very understand what is unit split. Is unit split is a good thing? Fund ABC - got 100,000 units in circulation - launch price at RM1.00 per unit so, total assets of ABC = 100,000 x RM1.00 = RM100,000 let's say, a few years later ABC's assets value rose to RM150,000, so u have NAV price of RM1.50 per unit (assuming no additional units were created, so RM150,000/100,000 units) then the fund house decided to do unit split of 2-for-1 for ABC 100,000 units become 200,000 units RM150,000/200,000 units = RM0.75 per unit That's unit split for u Effect? - lowered NAV price per unit (RM1.50 becomes RM0.75) - assets value - UNCHANGED (still RM150,000) - psychological effect saja...cos some investors might PERCEIVE a RM1.50 fund as "expensive" - and it keeps the NAV price close to the original launch price This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Jan 13 2012, 09:02 PM |
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Jan 13 2012, 11:10 PM
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my portfolio was dragged down by going into Emerging Markets and Asia Ex-Japan equity funds at the wrong time...oredy exited those funds. My global financials/banks fund baru saja breakeven...it did went up 10%++ at one point though...currently all my funds are above water (finally!)
In a hindsight I would be better off putting all my money in FD...but it's a learning experience. |
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Jan 14 2012, 12:28 AM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 14 2012, 12:23 AM) It is considered poor. ok Why? Because with this kind of performance, one is better off with FD. 4 years in FD at least give you around 12% already without such risk exposure. but good thing I've already sold the laggards...otherwise would be still in the red |
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Jan 14 2012, 12:09 PM
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guys, how many of u are overweight equities right now? Which region in particular?
Thx |
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Jan 16 2012, 12:34 AM
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PM is overrated. Winner for MYR Bond fund for recent years have been AmDynamic Bond, delivering annualised returns of 9-10% CONSISTENTLY, and best of all, it's available thru FSM, at 0% service charge
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Jan 16 2012, 11:38 AM
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Jan 16 2012, 01:11 PM
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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Jan 16 2012, 12:15 PM) Dang.. U sure it's CAGR 9%pa to 10%pa consistently for the past 5 and more years (after minusing the 1% mgt fee + 0.05% trustee fee)? FSM Page for AmDynamic BondCan advise where can i get the stats? Nice for my "severe emergency funds" - ie. not for holding ammunition while waiting for value or trend buying of Equities. AmMutual Factsheet for Dec-11 OTHER PERFORMANCE DATA Calendar Year 2011 (10.12%) 2010 (9.08%) 2009 (11.28%) 2008 (6.44%) 2007 (8.1%) PM agents, dun hate me pls Added on January 16, 2012, 1:13 pm QUOTE(gark @ Jan 16 2012, 01:02 PM) AmDynamic has been steadily reducing the risk factor of it's bond fund for the past 2 years which is a good move. They have got rid of most BBB and A grade bond and loaded up more on AA and AAA bonds. So there risk and also the earnings will be lower now and should not match 9%-10%, which is an exception during the 2008-2010 period. Still, their biggest holdings are in AA grade securities (almost 2/3 of portfolio), while MOST other bond funds are loaded with AAA types. So, AmDynamic are still expected to perform better than most other MYR Bond funds, albeit with slightly higher risk. Anyway the fund has a good performance with 3 year & 5 year annualized return (minus all fees) of 10.16% and 8.24% p.a. This does not include the 1% NAV fee when you sell. Annualised returns might be distorted when there's an exceptionally good year, but look at the CALENDAR YEAR returns, the worst is only 6.44%, so overall the returns are fairly consistent. This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Jan 16 2012, 01:16 PM |
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Jan 16 2012, 01:22 PM
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QUOTE(gark @ Jan 16 2012, 01:21 PM) I am also anticipating the OPR interest rate to be reduced soon by BNM.. due to economic slowdown, so longer term bond funds will outperform. that's why it's time to load up on AmDynamic Bond Basically.... my rule of thumb in investing in bond funds.. 1. Interest Rate Increasing - High Quality & Short Term Bond Funds will outperform 2. Interest Rate Reducing - Lower Quality & Longer Term Bond Funds will outperform |
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Jan 16 2012, 01:30 PM
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Generally Asia Ex-Japan bonds are attractive, Korean bond yields are attractive too yet not too high risk
Added on January 16, 2012, 1:36 pm QUOTE(gark @ Jan 16 2012, 01:27 PM) I am also looking at Indonesian Govt Bond Funds...last year gained 17.1%. but Indonesian inflation is higher too, so even though Indon bonds return high, but remember u have forex risk. Bond fund can be exciting also... This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Jan 16 2012, 01:36 PM |
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Jan 16 2012, 02:18 PM
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Jan 16 2012, 05:05 PM
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QUOTE(MGM @ Jan 16 2012, 03:02 PM) So China market is actually a crocodile pond, so how do you invest in China Funds if not thru Mlaysian Fund Managers? I believe the same applies to Malaysian equities, I doubt if foreign fund managers with no local presence can do well with a Malaysian equities fund. |
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Jan 16 2012, 06:56 PM
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QUOTE(jutamind @ Jan 16 2012, 06:54 PM) if i'm not mistaken, the published performance data is already net of annual management fees + trustee fees, but excluding the sales charge and any exit charge. - AmDynamic Bond got no sales charge- Exit charge is 1% Yes, oredy net of fund expenses i.e. management fees and trustee fees |
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Jan 18 2012, 07:22 PM
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seems that malaysian equity funds beat global equity funds or even asia ex-japan equity funds hands down...is this just an abnormal deviation (cos malaysian market = defensive, recent years global equities are quite bearish), or our local fund managers really dunno invest overseas?
cos everyone wrote that diversification is healthy, but overseas exposure are dragging down our portfolio performance... This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Jan 18 2012, 07:23 PM |
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