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kparam77
post Jan 6 2012, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(lunchtime @ Jan 6 2012, 12:08 PM)
could you explain how all this work with Public Global Select Fund?
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before i explain.... i want u to share this info's ...

PGSF -

the fund objective?
approved fund size?
current fund size?
fund risk factor?
asset allocation?
local or foreign?
what/where are the allocations?
Distribution policy?
waht are the possible risks for this fund?
how the fund performance?
do u think all the investors profit/lost the money all the time?





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post Jan 6 2012, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(lunchtime @ Jan 6 2012, 01:46 PM)
?? lu cakap apa  rclxub.gif
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waht u understand abt this fund?
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post Jan 6 2012, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(lunchtime @ Jan 6 2012, 02:15 PM)
you are the agent, you tell me.  icon_rolleyes.gif
and could you look into my posting here http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2007814/+1080
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ya, i read the post too,
(public mutual agents and all those agents who promote themselves with their signature come come,

public mutual NO.1 yes?

then how the F do you explain the ptuiiiii funds like PCSF, PCIF, PGSF whereby since launch till today, not making money? DDI until now also not making money? )


some time agents need to ask Q too to give the best solution. nothing wrong on that.

lets focus on PGSF.

How you know?PGSF, launch till today, not making money? DDI until now also not making money??

this fund do give profits too.

learing investment method/strategy is 1 thing...choosing the correct fund is another thing.

So, can u give the belows.... think.... im trying to help u............ no point if i explain if urself dont know wat u r asking.

the fund objective?
approved fund size?
current fund size?
fund risk factor?
asset allocation?
local or foreign?
what/where are the allocations?
Distribution policy?
waht are the possible risks for this fund?
how the fund performance?
do u think all the investors profit/lost the money all the time?

u can get the asnwer from fund review.
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post Jan 6 2012, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(lunchtime @ Jan 6 2012, 02:47 PM)
go read my new post about PCIF. as for your questions, i m not sure what you want. please explain.  rclxms.gif
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waht i want is how much u understand abt PGSF. i don want to move further if u dont know tis basic info's. all the infos u can get form master prospectus n fund review n fund report n fund performance in the PM website.

take ur time to get the infos.
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post Jan 6 2012, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(lunchtime @ Jan 6 2012, 03:05 PM)
could you post the info here? thanks  rclxms.gif
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http://www.publicmutual.com.my/LinkClick.a...GA%3d&tabid=250

http://www.publicmutual.com.my/LinkClick.a...4Q%3d&tabid=250

http://www.publicmutual.com.my/LinkClick.a...WA%3d&tabid=105

http://www.publicmutual.com.my/OurFunds/FundReports.aspx


http://www.publicmutual.com.my/OurFunds/Fu...manceChart.aspx

http://www.publicmutual.com.my/OurProducts/FundRatings.aspx


http://www.publicmutual.com.my/WebsiteDisclaimer.aspx

http://www.publicmutual.com.my/InvestmentDisclaimer.aspx
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post Jan 6 2012, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(transit @ Jan 6 2012, 05:18 PM)
IMO: Don't really prefer this PGSF. There are plenty of good funds (domestic) better than this PGSF. The AMF and others risks are too high!!!!

PIDF
PISEF
PRSF
PSmallCap (Higher Risk)
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transit,

our fren lunchtime...asking abt the PGSF n need some explanation abt the fund too. nobody promoting this fund.
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post Jan 6 2012, 09:01 PM

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QUOTE(lunchtime @ Jan 6 2012, 08:32 PM)
after running thru the links, it still don't explain the poor returns. kparam77 or other unit trust agents, care to shine a light on this matter.

non agents or smart investors, please refrain from answering, i like to know what the agents are thinking.  rclxms.gif
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im still waiting for...

the fund objective?
approved fund size?
current fund size?
fund risk factor?
asset allocation?
local or foreign?
what/where are the allocations?
Distribution policy?
waht are the possible risks for this fund?
how the fund performance?
do u think all the investors profit/lost the money all the time?


u may get the answer after u get the above info's.

r u sure eventhough C the fund performance.... the fund never give any profits?


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post Jan 7 2012, 11:07 PM

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QUOTE(lunchtime @ Jan 6 2012, 10:56 PM)
i have looked thru i don't see much. tell me more.
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maybe tis can help u..............
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post Jan 9 2012, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(lunchtime @ Jan 8 2012, 11:38 PM)
kparam and (transit, since you seem to be very smart)  , care to reply.  brows.gif
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As I do reply before....learning investment method/strategy is 1 thing...choosing the correct fund is another thing.....in http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/690951/+1640



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post Jan 9 2012, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(lunchtime @ Jan 9 2012, 12:13 PM)
choosing correct fund = are PCSF, PCIF, PGSF, PIABF, PGBF the correct funds? or in your view what the the correct funds? say, i come to you with money, which fund will you recommend to me?
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waht do u thing abt local funds?
waht is ur investment objective/plan?
u prefer capital grow or annual income?
ur risk factor?
any emergency funds u prepared?
ur age?

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post Jan 11 2012, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(JeffreyYap @ Jan 11 2012, 09:47 AM)
i mean the 70% is let say i invested 100k, i can get roughly 170k in 14years. And my friend is not so close, so i don't know he is telling lie or not, thats why i ask u to verify. tq
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did u read the fund prospectus and fund review and the fund financial report?
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post Jan 11 2012, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(JeffreyYap @ Jan 11 2012, 10:36 AM)
let say i invested 100k, after 14years, maybe get about 170k. i'm so sorry for my noobness
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why dont u sit with the agent, do some comparison with PCSF and some other local/foreign funds. ask him/her Q's until u happy with him/her amswers. the more Q u sask the more knowlege u will get abt UT.

is 70% is expectation? or sure can get one? and how the agent can be sure?

Im not saying ur agent correct or wrong. u just need make sure u MUST undestand wat u r buying.

dont folow wahtever ur frens say, its ur money and u must know wat u r buying.

my suggetion only.
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post Jan 11 2012, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(JeffreyYap @ Jan 11 2012, 11:06 AM)
I cannot ask much as my knowledge for investment is limited, he showed me a past figure, so ya(although past figure doesnt mean the future will good), perhaps i will learn some basic first.
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tis is the great mistakes done by investors, never ask Q's and shy.... why like tis?

if ur knowledge limited, expand it by asking Q's. its for ur own benefit.
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post Jan 11 2012, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(JeffreyYap @ Jan 11 2012, 11:22 AM)
Hmm you are right, so the price must higher than rm1 after 10 years. There is no 'expire" date right, if 10 years it become 0.50, then i wait another 4 years maybe will raise until 1.10? if i have the time, i can wait right?


Added on January 11, 2012, 11:24 am
You stay near PJ? can you be my UT adviser? I sign your product lol.
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ya, but 1 correction, lesser unit price is not mean the fund not doing well also. if u buy unit for rm1.00 and the price is less than rm1 after 10yrs, its not mean u r lossing too. u may gain already.

the unit price may adjusted after the dstributions or unit split. but if the price less due to the funds REALLY not perform, u will lost.


ya, t........ PJ no issue for me to mit u,

maybe next weekend or after Chinese new year, we can mit up. PM ME PERSONALYY.

TKHS.
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post Jan 11 2012, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(JeffreyYap @ Jan 11 2012, 09:01 PM)
Thank! Hmm, invest Rm2k per month won't too much? 40% of my salary. I just 22 year old, and 100% to aggressive(PCSF). Every month 2k till 5 years and wait for capital grow for maybe 5years. 5+5= 10 years
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22 yrs old, can save rm2k for investment. good move jeffrey.

since u r very new to UT. and if u cannot wait.
why not u just start with rm1k and DDI rm100 only just for PCSF. at the same time educate urself abt UT too. subscribe to the edge personal money willl useful for u.

the rest of the money, just park in FD first until u really understand wht is UT abt.

putting 40% from ur salary in 1 fund is not a right move/ wise idea for u. eventhough ur risk factor is very high aggressive.

do hv any insurance? if not buy insurance first. medical card enough with full coverage. investment link policy is not fit for u because u r very aggressive for high return.

just my 2 cents.
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post Jan 11 2012, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(lunchtime @ Jan 11 2012, 10:35 PM)
kparam77, tell me should i DDI in PCSF, PCIF? because according to you DDI averages the cost of purchase but to me, the fund is still losing money after 4 years of DDI.

forget about objectives and such, bottomline is after 4 years of DDI, its still down. so what next?
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u got the answer frm ur own Q. the fund is not perform for 4 yrs. i wont choose this funds if i in ur place.

yes, DDI can average down the buying price over the time, if u hv confident abt PCSF n PCIF, its ur money, u take charge.

u read the asset allocations for those funds, and the market overview and outlook. n decide want to go for DDI or not.

i think, u still not understand the investment methods vs rebalance portfolio vs choosing funds.


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post Jan 12 2012, 08:06 AM

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QUOTE(lunchtime @ Jan 11 2012, 11:11 PM)
tell me, which of your statement did you make reference to investment methods vs rebalance portfolio vs  choosing funds?

you were talking about the pros of DDI and asking a lot of questions about objectives and such but did you mention about choosing funds, investment methods, rebalancing portfolio?  correct me if i m wrong rclxub.gif
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without ur investment objective.. i cannot move....... but u stop me discuss abt objective.

i put tis way.... waht is ur plan actually?
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post Jan 12 2012, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(lunchtime @ Jan 12 2012, 10:06 AM)
why the need for investment objectives when the invested fund is down by 23%?

you said DDI would help, so i m asking how would it help and are there better alternatives. But you insisted that i read the fund objectives which i have done but what the conclusion?  Now i  rclxub.gif
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I do said DDI will help, but i didnt mention for which fund. Do i? if u ask DDI will help for not performing fund, even god also cannot answer.

and u ask me which fund better for u.

even u read the objective, u still cannot find which fund is match for u.

i even dont know who u r? ur age? ur risk factor? how i goingt to guides u?

i cannot suggest smallcap fund for u if u 70 yrs old and go for DDI.

i cannot suggest money market fund for u if u 20 yrs old and go for DDI.

so, ur plan/objective is very important for choosing the fund, beside the investment methods.
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post Jan 12 2012, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(JeffreyYap @ Jan 12 2012, 11:06 AM)
Ya, thats why, i still young, thats why high risk is not a problem for me. But still, i think i go for domestic better. My agent told me election is coming, so go for China lol.

Just informed my friend i will go for Public Regular Saving Fund. Ya i have insurance, thank bro, i will start with low first until i understand what is UT about.


Added on January 12, 2012, 11:11 am
Besides DDI, what else i can do without service charge or whatever charge, i only know if annual the fund performs good, then got distribution payout, then if i reinvest, i no need to pay service charge(if not mistaken). Even lump sum requires service charge. I thought UT only got DDI(which bank in monthly for your selected fund), Can you briefly explain a bit?
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election is only for short term, no big impact. do china no election at all? if ur agent worry abt the election, u can wait for the election over. no issue because u still young.

PRSF is good local fund. 100% in local only, its a moderate risk profile funds. i also hv this fund. good move to start with tis first.

take note, ur risk tolerance is high risk, so, later u can concider higher risk fund after u hv knowledge abt UT.

either DDI or lump sum, still need to pay SC/managment fee/ trustee fees n others if any.
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post Jan 12 2012, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(JeffreyYap @ Jan 12 2012, 01:29 PM)
Thank transit! I think my friend submitted already. I put RM2k capital smile.gif, anyway, this PRSF considers aggressive type right.
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ur DDI amount?

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