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yahiko
post May 5 2010, 04:32 PM

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HSBC quote me: fully flexi like u guys say
1st 3 year BLR -1.8
4 years> BLR -1.9

monthly need to pay RM10...

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post Jun 11 2010, 12:31 PM

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this hsbc homesmart plan lying 1 la... i paid the interest from march 2010 for the 1st month,after tat i put all my saving money inside ,its about half of my loan ,but the interest n the every month paying still the same!u say izzit lying us? vmad.gif
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post Jun 11 2010, 12:48 PM

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How much is your loan amount? and interest charge before and after dump in money?
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post Jun 11 2010, 12:51 PM

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QUOTE(mysally @ Jun 11 2010, 12:31 PM)
this hsbc homesmart plan lying 1 la... i paid the interest from march 2010 for the 1st month,after tat i put all my saving money inside ,its about half of my loan ,but the interest n the every month paying still the same!u say izzit lying us? vmad.gif
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interest every month is same or installment every month is same?
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post Jun 11 2010, 01:14 PM

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loan RM166500, BLR-2.05 for 1st yr . monthly payment RM771,b4dump in money=interest RM449.
after dump in money RM86,000 ,interest RM 462. sweat.gif

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post Jun 11 2010, 01:43 PM

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You need to talk to your loan officer/branch about that and ask them to show me the calculations. I'd do it in a heartbeat.
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post Jun 11 2010, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(Syd G @ Jun 11 2010, 12:51 PM)
interest every month is same or installment every month is same?
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It can never be the same. I computed based on my own excel and i got the exact interest charges they charged me. So i can say it's not the same. if interest not the same, monthy instalment shouldn't be the same also.
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QUOTE(calcom21 @ Jun 11 2010, 01:53 PM)
It can never be the same. I computed based on my own excel and i got the exact interest charges they charged me. So i can say it's not the same. if interest not the same, monthy instalment shouldn't be the same also.
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You can pay same monthly installment but if interest is lower, more money goes towards principle. This will reduce the length of your loan.
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post Jun 12 2010, 12:46 PM

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You check with HSBC.
As far as I know how it works is the interest gets reduced; but principal is the same. So total monthly installment is reduced because of the reduction in interest portion.

Btw, I don't recall seeing "interest" vs "principal" split in HSBC statement.
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post Jun 12 2010, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(b00n @ Jun 12 2010, 12:46 PM)
You check with HSBC.
As far as I know how it works is the interest gets reduced; but principal is the same. So total monthly installment is reduced because of the reduction in interest portion.

Btw, I don't recall seeing "interest" vs "principal" split in HSBC statement.
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But from what the bank loan personnel told me, my understanding is the monthly installment is fixed, if the interest charge is reduced because of extra amount of cash in the current account, more portion of the monthly installment will be used to pay the principal, and therefore the loan period will reduced.

Anyone can clarify?
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post Jun 12 2010, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(TYK @ Jun 12 2010, 02:13 PM)
But from what the bank loan personnel told me, my understanding is the monthly installment is fixed, if the interest charge is reduced because of extra amount of cash in the current account, more portion of the monthly installment will be used to pay the principal, and therefore the loan period will reduced.

Anyone can clarify?
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I believe this should be the right method. Monthly Installment will only change if (non-fixed rate loan) the BLR have movements and the bank will recalculate the montly installment so that the loan period will remain as the original loan period. (however some bank got policy where the monthly installment stays the same thus extending the loan tenure)

Putting extra money into the flexi account will reduce the outstanding principle used to calculate the daily interest resulting in less profit charge by the bank when installment is due.

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Outstanding Principle: 100k
Installment Amount: 1000
If the income earned for the month is 600, then 400 is for the principle paid.

If you put 50k into the flexi accounts:-
Outstanding Principle: 100k - 50k = 50k
Installment Amount: 1000 (remains unchanged)
Since outstanding principle is halved, lets just assume income earned is also halved so it will be 300 then principle paid for the month will be 700.
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post Jul 4 2010, 06:12 PM

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You can see in your statement the interest charge to you every month. It vary every month because of the daily rest interest calculation. I am using the HSBC smart loan. When I put in more money I can see in the statement it interest reduce.
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post Jul 4 2010, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(imax80 @ Jan 1 2010, 06:50 PM)
I think HSBC HomeSmart and SC MortgageOne are the most interesting Loan package in the market which could help us to save alot because of the current account,overdraft facility and daily rest calculation. The only RISK here is if the BLR goes up.

the techniques of thes type of loan packge(they call it flexi-loan) if you sign up are.

1. 1st of every month, dump all your salary into the current account as it will help to reduce interest because interest calculate daily.

2. 2nd - 30 or 31st -  all your expenses i.e food,cigar,petrol,utility bill,car loan, edu loan etc, withdraw from this current account using the overdraft facility, your home loan also would be deducted from this account.

3. 1st of the following month repeat the step 1 and 2.

the more cash you have the better to dump in the current account.
The steps above also can be maximised by credit card, since credit card have 20 days credit without interest, use this credit card for your living expenses for 20 days without touching you cash in the current account to save interest. But make sure pay the credit card before the due date and utilise it again after u paid.
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Wundering how to use the second function? Overdraft means? And why withdraw using overdraft, home loan can be deducted?
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post Jul 5 2010, 11:21 AM

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I have just applied to the HSBC house loadn this early morning, hopefully nothing going wrong...hoho.
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post Jul 5 2010, 12:51 PM

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I have one main worry when using this HSBC loan. If we use it for our regular daily expenses and everything, then won't the "loan statement" contain too many things? Later, when we use this loan statement for income tax subnission, will it be a problem? Can LHDN easily seperate the interest portion out?
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post Jul 7 2010, 09:15 AM

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I personally think its the BEST Home Loan in the Market if you really understand how it works..

A lot of ppl will first look into the "Best / Lowest Interest Rates" in the market...and most of the Conventional Loans will be able to offer Lower rates.

Like I mentioned, though HSBC Rates are not the lowest, if you really study and understand how HomeSmart works..U will save more than those offerring lower rates.

Just my 2 cents smile.gif
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post Jul 8 2010, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(coconutzz @ Jul 7 2010, 09:15 AM)
I personally think its the BEST Home Loan in the Market if you really understand how it works..

A lot of ppl will first look into the "Best / Lowest Interest Rates" in the market...and most of the Conventional Loans will be able to offer Lower rates.

Like I mentioned, though HSBC Rates are not the lowest, if you really study and understand how HomeSmart works..U will save more than those offerring lower rates.

Just my 2 cents smile.gif
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Mind to share how it really works for you?? So far all i do to reduce interest is to bank in my pay into this account to reduce the principle.. Still wondering if there is any other way to save money..

Secondly,, I just got a call from HSBC insurance or sumthing.

Izit mandatory for HSBC Homesmart Loan to purchase the Fire Protection Insurance which have to pay few hundred each year??
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post Jul 8 2010, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(coconutzz @ Jul 7 2010, 09:15 AM)
I personally think its the BEST Home Loan in the Market if you really understand how it works..

A lot of ppl will first look into the "Best / Lowest Interest Rates" in the market...and most of the Conventional Loans will be able to offer Lower rates.

Like I mentioned, though HSBC Rates are not the lowest, if you really study and understand how HomeSmart works..U will save more than those offerring lower rates.

Just my 2 cents smile.gif
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Wanna check, do HSBC charge any monthly charge on that "current account" ?
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post Jul 8 2010, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(AiRseaL @ Jul 8 2010, 12:36 PM)
Mind to share how it really works for you?? So far all i do to reduce interest is to bank in my pay into this account to reduce the principle.. Still wondering if there is any other way to save money..

Secondly,, I just got a call from HSBC insurance or sumthing.

Izit mandatory for HSBC Homesmart Loan to purchase the Fire Protection Insurance which have to pay few hundred each year??
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You don't have to purchase fire insurance from HSBC, but you are certainly required to have one to cover the cost of rebuilding or repayment to the bank in the event such incident happens... HSBC has to look for someone to recover their $$ in such event, so it is a must to have it..
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post Jul 8 2010, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(numbertwo @ Jul 8 2010, 04:39 PM)
You don't have to purchase fire insurance from HSBC, but you are certainly required to have one to cover the cost of rebuilding or repayment to the bank in the event such incident happens...  HSBC has to look for someone to recover their $$ in such event, so it is a must to have it..
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Aiyo,, no one ever told me this when i sign for the loan.. So every year have to fork out extra 500+ which have no returns in the end... Unlike insurance still have maturity where can get back the fund we put in...

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