Maybe STG is running a thin line between MLM and Investment company.

For MLM company, they still need to register under KPDN, if not mistaken.

For public prepaid, some fellow forumers have mentioned need BNM approval

For public investment, SC approval is needed.

Well if they're not registered in any of those and the authorities close down their business?????????????

This is very risky indeed.

Indeed, this business model should be registered under BNM/BAFIA because it works like getting deposits from public and paying interest-like incentives. This is what I was told by my friend in SC

Ahem,....silicon Wiper/ devil2 ?????????????

1st of all, they are NOT an investment company, there fore, they dont need to register with SC.

2ndly, i was told that their MLM license will be out this November. you should read their Agreement to understand how they run now.

3rdly, are you all still new to the 'WORLD OF BUSINESS'? do you think every BIG company you see today are running according to MALAYSIA's LAW? even BANKs are running on the GREY line. some of their trust fund are registered using that GREY line, dont tell me you dont know anything about it mr.jordy (unit trust consultant)?

i know some of you guys here are really good 'technically' (with all the talk/understanding about laws, business registration matter, marketing plan and etc) but then you guys have to try and learn more about the 'practical' side of business. i've touch on this in my previous post and i dont intend to explain it again, everyone have their own understanding of a certain thing depending on their status (i'm not talking about rich or poor ok? what i mean was whether you're a 'small' businessman, 'big' businessman, professionals or just a office boy) eg, i've had a chat with a SME senior officer of a certain bank, he's 1 of the top sales(maybe self claim, i dont know), he's really good technically(helping me with all those loan stuff and he did a good job too) but then his knowledge/understanding about running a business is really poor.

i'm really starting to feel that i'm wasting my time here explaining things to people who ask the same old question over and over again. use your brain lah dude, or maybe go and mix around with people who ran BIG business, you dont go around mixing with wan tan mee seller or people who's doing some small business and then come here and claim that you know a lot about business. my goodness~

it's time for me to ciao already, dont want to waste my time on people who cant understand the simple LAW OF LIFE IN MALAYSIA. there are things that we cant do at other countries, but in Malaysia? if you have that certain 'ability', you can do a lot of 'things'.

i was here, hoping to get some useful view about STG before making my final decision, but instead what i get is some false claim (without any proper understanding/facts about them), people here seems to be arguing for the sake of arguing and talking for the sake of talking. give me something that i dont know lah dude, instead i'm the one who did all the explaining. if you guys wanted any sort of explanation, go straight to the STG management or marketing staff lah, then after getting all the needed info from them, we discuss it here. wouldnt it be better that way?

it's so damn weird, you wanted to know more about STG, instead of going straight to them and listen to what they have to say (at least go ask the question you wish to ask and then see how they answer you lol), if you still have any doubt about what they say, then only go to SC, BNM or KPDN. for God's sake~ you guys are doing things the other way round and then you start to condemn STG. dont just listen to all those info given by their members lah, go straight to the managers or directors, cause a lot of their members only know a thing or two, but then they already act smart (most of the time, they will be hiding some facts too).


This post has been edited by Devil2: Jul 25 2008, 05:44 PM

the Q & A doesn't go anyway but turning round and round again even i can say the best i saw till now already answered everything and i'm impress. So i'm here to announce that Steven's Tea Garden 1st outlet launching on :

Date: 08th August 2008
Time: 8PM
Venue: can chk at this site on F&B section ( http://www.sunwaypyramid.com/tenants/tenantslisting.asp )

All the above announced by STG Resources.

messenger p/s: pls dun shoot me for any amendments.
(some ppl might be blind and shoot at just anything )

Dude I thought you should be neutral about this bcos u haven't invest yet. The way you get emotionally upset shows tat something is not right. Either you and silicon is the same person or you have a part in STG.

The way you guys or guy are promoting STG bears the mark of an unprofessional Sales Person. Maybe u're not, I couldn't care less but your actions speaks otherwise.

IT's like you're too anxious to want ppl to be convinced. I don't know. I've seen my own fair share of MLM companies and I do note the genuine in their neutrality when they approached me. No obligations and they didn't get upset when they knew I didn't buy their system. That somehow rather made me curious that perhaps there's something in their product after all since my signs of rejection didn't shake or upset them 1 bit. It shows that they have full confidence in their product so much they remain calm.

You 2 on the other hand showed too much anxiety which do give a lot of bad impression irregardless of how genuine STG works. It means you're desperate in need of wanting us to believe OR you guys/guy just have ego problem.

well, MR.CHAT, your post have really prove that you are just someone with big ego and you are twisting and turning everything to suit your claims. i think i've answer most of other people's doubts and also YOUR question in my previous post while you cant even answer my simple question.

1stly, if you're really so 'CLEAR' about the STG scheme, why is there such a big difference in your explanation and my explanation of the scheme? CAN YOU ANSWER ME PLEASE?

2ndly, why cant you take up my challenge if you are so sure STG will not last long? (i challenge you because i was getting ready to join STG, while your claims seems to make me look stupid if i really join them, that's why i DARE you here! just take up the challenge and stop being such a lame ass.)

3rdly, i've give an explanation on how MLM and the PYRAMID works, why cant you understand such simple facts? some of the MLM company need to use their NEW member's fees to pay their OLD members and end up closing down because:-
a) their PRODUCT have very SMALL market (LampeBerger) - F&B is a really BIG market OK?
b) they DIDNT invest those money collected on a CONCRETE business (SwissCash) - 1st STG outlet opening on 08/08/08 OK?
c) they OVERPAY (Seaweed/Gold Investment Scheme) - STG will only OVERPAY if they have NO business flow for their STG outlets. this is just a SIMPLE risk that EVERY business have to face. let me know if you have a NO RISK business OK? i would like to join. if you cant take such simple risk then just stick to your job and dont venture into business.

CONSUMER based PYRAMID/MLM company have been really successful, eg. AMWAY.

4th, why do they need the MLM license? because they will need it in FUTURE (i was told that they have a phase 2 project coming). it's always better to be READY for future challenges. maybe you are those kind of people who always do things last min, but then that doesnt mean other people will be like you.

5th, i defend them because YOU (mr.chat) are making a lot of MISLEADING and FALSE claims. i'm not defending them for the sake of defending. READ MY PREVIOUS POST TO FIND OUT WHY.

so, can i have some ANSWERS please, Mr.CHAT. could you please stop avoiding my QUESTIONS? you are just repeating your OWN claims over and over again without answering my questions. i've proved your calculation wrong, i think people with a little bit of 'smartness' inside them will get what i've said, but with your peanut brain, it'll be a little hard for your to understand.

you keep on claiming that i'm misleading but then you cant even tell which part of the things i say is misleading?? my goodness, it's like you're saying, ' Look, he's cheating!' ~THE END~ and when people ask you why you said so, you're answering them,'because he's cheating loh'. funny right?

This post has been edited by Devil2: Jul 26 2008, 11:02 AM

i guess this situation happens to me too before this in the thread and i can say that devil2 is more professional to handle all the questions and i guess y did he act such way is the same thing like what i encounter here....coz ppl here already full cup of water and can't even accept if there is something new in concept and is making huge wave now. Ppl who'd join my group doesn't join bluntly without asking few hundred questions, check up and down on every inch of risk and think few thousand times....so do u think they are so easy to be convince? NO! of course as they are smart like each of u guys BUT the saw something that open their EYES/MIND/HEART....which these won't happens here as u guys sit and type and nothing but judging a business in ur own perspective/experience. I can say ur are not being honest to urself and not fair to your me or devil2 either....coz we seen something in STG that make a big different in these current market situation and that's call HOPE to Success is much more bigger than any Sunshine Emp. or Lamb Burger or easy pharming.

U guys can keep all your thoughts and it is right cause nothing is wrong untill the truth tell u that u are. So as Devil2 says before, since you guys are waiting it get burnt without knowing it grows so powerfully better join me to see some HOPE! after u see then only u say it LOUD here...my personal thoughts, u guys here is smart in knowledge but i felt that no one here got any GUTS to face the truth of being truthfully fair to all readers here by participate in the STG events and i don't mean to ask u join but just see whats is happening instead shooting blindly over here..alot of ppl do dare to ask anything coz it becomes u guys the adviser now to judge and to say what is right and what is wrong...Come one, u think ur are who? the authority or wat of the STG? we are the ppl who know exactly what is happening in STG and not u guys ok..so pls stop acting like ur know everything....pls ur actions makes me feeling so sad of malaysian mind which i can't blame everything on u all as malaysian are easier to prey on...and a lot of BOLEH can be done here.

So, any business needs time to grow and guts to challenge ahead of many obstacle. Being the thread starter here, what i can say is..i don;t even need any of ppl in forum to join me...coz all my group (of more than 200ppl joined) don't generate from forums...and forums ppl is not even my targets. So pls don;t ask me again Y am i being defensive...its b'coz of the sickening habits of few that kept on closing their own mind and yet they shoot like pro. so being defensive is to save the ppl here being dumb sided...but not exploring into new games of the world of FOOD and Business.

Lastly, i can say that leaving the thread is the best thing to do and it is normal for Devil2 to act in such way. If you ask me i rather to have more ppl to be frens than making a win to stuff my own ego or u wat do u call a person who argue for the sick of argue only..The thread now has become polluted....i can't leave is b'coz i started something here and i'll just need to show to hundreds or thousand of ppl here...YOU MIGHT BE WRONG TO THINK LIKE THAT! and thanks for watching STG drama...hahah STG thread become hot series of the year.

This post has been edited by siliconwiper.com: Jul 26 2008, 03:53 AM

well bro, i'm really upset because i've been explaining the SAME OLD THING over and over again lah, please put yourself in my situation lah. cant you see that you all are asking the SAME QUESTIONS after i've explained it? GERAM lah la bro. i've ASK POLITELY for you all to READ my post carefully but then all i get was the same old question. it's like i'm telling you all something but you all keep on 'ya meh? ya meh? like this 1 meh? got 1 meh?' if you think what i've said is just plain bullshit, why dont you go talk to their managers or directors? and then after that we could have a proper discussion? rather than keep on asking me the same thing over and over again without even putting some effort to go do some survey. i'm feeling like fool lah bro. i go around trying to get as much info as possible to be discuss here but what i get in the end? i've been told that i'm a CLONE lah, i'm cheating lah, i'm protecting STG lah, blah blah blah. i think i've given enough answer and i wish that my question will be answered too, but did i get any answer? esspecially from mr.chat, he cant even answer my simple question and yet you all seems to be siding him, doesnt that makes you all his clone?

i've try to talk about other investment with you (land banking, properties, unit trust and etc) but u didnt give me any response. nvm

after that i've tried explaining to you that if you wish to know more about the STG, go talk to their managers or directors and if you need me to be there, i'll go over to have a look and listen to your view/questions you had for them, cause i know the question i asked when i met them might not be enough and i thought maybe you would have other question that didnt came into my mind when i was there. did you give me any response? NO, then ok, i also didnt say anything.

then i've tried to answer your doubt about the scheme with the understanding i got from their directors, i've been typing for so long but i found that you didnt read my posting throughly as i've been thrown with the same question again and again, i also try to be patient. after i have explain to you about the scheme, you didnt give me any response also. whether my explanation is right or wrong, you also didnt show any sort of response.

and finally, a negative posting about STG came out, here you come, suddenly out of nowhere posting things like 'Ahem...s wiper/devil?' <- it's like you are treating me as a fool lah dude, i try to talk to you as a friend, trying to share view about other investment with you but then you have no reply for me, but when a negative posting about STG came out, you drag me into it.

do you know how i feel dude?


This post has been edited by Devil2: Jul 26 2008, 03:17 PM

i can't really blame them all too as from my experience from ppl i met for STG discussion, ppl see whats happening here and are impressive just that some find it is not just their cup of tea and the leave but for ppl who kept on arguing that STG is scam or whatsoever u name it...they won't change a bit even when STG achieved their success so some ppl are prisoners to their own thoughts and get lock in forever....as once i heard from a very successful MLM.ers "our ego will never be bigger than our success"

anyway those problem young ppl here are the 4th type of ppl . they always act such way....i've learn my lesson here and a cow will always be a cow...

you are just so funny, i'm CHALLENGING you, i'm not DEAL-ing with you ok? if you dont have the guts then just say so, dont find yourself all sort of reasons to safe your lame ass. IF i'm really a CONMAN then you should teach me a lesson, just bet with me and let me lose the rm50k, simple right? if i get my ass burned, i wont be able to CON anyone anymore, isnt that a good way to stop me CON-ing people? and i'm NOT pretending to challenge you, i'm serious with the challenge, it's just you who's running away.

how UNREASONABLE was i? i was ANSWERING all your questions here, but then you are the one who CANT even answer a SINGLE question of mine, so, who's the one that's UNREASONABLE?

if you wanted to SHOOT anyone, then SHOOT with facts, not just with your OWN understanding of a certain thing. the things you claim as FACTS has been SHOOT down by me, i've proved that you are just making FALSE claim here, i'm asking you to CLARIFY it, but did you? you just come and argue for the sake of arguing. you cant answer my question and you cant even prove yourself right. how lame is that~

just look at all your post, you come out shooting STG and claim that you know what are they doing, but then in the end your EXPLANATION have all been PROVEN as 'misleading', you CANT even explain about their scheme correctly. isnt that a little FUNNY?

even till now, you still CANT explain to me which part of my post shows that i'm CON-ing people? just CUT & PASTE it here. DONT just keep on talking without proper FACTS.

i think what your grandma meant was 'Never never deal with a CONMAN, because our family are born with a peanut brain, we cant outsmart them. so, its better we just stick to people with the same peanut brain like us'.

Dude, If u and silicon is all out for STG, you have to be professional about even if it means repeating the same thing over and over again. Besides how are you going to recruit new members once you've join, even if it's bores you to repeat what they want to know. People will be put off thinking you're too proud or something. It's quite normal in this line of promoting something.

BTW that's NOT a negative statement because what Jordy and Cherroy pointed has tremendous importance because it tantamount to legality. Sure what you say is quite true there are many business that ran along thin line of the law without being caught but that's just because they're lucky the government didn't consider to give time to consider to do a major close down operation. Once they do all public investment business running without a license will be close down and there's nothing you can afterward and irregardless of how much you whine, you still lose that money and yes you have noted out that it's a risk but I find it's nothing wrong to be super clear about what's going on with STG.

If at this moment they're operating without approval from SC then they're a huge risk. Maybe you don't really care about laws and what not but I do. People have the rights to know what's going on and that's what Chatwarrior is basically trying to do. The only thing I don't agree with him is that I'm open to MLM and Investment company, I don't find all of them are cheating.

Eh you're new to this forum? LoL if you know me like all others in kopitiam and RWI, If I wanted to make a fool out of you, I won't be so mild about it. But non the less I wasn't, if you thought I did you misunderstood.

You must be wondering why I have some interest enough to reply back to you in this thread eh? That's because I really want to know if I can make some money with STG. But I want to ensure it's something that I can archive with some effort of mine. That means the more I slog for it, the more I make.
If it's not within my control to make more money and I have to leave it to the company to perform, then maybe STG is not for me.

Guyz, it's good Steven Corner offer a scheme that's helping the scheme holder to earn more money..

But a scheme without any independent party scrutinising the action is very dangerous, as the company may goes missing within a day.

With the multiplier effect of 'RM3k' per lot rather than 'RM30', the effect is from 30x to 3000x multiply by the amount of subscriber. We roughly estimate the amount they offer is up to 2000 people. That's about 6million, people.

Putting 6 million even in a professional institution also at risk. Not to say you guyz are putting it in a mamak stall? (I'm not discriminating them, but rather in doubt about their professionalism)

Do they have enough people manage the funds?

There's so many things doesn't comes into the mind of many 'speculator' rather than 'investor' because as investor we only invest in things we know, things we can control.

By investing in things we can't control, we're taking unnecessary risk (Not High risk, high return but High risk, no return YET lost all initial capital)

That's all i'd like to explain, hopefully everyone in lowyat can make a good decision regarding the scheme.

This post has been edited by keith_hjinhoh: Jul 26 2008, 08:53 PM

ok..I try be neutral here and I post based on what I see and what I hear since I dont really know bout this investment stuff..

k..my fren is one of those who pay rm3k and invest and from what I see,he did receive voucher to eat at any steven corner outlet

and anyone from genting klang area or setapak area can see how full is steven corner setapak everynight especially on weekend

and my fren did bring me go office that located upstair of steven corner setapak

thats all only

with your way of warning....? that was not even consider a warning it is more like jealousy to me....the grape is always taste sour when u can't eat them...

Shooting...well i don't mind a blind man shooting....wait till i got chance to shoot,,,well i can see wer u are!!

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Added on July 26, 2008, 9:58 pmppl who want make money won;t just sit here type type type and rounding to square 1...the best to know is seeing is believing ...see with your own eyes, ask with your own mouth....i don;t see anyone of you who need info can benefit from here, right?

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Added on July 26, 2008, 10:02 pmkeith,
i totally agree with your point here but my questions is why someone need to make good decision if he is not interest to join? ppl here like to argue and not for business nor investment? so sometimes it gets so hot that bullet is shooting every where....

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Added on July 26, 2008, 10:03 pmyeah right! after can't get in hand in my thread and then start to promote ur ego in other place...gd strategy...and thks for the exposure and publicity....great JOB!

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Added on July 26, 2008, 10:08 pmthat's great..ur fren are starting to help STG to advertise...thats how we do it....if the place is not too bad..come by when u like anytime anyday. wait till 08/08/08 at the 1st STG outlet in sunway pyramid...it is more than what u see now. one more thing...the eating part are the so called product that we sell but in the way of self consumed, so there isn;t any product for us to sell...like Amway...u use what necessary and share so when anyone that do the same thing u get paid...but while your doin so in STG it'll become a magnet to outsider for crowd pulling...well you don;t one to go into some restaurant that are no patrons.....right!

This post has been edited by siliconwiper.com: Jul 26 2008, 10:08 PM

well bro, the reason that i reply your post all the time is because i think we are in the same boat (you are keen to invest and so am i). i seldom reply silicon cause for him, STG is his career while for me, it's just an investment. i dont think i'll be doing too much on the member get member part. if my friend are interested, then i'll ask them to join me, if not, i dont think i'll be going around asking people to join.

i was looking for info in pjnet and i got a link that send me here, so, i thought i could get more info about STG here, then i saw mr.chat flaming silicon, at 1st, i didnt care to bother about their argument and i was starting to doubt STG after looking at mr.chat's post as i thought he really knows what's going on in STG. as i read on, i found that mr.chat is giving out a lot of misleading info, that's why i try to correct it and prove him wrong.

i know that LAW is important, but then some times, in business, we simply need to run along the grey line. there's no right or wrong there, the authorities cant touch you there cause they dont have any law to stop anything that's in the grey line. but well, i do agree that its always risky to run in the grey line as maybe 1 day, they might set up a new law and you might end up in trouble. that's why i am glad that STG had register for all the needed licenses.

i didnt join them last time because of that too, i was considering whether should i risk my $ or not, although i got really attracted to their plan. but since they will be getting all the necessary license, i think i should be joining STG next week.

actually i'm fine if you wanted to share other investment with me as i did a lot of investment too. will be going into share market soon.

well bro, let end our misunderstanding here ok? Cheers~

This post has been edited by Devil2: Jul 27 2008, 11:06 AM

Invest in this kind of business with caution and care.

You see, you know they're running on grey line, if one day, they've decided to run away with your money, basically you can do nothing about them.

Obviously this is extremely dangerous action.

Just like what i've said, not high risk high return, but high risk, no return yet lose all initial capital. Is that worth it?

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Added on July 27, 2008, 11:20 am

I think that's something to do with our experience. My father have cheated by this kind of scheme before, not exactly the same, but we can smell something. The scheme is obviously running illegally or so. They're exist because of some kind of loopholes in laws that allows them to exploit.

We're here to give advice and notice for those who potentially wants to join, give them some hints and let them makes their own decision.

It's your own money afterall, if our advice and points to be taken is not important for them, then they can join anytime, we're merely giving advice.


Hope that makes you clear.

This post has been edited by keith_hjinhoh: Jul 27 2008, 11:20 AM