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post Apr 26 2008, 09:02 AM, updated 18y ago

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I'm planning to buy an iPhone next month, lets skip the good parts... Everyone is talking about the good of iPhone that i already know.
So can anyone tell me what is the disadvantages for iPhone??

I heard the touch screen is not so perfect, and the battery can't last for a long time(not more than 2-3days).
Is it true? Pros...pls give some advices...Thx rclxub.gif
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post Apr 26 2008, 09:11 AM

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Imho the battery depends on what you're doing with it - My battery didn't even last the day when I first got the phone, mainly because I turned everything on and plays with the phone a lot (of course la right, new phone!).

To me the touch screen is one of the most responsive out there. I've tried HTC Touch with a major disappointment. I don't quite get what you mean "not so perfect". Maybe you can elaborate more in that?

Disadvantages that I can see so far:
- Bluetooth - only restricted to bluetooth hands-free, and it doesn't support A2DP for stereo output. You can't send/receive/sync files with iPhone's bluetooth.

- Camera is so-so, although image quality is decent, it is very basic (only capture). However you can install 3rd party app like Snapture and get more features like digital zoom, black & white, resolution selection, burst shot, etc.

- Limited in customization for not very technically inclined users, unless if you're willing to dive deep into the WinSCP/SSH world, then you can do wonders biggrin.gif

To me, if you're looking for an ipod, and don't want to carry 2 devices (ipod, phone) in your pocket - then the iPhone would be a good choice. If you're looking into cutting edge technology (3G, 5mp camera, etc) then maybe iPhone isn't for you.

iPhone is more towards usability improvement for phones, rather than "putting every latest technology into one device" like what most other smartphone manufacturer is doing.
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QUOTE(Coner32 @ Apr 26 2008, 09:02 AM)
I'm planning to buy an iPhone next month, lets skip the good parts... Everyone is talking about the good of iPhone that i already know.
So can anyone tell me what is the disadvantages for iPhone??

I heard the touch screen is not so perfect, and the battery can't last for a long time(not more than 2-3days).
Is it true? Pros...pls give some advices...Thx rclxub.gif
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i don't know what yo mean by the touch screen is not so perfect ..
if it's broken/faulty.. then any touch screen product also won't be perfect
if it's not brobken/faulty .... then it's better than any product other there ..

if warranty is your concern then Iphone is not for you ..
if battery is your concern , then iphone for you .. but probably NOKIA is ....
for a battery that can last up to 2.5 days of normal phone usage(*abit of wifi ...*) ...and charging time using USB power in an 1hour is very very good...

camera is 2MPs ... and it's much much better than my N70 2MPs camera .. downside, no flash .. but then again , phone flash .. are pretty useless ... unless it's those N95/SonyEricsson camera phone ...

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post Apr 26 2008, 10:12 AM

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Can Iphone set our custom ringtone yet?
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post Apr 26 2008, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(ff8ong @ Apr 26 2008, 10:12 AM)
Can Iphone set our custom ringtone yet?
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yes but you must do some "editing" to the file ..
it cannot just assign MP3 as ring tone ... want to know how? use the "search" button
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post Apr 26 2008, 11:51 AM

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I think the major limitation that we have is the unavailability(cost) of EDGE. You gotta keep your phone connected all the time to fully utilize the phone.

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post Apr 26 2008, 12:02 PM

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another this is it looks and feels more fragile compared 2 other phones. makes u paranoid if u're not using any protection on it.
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post Apr 26 2008, 12:04 PM

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honestly,if u're looking for a good phone,iphone is not the one.but if u're looking for an extraordinary ipod,iphone is the best choice for u.u don't have to buy and ipod and a phone.
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post Apr 26 2008, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(ken_wickedboy @ Apr 26 2008, 11:51 AM)
I think the major limitation that we have is the unavailability(cost) of EDGE. You gotta keep your phone connected all the time to fully utilize the phone.

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Yup Bro, thats 100% true. Iphone is equipped apps is most about internet and multimedia, and without a reliable internet connection there is no way we can utilize this 100%.
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post Apr 26 2008, 01:01 PM

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I thought the ringtone can customize after u cracked the latest software? And the bluetooth can also sync with others already right?

When will be the 3G iPhone release?? June?July?
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post Apr 26 2008, 01:05 PM

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Battery cannot change ourselves EASILY when out of juices..
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QUOTE(Coner32 @ Apr 26 2008, 09:02 AM)
I'm planning to buy an iPhone next month, lets skip the good parts... Everyone is talking about the good of iPhone that i already know.
So can anyone tell me what is the disadvantages for iPhone??

I heard the touch screen is not so perfect, and the battery can't last for a long time(not more than 2-3days).
Is it true? Pros...pls give some advices...Thx rclxub.gif
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i disagreed on your quote on iphone touch screen is not so perfect...go n try any pocket ppc, then u knw iphone is much much better and quick respond.
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QUOTE(darkimp @ Apr 26 2008, 01:05 PM)
Battery cannot change ourselves EASILY when out of juices..
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Theres portable battery charger/car charger. Should fix the problem tongue.gif

Coner32 why arent you waiting for another month for the second generation if you're planning to buy in May?
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post Apr 26 2008, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(ken_wickedboy @ Apr 26 2008, 01:38 PM)
Theres portable battery charger/car charger. Should fix the problem tongue.gif

Coner32 why arent you waiting for another month for the second generation if you're planning to buy in May?
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what i mean was after it reach the battery life time, we cannot change to new battery ourselves.
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post Apr 26 2008, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(ken_wickedboy @ Apr 26 2008, 01:38 PM)
Theres portable battery charger/car charger. Should fix the problem tongue.gif

Coner32 why arent you waiting for another month for the second generation if you're planning to buy in May?
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Anyone can comfirm or prove the new generation of iPhone will launch in next few months??? If yes then maybe i will consider to wait... XD

Btw... If i order iPhone online will apple send it to M'sia??? Cause is much more cheaper...$499 => RM1560-1570 icon_rolleyes.gif

This post has been edited by Coner32: Apr 26 2008, 05:27 PM
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post Apr 26 2008, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(SHOfrE3zE @ Apr 26 2008, 12:02 PM)
another this is it looks and feels more fragile compared 2 other phones. makes u paranoid if u're not using any protection on it.
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Haha, I beg to differ. The iPhone feels way more solid than all the other phones out there, in terms of build and weight, mainly because everything is sealed in, other than the SIM card lid. I do agree, however, that all users will be paranoid about keeping it safe. It's an iPhone, for crying out loud!


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QUOTE(Coner32 @ Apr 26 2008, 05:22 PM)
Anyone can comfirm or prove the new generation of iPhone will launch in next few months??? If yes then maybe i will consider to wait... XD

Btw... If i order iPhone online will apple send it to M'sia??? Cause is much more cheaper...$499 => RM1560-1570  icon_rolleyes.gif
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It's definitely coming out in the next few months. And you can't order from the US Apple store. What you can do is, get someone from the US to bring one back for you. You can ask them to ship it back here, but if the package gets stopped by the customs, then SIRIM+tax = RM4-500 more + a lot of wasted time.

Bottom line, if you have friends in the US/UK, ask them to buy. If not, just get from the local sellers, more expensive but a lot less hassle.

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post Apr 26 2008, 07:06 PM

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QUOTE(Coner32 @ Apr 26 2008, 05:22 PM)
Anyone can comfirm or prove the new generation of iPhone will launch in next few months??? If yes then maybe i will consider to wait... XD

Btw... If i order iPhone online will apple send it to M'sia??? Cause is much more cheaper...$499 => RM1560-1570  icon_rolleyes.gif
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But i think 3G iphone def will be more expensive as well,
MORE FUNCTION = MORE $$$ tongue.gif
So is up to you weather wait or buy now...but if coming Iphone come with 3G function,are u reli going to use it? smile.gif
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not good enough with the touch screen?
It is MULTI TOUCH SCREEN!
its never been found in any touch screen phone before and now~
the battery not lasting is depend on how you use your phone...and the screen on iphone is perfect on colour and the resolution...so maybe it baterry will using faster a little bit than other pda phone...but no different~
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the disadvantage is its expensive...
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post Apr 26 2008, 07:17 PM

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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Apr 26 2008, 07:16 PM)
the disadvantage is its expensive...
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APPLE = EXPENSIVE rclxms.gif
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post Apr 26 2008, 07:25 PM

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QUOTE(ff8ong @ Apr 26 2008, 07:06 PM)
But i think 3G iphone def will be more expensive as well,
MORE FUNCTION = MORE $$$  tongue.gif
So is up to you weather wait or buy now...but if coming Iphone come with 3G function,are u reli going to use it? smile.gif
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rclxms.gif You got my point, i don't really use 3G..hahaha....but is the 3G iPhone come with other function besides 3G???
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QUOTE(Coner32 @ Apr 26 2008, 07:25 PM)
rclxms.gif You got my point, i don't really use 3G..hahaha....but is the 3G iPhone come with other function besides 3G???
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From all forum,blog and website..it maybe come with black shinny body,GPS build in,Front camera,Faster pro speed,
Or maybe 5MP camera(HAHA) tongue.gif . And it coming to Asia official apple shop. biggrin.gif

This is Best Iphone review for me..try to go. smile.gif
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it's always harder to navigate using touch screen when you're in a hurry. like crossing the street ? walking....

nevertheless, i find it a nice phone ..large screen . easier to read ebooks a lot of other functions with some applications that can be downloaded via Installer.app
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QUOTE(ff8ong @ Apr 26 2008, 07:17 PM)
APPLE = EXPENSIVE  rclxms.gif
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Give or take RM1700 for an 8GB storage, full featured iPhone = expensive?

You have got to be kidding me...
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QUOTE(blackchides @ Apr 26 2008, 11:46 PM)
Give or take RM1700 for an 8GB storage, full featured iPhone = expensive?

You have got to be kidding me...
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that why i love iphone so much! smile.gif
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jz wan to ask...isit the blutooth cannot receive file from other device
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QUOTE(TZERNG @ Apr 27 2008, 10:21 AM)
jz wan to ask...isit the blutooth cannot receive file from other device
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cannot .. only to pair with bluetooth handfree
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QUOTE(Choongster @ Apr 27 2008, 10:35 AM)
cannot .. only to pair with bluetooth handfree
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omfg....this is s**k man....huh....wan watch sex video aso cannot hehe biggrin.gif ....
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QUOTE(TZERNG @ Apr 27 2008, 10:38 AM)
omfg....this is s**k man....huh....wan watch sex video aso cannot hehe  biggrin.gif ....
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who say cannot? brows.gif

the disadvantage is i cant play WoW on iphone......................yet.. brows.gif
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QUOTE(Corvinux @ Apr 27 2008, 11:02 AM)
who say cannot?  brows.gif

the disadvantage is i cant play WoW on iphone......................yet.. brows.gif
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And if ur friend want you to tranfer some song to them also cannot biggrin.gif
but you can just say(Mine is apple wan,ur hp cannot support) tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ff8ong @ Apr 27 2008, 11:26 AM)
And if ur friend want you to tranfer some song to them also cannot biggrin.gif
but you can just say(Mine is apple wan,ur hp cannot support) tongue.gif
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lol.. good one thumbup.gif
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actually u CAN transfer files but only between iphones using a 3rd party softwre.
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QUOTE(SHOfrE3zE @ Apr 27 2008, 12:36 PM)
actually u CAN transfer files but only between iphones using a 3rd party softwre.
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this is through wi-fi right?

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QUOTE(SHOfrE3zE @ Apr 27 2008, 12:36 PM)
actually u CAN transfer files but only between iphones using a 3rd party softwre.
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O,reli?i haven got my Iphone yet,ez still think weather want to wait for June 3G iphone or not.
any opinion? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(ff8ong @ Apr 27 2008, 01:30 PM)
O,reli?i haven got my Iphone yet,ez still think weather want to wait for June 3G iphone or not.
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maybe it will have the suprise~
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hmmm...SDK is coming out..i dont dare to said iphone is useless.....who knows in future iphone can get the nickname of mini laptop...
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So all the sifu and brother...i already make my decision to buy 2.5G iphone this month...any good seller
from garage sale u guy think is good?thanks! tongue.gif
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hahah..PLENTY!!
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QUOTE(ff8ong @ Apr 28 2008, 09:28 PM)
So all the sifu and brother...i already make my decision to buy 2.5G iphone this month...any good seller
from garage sale u guy think is good?thanks! tongue.gif
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i cannot tell who is the best but as a consumer, just spend sometime in the handphone or bulk trend and i promise you will find the one which is most comfortable to you. biggrin.gif

forget to mention...welcome to the bright side in advance biggrin.gif rclxms.gif

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Ermm...anyone know how long the battery will last??? i mean the battery lifetime...few months or few years?

Since it is not under warranty...if the battery lifetime finish...that mean i also habis lor??? doh.gif
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QUOTE(darkimp @ Apr 29 2008, 09:51 AM)
i cannot tell who is the best but as a consumer, just spend sometime in the handphone or bulk trend and i promise you will find the one which is most comfortable to you. biggrin.gif

forget to mention...welcome to the bright side in advance  biggrin.gif  rclxms.gif
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But most of the powerful seller(Ton of succesful deal 1)all don't have stock.. cry.gif
so still finding...quite alot.
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From my observation and opinions from a friend of mine, switching to and from iPhone can be a pain. It doesn't detect the contacts in the SIM card, so you'll have to key them in one-by-one. My housemate spent few nights to transfer all his contacts to his iPhone. I can't imagine what will happen when he wants to switch to another phone later.

Well, I am not an owner of iPhone, so better hear from iPhone owners personally. I may be having the wrong impression on the matter. =)
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QUOTE(Coner32 @ Apr 29 2008, 02:03 PM)
Ermm...anyone know how long the battery will last??? i mean the battery lifetime...few months or few years?

Since it is not under warranty...if the battery lifetime finish...that mean i also habis lor???  doh.gif
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Theres no lifespan to the battery really. But after a certain amount of charge cycle, the maximum capacity(cant remember) of the battery will be reduced to like 80%. It can still be used but if its not up to you're need, you can always replace your battery at apple store.

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QUOTE(golvin @ Apr 29 2008, 02:37 PM)
From my observation and opinions from a friend of mine, switching to and from iPhone can be a pain. It doesn't detect the contacts in the SIM card, so you'll have to key them in one-by-one. My housemate spent few nights to transfer all his contacts to his iPhone. I can't imagine what will happen when he wants to switch to another phone later.

Well, I am not an owner of iPhone, so better hear from iPhone owners personally. I may be having the wrong impression on the matter. =)
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Use Simport thumbup.gif Save u all the trouble.
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QUOTE(ken_wickedboy @ Apr 29 2008, 02:44 PM)
Theres no lifespan to the battery really. But after a certain amount of charge cycle, the maximum capacity(cant remember) of the battery will be reduced to like 80%. It can still be used but if its not up to you're need, you can always replace your battery at apple store.
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After 400th time charge,the bett max can go up to 80% only..my i think later on malaysia hp shop will provide
service fot those want to change battery. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(alpha0201 @ Apr 29 2008, 02:50 PM)
Use Simport  thumbup.gif  Save u all the trouble.
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indeed, use simport to transfer contacts data in ur simcard. dun have to key in 1 by one la.. hehe..
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QUOTE(ken_wickedboy @ Apr 29 2008, 02:44 PM)
Theres no lifespan to the battery really. But after a certain amount of charge cycle, the maximum capacity(cant remember) of the battery will be reduced to like 80%. It can still be used but if its not up to you're need, you can always replace your battery at apple store.
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QUOTE(ff8ong @ Apr 29 2008, 02:52 PM)
After 400th time charge,the bett max can go up to 80% only..my i think later on malaysia hp shop will provide
service fot those want to change battery. biggrin.gif
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iPhone is not official product in M'sia (hv't launch) so its not under warranty...and how am i gonna change the battery at apple store? shocking.gif
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QUOTE(Coner32 @ Apr 29 2008, 05:01 PM)
iPhone is not official product in M'sia (hv't launch) so its not under warranty...and how am i gonna change the battery at apple store? shocking.gif
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We all know is not official,the only way is send back to US apple store. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(golvin @ Apr 29 2008, 02:37 PM)
From my observation and opinions from a friend of mine, switching to and from iPhone can be a pain. It doesn't detect the contacts in the SIM card, so you'll have to key them in one-by-one. My housemate spent few nights to transfer all his contacts to his iPhone. I can't imagine what will happen when he wants to switch to another phone later.

Well, I am not an owner of iPhone, so better hear from iPhone owners personally. I may be having the wrong impression on the matter. =)
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There is an app to copy contacts from SIM to the phone right smile.gif

As for me, I sync my other phones to my PC's address book, then sync it back to iPhone via iTunes smile.gif (also my PC serve as my contact list backup)
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Disadvantage of IPhone
1) no 3G
2)cant record video(yet)

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QUOTE(Dante18 @ Apr 29 2008, 06:47 PM)
Disadvantage of IPhone
1) no 3G
2)cant record video(yet)
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Well, new iPhone's coming out soon and it's going to be 3G.

Yes, you can record videos and voices via third party applications.
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QUOTE(Dante18 @ Apr 29 2008, 06:47 PM)
Disadvantage of IPhone
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iPhone lacking 3G is NOT a disadvantage.

Lacking Bluetooth file transfer & A2DP support is.
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Can't wait for the new version of iPhone. Not that i want one but to see what people will complaint next. Don't have this don't have that etc etc etc. I really hope the one thats been waiting for a 3G iphone (but don't use the service) to pipe down and move on.
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3g iphone come out sure will hv complaints..sum ppl alwiz complain..
thread oso dey make..

too me..i hv no complaints abt the iphone..love everything abt it..its weaknesses can be actually covered up by 3rd apps

(guess me in the wrong thread)

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maybe when iPhone is fitted with core 2 quad then everyone will be satisfied tongue.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(c_calvin @ Apr 30 2008, 01:54 PM)
maybe when iPhone is fitted with core 2 quad then everyone will be satisfied  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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Yeah....with 1 terabyte of disk space, 12 megapixel camera, autofocus, xenon flash, 30x optical zoom, card slot for all type of memory cards, usb port, Geforce 9600GTS, Wifi 802.11 ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ, EDGE, HSDPA 3G, removable battery with 6 month talktime & 3 years standby. icon_rolleyes.gif

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iPhone, as a phone, it sucks. Even el-cheapo Nokia 1100 has better features.

I'm using it as an Internet communicator with DiGi Unlimited EDGE. Works way better than my Nokia E61 which I still use as a phone/PDA.

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Iphone is used more like a fashion accessory, instead of phone.
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QUOTE(crazyconsumer @ May 1 2008, 06:40 PM)
Iphone is used more like a fashion accessory, instead of phone.
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Have u ever hold one in your hand and use it? I know from your comment that u don't own one. Thats why u said so. For me this is the best phone that i've ever own (nokia, motorola, Ericson, Sony Ericson, O2, HP, Dopod). Never had the chance to use blackberry though.
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QUOTE(crazyconsumer @ May 1 2008, 06:40 PM)
Iphone is used more like a fashion accessory, instead of phone.
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if it's a fashion accessory .. you will seeing ppl wearing their iphone on their landyard around the neck..
why u don't see it? because iphone doesn't have those holes for landyards insert.....
nokia and most other has it .. why? .. erm maybe because they are the one that is the fashion accessory ..smile.gif

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To me my iphone 16GB is one of the gadget to play with especially i love listening music a lot...like 2 hours a day at least and also the video quality is damn nice also. I have E90 and Nokia N958GB but let me tell you something that my iphone play more louder compared my N95GB. All phone got good and bad and depend what u really what it for?
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about the speaker,how is it compare to nokia 5300 xpress music?or n70?

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I'm planning to buy an iPhone next month, lets skip the good parts... Everyone is talking about the good of iPhone that i already know.
So can anyone tell me what is the disadvantages for iPhone??

I heard the touch screen is not so perfect, and the battery can't last for a long time(not more than 2-3days).
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oii mark, you think that you are still young ar? hanging all those mobile phone charms? lol
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What to do? Must have the charm to help me get through my PhD. When you are at a dead end, you will use anything and everything that could help you see the light at the end of the tunnel.  tongue.gif

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ha ha. or you are attempting to court those young mui mui gals?
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about the speaker,how is it compare to nokia 5300 xpress music?or n70?
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It's pretty soft and mono only. Again, it depends on the sound level of the MP3 files. I always normalized all my mp3s to 89% volume. Most downloaded mp3 files have a volume level between 92% to 101%.
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Mui Mui Zai no need to use charms. Use iPhone enough already lol
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REALLY? i seem to be running out of luck then despite flashing my phone constantly at an exaggerated level...
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my fren got his iphone from italy... hmm... i take a look at it n is ntg so special bout it... my fren also said tat.. he say is like a normal phone just add-on wit touch screen... n he say vy troublesome coz cant send in n out files due to tat pon no bluetooth... so i would say is a waste...
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QUOTE(jonrwg @ May 4 2008, 03:16 PM)
my fren got his iphone from italy... hmm... i take a look at it n is ntg so special bout it... my fren also said tat.. he say is like a normal phone just add-on wit touch screen... n he say vy troublesome coz cant send in n out files due to tat pon no bluetooth... so i would say is a waste...
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If u say its a waste then why bother to post in here. Clearly u r not interested in it. Looking at your friend ... its like buyers remorse or he/she don't know the full potential of the phone.
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No Bluetooth? It has one. Just that the features for it are limited, only for Bluetooth earpiece for talking.
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the boring thing is u need to sync.......zzz wasting space.............i.e if u want to have 12gb of movie in your iphone u need the keep that 12gb on your pc also .....or else its lost on the next sync, doesnt really help
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if u want to have 12gb of movie in your iphone u need the keep that 12gb on your pc also .....or else its lost on the next sync, doesnt really help
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Or you could just save it in a folder you created without syncing with iTunes and then use AVPlayer to play the movie. Same thing. No hassles with iTunes. There's always a workaround for this kind of stuff. It depends whether you want to or no only.hahaha


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To me Iphone is great.... very good response on the touch screen, only disad is the ringtone n bluetooth, d wifi n safari is gr8
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QUOTE(frozzbyte @ May 4 2008, 03:24 PM)
If u say its a waste then why bother to post in here. Clearly u r not interested in it. Looking at your friend ... its like buyers remorse or he/she don't know the full potential of the phone.
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that is his own critics on the iphone, so respect that as this thread is about listing the DISadvantages of the iPhone.. everyone has their own point of view, whether good or bad, they have their reasons behind that..

instead of going into a defensive mode, it would be better for you/us to instead ask him why he thinks that way.. yes, i understand that his statement is very shallow i.e. wont mean anything if he doesnt elaborate on it but just saying it sucks..

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just don't sync it. u can set to "Manually Manage" in iTunes.  hmm.gif
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but that option only comes with itunes 7.6
i thought itunes 7.5 is better for iphone? last time i can see some guide alwiz recommend itunes 7.5..
so now it's ok to use itunes 7.6 already?
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QUOTE(jakesean @ May 4 2008, 05:17 PM)
that is his own critics on the iphone, so respect that as this thread is about listing the DISadvantages of the iPhone.. everyone has their own point of view, whether good or bad, they have their reasons behind that..

instead of going into a defensive mode, it would be better for you/us to instead ask him why he thinks that way.. yes, i understand that his statement is very shallow i.e. wont mean anything if he doesnt elaborate on it but just saying it sucks..
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I appreciate your comment jakesean but I don't respect a shallow remarks from that person. Its not a critics since he didn't elaborate on it and he don't even own one. He just used his friends phone and his friend said its not good. And based on that he also said its not good. Thats why I don't take it as a comment toward this thread. I've seen few users feel using the phone is a hassle and comes to a point saying its not a good phone. When i've met them and explain, then they see the full potential of the phone. Some people just bought a phone/device without looking at its capabilities. This is what i see with his friend ... maybe its an In-thing to own an iPhone and makes him think that he must own one too.

Sure the phone have its flaws but it can be circumvent by 3rd party apps. Yeah the bluetooth file transfer not working ... yet. The hardware is there, only the protocols not been implemented. Its still a new phone and should not be compared with SE, Motorola or Nokia thats been in the business for a long time. Its not defensive mode but I felt inappropriate for him to post that remark when he didn't own one and has no experience using the phone.
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the disadvantage is its expensive...
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QUOTE(jonrwg @ May 4 2008, 03:16 PM)
my fren got his iphone from italy... hmm... i take a look at it n is ntg so special bout it... my fren also said tat.. he say is like a normal phone just add-on wit touch screen... n he say vy troublesome coz cant send in n out files due to tat pon no bluetooth... so i would say is a waste...
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an iphone is like a tiger (not pun intended) running on mac os x waiting to be unleashed for people like you.


Added on May 5, 2008, 1:34 amokay, clearly this is a hot topic argument as posting stuff like these against so many pro-iphone users here are obviously unfavorable. hence i try to be fair and refrain myself to be biased as much as possible.



first of all, i do recognise that everyone is entitled to their own opinion; i mean how boring the world is gonna be if everyone hates and loves the same thing. hence i welcome any CONSTRUCTIVE criticisms.



but there is a clear distinct about this particular thread (or any iphone bad mouthing threads) as there are two types; an immature statement (as shown by a few obvious members here) and a constructive comment about iphones' disadvantages.



an immature comment would include things like "no big deal, just another common phone", "even my cheapo xxx brand phone can do better" or its equivalent whilst a constructive comment about iphones' disadvantages would range like "low battery life capacity, limited wifi recipient signal" etc etc etc.



lets not kid anyone; commenter who shows immaturity are usually those who think that by holding the phone on their palm and scrolling here and there for a couple of minutes will quickly assumed that they have seen everything what an iphone can possible do and assuming thats an iphone's maximum limitation. even to this very day, i still cannot get enough of my iphone and cannot possibly understand how shallow can one be to even contemplating typing stuff like that without going through their feeble minds.



hence, to end my post, i would like to emphasis that such immature commenters do not deserve any respect from us. no point arguing or allowing them to explain themselves as you know at the end of the day, they are just plain immature and shallow.


thank you very much for reading!

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QUOTE(nokia2003 @ May 5 2008, 12:59 AM)
no its not! the phone itself its already  being subsidised by the network. for a fine machine like this, i wouldnt mind paying rm3000 and above honestly.


Added on May 5, 2008, 1:02 am
an iphone is like a tiger (not pun intended) running on mac os x waiting to be unleashed for people like you.


Added on May 5, 2008, 1:34 amokay, clearly this is a hot topic argument as posting stuff like these against so many pro-iphone users here are obviously unfavorable. hence i try to be fair and refrain myself to be biased as much as possible.
first of all, i do recognise that everyone is entitled to their own opinion; i mean how boring the world is gonna be if everyone hates and loves the same thing. hence i welcome any CONSTRUCTIVE criticisms.
but there is a clear distinct about this particular thread (or any iphone bad mouthing threads) as there are two types; an immature statement (as shown by a few obvious members here) and a constructive comment about iphones' disadvantages.
an immature comment would include things like "no big deal, just another common phone", "even my cheapo xxx brand phone can do better" or its equivalent whilst a constructive comment about iphones' disadvantages would range like "low battery life capacity, limited wifi recipient signal" etc etc etc.
lets not kid anyone; commenter who shows immaturity are usually those who think that by holding the phone on their palm and scrolling here and there for a couple of minutes will quickly assumed that they have seen everything  what an iphone can possible do and assuming thats an iphone's maximum limitation. even to this very day, i still cannot get enough of my iphone and cannot possibly understand how shallow can one be to even contemplating typing stuff like that without going through their feeble minds.
hence, to end my post, i would like to emphasis that such immature commenters do not deserve any respect from us. no point arguing or allowing them to explain themselves as you know at the end of the day, they are just plain immature and shallow.
thank you very much for reading!
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I couldn't agree more. The concept is the same as "If you don't vote, then you have no right to complain". Ergo, jikalau anda tidak memiliki sebuah iPhone, maka anda tidak mempunyai isi-isi bentangan yang mencukupi dan juga hak untuk membuat sebarang aduan/pembentangan. tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif


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i wonder if there is a perfect phone/ pda phone in this world
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that is if and only if dey come up with a super duber phone tongue.gif
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yea..i agree with nokia2003~

and in my case,i use ngage classic for about 3years till i drop it n broke its screen.but still,the phone is special for me eventhough it doesnt have camera.for me,special handphones arent supposedly to have all this great n superb functions,its all about unique..i think iphones doest have one..well,wat can i say..it is from apple...zZZz..

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QUOTE(nokia2003 @ May 5 2008, 12:59 AM)
no its not! the phone itself its already  being subsidised by the network. for a fine machine like this, i wouldnt mind paying rm3000 and above honestly.


Added on May 5, 2008, 1:02 am
an iphone is like a tiger (not pun intended) running on mac os x waiting to be unleashed for people like you.


Added on May 5, 2008, 1:34 amokay, clearly this is a hot topic argument as posting stuff like these against so many pro-iphone users here are obviously unfavorable. hence i try to be fair and refrain myself to be biased as much as possible.
first of all, i do recognise that everyone is entitled to their own opinion; i mean how boring the world is gonna be if everyone hates and loves the same thing. hence i welcome any CONSTRUCTIVE criticisms.
but there is a clear distinct about this particular thread (or any iphone bad mouthing threads) as there are two types; an immature statement (as shown by a few obvious members here) and a constructive comment about iphones' disadvantages.
an immature comment would include things like "no big deal, just another common phone", "even my cheapo xxx brand phone can do better" or its equivalent whilst a constructive comment about iphones' disadvantages would range like "low battery life capacity, limited wifi recipient signal" etc etc etc.
lets not kid anyone; commenter who shows immaturity are usually those who think that by holding the phone on their palm and scrolling here and there for a couple of minutes will quickly assumed that they have seen everything  what an iphone can possible do and assuming thats an iphone's maximum limitation. even to this very day, i still cannot get enough of my iphone and cannot possibly understand how shallow can one be to even contemplating typing stuff like that without going through their feeble minds.
hence, to end my post, i would like to emphasis that such immature commenters do not deserve any respect from us. no point arguing or allowing them to explain themselves as you know at the end of the day, they are just plain immature and shallow.
thank you very much for reading!
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To me my iphone 16GB is one of the gadget to play with especially i love listening music a lot...like 2 hours a day at least and also the video quality is damn nice also. I have E90 and Nokia N958GB but let me tell you something that my iphone play more louder compared my N95GB. All phone got good and bad and depend what u really what it for?
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QUOTE(c_calvin @ May 4 2008, 05:30 PM)
but that option only comes with itunes 7.6
i thought itunes 7.5 is better for iphone? last time i can see some guide alwiz recommend itunes 7.5..
so now it's ok to use itunes 7.6 already?
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I've been using 7.6 since forever. No noticeable issues for me..
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I've been using 7.6 since forever. No noticeable issues for me..
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the thing i like about iphones is the onscreen keyboard.
since iphone is such a great phone, why are there many people who wanna sell the iphone after 1-2 months of usage?
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ May 5 2008, 08:39 PM)
the thing i like about iphones is the onscreen keyboard.
since iphone is such a great phone, why are there many people who wanna sell the iphone after 1-2 months of usage?
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easy, they are simply not patient enough. i cant simply forget the first week when first got mine. i had sleepless nights researching about it and perfecting my knowledge (though im still far from perfection). i would say there is a threshold time (variable for different people) that you need to overcome to get comfortable with the phone.
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nokia2003, we're in the same shoe. I've researched about it for alot of times. Gaining knowledge on how to use,how to jailbreak/unlock/activate, (thanks to ZiPhone for simplifying everything), read the tips & tricks, what apps are useful to be installed even before I got my unit. And when I do, I'm ready.

Apple products are indeed very easy to use and user friendly interface and you barely find any manuals inside the box of the product, the only printed documents that I found was the Finger Tips which is actually stand to it's name, tips and what you can do and not How To. I can say that I truely enjoy my iPhone very much, it's a revolutionary technology device.

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QUOTE(nokia2003 @ May 5 2008, 08:46 PM)
easy, they are simply not patient enough. i cant simply forget the first week when first got mine. i had sleepless nights researching about it and perfecting my knowledge (though im still far from perfection). i would say there is a threshold time (variable for different people) that you need to overcome to get comfortable with the phone.
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Same with you.but landscape mode is much better.but when i inside bus like rapidkl,the bus
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QUOTE(Mike3300 @ May 5 2008, 08:53 PM)
nokia2003, we're in the same shoe. I've researched about it for alot of times. Gaining knowledge on how to use,how to jailbreak/unlock/activate, (thanks to ZiPhone for simplifying everything), read the tips & tricks, what apps are useful to be installed even before I got my unit. And when I do, I'm ready.

Apple products are indeed very easy to use and user friendly interface and you barely find any manuals inside the box of the product, the only printed documents that I found was the Finger Tips which is actually stand to it's name, tips and what you can do and now How To. I can say that I truely enjoy my iPhone very much, it's a revolutionary technology device.
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nokia2003, we're in the same shoe. I've researched about it for alot of times. Gaining knowledge on how to use,how to jailbreak/unlock/activate, (thanks to ZiPhone for simplifying everything), read the tips & tricks, what apps are useful to be installed even before I got my unit. And when I do, I'm ready.

Apple products are indeed very easy to use and user friendly interface and you barely find any manuals inside the box of the product, the only printed documents that I found was the Finger Tips which is actually stand to it's name, tips and what you can do and now How To. I can say that I truely enjoy my iPhone very much, it's a revolutionary technology device.
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same case scenario with me too Mike!! i did research about the unlocking stuffs, distinguish the differences between Ziphone and iPlus back then, the necessary apps to run this baby and of coz reading the v6 thread from the 1st page to the last page. well, as i'm currently in Aus and i dun have a wifi connection at home, i have to walk around the city looking for free wifi connection. trust me, Australia isnt as generous as in Malaysia which offers free wifi zone almost everywhere(be grateful people). so yeah, poor me that i have to walk and scanned, once i found the free connection, i would stand there for hours to download the necessary apps. imagine that sometimes i've forgotten to download one important app and i have to go to the city again!!! haha, those were the days but i never regret it, for the sake of my iPhone. it's far from perfect to the rest of the sifus here, but to me it is almost perfect as i have necessary apps to cover my needs.... so yeah, cheers!!!! haha..... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Mike3300 @ May 5 2008, 08:53 PM)
nokia2003, we're in the same shoe. I've researched about it for alot of times. Gaining knowledge on how to use,how to jailbreak/unlock/activate, (thanks to ZiPhone for simplifying everything), read the tips & tricks, what apps are useful to be installed even before I got my unit. And when I do, I'm ready.

Apple products are indeed very easy to use and user friendly interface and you barely find any manuals inside the box of the product, the only printed documents that I found was the Finger Tips which is actually stand to it's name, tips and what you can do and not How To. I can say that I truely enjoy my iPhone very much, it's a revolutionary technology device.
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Same here. I researched every single thing about the iphone, pro & cons, so I know what to expect & prepare all the "what if" situation. Even it lacks couple of things, but I'm willing to make exceptions. For me, it's every single sen worth it.

If only they release landscape mode text messaging. It's sooo much easier to type.
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lol! All are in the same shoe, we need a bigger size now! tongue.gif

Yeah, I was thinking alot for the cons of the phone features that I've to sacrifice and not using like MMS (luckily there's SwirlyMMS), no tweaks in Camera.app and other stuff more. Too long to be list, you know them.

Anyways, don't worry. iPhone has alot of potential for new generation apps. I remember someone saying this:

If the iPhone is not a phone, then it's a full featured iPod.
If the iPhone is not a smartphone, then it's a new platform.


That quote shows how strong the iPhone OS can stand in the competition. Don't worry, developers can make lots of apps like never before on the SDK project, just wait and see.

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Yes, I have held and used one before.

And accept it or not ... the craze for the iphone started with its appearance. Same like any other new phone in the market.

And fyi, many people have canggih phones but dunno how to use functions other than call/sms. So no need to be touchy.

Maybe you would like share why you said it is the best phone compared to all your other phones. What does it have that others don't?


QUOTE(frozzbyte @ May 2 2008, 04:10 PM)
Have u ever hold one in your hand and use it? I know from your comment that u don't own one. Thats why u said so. For me this is the best phone that i've ever own (nokia, motorola, Ericson, Sony Ericson, O2, HP, Dopod). Never had the chance to use blackberry though.
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Added on May 6, 2008, 4:37 pmWhat IS the full potential ... share wif us. You sound like Emperor Palpatine.


QUOTE(frozzbyte @ May 4 2008, 03:24 PM)
If u say its a waste then why bother to post in here. Clearly u r not interested in it. Looking at your friend ... its like buyers remorse or he/she don't know the full potential of the phone.
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QUOTE(crazyconsumer @ May 6 2008, 04:35 PM)
Yes, I have held and used one before.

And accept it or not ... the craze for the iphone started with its appearance. Same like any other new phone in the market.

And fyi, many people have canggih phones but dunno how to use functions other than call/sms. So no need to be touchy.

Maybe you would like share why you said it is the best phone compared to all your other phones. What does it have that others don't?

Added on May 6, 2008, 4:37 pmWhat IS the full potential ... share wif us. You sound like Emperor Palpatine.
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Come on, dude. We're not iPhone salesmen here, dying to convince you that it's the best thing since sliced bread (btw, what on earth is so great about sliced bread anyway? hmm.gif )

If you don't like it, that's your prerogative. Some people do and think it's the best phone they've ever had. That's a fair statement to me. After all, one man's meat etc etc. If you feel that the iPhone is just about looks and nothing else, no worries, just stay content in your state of ignorant bliss. No hard feelings smile.gif
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Till nw i alr use my iphone for 5 day and ,what in my mind is

Pro:camera nice.touch screen,bt the best is safari and wifi speed.
con:speaker!
All sifu,just nw u guy mention that can type landscape mode
in sms mode.hw?
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This forum is useless. Might as well put such threads in every forum eg. PS3, XBOX, cars, hometheater, pets, etc..

No end to arguing. Nobody wans to admit their faults and problems
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QUOTE(waeguk @ May 6 2008, 09:10 PM)
This forum is useless. Might as well put such threads in every forum eg. PS3, XBOX, cars, hometheater, pets, etc..

No end to arguing. Nobody wans to admit their faults and problems
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waeguk, I suggest that you get your statement right first. It's not the forum is useless, it's the thread that is useless an no, it's not useless. Mobile phones are one of the items you carry when you're on the go. Of course you need some good features to adapt with your daily life for example, you saw a beautiful Vincci shoe that you think your girlfriend might want... so you take a picture with your phone and MMS it.. maybe a text message reply hinting for you to purchase it. iPhone does not have some of the basic mobile phone features and Malaysians are not so familiar with Apple products so they must know the pros and cons for this phone before they're buying it.

Every gadget and tech device have pros and cos and the most arguable device is mobile phone again cause it's what people carry most when they're outside so they need functionality on what to offer by the phone. You post is a big question mark for me, I don't understand what you're trying to say.

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QUOTE(waeguk @ May 6 2008, 09:10 PM)
This forum is useless. Might as well put such threads in every forum eg. PS3, XBOX, cars, hometheater, pets, etc..

No end to arguing. Nobody wans to admit their faults and problems
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I need to play wow in my iPod Touch , then i am set......It would be sooo great

Let me say , currently I am using DoPod D810 and it has its pros and cons. I am currently happy with it despite its stupid peeling problem and windows mobile behaviour. iPhone is targeted for an average US Consumer and not for us asians markets. That is why dont have fancy HSDPDA , MMS (who uses MMS these days...pfft its pretty waste of money...I would rather snap picture and upload to my mobile blog , at least everyone can view it) and some other crazy nokia-only enabled feature . but ey it gets the job done
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QUOTE(waeguk @ May 6 2008, 09:10 PM)
This forum is useless. Might as well put such threads in every forum eg. PS3, XBOX, cars, hometheater, pets, etc..

No end to arguing. Nobody wans to admit their faults and problems
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No end to arguing....thats the points i want.... so that everyone can have their own decision and their judgement to iPhone... doh.gif
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corvinux and his WoW fantasies on the iphone..hehe..1 day bro..1 day

hiahz..the thing is..if u dun like = dun buy..dun come and complain and want ppl to convice you and all..no one force you to buy,,

ppl hu buy it obviously luv it for sum reason..

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If someone is attacking another person for condemning a phone without proper details, it is downright fair to ask back the same thing (more details) for praising a phone. So don't be bias.

This thread is obviously not for any iphone owner who is has bias.



QUOTE(blackchides @ May 6 2008, 05:29 PM)
Come on, dude. We're not iPhone salesmen here, dying to convince you that it's the best thing since sliced bread (btw, what on earth is so great about sliced bread anyway?  hmm.gif )
And do you consider it a fair statement that "IPHONE is the best after using/comparing all the brands" mentioned by that fella?

QUOTE(blackchides @ May 6 2008, 05:29 PM)
Some people do and think it's the best phone they've ever had. That's a fair statement to me.




Your meat is in question, this is the purpose of the thread. You are the one with hard feelings.

QUOTE(blackchides @ May 6 2008, 05:29 PM)
After all, one man's meat etc etc. If you feel that the iPhone is just about looks and nothing else, no worries, just stay content in your state of ignorant bliss. No hard feelings  smile.gif
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QUOTE(crazyconsumer @ May 7 2008, 09:49 AM)
If someone is attacking another person for condemning a phone without proper details, it is downright fair to ask back the same thing (more details) for praising a phone.  So don't be bias.

This thread is obviously not for any iphone owner who is has bias.
And do you consider it a fair statement that "IPHONE is the best after using/comparing all the brands" mentioned by that fella?
Your meat is in question, this is the purpose of the thread. You are the one with hard feelings.
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now now chillax guys.. smile.gif

i do believed many of us used other phone as well..there is advantages & disadvantages of each phone cool2.gif

and im very much believed that the reason of this thread is to see the disadvantage of the phone in order
for the users especially to be aware of the situation instead of QQ bout it..and the most important of all
to see if there is a need or a must to turn the disadvantages to an advantage such as navite application of iphone dont hv MMS, yet with constructive comments & demands, a person/organization(SWIRLLY!) went to drawing board, discuss, make a program and wallah! we hv SWIRLLY!!

so by using the disadvantages thread, its actually to be more constructive, rather than pointing fingers..

best is said: When we hv problems, we sit down n discuss to solve it, not to point fingers..

thats my 50cents..cheers
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That's right.

Let there be a PROBLEM and SOLUTION FAQ.... and not statements eg. "If don't like, live with it or don't buy, etc."
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emm..may i ask what is the supported movie format that is playable in iphone? Thanx.. smile.gif
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emm..may i ask what is the supported movie format that is playable in iphone? Thanx..  smile.gif
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H264 or MPEG4 stream, with extension of MP4 or M4V.


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QUOTE(crazyconsumer @ May 6 2008, 04:35 PM)
And fyi, many people have canggih phones but dunno how to use functions other than call/sms. So no need to be touchy.
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...and that's not only restricted to iPhone.
btw most of iPhone users here are discussing on making the most out of their iPhones in this forum. not only telling bout how cool this device is, but also discussing on ways to maximise it's potential.

QUOTE(crazyconsumer @ May 6 2008, 04:37 PM)
What IS the full potential ...
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very lot of potential, either the software or the hardware.

OSX Mobile in the iPhone is a relatively new platform (compared with Symbian, WinMo, etc etc) and yet it brings great performance on its function. rarely hang also. and yet it's still young as a mobile platform!

the upcoming AppStore that will be launched by Apple promising a library of great native apps and console-quality games. the existing unofficial apps made with unofficial toolchains available today are already great, i can't really imagine what's more to come.

the processor of the iPhone is 667MHz ARM11 processor, one of the most powerful ARM processor for mobile phones. even the HTC ones only got around 400MHZ. ok, the processor itself is clocked at lower speed (around 41x Mhz) as Apple is still perfecting ways to conserve energy, but i'm optimistic that it will be increased after updates (just like when 1.1.2 released). oh, and for 41x Mhz, it already performs greatly. no lagging.

so there's alot of potential yet to be unlocked. and maybe there's lot more that i haven't know yet. i'm not a salesman.

or google is your best friend.

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Yep, same like all other phones, so nothing different or great there.

QUOTE(LaskarCinta @ May 7 2008, 04:35 PM)
...and that's not only restricted to iPhone.
btw most of iPhone users here are discussing on making the most out of their iPhones in this forum. not only telling bout how cool this device is, but also discussing on ways to maximise it's potential.
very lot of potential, either the software or the hardware.
Sounds like sales talk or copy paste from APPLE articles, but in the end nothing current. Just more promises. By the time, anything comes out, already come out wif iTV.

As for lagging, see my post about sms read/write slowness. You think it's the processor at work?

QUOTE(LaskarCinta @ May 7 2008, 04:35 PM)
OSX Mobile in the iPhone is a relatively new platform (compared with Symbian, WinMo, etc etc) and yet it brings great performance on its function. rarely hang also. and yet it's still young as a mobile platform!

the upcoming AppStore that will be launched by Apple promising a library of great native apps and console-quality games. the existing unofficial apps made with unofficial toolchains available today are already great, i can't really imagine what's more to come.

the processor of the iPhone is 667MHz ARM11 processor, one of the most powerful ARM processor for mobile phones. even the HTC ones only got around 400MHZ. ok, the processor itself is clocked at lower speed (around 41x Mhz) as Apple is still perfecting ways to conserve energy, but i'm optimistic that it will be increased after updates (just like when 1.1.2 released). oh, and for 41x Mhz, it already performs greatly. no lagging.

so there's alot of potential yet to be unlocked. and maybe there's lot more that i haven't know yet. i'm not a salesman.

or google is your best friend.
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QUOTE(crazyconsumer @ May 7 2008, 09:49 AM)
If someone is attacking another person for condemning a phone without proper details, it is downright fair to ask back the same thing (more details) for praising a phone.  So don't be bias.

This thread is obviously not for any iphone owner who is has bias.
And do you consider it a fair statement that "IPHONE is the best after using/comparing all the brands" mentioned by that fella?
Your meat is in question, this is the purpose of the thread. You are the one with hard feelings.
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QUOTE(crazyconsumer @ May 7 2008, 05:27 PM)
Yep, same like all other phones, so nothing different or great there.
Sounds like sales talk or copy paste from APPLE articles, but in the end nothing current. Just more promises. By the time, anything comes out, already come out wif iTV.

As for lagging, see my post about sms read/write slowness. You think it's the processor at work?
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every processor has its own limits and in regards to your sms reading process, you probably have a lot of txts accumulated inside. try deleting some spam and the phone will just run fine.


of course i will be amazed to learn that you are still using an iphone after all your mockery.

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QUOTE(crazyconsumer @ May 7 2008, 05:27 PM)
Sounds like sales talk...
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ooo...FYI, the processor spec is never revealed by Apple itself, hence it's not necessarily known by its salesman.
i'm just being kind here to tell u a lot of potential on the iPhone in very near future (as per what u asked before in this forum), yet u said like that after i'm being so informative.

is this the attitude of people nowadays, asking people and then doing like this in return?
c'mon la, why do some bashing yet being so defensive like that.

oh, btw i typed that myself (based on lots of articles), not just do some copy and paste. respect some other people efforts, not just bashing others just to make yourself looks right. no need to look right nor wrong here, here is a place for discussion.

bout the SMS, i think better don't keep lots of junks there. sure will lag. my iPhone don't give me prob on the SMS, maybe something's wrong with your iPhone? btw the sms interface is really innovative though yet still got lots of potential (oh talking back bout potential, maybe i don't have to).

oh, i'm not an iPhone seller. so looks like i don't have to explain more rite?

ok la, next time, google is your friend. have fun.

(i'm really heartbroken. how people can be that rude nowadays?)

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waaa someone woke up at the wrong side of the bed and bashing on everyone. smile.gif btw this fella have a name. Good thing i didn't point out the full potential or else i'll be label as a sales person or worse.

@LaskarCinta
Kesian la kat u. Trying to give info about the phone when ask about its potential and then kena bash. Sales talk la, copy and paste la. I fell your pain man. Hang in there ... This is a command from your emperor palpatine @ dark lord @ the bad guy. rolleyes.gif

Btw this is what i think thats bad about iphone compare to other phones. Damn hard la to type sms while driving. Last time can type by just feeling the keypad. Now cannot already but since i'm the dark lord, i'm perfecting the skill of typing sms while driving using the force of the dark side. After this gonna read and post here while driving pulak. So who want to be my sith apprentice. Muahahahahahaha.

P/S - Please dont sms while u r driving. Its dangerous and dangering others too unless u r a sith lord. whistling.gif brows.gif innocent.gif
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seems like iphone bashers here are either windows mobile phone users or those who never owned an iphone before and review them based on their "friends" iphone. to really appreciate the potential of iphone is to really go deep by tweaking and experiment the programs compatible by the iphone. but talking more is kinda useless to u keypad & stylus huggers coz u'll never understand anyways. browse thru all the threads here in iphone sub-forum then u'll know the benefit of using an iphone.

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biasa r..to free edi dem..dey are nt open to "change", dey aren't open to various technologies possibly better den wat dey r using..
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feel abit lazy to go thru what you guy discussing ... hehe
Of cos every phone has it's pros and cons.

But ONE thing! The INSTALLER make my life easier. haha biggrin.gif
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All these talk but nothiing solid or current to praise the phone for. I have said my 'actual' disadvantages (Read it), but others just talk about what the future brings or hope for... where is the 'actual' advantages over other phones? Present tense is wat we want to know.... not future tense. Google it? Sure, let's scrap lowyat forum for good ... cos google is our friend anyway.

My wife had an iphone and I gladly gave it away. She hated it. (is that your excuse for me stating the disadvantages?) biggrin.gif

Tweaking?! biggrin.gif If the standard package sucks, it sucks ... if talk about tweaking, any phone also can be tweaked to the max. Might as well overclock it while at it. biggrin.gif

And like wat others have said, touch screen is not for phones. Try doing something without looking at the phone. If touch screen is that good, we wouldn't need keyboards or phone buttons (office/home) anymore.


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Okay for the sake of ending this, I'll bring myself down to his level:

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Your argument is so flawed, I don't know where to start. I would really like to see you overclock a Nokia N95 processor, no, really. Sure, any phone can be tweaked to the max, hey, why not tweak the HTC Touch so its touch screen won't be so shite? Try "tweaking" the Symbian phones so it won't lag as much. Or hey, "tweak" the Internet Explorer/Opera Mini browsers to render pages properly.

Who died and made you the king of all consumers? The touch screen is not for you, not everyone thinks this way but hey, speak for everyone else, why don't you.

But hey you know what, I totally agree. My wife hates it so the iPhone suxzorss!!!! Now, I must preach to the whole world that it's useless like a 5 year old brat. Who cares if it's a DISADVANTAGES thread, I wanna know the ADVANTAGES because, you know, I understand English, really, I do. Yep, that sounds like logic to me. rolleyes.gif

Hahaha, run along now, little boy, you're pathetic. Hehehe, crazy consumer, his nickname is such an irony. biggrin.gif


Okay, now that we got that out of the way, we can leave the sad troll behind and get on with the thread... biggrin.gif

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biggrin.gif I'll play along wif you, old man .. biggrin.gif






Again, future tense. tongue.gif

QUOTE(blackchides @ May 8 2008, 11:56 AM)
Finger friendly multi-touch screen (hey smart @$$, know the difference?) that allows apps that are impossible with normal touch screens such as Pianist and Guitar. Great 3D rendering capabilities that will see console games such as spore released by EA on the iPhone platform (this is not a promise, it's confirmed, they showed the demo). Intuitive GUI means you don't have to scroll through a thousand menus to do one thing (I'm looking at you, Windows Mobile).




Tweaking is for overcoming shortcomings. Get it in your head. Touch screen sucks, doesnt matter how responsive or sensitive. Let's see how long till touch screen replace all buttons in this world.

QUOTE(blackchides @ May 8 2008, 11:56 AM)
I'd like to see you "tweak" a screen to be finger friendly. All the other touchscreens are a b**** to use with fingers and styluses just takes away a degree of freedom.



Tats because you are slow to begin with?

QUOTE(blackchides @ May 8 2008, 11:56 AM)
No lag at all when it comes to menu navigation. I can vouch for that because I dunno, I actually have one?




Get a pc / notebook if you can afford

QUOTE(blackchides @ May 8 2008, 11:56 AM)
Full featured HTML browser which is lightyears ahead of Opera Mini and Internet Explorer Mobile, although lacking Flash which none of the other browsers have anyway.




Get a tv
QUOTE(blackchides @ May 8 2008, 11:56 AM)
320x480 3.5"screen, watching videos on it is a joy. Have I mentioned that there is no lag? Anyone who complains about lag should try out the N-series or even a non-smartphone Sony Ericsson.




Keep dreaming and tweaking. As for photos, get a pc.

QUOTE(blackchides @ May 8 2008, 11:56 AM)
All the little stuff that are a nice touch: I-Chat style SMS. Smooth photo navigation (Looking through photos are a joy with multi-touch) and of course, the upcoming App store (confirmed, not a "promise") that will see the release of hundreds of nice apps (confirmed, not a "promise"), the iPod software etc...



Keep tweaking.
QUOTE(blackchides @ May 8 2008, 11:56 AM)
A phone that gets better and better with constant software updates.



At last, you agree with me.
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And also, in addition to all these features, it looks great as well. Like you said, it's a "fashion accessory" (geez, spare me)



Doesn't matter. You are in the wrong thread anyway.
QUOTE(blackchides @ May 8 2008, 11:56 AM)
Lots more actually, but why waste time on a sad little man who can't be bothered to search the forum and instead demands to know the advantages of the phone in a disadvantages thread?



Of course, maybe u have long fingernails to pick at the alphabets
,like how u pick your nose.urgh
QUOTE(blackchides @ May 8 2008, 11:56 AM)
1) cant search name in phone book by few alphabets

There is a list of alphabets on the side, tap on it and it'll bring you there.



Of course, delete to free up memory. A breakthru ! Oh, you are saying Iphone is same as nokia and SE phone? I tot it was superior?
QUOTE(blackchides @ May 8 2008, 11:56 AM)

2) slow to read/write sms


Mine's smooth as heck and the others have already mentioned that there is no problem. If there are hundreds of SMS is a single thread, then it's bound to lag, even the Nokia and SE phone so I don't know what you're on about..



No need to sulk.... there there.
QUOTE(blackchides @ May 8 2008, 11:56 AM)

3) cannot send contacts


I'll concede that point so okay, the iPhone is useless because it can't send contacts. Talk about sacrificing the forest for the tree!



Of course, more tweaking.

QUOTE(blackchides @ May 8 2008, 11:56 AM)
4) cannot delete multiple sms at one time

You can delete the entire thread if you want or you can install iSMS, in which case, problem solved!




Never mind explaining to you, let people suffer unexpected high bills. Not my money.

QUOTE(blackchides @ May 8 2008, 11:56 AM)
5) EDGE has to be turned off

Okay, this is retarded, honestly. If you don't want to use EDGE at all, then deactivate it by calling MAXIS/Celcom/DIGI. In any case, EDGE is a per-download service so you only get charged if you use it. The phone will only connect to EDGE when you access Internet-related apps, the SAME as any other EDGE phone..




Again, who cares about overclocking or tweaking.

QUOTE(blackchides @ May 8 2008, 11:56 AM)
Your argument is so flawed, I don't know where to start. I would really like to see you overclock a Nokia N95 processor, no, really. Sure, any phone can be tweaked to the max, hey, why not tweak the HTC Touch so its touch screen won't be so shite? Try "tweaking" the Symbian phones so it won't lag as much. Or hey, "tweak" the Internet Explorer/Opera Mini browsers to render pages properly.




Was I a king? I'm touched, you thot that. Until every button in this world is changed to touch screen, you speak alone.

QUOTE(blackchides @ May 8 2008, 11:56 AM)
Who died and made you the king of all consumers? The touch screen is not for you, not everyone thinks this way but hey, speak for everyone else, why don't you.



U know you are preaching too right?

QUOTE(blackchides @ May 8 2008, 11:56 AM)
But hey you know what, I totally agree. My wife hates it so the iPhone suxzorss!!!! Now, I must preach to the whole world that it's useless like a 5 year old brat.



Again, you are in wrong thread. But its ok, you need to protect your pride.
QUOTE(blackchides @ May 8 2008, 11:56 AM)
Who cares if it's a DISADVANTAGES thread, I wanna know the ADVANTAGES because, you know, I understand English, really, I do. Yep, that sounds like logic to me.  rolleyes.gif



Name calling .... the last resort.. biggrin.gif You do know the meaning of your name right? You are living it out.

QUOTE(blackchides @ May 8 2008, 11:56 AM)
Hahaha, run along now, little boy, you're pathetic. Hehehe, crazy consumer, his nickname is such an irony.  biggrin.gif
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That's why we need a new Education Minister. Look at how the education system has failed this guy so badly.

So let me get this straight, your whole rubbish argument can be summed up as:

1)I'm too dumb to use an iPhone

2) My comprehension of English is rubbish

3) I don't know that using EDGE will rack up high bills

4) and this is really funny, check this out, no really, you have to read this:

Get a PC and a TV! Of course, now why didn't I think of that? Quick, everyone, ditch your smartphones, switch to a Nokia 3310 and get a laptop instead! Wanna watch a movie while you're on the go? Carry a bloody 20" TV on your back wherever you go!

What a plank this guy is, always good for a laugh. You give stupid people a bad name, really biggrin.gif




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This is really getting out of hand here.
Not that I wanna attack you with intention, I've been looking at the postings here and obviously you're stepping on a Apple subforum with no less of fanboys around like the other sections, I'm sure you're familiar with the Audiphile where everybody have their own preferences. Everything have their own advantages and disadvantages, come on la you're just here picking a fight refuting point by point from the postings around.

Instead of picking a fight here try getting your hands on a mac, iphone or whatever, touch and see for yourself if you haven't have a chance yet.

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QUOTE(=Hanxz= @ May 8 2008, 12:57 PM)
This is really getting out of hand here.
Not that I wanna attack you with intention, I've been looking at the postings here and obviously you're stepping on a Apple subforum with no less of fanboys around like the other sections, I'm sure you're familiar with the Audiphile where everybody have their own preferences. Everything have their own advantages and disadvantages, come on la you're just here picking a fight refuting point by point from the postings around.

Instead of picking a fight here try getting your hands on a mac, iphone or whatever, touch and see for yourself if you haven't have a chance yet.

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Too bad this is straying out of topic, Hanxz, because this guy is comedy gold. Just nudge him a bit and he spews out gems like "A PC is better than a phone". No shit, Sherlock. I've never laughed so much at a fool before but yeah, this is really getting out of hand, so I think we can just ignore him from now on.

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QUOTE(blackchides @ May 8 2008, 12:57 PM)
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That's why we need a new Education Minister. Look at how the education system has failed this guy so badly.

So let me get this straight, your whole rubbish argument can be summed up as:

1)I'm too dumb to use an iPhone

2) My comprehension of English is rubbish

3) I don't know that using EDGE will rack up high bills

4) and this is really funny, check this out, no really, you have to read this:

Get a PC! Of course, now why didn't I think of that? Quick, everyone, ditch your smartphones, switch to a Nokia 3310 and get a laptop instead! What a plank this guy is, always good for a laugh. You give stupid people a bad name, really biggrin.gif
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Of course, this thread should be on kopitiam. Never talk about someone's shortcomings in their own territory... duh! rclxms.gif



QUOTE(=Hanxz= @ May 8 2008, 12:57 PM)
This is really getting out of hand here.
Not that I wanna attack you with intention, I've been looking at the postings here and obviously you're stepping on a Apple subforum with no less of fanboys around like the other sections, I'm sure you're familiar with the Audiphile where everybody have their own preferences. Everything have their own advantages and disadvantages, come on la you're just here picking a fight refuting point by point from the postings around.

Instead of picking a fight here try getting your hands on a mac, iphone or whatever, touch and see for yourself if you haven't have a chance yet.

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At the way he whines about the tweaking/installing apps onto the phone, I bet that his computer only has windows in it....nothing else. Cause he doesnt like tweaking.

1) So he's using 16bit colour display.

2) His PC sounds are beeps

3) or maybe he's still using a 486 tongue.gif

Talking bout different types of people we have in our today. (or maybe he's drunk hahhaha)


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QUOTE(crazyconsumer @ May 8 2008, 01:12 PM)
Maybe you should stop school then. Get a job.

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I would normally say something insulting to you, but your own stupidity has humiliated you more than I ever could.

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QUOTE(crazyconsumer @ May 8 2008, 01:12 PM)
Maybe you should stop school then. Get a job.

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Added on May 8, 2008, 1:13 pm
Of course, this thread should be on kopitiam. Never talk about someone's shortcomings in their own territory... duh! rclxms.gif
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There's a difference, my friend, you're coming on here acting like a know-it-all and demanding to know answers and when someone tries to tell you the difference, you shoot them down with sarcastic remarks and then whines when people do the same to you. What, you can dish it out but you can't take it?

If you notice the other proper posts, it's fair and everyone discusses them and suggest fixes. I think that's the last you'll hear from me. It's a waste of time stooping down to your level, although your replies are very funny: Remember folks, a PC is better than a phone and of course, computers are rubbish because you have to tweak/install software on them for them to be any good.

Haha, that's it from me. Have fun in your ignorant little world....


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Tell that to your elders/ relatives. I'm sure they are tech savvy like you. rclxms.gif

Yep, my 386 is still running and doing the same thing like you.


QUOTE(nkymark @ May 8 2008, 01:15 PM)
At the way he whines about the tweaking/installing apps onto the phone, I bet that his computer only has windows in it....nothing else. Cause he doesnt like tweaking.

1) So he's using 16bit colour display.

2) His PC sounds are beeps

3) or maybe he's still using a 486 tongue.gif

Talking bout different types of people we have in our today. (or maybe he's drunk hahhaha)
Cheers
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You don't realise it, but your solutions are to tweak and install applications.

What's so superior about that? Any phone can do that.

I'm repeating... it's deja vu! blink.gif


Try selling something to someone .... but tell them they need to tweak/install to fix certain 'disadvantages' ... see how they feel.




QUOTE(blackchides @ May 8 2008, 01:25 PM)
There's a difference, my friend, you're coming on here acting like a know-it-all and demanding to know answers and when someone tries to tell you the difference, you shoot them down with sarcastic remarks and then whines when people do the same to you. What, you can dish it out but you can't take it?

If you notice the other proper posts, it's fair and everyone discusses them and suggest fixes. I think that's the last you'll hear from me. It's a waste of time stooping down to your level, although your replies are very funny: Remember folks, a PC is better than a phone and of course, computers are rubbish because you have to tweak/install software on them for them to be any good.

Haha, that's it from me. Have fun in your ignorant little world....
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QUOTE(crazyconsumer @ May 8 2008, 01:27 PM)
Tell that to your elders/ relatives. I'm sure they are tech savvy like you.  rclxms.gif

Yep, my 386 is still running and doing the same thing like you.
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Whoa man!!! 386!!! I over-estimated you. drool.gif drool.gif

We have a dinosaur here. lol



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As opposed to telling the customer you CAN'T fix certain disadvantages at all? Every phone has disadvantages, what's so hard to get about that? I guess you can't teach an old dog new tricks. No point repeating myself. whistling.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif

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QUOTE(crazyconsumer @ May 8 2008, 09:37 AM)
All these talk but nothiing solid or current to praise the phone for. I have said my 'actual' disadvantages (Read it), but others just talk about what the future brings or hope for... where is the 'actual' advantages over other phones? Present tense is wat we want to know.... not future tense. Google it? Sure, let's scrap lowyat forum for good ... cos google is our friend anyway.

And like wat others have said, touch screen is not for phones. Try doing something without looking at the phone. If touch screen is that good, we wouldn't need keyboards or phone buttons (office/home) anymore.
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don't talk crap here. if people only praise their iPhone here, they don't have to let u know the potentials of the iPhone.

so far i've seen the "disadvantages" that u pushed until now in this forum is the SMS. oh, "disadvantage(s)"?
ok so to satisfy u and everyone, the SMS interface is intuitive, yet it tends to lag if have superduper amount of messages. and can't individually delete yet without tweaks. btw more and more functions are coming to the iPhone, just like when Apple add the group SMS feature in new firmware. ok i know u will not satisfied with something from the future, or maybe u r an SMS guy so u need that feature to be perfect badly (mmm...btw the balloon interface of threaded SMS in the iPhone is more than perfect to me), so maybe iPhone is not that suitable for u rite.

before this u asked bout potential, so people tell u it's potentials. oh if the future is too long for u, better check the video of iPhone software roadmap video at apple.com. it's a promised roadmap that already deployed as beta firmware versions for enterprise and developers. an it wil be available on the public this june. ok i realised that one month is that too long for you, so guess that no need to explain to u further that already knows "EVERYTHING" after using your "friend's" "iPhone". (oh "my friend's", "my wife's", or even no iPhone at all, i'm not at liberty to discuss further, i know my place).

so it's a promised future for the iPhone. not only some junks spread over the net.

bout the device itself, clearly it's a great combination of hardware. i don't have to explain that again, u r so clever that u already knows everything rite?

QUOTE(crazyconsumer @ May 8 2008, 09:37 AM)
My wife had an iphone and I gladly gave it away. She hated it. (is that your excuse for me stating the disadvantages?)
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maybe it's not suitable for her use. remember though that not every device in this world, and in fact not every product made in this world, can satisfy everyone's usage.
and i found that the text in bold is rather insignificant. i'd rather see it as your own excuse, not anyone's else here. something's wrong.

QUOTE(crazyconsumer @ May 8 2008, 09:37 AM)
Tweaking?! biggrin.gif If the standard package sucks, it sucks ... if talk about tweaking, any phone also can be tweaked to the max. Might as well overclock it while at it.
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oh if need tweaking it sucks? c'mon la, people tweak PSP so they can get homebrew. people tweak computer to bring great performance, features, etc etc (oh looks like u never tweak your computer, i dunno that). people tweak car so they can get what they desired. and we are not forcing people to do tweaks here either. but one thing for sure, it adds great functionalities to the iPhone, so nothing's wrong. oh and u will still say it sucks. ok then, have fun.

QUOTE(crazyconsumer @ May 8 2008, 09:37 AM)
And like wat others have said, touch screen is not for phones. Try doing something without looking at the phone. If touch screen is that good, we wouldn't need keyboards or phone buttons (office/home) anymore.
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phone buttons are lot more cheaper to be manufactured. and the touchscreen of the iPhone is not the regular one, it's multitouch. mmm...ok i've said before that not every product can cater everyone's need, so maybe iPhone is just not that suitable for u (based on your preference for user input). yeah touchscreens still got long way to go for other appliances like desktop computers, but for the iPhone it already works great. it's not only bout the touchscreen, its also bout the underlying software that makes it happen. guess that i don't have to tell u further how other companies also adopt touchscreen technologies for future computers (oh sorry i dunno u don't like the future that bad). at least there are already some tablet computers that make use of touchscreen (of course some still got keyboard, but some get full touchscreen for input), and even the full touchscreen hardware Surface (sorry i got a bit off topic), but this is the way of future (sorry again crazyconsumer)
oh maybe u love SMSing while driving, and iPhone will distract u from your driving and leads to higher probability of accident. so clearly iPhone is not suitable as for your input preference.

QUOTE(crazyconsumer @ May 8 2008, 12:41 PM)
Again, future tense.
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uh oh, u got it wrong, it gives example on the current and future software, making use of the same functionality on the hardware, but greater outcome on the software in very near future. what's wrong with that?

QUOTE(crazyconsumer @ May 8 2008, 12:41 PM)
Get a pc / notebook if you can afford
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i really love how people compare apples to oranges. it's a comparison for small mobile portable devices.
or maybe in your realm, these type of small mobile portable devices shouldn't exist.
sorry i have to write it as mobile + portable + small, so u'll not spin it off for your bashing efforts.

this thread becomes so dirty with all your bashing effort. while people tried to get friendly and tries to explain, u do that again. guess that i have tried to explain before. if people just ask u to google, u said "scrap this lowyat forum", but when people starts explaining, u start to bla bla bla again. so next time, google is your best friend. believe me. oh u don't have to take my words actually, sorry.

QUOTE(LaskarCinta @ May 8 2008, 12:27 AM)
oh, i'm not an iPhone seller. so looks like i don't have to explain more rite?
(i'm really heartbroken. how people can be that rude nowadays?)
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Good one, Laskarcinta..

Well, @crazyconsumer: keep your flaming and un-constructive criticism to YOURSELF before I call in a mod. This is a topic to discuss about the disadvantages of the iPhone, not to flame it, so if you're not happy about it say it in 1 sentence. And that's enough.

If your english is THAT shallow, well, let me help you, just say:

I hate the iPhone.

We won't flame you for saying that, but we really can't stand seeing you flame something which DOESN'T HAVE A LIFE. For goodness sake, leave this topic please..
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Whatever, IPHONE has the biggest disadvantage .... it needs tweaking. Out of the box, it sucks.

Can't accept that, close the tread.
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If you can't accept that....LEAVE THE THREAD...

Go back to your cave and bertaubat.

P.S. Your computer is A BIG DISADVANTAGE: YOU NEED TO INSTALL PROGRAMS ON IT!!! Your handphone also is A BIG DISADVANTAGE: YOU NEED TO SET THE BRIGHTNESS AND CHANGE THE RINGTONES!!! That's tweaking also. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif


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Exactly what nkymark said.

Everything as its advantages and disadvantages, so why are you whining so much? Is it that your phone is some kinda 22nd century one which can read your mind and knows what you wanna do with it...

Face it, the iPhone still has its advantages... so stay stuck up in your own world with a Nokia 3310 which you think is flawless..

On topic: I still can't get used to touchscreen typing =/ any recommendations?
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QUOTE(crazyconsumer @ May 9 2008, 09:19 AM)
Whatever, IPHONE has the biggest disadvantage .... it needs tweaking. Out of the box, it sucks.

Can't accept that
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well, u prove my post before to be right. asking people this and that, and then u start again.
mmm...maybe iPhone still not that good for u, so for a better mobile phone with more great features, maybe u need something from the future (future? i know u really hate future tense).

oh btw i remembered u said this before:
QUOTE(crazyconsumer @ May 8 2008, 09:37 AM)
if talk about tweaking, any phone also can be tweaked to the max. Might as well overclock it while at it.
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yup, phones can be tweaked to the max, but the outcome will not be as spectacular as on the iPhone. remember the iPhone itself is on a completely different platform, and the performance itself is still the same in comparison of the tweaked and the non-tweaked ones (as still no overclocking is involved). so performance-wise, it's still the same. they just added the softwares via Installer that downloads directly from the iPhone itself OTA, adding the functionalities. actually it's hardly called "tweaking", it's just "installing", and the process is automated too.

oh the hardware itself, it brings greater performance than other smartphones in market relatively with currently one of the most powerful ARM processor in it's heart. so try to compare tweaking a phone with a lower end processor and a high ender, u should already know what u'll get. and that's not inclusive of how efficient is the OS itself compared to the other smartphone platform. eye candy yet reliable, this is still not achievable on other platforms, and yet OSX Mobile is still new in market.

QUOTE(crazyconsumer @ May 8 2008, 01:13 PM)
Of course, this thread should be on kopitiam.
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it's YOU that make this thread looks like kopitiam, loaded with craps on how u try to defend yourself. u still don't get it rite?

QUOTE(crazyconsumer @ May 8 2008, 01:27 PM)
Yep, my 386 is still running and doing the same thing like you.
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mmm...so yeah, in the end, it's up to the "consumer" that decides which product to buy and to be used in daily life. so u find that it still serve your needs, then why not stick with it rite? no problem.
but this "my 386 is still running and doing the same thing" thing looks weird to me. oh maybe it's a tweaked 386! i dunno it's that good...

oh guess that "maybe" this is the last time u get the response from me regarding this issue. i know u haven't asked for it, but it's just like a chatter with people (but not an empty one), more like a social service to me. and i already know that u already grab the concept of what i've said in here, but u just try to ignore the facts. maybe because u just bought a WinMo device and then u regret that so much, and then u channeled all your frustrations here (but in a reversed way). most of us here have already used WinMo devices before (and also other smartphone platforms), and we understand.

or if i'm wrong, just let me know.

have a nice day!

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QUOTE(crazyconsumer @ May 9 2008, 09:19 AM)
Whatever, IPHONE has the biggest disadvantage .... it needs tweaking. Out of the box, it sucks.

Can't accept that, close the tread.
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Why need to close the thread just because of you!! mad.gif
that so many iphone owner got thier opnion to tell here..

u are the 1 that should leave this thread!!
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Cool down guys, no point to argue over technology devices because every, I say it again: EVERY devices have it's own pros and cons. Just compare and suit the needs and the features of the device to adapt with your life. You're a frequent traveler and afraid that you might get lost, then get a phone with GPS. If you're a music freak, get an iPod or iPhone as it's a converged device, bonus you get a full featured HTML browser.

Just see what you want or need, then get the phone with the features and if not, just get other phones that have the features that you might use. It's as simple as that. Really, Apple is sacrificing some of the features that all the current phones have like MMS, seriously... with the full featured e-mail client who needs to use the last century MMS.

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I agree with ff8ong.

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Please leave the thread (or preferably THE FORUM), people with NO common sense at all like you have no place in this forum.
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QUOTE(TheWandererX @ May 9 2008, 04:38 PM)
I agree with ff8ong.

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Please leave the thread (or preferably THE FORUM), people with NO common sense at all like you have no place in this forum.
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Haha!!cool down..he dont have to leave this forum(this is superb IT forum for malaysian)
He just have to stick with his best handphone thread then OK loh tongue.gif
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LOL! yeah, quite agreeable. =/

Anyway, anyone knows where this is sold?

(not sure whether these kinda links allowed, if not, mod please remove)
http://www.ipodnn.com/articles/08/05/05/ke...owers.up.ipods/
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As expected, this topic is just another playground for bashing.

Mod should close this thread.
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Kensington Battery Pack and Charger for iPhone, iPod

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I want one, it SUPPOSEDLY comes along with a wall charger.... correct me if I'm wrong
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I am actually very noob all things concerning Iphone, so I would like to ask some questions here. Hopefully sifus are able to help me.

a) May I know the Ipod music player has any issues with those mixtape tracks, like those mp3 for DJ mixsets? Pardon me because I am using V3i's itunes and it keeps on rejecting such mp3s.

b) So far is it quite hard to find public hotspots to use the WiFi? Because I do understand Iphone is running on different WiFi security setting requirement as compared to other PDA/Smartphones.....

TQ very much in advance for your assistance.
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a) May I know the Ipod music player has any issues with those mixtape tracks, like those mp3 for DJ mixsets? Pardon me because I am using V3i's itunes and it keeps on rejecting such mp3s.

b) So far is it quite hard to find public hotspots to use the WiFi? Because I do understand Iphone is running on different WiFi security setting requirement as compared to other PDA/Smartphones.....
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a) mmm...i dunno much bout this, but so far i don't have problem with mp3 files. as long as it is in mp3 format it should be fine, and of course the AAC format. in case u still have problem with transferring the audio files, just select "Convert Selection to MP3 / AAC / etc etc", following the format u have set in Preference > Advanced > Importing.
b) looks like u can tap to virtually any wifi spot that's connected to the internet. in fact, tapping into wireless access point is superduper easy. so far i got no prob on connecting with public wifi hotspots.

or maybe some expert can clarify these.

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QUOTE(young_mane @ May 28 2008, 02:09 AM)
I am actually very noob all things concerning Iphone, so I would like to ask some questions here. Hopefully sifus are able to help me.

a) May I know the Ipod music player has any issues with those mixtape tracks, like those mp3 for DJ mixsets? Pardon me because I am using V3i's itunes and it keeps on rejecting such mp3s.

b) So far is it quite hard to find public hotspots to use the WiFi? Because I do understand Iphone is running on different WiFi security setting requirement as compared to other PDA/Smartphones.....

TQ very much in advance for your assistance.
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it is because of the limited facilities in malaysia. compare to UK, where o2 includes unlimited data transfer, you will get connected easily/automatically to the wifi AP because o2 themselves have subscribed those wifi provider for their iphone users. so basically the iphone wifi connectivity is pretty covered esp. in town, where your iphone can do the wifi-hopping, from one AP to another, when there is no wifi point, gprs can be used.
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QUOTE(youngkies @ May 28 2008, 06:21 AM)
it is because of the limited facilities in malaysia. compare to UK, where o2 includes unlimited data transfer, you will get connected easily/automatically to the wifi AP because o2 themselves have subscribed those wifi provider for their iphone users. so basically the iphone wifi connectivity is pretty covered esp. in town, where your iphone can do the wifi-hopping, from one AP to another, when there is no wifi point, gprs can be used.
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Whatever, IPHONE has the biggest disadvantage .... it needs tweaking. Out of the box, it sucks.

Can't accept that, close the tread.
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i feel iphone was coolest ever pda/phone around. even its lack of 3g, i bet still not many of us using it

for the time being, iphone still great with availability to customise, 3rd party add-on softwares support & super bright touch panel screen thumbup.gif rclxm9.gif
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I feel iphones are great... Just they don't have enough Symbian apps... Which i have in my nokia e65.. which enable me to run some windows programs..
The downside of iphone : It lacks function, and you can't forward a message!
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QUOTE(Reu_ch @ May 28 2008, 09:32 AM)
I feel iphones are great... Just they don't have enough Symbian apps... Which i have in my nokia e65.. which enable me to run some windows programs..
The downside of iphone : It lacks function, and you can't forward a message!
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then all i can say is that you don't own an iphone ... or even if you do, you don't do your homework ... we can forward message , we can insert contact into sms , we can fwd sms to mass ppl ... u just need a 3rd party program
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SMSD is the name of the 3rd party program smile.gif
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disavantage iphone: ppl wanted to touch it so much cry.gif & too many nice n cun casing to purchase cry.gif
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QUOTE(Reu_ch @ May 28 2008, 09:32 AM)
I feel iphones are great... Just they don't have enough Symbian apps... Which i have in my nokia e65.. which enable me to run some windows programs..
The downside of iphone : It lacks function, and you can't forward a message!
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as i already inform, there is 3rd party software can be install to enhanced the iphone capability smile.gif
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haihz..wat in dis world is perfect?

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QUOTE(nokia2003 @ May 28 2008, 07:55 AM)
oh yes, uk is not covered by edge. but some areas around the london airports do surprisingly have edge
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UK is covered by EDGE.
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QUOTE(youngkies @ May 28 2008, 03:14 PM)
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hmmm when i was using my blackberry pearl there


and traveled around uk from scotland to wales, it remained gprs.


i was even advised by the o2 call consultants (PLURAL), that they only have gprs


but then it was before the launch of iphone in the uk

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Guys, I have tried ipod touch and seriously I am blown away by the Safari browser...goodness it was so darn easy to use.

Since ipod touch is iphone minus the phone functions, hopefully its phone brother will perform similarly well too....seriously I am looking forward to get my hand on an iphone soon.

Since I am an avid DNB mixtape listener, hopefully the itunes in the iphone can support them. Sum fellas told me that any itunes cant support mp3 tracks that are more than 30 minutes long and one mixtape mp3 track is like 1 to 1 and a half hours long.

It is also finger print magnet but I believe it will be easily solved with the supplied wiping cloth....

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QUOTE(young_mane @ May 28 2008, 07:47 PM)
Guys, I have tried ipod touch and seriously I am blown away by the Safari browser...goodness it was so darn easy to use.

Since ipod touch is iphone minus the phone functions, hopefully its phone brother will perform similarly well too....seriously I am looking forward to get my hand on an iphone soon.

Since I am an avid DNB mixtape listener, hopefully the itunes in the iphone can support them. Sum fellas told me that any itunes cant support mp3 tracks that are more than 30 minutes long and one mixtape mp3 track is like 1 to 1 and a half hours long.

It is also finger print magnet but I believe it will be easily solved with the supplied wiping cloth....
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Ipod touch and iphone safari perfo is the same,but ipod touch is like 2% faster 4 me.. biggrin.gif

finger print magnet is quite big problem for me,cz i dont carry the wiping cloth with me all the time.

but plan to buy anti-glare screen protector to solve this problem. rclxms.gif
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with an iphone..u wun be needing the touch..keke

convert my fren!! muahahahhaha

i tink v oni hv the touch is coz here in M'sai no iphone mer
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1 more thing. When typing an sms, u cant see the 160 characters limit. So you wont know when to stop or how many char are left like other conventional HP. Let me know if I'm wrong.
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y need to knw hw many chracters u type?
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QUOTE(ChipZ @ May 29 2008, 04:45 PM)
1 more thing. When typing an sms, u cant see the 160 characters limit. So you wont know when to stop or how many char are left like other conventional HP. Let me know if I'm wrong.
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easy. loads of practice.


you will realise that if you exceed one page, the status bar will take significantly longer to complete.


anyway, you can already afford an iphone, dont tell me that extra 5cents (or 1cents), also you wanna save?
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1 more thing. When typing an sms, u cant see the 160 characters limit. So you wont know when to stop or how many char are left like other conventional HP. Let me know if I'm wrong.
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install isms or smsd and you will have the character counter....
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It can capture video using a 3rd Party Application called Cycorder. Granted ..the iPhone has shortcomings but a lot of them have been overcome.
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Thank you.
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Correction. There are apps available for recording videos. I'm using them and many are. So do find out more before assuming there's none.

Thank you.
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what i mean is they dont have it by default.

thank you.
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Well said. Given that, Appstore is available for us to purchase those apps from many iphone developers and thus giving us the option to have those video functions etc that are not available by default. So does Cydia app which provides loads of applications for free or purchase.

Cheers

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1. Ringtone too soft
2. Speakerphone too soft

In general, the speaker out SUCKS big time !
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1. Ringtone too soft
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i face a firing squad abt da disadvantages of i3g almost daily...
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I just wow the critics with the nicest looking applications and videos. It shuts them up tongue.gif
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they just get fed up n say aiya...lousy la....
i get da point tat they wud want one but just cant say it out...hehe
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U have got to be kidding malayneum...hehe.. of course it does. You might want to go visit Apple.com to find out more about the phone first bro.

Here : http://www.apple.com/iphone/

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i got a cousin bro going to buy N96 thinking iphone cant do much
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he wow n say duno iPhone can do tat much stuffs
now he plan to get iPhone instead of N96 biggrin.gif
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The thing about the iPhone3G is that there is a bigger learning curve (to fully utilise the phone's capabilities) as compared to say an N96. If you like all the new technological extra features but can't be bothered with tweaking your phone and rather have something out of the box, then an iPhone3G is probably not a worthwhile purchase.

That being said though, if you take the time to learn more about your iPhone3G and really nurture it ( lol tongue.gif )...the result is very satisfying.

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I've always tell people that when you compare the iPhone side-by-side, feature-by-feature with another phone, say, a high end Nokia or a touch screen Samsung, the iPhone would definitely lose out. On paper the iPhone is beaten out of the picture...but wait until you actually have one and use it.

There is something that the line-up of Nokia, Samsung, SE, etc. could not offer and what i deemed as the most important factor - EXPERIENCE. None of the phones that i've used thus far - which includes high end Nokias and Sony Ericssons could offer the same kind of experience the iPhone offer to its users.

The integration with iTunes is seamless. The Safari is by far the best mobile browser. And the AppStore is oh-la-la!

Sure your Nokia play music. Sure your Samsung surf the net. But do they do it better than the iPhone? No.

Yes the iPhone has a below-than-average speaker, it doesn't support MMS (at least not by default), it doesn't have a front-facing camera for video call. But the EXPERIENCE it offers far outweigh these shortcomings.

Say what you want boo-boys, i am sticking with my iphone smile.gif
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QUOTE(wilsoncvt @ Nov 17 2008, 06:17 PM)
The thing about the iPhone3G is that there is a bigger learning curve (to fully utilise the phone's capabilities) as compared to say an N96. If you like all the new technological extra features but can't be bothered with tweaking your phone and rather have something out of the box, then an iPhone3G is probably not a worthwhile purchase.

That being said though, if you take the time to learn more about your iPhone3G and really nurture it ( lol tongue.gif )...the result is very satisfying.
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You are right. It is a lifelong learning process as new themes/tweaks/apps coming out everyday, iphone users need to keep up to date everyday with the iphone technology, if not u will be left behind so far. laugh.gif I haven't touched my iphone for almost 2weeks due to exam and now I find it hard to keep up to date with the new apps from cydia or from appstore, it will probably take some time for me to keep it up. tongue.gif

QUOTE(rx330 @ Nov 17 2008, 06:22 PM)
crapphone.....
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QUOTE(wilsoncvt @ Nov 17 2008, 03:17 PM)
The thing about the iPhone3G is that there is a bigger learning curve (to fully utilise the phone's capabilities) as compared to say an N96. If you like all the new technological extra features but can't be bothered with tweaking your phone and rather have something out of the box, then an iPhone3G is probably not a worthwhile purchase.

That being said though, if you take the time to learn more about your iPhone3G and really nurture it ( lol tongue.gif )...the result is very satisfying.
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well said bro..its like learning n teaching ur kid 2 grow...over time it'll be perfect...biggrin.gif

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crapphone.....
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i beg ur pardon?

QUOTE(zc_squash @ Nov 17 2008, 03:31 PM)
I've always tell people that when you compare the iPhone side-by-side, feature-by-feature with another phone, say, a high end Nokia or a touch screen Samsung, the iPhone would definitely lose out. On paper the iPhone is beaten out of the picture...but wait until you actually have one and use it.

There is something that the line-up of Nokia, Samsung, SE, etc. could not offer and what i deemed as the most important factor - EXPERIENCE. None of the phones that i've used thus far - which includes high end Nokias and Sony Ericssons could offer the same kind of experience the iPhone offer to its users.

The integration with iTunes is seamless. The Safari is by far the best mobile browser. And the AppStore is oh-la-la!

Sure your Nokia play music. Sure your Samsung surf the net. But do they do it better than the iPhone? No.

Yes the iPhone has a below-than-average speaker, it doesn't support MMS (at least not by default), it doesn't have a front-facing camera for video call. But the EXPERIENCE it offers far outweigh these shortcomings.

Say what you want boo-boys, i am sticking with my iphone smile.gif
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spot on bro...
almost everyone is speechless when u put the experience factor in...
i or any1 can brag on n on abt how tech savvy nokia hps' are or how sleek samsung looks...
at da end of da day, u just leave a person a day with an iphone, he'll he awed...
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my fren saw it on the net, users in US call it crap phone
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QUOTE(malayneum @ Nov 17 2008, 01:12 PM)
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And the camera a bit bad. No video call.
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QUOTE(mangoman @ Nov 17 2008, 03:43 PM)
Your fren? Have u play with it yet? Have u ever touch an iphone yet? Come on, dun just listen to others, please experience using it urself be4 making any statement ok? doh.gif
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usa ppl r confused since birth man...
they produce da item, love it, then hate it...
they dun noe wat they r doing man

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According to The NPD Group, we have recently seen a new leader for the “leading handset purchased by adult consumers in the US.†Of course, as the good news is being shared here, you most likely have guessed correctly, that new leader is the iPhone.

These sales numbers are for Q3 2008 and mean that not only has the iPhone taken that number one position, but it has done so with a $199 price tag. The other handsets that are rounding out the top 5 are the RAZR V3 in the number two slot followed by the BlackBerry Curve, LG Rumor and the LG enV2.

Overall, handset sales went down 15 percent year over year, but that said it is interesting to see that four out of the top 5 handsets are of the “smartphone†nature. It seems that more and more mobile customers are moving past the traditional phone and are looking for more advanced features.


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well basically i think , the phone has its own group of users, for some really its crap, for others, its almighty

as for me SONY SUCKS
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Nov 17 2008, 03:51 PM)
well basically i think , the phone has its own group of users, for some really its crap, for others, its almighty

as for me SONY SUCKS
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to me the iphone is just a damn phone.. nothing godly, nothing special, just a "nearly-all-in-1" phone..
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QUOTE(bryanyeo @ Nov 17 2008, 03:58 PM)
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wtf another reviving old thread.

for me, iphone is the damn best ever phone I ever use.
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QUOTE(frequency @ Nov 17 2008, 05:16 PM)
to me is cannot make call do SMS during driving...@.@
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to me is cannot make call do SMS during driving...@.@
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mesti ilham SMS datang masa nak drive hahaha...

2 places/moments when u can think of everything suddenly... in the car and toilet... hahaha
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QUOTE(sHin0bi @ Nov 17 2008, 05:47 PM)
mesti ilham SMS datang masa nak drive hahaha...

2 places/moments when u can think of everything suddenly... in the car and toilet... hahaha
all sorts of ideas comes...
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Blame it to Intel.. people nowdays like to 'Multitask' laugh.gif

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Why sms when you can call for free with U-Mobile smile.gif

P/s : I'm not a U-Mobile user tongue.gif

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Nov 17 2008, 03:22 PM)
crapphone.....
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Nov 17 2008, 03:41 PM)
my fren saw it on the net, users in US call it crap phone
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wow, u r so matured, and the answer is really spectacular.

"my friend saw on the net...", "my friend already tried it...", "my friend bla bla bla...". u cant even look to it on the internet by yourself. impressive. welcome to the internets. *yawn*

please, dont spam with one word comment.

QUOTE(rx330 @ Nov 17 2008, 03:51 PM)
well basically i think , the phone has its own group of users, for some really its crap, for others, its almighty

as for me SONY SUCKS
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Nov 17 2008, 04:04 PM)
oppps.... VAIO sucks as well
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btw thanks to malayneum for reviving this old thread. it's a great place for discussion on disadvantages of iPhone.
people from Apple are really reading this to improvise their product ...................... Nope.

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hey common
support asian thingy lorh laugh.gif
sony not sucks at all icon_rolleyes.gif
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i think the disadvantages on 3g iphone are the GPS tongue.gif Can't use it in msia yet right ?

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QUOTE(seongboi @ Nov 17 2008, 08:03 PM)
i think the disadvantages on 3g iphone are the GPS  tongue.gif  Can't use it in msia yet right ?
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i think the disadvantages on 3g iphone are the GPS  tongue.gif  Can't use it in msia yet right ?
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The following is my PERSONAL opinion bout the disadvantages of an iphone 3G that i can think of now sad.gif :

-no physical keys & buttons (except the home & volume button)
-sucky camera
-sucky speakers
-bluetooth for headsets only
-no file browser on the phone?

Other prob can be solved by jailbreaking & installation of 3rd party soft...to heck with these disadvantages~ i still love my baby~ rclxms.gif icon_idea.gif

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Bla Bla Bla Bla~ Nokia 3310 is the Best!~
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QUOTE(V3000 @ Nov 17 2008, 10:52 PM)
Bla Bla Bla Bla~ Nokia 3310 is the Best!~
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QUOTE(TeK_KeN @ Nov 17 2008, 11:04 PM)
muahahah supported Bla Bla Bla
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Hoping for +10 warn too? Hehe!! Bla bla blaaa!! drool.gif

p/s: Wonder why so many silly topic here nowdays.. If like it then get it! If dont why bother with it? shakehead.gif

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QUOTE(V3000 @ Nov 17 2008, 10:52 PM)
Bla Bla Bla Bla~ Nokia 3310 is the Best!~
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QUOTE(alexio82 @ Nov 17 2008, 11:23 PM)
yea yea...Ur the best  rolleyes.gif
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Doi.... sweat.gif
I nvr try to mean that i'm best when i'm far away from good..

-Nothing good, nothing bad la bro.. Just how we gonna judge something.
Try go thru this topic from begining.. Alot funny post make me laugh whole night tongue.gif

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I thought steve jobs praised the no physical keys as one of the advantages of the iphone? how come become disadvantage? *scratches head*
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QUOTE(alexio82 @ Nov 17 2008, 05:52 PM)
The following is my PERSONAL opinion bout the disadvantages of an iphone 3G that i can think of now sad.gif  :

-no physical keys & buttons (except the home & volume button)
-sucky camera
-sucky speakers
-bluetooth for headsets only
-no file browser on the phone?

Other prob can be solved by jailbreaking & installation of 3rd party soft...to heck with these disadvantages~ i still love my baby~  rclxms.gif  icon_idea.gif
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Agree with you..
I am an iPhone user and loving it...
But i really hope to have better speakers,better camera and bluetooth transfer also.. smile.gif
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Yea talking about bluetooth. I just realised that the iPhone can't do transfer via bluetooth between other phones. I wonder if anyone is working on a third party fix for this? I looked around on the topic the other day but came up with nothing...
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@.@ another disadvantage..
I can't do calendar/contact sycn with bluetooth
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Well to transfer files.. I think the option at the moment goes on Wifi or cable connection... that's for the limitations we have to admit.
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Some basic features is not there,
eg:
1. SMS cannot forward msg, msg count.
2. No MMS
3. No AD2P (Copyright matters)
4. No Bluetooth file sharing (Copyright matters)
5. Mono sound
6. Soft Sound Volume

But yet, there is alot advantage, eg easy install 3rd party software thru Cydia and Appstore which other phone is hardly competite it. Touchscreen is very very responsive, i do play with HTC diamond, u will feel no regret buy iPhone. Camera although is 2.0, but the quality is quite good compare to those camera 2.0. Still will choose iPhone in future .. Apple the best. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(LaskarCinta @ Nov 17 2008, 07:53 PM)
wow, u r so matured, and the answer is really spectacular.

"my friend saw on the net...", "my friend already tried it...", "my friend bla bla bla...". u cant even look to it on the internet by yourself. impressive. welcome to the internets. *yawn*

please, dont spam with one word comment.
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btw thanks to malayneum for reviving this old thread. it's a great place for discussion on disadvantages of iPhone.
people from Apple are really reading this to improvise their product ...................... Nope.
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guys look @ this

10 things 3G iphone is still missing

http://www.pcworld.com/article/148250/10_t...ll_missing.html
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QUOTE(malayneum @ Nov 17 2008, 03:06 PM)
iPhone dont have bluetooh. sad.gif
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SMS forwarding, MMS I guess we still can have it with 3rdparty app.
The thng I can't stay now is the missing of synch wireless.

Bcos I have a practise that turn on my laptop and synch all calendar items once reach the office.

Actually, it not really bothers me, Jst I am so lazy to plug the cable tongue.gif
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all things got disadvantge, but y look at the disadvantage when it hv more advantage than flaws? Sure it can't mms, limited usage of bluetooth (can't copy files), can't forward SMS, no 3g video call etc... Just ask urself would u buy this for the disadvantage reason? Maybe we see wht other ppl don't see.

Disadvantage or not, now more ppl switching 2 iPhone. Now thts some fact tht we should think about...
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it's all up to user what kind of phone feature whey want, if iphone fulfill they requirement, then get it.if not find other phones.

it is a common sense people.
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QUOTE(ff8ong @ Apr 26 2008, 10:12 AM)
Can Iphone set our custom ringtone yet?
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I am not a iphone user, so i got a question...
The bluetooth in iphone cant transfer file, then what is the use of that bluetooth?
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I am not a iphone user, so i got a question...
The bluetooth in iphone cant transfer file, then what is the use of that bluetooth?
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for bluetooth headset. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ZhaoYun @ Nov 18 2008, 11:11 AM)
Whoever tell you that should jump down from KLCC.
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i understand its copyright issue, but its just very frustrating you cant bluetooth any files from laptop. sad.gif
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QUOTE(malayneum @ Nov 19 2008, 01:47 AM)
i understand its copyright issue, but its just very frustrating you cant bluetooth any files from laptop.  sad.gif
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QUOTE(feizaiII @ Nov 18 2008, 04:19 AM)
Some basic features is not there,
eg:
1. SMS cannot forward msg, msg count.
2. No MMS
3. No AD2P (Copyright matters)
4. No Bluetooth file sharing  (Copyright matters)
5. Mono sound
6. Soft Sound Volume

But yet, there is alot advantage, eg easy install 3rd party software thru Cydia and Appstore which other phone is hardly competite it. Touchscreen is very very responsive, i do play with HTC diamond, u will feel no regret buy iPhone. Camera although is 2.0, but the quality is quite good compare to those camera 2.0. Still will choose iPhone in future .. Apple the best. thumbup.gif
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Actually u can foward sms..add contact number...and msg count using biteSMS..
Soft sound volume..Actually the 3G speakers ady is quite a big improvement than the 2G one..
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QUOTE(wilsoncvt @ Nov 19 2008, 02:06 AM)
Nearly all laptops have wi-fi these days so it really shouldn't be an issue because the iPhone can transfer files via w-fi connection.
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plus not all laptop got bluetooth. plus bt itself is not giving desirable transfer rate.

mmm...btw this is the only surviving revived thread so far. nice.

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why insist using bluetooth?
wifi is good already.

now, nearly every place have wifi.
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Glass panel is pretty easy to break,if you drop it...it also cost a huge amount of money to fix certain part...
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About the Wifi....
KL hv free Wifi by P1 Wimax rite?
Iphone can detect the signal?
Iphone can use P1 Wimax?
Very curious...hv't try yet....
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QUOTE(Coner32 @ Nov 19 2008, 03:48 PM)
About the Wifi....
KL hv free Wifi by P1 Wimax rite?
Iphone can detect the signal?
Iphone can use P1 Wimax?
Very curious...hv't try yet....
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The free wifi is actually by DBKL supported by P1 Wimax. It's called Wireless KL (Google it) and yes iPhone can detect and use it as long as you have signed up for the free account on the website.
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bluetooth now come standard with all laptop.

still, can't sync the iphone with the laptop with bt is lame. >.<
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QUOTE(Coner32 @ Nov 19 2008, 03:48 PM)
About the Wifi....
KL hv free Wifi by P1 Wimax rite?
Iphone can detect the signal?
Iphone can use P1 Wimax?
Very curious...hv't try yet....
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here got wimax already?
i didn't notice.
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QUOTE(TeK_KeN @ Nov 19 2008, 06:01 PM)
here got wimax already?
i didn't notice.
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Yes already here but i think is own so called WiMAX.. Malaysia Always Boleh! shakehead.gif
Refer here: http://www.p1.com.my/
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But p1 is not forever free...must sing up to use.
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QUOTE(ff8ong @ Nov 19 2008, 11:30 AM)
Glass panel is pretty easy to break,if you drop it...it also cost a huge amount of money to fix certain part...
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For iPhone 3G, the LCD panel and glass panel are separated. So if you break the front glass, you just have to replace the front glass. Unlike iPhone 2G which you gonna have to replace both.
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QUOTE(jaybee @ Nov 19 2008, 05:23 PM)
bluetooth now come standard with all laptop.

still, can't sync the iphone with the laptop with bt is lame. >.<
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Bcos not all phone got wifi. Nowdays, bt just for using wireless mouse and keyboard. Bt old tech la.
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QUOTE(V3000 @ Nov 19 2008, 07:43 PM)
Yes already here but i think is own so called WiMAX.. Malaysia Always Boleh!  shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(baretta @ Nov 19 2008, 08:03 PM)
Bcos not all phone got wifi. Nowdays, bt just for using wireless mouse and keyboard. Bt old tech la.
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agreed!and BT is slow slow then wifi

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err.. im using an omnia.. half of my guts tells me that i shud change to iphone..half of it remain omnia..

errr.. im confuse la....
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QUOTE(mosh @ Dec 16 2008, 06:27 PM)
err.. im using an omnia.. half of my guts tells me that i shud change to iphone..half of it remain omnia..

errr.. im confuse la....
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get 2 phone then. 1 omnia and 1 iphone.
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hehehe...in the end "there will be only one"...!
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QUOTE(mosh @ Dec 16 2008, 06:27 PM)
err.. im using an omnia.. half of my guts tells me that i shud change to iphone..half of it remain omnia..

errr.. im confuse la....
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So what do you think of the Omnia compare to Iphone ?? I tried before the omnia touch screen.. I think is pretty bad compared to Iphone...
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QUOTE(mosh @ Dec 16 2008, 06:27 PM)
err.. im using an omnia.. half of my guts tells me that i shud change to iphone..half of it remain omnia..

errr.. im confuse la....
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Omnia = Windows Mobile...
iPhone = Apple software smile.gif

For my personaly , iPhone is *MUCH* more smooth compare with Windows mobile
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QUOTE(TeK_KeN @ Nov 19 2008, 10:00 AM)
why insist using bluetooth?
wifi is good already.

now, nearly every place have wifi.
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I assume you know some function just can't work over wifi, are you ?

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