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[review]Xigmatek Achilles, against rival Thermalright
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TSDaRkSyThE
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Apr 25 2008, 08:42 PM, updated 17y ago
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Xigmatek Achilles S1284
Background: Purpose and targets of becoming one of the worlds leaders in thermal PC Industry were set for Xigmatek Co. Ltd in 2005, the founding year! To ensure reaching this project aims, Xigmateks management followed up with hard work, experiences and customer friendly business style.
Honing one of the world's most efficient manufacturing operations, Integration Presence in major economic regions, being tied up with most important strategic alliances between suppliers and academia and further majority investments in R&D are some of Xigmateks aggressive incensement strategies.
Combining the cream of product designers, R&D engineers and technical people (main team in Germany) Xigmatek is proud and full of confidence to offer excellent quality products and service to cover the customers requirements and demands.
Within the standard channels as the consumer market and the distributing electrical appliances, Xigmatek will keep on focusing on development and set up even new sales channels to comply ever-changing demands and requirements.
Several years of experiences company background in Thermal IT industry provides our customer the best, reliable, environmental and performing Thermal/Cooling Systems including excellent Service to fulfill global users and customers demands.
Introduction: Xigmatek is a relatively new name when we hear it. they have only been in our market for months now but indeed they have left a mark. Xigmatek has produced many heatsinks ranging from CPU coolers, VGA coolers and others. Also, they have sold many patents to other companies such as OCZ.
Xigmatek utilizes the H.D.T technology to conduct heat in a very different yet efficient manner.The concept of H.D.T. technology is that the heat-pipe contacts with CPU directly and absorbs the heat of CPU directly, that different from other cooler product which use the base block to absorb the heat (it means that Heat-pipe can't absorb the Heat efficiently). However, the H.D.T. technology used in cooler is providing outstanding performance and efficiency.
QUOTE Achilles S1284, a new generation H.D.T. cooler, once again proves that it is possible to do concurrently both good-looking and performance. Its H.D.T. technology and 4pcs Φ8 heat-pipe makes Achilles a remarkable performing and special fan design makes it to reach a silent level. With LED lights, transparent fan, Anti-vibration rubber, Push-pin/Clip for Intel & AMD, Achilles S1284 offers not only friendly, reliable, easy to install, but also powerful performance for users. Features:
QUOTE -With H.D.T. technology and 4pcs Φ8mm heat-pipe, Achilles S1284 creates most efficient heat conduction and outstanding cooling performance.
-Achilles S1284 combines transparent colorful fan, Nickel Heat-pipe (Φ8mm), 4pcs white LED lights on fan, anti-vibration rubber and Spoiler.
-With anti-vibration rubber and Push-pin/Clip for Intel & AMD application design, Achilles S1284 provides users not only silent level but also easy and quick installation. -4pcs Φ8mm high performance U type heat-pipes. -H.D.T. (Heat-pipe direct touch) technology. -Transparent colorful housing and blade. -Nickel Heat-pipe. -4pcs white LED. -Anti-vibration rubber design. -Efficient PWM fan. -Light weight. -Easy installation. -LGA775 push-pin / AM2 & K8 tool-less clip.
This post has been edited by DaRkSyThE: Apr 26 2008, 03:03 PM
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TSDaRkSyThE
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Apr 25 2008, 08:52 PM
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Test Bed: Processor: Intel C2D X6800 Extreme @ 3.6GHz @ 1.42 vcore Motherboard: Asus Maximus Formula SE RAM Module: Team Xtreem DDR2 Special OPB Edition (Micron D9GMH) Graphic Card: Foxconn 8800GT Power Supply Unit : Silverstone Decathlon 1200W Hard Disk: Western Digital 36Gb Raptor Operating System : Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2
Testing Materials Used : 1. Artic Cooling MX-2 2. Fan Supplied with Xigmatek Achilles
Testing Methods Used : 1. Each Heat Sink is tested twice(cool down is 5 minutes between each test), the average results is taken as the result. 2. The same amount and type of Thermal Paste used is kept constant for all Heat Sinks used 3. All Heat Sinks are tested with the same fans (excluding the Ultima 90i tested with a 90mm fan and the Water Cooling setup) 4. A Thermal Probe is placed at the edge of the CPU to retrieve the temperature. The Thermal Probe ensures accuracy in Temperature reading. 5. Load test were done by running ORTHOS Small FFT test priority 8 for 20 minutes. Ambient temp prior every test was be measured.
This post has been edited by DaRkSyThE: May 4 2008, 08:08 PM
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kmarc
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Apr 27 2008, 07:52 AM
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Nice review. However, I find the results a bit funny as the IFX-14  performs the same as the TRUE. Maybe a quad would show the true colours of the IFX-14?
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TSDaRkSyThE
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Apr 27 2008, 10:23 AM
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Apr 27 2008, 07:52 AM) Nice review. However, I find the results a bit funny as the IFX-14  performs the same as the TRUE. Maybe a quad would show the true colours of the IFX-14?  yeah i found it funny too, but i tested this config on my friends rig too, and the results were worst
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alive88
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Apr 27 2008, 12:15 PM
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got the achilles from ckhoong(thanks bro)..will conduct a review between tuniq tower 120 and this cooler on amd platform..
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overclockalbert
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Apr 27 2008, 04:26 PM
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from 3 to 4 H.D.T cooler, wonder will there be another increase of the amount of heat pipe from Xigmatek. maybe 6 HDT in the near future.
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tkh_1001
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Apr 27 2008, 06:17 PM
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QUOTE(overclockalbert @ Apr 27 2008, 04:26 PM) from 3 to 4 H.D.T cooler, wonder will there be another increase of the amount of heat pipe from Xigmatek. maybe 6 HDT in the near future. that one very hard oh... wonder how small the HDT gonna be if thats the case
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ham_revilo
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Apr 27 2008, 06:18 PM
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even 4 pipe for me is a lil too much edi... if 6mm and 4 pipe then it should be better i think as for intel proc, the area is a lil smaller but all and all maybe this cooler is meant for amd proc....
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likito
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Apr 27 2008, 07:29 PM
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QUOTE(overclockalbert @ Apr 27 2008, 04:26 PM) from 3 to 4 H.D.T cooler, wonder will there be another increase of the amount of heat pipe from Xigmatek. maybe 6 HDT in the near future. either increase area of surface processor or make heatpipe more tiny ..
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SlayerXT
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Apr 27 2008, 08:52 PM
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Going to show after lapping result?
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TSDaRkSyThE
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Apr 27 2008, 08:59 PM
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if you want me to lap it, i might  the base doesnt look like its totally flat haha
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kerryking
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Apr 28 2008, 12:32 AM
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NIce review bro, the base looks flat to me..
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tkh_1001
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Apr 28 2008, 01:25 AM
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QUOTE(DaRkSyThE @ Apr 27 2008, 08:59 PM) if you want me to lap it, i might  the base doesnt look like its totally flat haha waiting for ckhoong's approval?  time to unleash the true power !!!
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ham_revilo
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Apr 28 2008, 02:51 AM
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lapping indeed improve a lil... but im not sure bout s1284 la... for s1283, the temp decrease around 2c to 5c...
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sub_noob
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Apr 28 2008, 06:41 AM
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A nice review bro.. A good cooler for price/performance ratio..
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IcEMoCHa
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Apr 28 2008, 08:43 AM
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btw... why ifx-14 worst than ultra 120x?....
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TSDaRkSyThE
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Apr 28 2008, 09:14 AM
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Look at all my stars!!
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QUOTE(IcEMoCHa @ Apr 28 2008, 08:43 AM) btw... why ifx-14 worst than ultra 120x?....  i think its due to the sample i got. i noticed that it wasnt completely flat. hhmm, maybe i'll have a lapping party. lap all 4 heatsinks
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IcEMoCHa
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Apr 28 2008, 09:37 AM
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QUOTE(DaRkSyThE @ Apr 28 2008, 09:14 AM) i think its due to the sample i got. i noticed that it wasnt completely flat. hhmm, maybe i'll have a lapping party. lap all 4 heatsinks  haha.. that would be hardwork there...  i also notice something... ifx-14 hsf is very uneven... the middle part especially...
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TSDaRkSyThE
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Apr 28 2008, 10:15 AM
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QUOTE(IcEMoCHa @ Apr 28 2008, 09:37 AM) haha.. that would be hardwork there...  i also notice something... ifx-14 hsf is very uneven... the middle part especially... yeah, and actually this is something that i wanna share with all of you  when i installed the IFX-14 repeatedly, i noticed that the middle of the base keeps on changing colour. at first, i didnt understand why or how. later, when i whipped out some polishing compound and gave it a good polish, i noticed that the coloured part was exposed copper. thats why the results are like that. Makes sense no? http://www.xigmatek.de/product/accessory-c...dk-i7751_de.phpyeah anyways, this link shows the new bracket. something liek what ckhong has been doing all this while haha
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IcEMoCHa
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Apr 28 2008, 12:53 PM
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how much is the achilles?.. wondering if its cheaper than TR in a small or big margin...
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Downcast
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Apr 28 2008, 07:18 PM
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1 more cooler coming in.... XD
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tomatos
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Apr 28 2008, 08:12 PM
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Somehow those at XS states that TRUE performs better than the IFX-14.
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LExus65
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Apr 29 2008, 09:57 AM
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may be IFX14 exposing copper suppose to give better performance ??
quick go do lap party, we want to see more results......
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fuzore
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Apr 29 2008, 10:00 AM
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Anyone test it on AMD procs yet?...
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TSDaRkSyThE
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Apr 29 2008, 05:34 PM
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QUOTE(tomatos @ Apr 28 2008, 08:12 PM) Somehow those at XS states that TRUE performs better than the IFX-14. yeah thats why. plus i only used a 1 fan config on the IFX-14 QUOTE(LExus65 @ Apr 29 2008, 09:57 AM) may be IFX14 exposing copper suppose to give better performance ?? quick go do lap party, we want to see more results...... haha lapping party  i got classes whole week long, hope i can do it asap. QUOTE(fuzore @ Apr 29 2008, 10:00 AM) Anyone test it on AMD procs yet?...  someone has posted up results on this
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emilz
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Apr 30 2008, 01:57 AM
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with this comparison better choose ximantek cause cheap compare to thermalright ifx rite
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TSDaRkSyThE
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Apr 30 2008, 06:00 PM
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QUOTE(emilz @ Apr 30 2008, 01:57 AM) with this comparison better choose ximantek cause cheap compare to thermalright ifx rite yeah but im going to lap both heatsinks to see their true performance soon
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IcEMoCHa
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Apr 30 2008, 07:19 PM
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i think ifx will win by a little after lapping...
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tomatos
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Apr 30 2008, 08:16 PM
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Most heatsinks, if not almost all heatsinks performs different than other heatsinks of the same model by maybe few degrees. Their build are not consistent. Some may perform better than the others.
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vassalle
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May 9 2008, 09:18 AM
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Hi, just wondering whether you used the original push-pin mounting mechanism with the achilles? Or did you use a modded one? Planning to get one but will have to consider the cost of getting the bolt-on mounting as well. Thanks.
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sup3rfly
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May 10 2008, 09:10 PM
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QUOTE(zubai @ May 10 2008, 08:36 PM)
Which orientation is best for my setup? 2nd is better... fan blowing hot air from the heatsink and the fan at the back exhaust it out  didnt notice that u have 2 more fans on top of ur casing... either way also can but i still think 2nd is better...the reason is b4 the "cold air" reaching to the hsf, its actually sucking some of the hot air from ur nb and ur gpu and then only blowing it to ur hsf...  btw the heatsink looks hot...how i wish i can get 1 to play with... hahaa This post has been edited by sup3rfly: May 10 2008, 09:42 PM
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syazone
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May 10 2008, 10:55 PM
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i wonder... why in this review show it perform poorer that its brother... s1283 http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?opti...=1&limitstart=5
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TSDaRkSyThE
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May 11 2008, 12:05 PM
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QUOTE(syazone @ May 10 2008, 10:55 PM) i wonder... why in this review show it perform poorer that its brother... s1283 http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?opti...=1&limitstart=5not sure but i didnt test with the red scorpion
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xen0
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May 11 2008, 12:16 PM
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QUOTE(syazone @ May 10 2008, 10:55 PM) i wonder... why in this review show it perform poorer that its brother... s1283 http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?opti...=1&limitstart=5someone said vendetta 2 better than xigmatek...so, its quite true
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syazone
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May 12 2008, 12:06 AM
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QUOTE(xen0 @ May 11 2008, 12:16 PM) someone said vendetta 2 better than xigmatek...so, its quite true  yeah... according to that review vendetta 2 perform better, its use same tech as xigmatek, HDT but quite dissappointed for s1284, lose to s1283 This post has been edited by syazone: May 12 2008, 12:08 AM
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zubai
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May 12 2008, 11:54 AM
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Anyone tried placing a 2nd fan at the achilles?
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Blood_Seeker28
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May 13 2008, 09:41 PM
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how much does it cost for this cooler? better than my IFX?? mayb wanna try this cooler after this..
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likito
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May 14 2008, 12:32 PM
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QUOTE(zubai @ May 12 2008, 11:54 AM) Anyone tried placing a 2nd fan at the achilles? extra cool 1-2c
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teamloks
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Aug 27 2008, 12:01 AM
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should i lapping or not yah for achiless?
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Silverfire
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Nov 29 2008, 05:09 PM
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How to lap a HDT heatsink?
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tkh_1001
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Nov 29 2008, 05:15 PM
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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Nov 29 2008, 05:09 PM) How to lap a HDT heatsink? lap it like u lap a normal heatsink... refer to the guide... u can start off with higher grit sandpaper like 800 or 1000 if u want.... This post has been edited by tkh_1001: Nov 29 2008, 05:15 PM
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kayef
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Dec 2 2008, 05:58 AM
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anyone used the screw kit for LGA775?Is the performance better?
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tkh_1001
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Dec 2 2008, 03:00 PM
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QUOTE(kayef @ Dec 2 2008, 05:58 AM) anyone used the screw kit for LGA775?Is the performance better? using it nao.... nothing much differenct tho.... just that it ensure that u will have a good contact when u use the SS kit
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dro
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Dec 3 2008, 12:09 AM
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lik me i prefer to use the SS kit straight away as it is really convenient especially if u're the type who takes it off often i once broke off 3 out off 4 push pin on my frens heatsink so dat was a valuable leason for me
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OC4/3
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Dec 3 2008, 02:31 AM
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QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ Dec 2 2008, 03:00 PM) using it nao.... nothing much differenct tho.... just that it ensure that u will have a good contact when u use the SS kit Also,ss plate easier to install or remove and won't broke pushpin Maybe got 1-2 C drop also lah but it is much better solution then the stupid pushpin
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Silverfire
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Dec 8 2008, 09:06 PM
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Just wanna share my results:
E8200 @ 3.2ghz 1.245vcore IP35P with stock heatsink Xigmatek Achilles with Crossbow Kit Tuniq TX-2 CM690 with trans side panel, all fan sockets fitted with Xigmatek 12cm XLF and rear of mobo tray fitted with Evercool 8cm*1.5cm fan
Lowest: 33'C (not mean) +5 = 37'C Highest: 46'C (not mean) +5 = 51'C
Mean value would be Lowest: 34.5'C +5 = 39.5'C Highest: 45'C +5 = 50'C
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teamloks
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Dec 10 2008, 06:23 PM
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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Dec 8 2008, 09:06 PM) Just wanna share my results: E8200 @ 3.2ghz 1.245vcore IP35P with stock heatsink Xigmatek Achilles with Crossbow Kit Tuniq TX-2 CM690 with trans side panel, all fan sockets fitted with Xigmatek 12cm XLF and rear of mobo tray fitted with Evercool 8cm*1.5cm fan Lowest: 33'C (not mean) Highest: 46'C (not mean) Mean value would be Lowest: 34.5'C Highest: 45'C where a picture bro? picture ?
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Slaymaster
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Mar 23 2009, 11:41 AM
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Hi. Wanna ask wether Xigmatek Achilles can fit into a Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R or GA-EP45-UD3L mobo?
This post has been edited by Slaymaster: Mar 23 2009, 11:55 AM
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ham_revilo
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Mar 23 2009, 09:56 PM
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imo shouldnt be a problem. coz i dont see anything blocking the mosfet heatsink. plus, with push pin or sskit, its alot easier too This post has been edited by ham_revilo: Mar 23 2009, 09:57 PM
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Slaymaster
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Apr 8 2009, 05:43 PM
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i am experiencing a problem where my mobo can only sometimes detects fan speed of the 12cm fan at 1300-1500rpm. most of the times it detects 0rpm. why is that? when i use the original intel stock cooler i have has no problem like this. seller said that its normal for fans like these to report 0rpm. anyone experiencing the same problem?
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TSDaRkSyThE
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May 10 2009, 02:20 PM
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QUOTE(Slaymaster @ Apr 8 2009, 05:43 PM) i am experiencing a problem where my mobo can only sometimes detects fan speed of the 12cm fan at 1300-1500rpm. most of the times it detects 0rpm. why is that? when i use the original intel stock cooler i have has no problem like this. seller said that its normal for fans like these to report 0rpm. anyone experiencing the same problem? what fans are you on?? does it support RPM sensing ?
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ZeneticX
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May 11 2009, 12:19 AM
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er how to mount a second fan to the archilles?i saw some ppl doing tht
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ham_revilo
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May 11 2009, 02:56 AM
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ May 11 2009, 12:19 AM) er how to mount a second fan to the archilles?i saw some ppl doing tht that you need to mod by yourself  i think the easiest way is to use cable tie
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ZeneticX
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May 11 2009, 06:05 PM
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any pic examples?no hard modding required right?only some tying or creativity?
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watanabe
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May 14 2009, 09:46 AM
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I got a question for all of you. Does this HSF fit in a middle tower case (about 20cm in width)?
I've been following this thread and it seems that you guys are using Achilles with Intel processor, which has smaller area of contact than AMD processor.
IMO, Achilles is more suitable for large area of contact due to it's 4 heat pipe design.
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TSDaRkSyThE
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May 14 2009, 12:02 PM
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QUOTE(watanabe @ May 14 2009, 09:46 AM) I got a question for all of you. Does this HSF fit in a middle tower case (about 20cm in width)? I've been following this thread and it seems that you guys are using Achilles with Intel processor, which has smaller area of contact than AMD processor. IMO, Achilles is more suitable for large area of contact due to it's 4 heat pipe design. well if you think about it, the HSF was built for all sorts of procs regardless of its size. true contact of all 4 pipes will be more effective on the larger proc but then again larger procs will probably put out more heat hence they need the extra conductivity. yeah this hsf should fit into your middle tower case
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watanabe
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May 14 2009, 12:57 PM
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Thanks for clarifying about the hsf.  Won't be hesitating to purchase it now.  My point is actually that smaller processor should benefit more of the younger brother S1283 with 3 pipes architecture. As all pipes will contact to the surface directly. Btw, I've seen a pic on Achilles after being installed to Intel Core 2 Duo Processor. Only half of the side pipe touches the processor's surface. I think this explains why so many reviews win the S1283 over the 1284 when their testbed are using Intel.
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wch5274
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Jun 4 2009, 09:56 PM
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QUOTE(lingloong @ Jun 4 2009, 11:09 AM) XIGMATEK is doing good job in providing great cooler @ affordable price for it's CPU and VGA Cooler like Achilles, Dark Knight, Red Scorpion and the Battle AXE  u r seller.. no wonder u know more.. ops.. forgot... i also buy accelero tt from u...
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pertonas
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Jun 4 2009, 10:02 PM
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QUOTE(lingloong @ Jun 4 2009, 11:09 AM) XIGMATEK is doing good job in providing great cooler @ affordable price for it's CPU and VGA Cooler like Achilles, Dark Knight, Red Scorpion and the Battle AXE  are you sure I very headache about their QC quality very very very http://www.xfastest.com/viewthread.php?tid...&extra=page%3D1see it yourself
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atomik
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Jun 4 2009, 10:07 PM
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QUOTE(pertonas @ Jun 4 2009, 10:02 PM) are you sure I very headache about their QC quality very very very http://www.xfastest.com/viewthread.php?tid...&extra=page%3D1see it yourself ergh, now i understand more about xigamtek QC quality is it other model face (like s1283, s1284 and so on) similar issue?
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pertonas
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Jun 4 2009, 10:12 PM
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QUOTE(atomik @ Jun 4 2009, 10:07 PM) ergh, now i understand more about xigamtek QC quality is it other model face (like s1283, s1284 and so on) similar issue? this issue keep me one month just change 10 pieces last last week
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shawn-mode
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Jun 4 2009, 10:12 PM
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I have used 1283, Achilles and now thor hammer. I have not face any quality issue so far.
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ZeneticX
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Jun 4 2009, 10:30 PM
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same with my s1284c,no problems and issues so far
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fool1988
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Jun 7 2009, 02:01 AM
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Is this cooler better than Sunbeam CCF?
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TSDaRkSyThE
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Jun 14 2009, 03:28 PM
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QUOTE(fool1988 @ Jun 7 2009, 02:01 AM) Is this cooler better than Sunbeam CCF? sunbeam should have an edge against this
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our_team89
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Jun 17 2009, 01:04 AM
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can someone give me idle n load temp for AMD Phenom x4 9550 2.2GHz when using this hsf..wan to compare with Hyper 212
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keeting89
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Jun 27 2009, 07:40 PM
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if the hsf comes with bad QC.. kenot changed directly form the shop? Xigmatek hsf is better compared to cooler master..Yeah
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