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Melfice
post Jun 1 2008, 02:38 PM

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does anyone here using DFI Mobo with Genie Bios in it ?? .. damn i got hard time to understand every single thing of it sleep.gif ... anyone mind to teach me ?? .. wanted to OC my BE to 3.0 or 3.2 ...
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post Jun 1 2008, 02:48 PM

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that is pic of Genie Bios .. sleep.gif

which 1 is Vcore ? .. CPU VID ?

DRAM config page - we will leave this for its own subsection.
LDT and PCI Bus control - defaults here are all you need
PCI Device control - here you find the switch for ULI raid and SATA setup off the South Bridge.All sata controls and the onboard LAN's enable or disable.

Overclocking features


FSB Bus Frequency - Otherwise known as HTT Bus frequency, this is where we tweak up Bus speed.
LDT/FSB Frequency Ratio- Here we set the LDT multiplier. Remember CPU speed is worked out from the LDT bus speed, CPU multiplier and the LDT ratio.
CPU/FSB Frequency Ratio - commonly known as the CPU multiplier, here we usually down clock the multiplier so that we ran ramp up the HTT frequency.

RD580 HT PLL speed - The RD580 chipset has 2 modes for setting the clock on the Hypertransport speed, normal(LOW) and High speed.
Sub 250HTT running LOW speed is just fine, over 250 choose HIGH speed

HT Bus NMOS Drive Strength, HT Bus PMOS Drive strength 0 to 31 - These options cover the drive for the send and recieve functions of the Hyper transport bus.
For high LDT overclocking 25 or higher may be needed, I use 31 on both options when pushing 300X5LDT. If you are not interested in LDT overclocking remember the board will do around 1200HT easy so you should only ever need to set either 5X or 4X for the LDT multiplier and leave the drive strengths at the default of 5

HTBus Reciever Impedance 0 to 31 This option controls the impedance the board sets to counter signal reflection on the RD580 chipset. SO, as you clock higher you may need to increase the value higher. I have tested at 5 and it does seem ok for most overclocks, if you are ramping up the LDT you may find upping this value gets you a higher stable overclock.

Between 5 and 10 seems to be the settings to test, 10 actually gets me the best clocks with 2gig kits.

CPU HT Bus Drive strength Weak or Strong options.
for high LDT Bus overclocking choose Strong
K8 Cool n Quiet.....if overclocking best to leave this disabled.

Voltage Controls


CPU Vid Options here depend on the max VID your CPU will allow, its usually 2 options above the normal Vcore the CPU runs at.
CPU VID Special Control Here you can set the over volt for the voltage you want to run on your CPU, remember to to keep this below 1.6V for most CPU's if you can, to much Vcore can damage your CPU.

Dram Voltage control Here we find the finest Vdimm control seen on any motherboard. Dependant on the Powersupply voltages to your mothertboard you may see voltages actually measured on the board higher than you set in bios, as a rule the voltage on the board is usually 3 options higher than you set in bios, IE, 2.6 in bios will give 2.65V on the motherboard....try to keep this in mind

SB PCIE Voltage
- this option in reality is the SouthBridge Vcore voltage.A slight bump will allow for higher PCIE overclocks and can aid in getting your general overclocks stable
NB Analogue Voltage - ???
LDT Bus voltage - when overclocking the LDT bus you will need to tweak this voltage higher, small jumps here, don't ram the voltage
NB Core Voltage - vcore for the Northbridge, high LDT and PCIE overclocking gains from a bump in voltage here.

taken from ocztechnologyforum.com

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post Jun 1 2008, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(Shah_15 @ Jun 1 2008, 02:50 PM)
increase the CPU/FSB Frequency ratio to X 16 and lower the FSB Bus Frequency to 200MhZ. You will get 3.2GhZ. Your Vcore already enough.
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wow thank .. goin to try it now tongue.gif

QUOTE(sarahlah @ Jun 1 2008, 02:51 PM)
wah the bios.. interesting and pening..
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haha ya ... that why i had very tough time understanding it ... bought BE almost a month nvr OC it ... sad.gif
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post Jun 1 2008, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(Shah_15 @ Jun 1 2008, 02:57 PM)
the Vcore already fine. 1.4V can run 3.2GhZ pretty stable.


Added on June 1, 2008, 2:58 pmBTW, Melfice, try at your own risk. I just suggest you from my knowledge.
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sorry to say that screenshot is not same as my Genie Bios ... ==" got many version oo .. wait i find new screenshot

QUOTE(digswell @ Jun 1 2008, 02:59 PM)
hey Dram voltage 2.78V ....what ram is da ?? DDR 1 ??
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ekk sleep.gif that jz a example ... tongue.gif
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post Jun 1 2008, 03:04 PM

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there you go !! ... wont be any mistake coz i find using " Genie Bios 790FX " keyword .. tongue.gif tongue.gif
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post Jun 1 2008, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(sarahlah @ Jun 1 2008, 03:02 PM)
from his siggy he using ballistix tracer..

edited : i thought that is ur bios..  blink.gif
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haha , itz not my bios .. sorry blush.gif


QUOTE(Shah_15 @ Jun 1 2008, 03:07 PM)
Your Vcore already fine. Just increase the CPU Clock Ration to 16x. Try at your own risk.
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errr , already did that jz now .. but turn out got BSOD on my booting screen to my windows ...


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post Jun 1 2008, 03:18 PM

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>HT Link Control:

HT Link Width......................... - 16 bit
HT Frequency.......................... - 800 MHz
IH Flow Control Mode.................. - Disabled
HT Link Tristate...................... - Disabled
2x LCLK Mode.......................... - Disabled
Unit Id Clumping...................... - Disabled
>CPU Feature:

NPT Fid Control....................... - x10
Virtualization........................ - Enabled
AMD K8 Cool&Quiet Control............. - Disabled

>DRAM Configuration:

MCT Memory Timing.................... - Manual
Maximum Latency...................... - 8ns
2T Mode.............................. - Auto
Cas Latency Time..................... - 5
Pre Charge Delay (tRAS).............. - 12
DRAM RAS# Precharge.................. - 5
DRAN RAS# to CAS# Delay.............. - 5
Bank to Bank Cmd (TRRD).............. - Auto
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay.............. - Auto
TRTP................................. - Auto
Write Recovery (TWR)................. - Auto
Write-Read Command (TWTR)............ - Auto
TRFC0................................ - Auto
TRFC1................................ - Auto
TRFC2................................ - Auto
TRFC3................................ - Auto
Trdrd................................ - Auto
TrwtT0............................... - Auto
Twrrd................................ - Auto
Twrwr................................ - Auto
CS/ODT Pin Fine Delay................ - Enabled
Bank Swizzle Mode.................... - Enabled
Auto Tweak Performance............... - Enabled
Optimal Performance Mode............. - Enabled

>PWM Settings:

PWM Control.......................... - Enabled
CPU VID Control...................... - 1.40625v
CPU Vid Special Add.................. - Auto
CPU NB Vlotage Control............... - Auto
CPU NB Vid Special Add............... - Auto
DRAM Voltage Control................. - 2.12v
SB PLL 1.2V Voltage.................. - 1.20v
NB Core Voltage...................... - 1.20v
NB PCI-E Voltage..................... - 1.250v
NB HT Voltage........................ - 1.20v

Genie BIOS Settings:

Spread Spectrum................ - Disabled
CPU Host/HTT Clock................... - 340MHZ
CPU Host/HTT Boot Up Clock.............. - 280MHZ
CPU Host/HTT Adjust Gap..................... - 5
PCI-E Clock.................... - 100MHZ
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Example wad inside the Bios ! tongue.gif

i think i nid to bring my laptop upstairs ... ==" using 1 computer is pain in da ass ...

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post Jun 1 2008, 03:27 PM

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weh dun quarrel le sleep.gif ... ok now using lappie .. i turn my desktop to BIOS .. easier to answer all ur quess ...

CPU Core Voltage 1.31V ( I hav no idea whr to change it )
DRAM Voltage 1.93V

CPU HOST/HTT Clock 200mhz

CPU HOST/HTT Boot Up Clock 200mhz
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post Jun 1 2008, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(sarahlah @ Jun 1 2008, 03:27 PM)
the performance of the proc depends on its batch too bro..  laugh.gif
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ermm .. i think BE 5000+ is all the same .. tongue.gif

Zzz now dam confused rclxub.gif

CPU CLOCK Ratio ?? ... set to Auto lol

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post Jun 1 2008, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(sarahlah @ Jun 1 2008, 03:44 PM)
haha.. aiya why fight2 here..
chill chill.. wheres malfice anyway ?
suddenly silent..

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here i am .. i watching u guyz quarrel lol ... tongue.gif tongue.gif

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aaa there


Added on June 1, 2008, 3:49 pmthat mine own bios config okay .. not example sleep.gif


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post Jun 1 2008, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(digswell @ Jun 1 2008, 03:59 PM)
Why so hard to oc Black Edition ?????????????????

Black Edition is design for eazy overclock

So juz increase the multipier to 16x and vcore around 1.4 to 1.45
and disbale CnQ ,,,thats all
other thing like HT link mutipier or wat else thing  leave it to auto or default setting
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i know .. i got see Multipier and Vcore on other bios mobo .. but not this one ... DFI Genie is abit confusing ler sleep.gif maybe they change the original meaning . ? i cant find place to change vcore ...
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post Jun 1 2008, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(digswell @ Jun 1 2008, 04:17 PM)
enter inside the PWN setting there
should got CPU VID control ..change it to 1.4 or 1.45
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PWM Setting got CPU VID Special Add

it using "mV"

+ 25.0mV
+ 50.0.mV
+ 75.0mV

and so on =="
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post Jun 1 2008, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(mr_habuk @ Jun 1 2008, 04:39 PM)
dude, try multiplier 12x250
boot up clock left at 200..

CPU VID special add..the ori will come with phenom..
with X2 u need to plus it with current vcore...
example: 1.29V + 0.05v = 1.34v..

Dram left it at 2.2v
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ermm i add the CPU VID Special ADD ( 175.0mV )
then CPU CLOCK RATIO x15

now it be 3.0ghz already ..

SYSTEM 54'C
CPU 45'C
CHIPSET 48'C

system temp is Mobo or proc ?
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post Jun 1 2008, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(mr_habuk @ Jun 1 2008, 04:55 PM)
nah...u don't need that high...
try my setting..u'll see the different.. tongue.gif

increasing ur multiplier will effect ur ram performance..
see the table on the 1st page...
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hw many mV i wan to add for the CPU Special ADD ? ... waaa all tis thing sooo pening .. @_@

ermm .. u said (CPUCLOCKRATIO ) Multpier 12x250 ? 250 is CPU HOST/HTT Clock ??

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post Jun 1 2008, 10:11 PM

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Orthos running stable at this config ( 3Hours )

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post Jun 1 2008, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(Lacus @ Jun 1 2008, 10:20 PM)
screenshot too small lar bro =.=" so 3.0 so far no problem..wanna try 3.2Ghz?
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picture updated ~ ~ ... sorry tongue.gif
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post Jun 2 2008, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(casperito @ Jun 2 2008, 04:52 AM)
*off topic*
seems that ur using CF...
mind sharing ur 3DMark score with me??
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there you go .. tongue.gif

quite low oo ..
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post Jun 3 2008, 01:45 AM

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QUOTE(casperito @ Jun 3 2008, 01:42 AM)
hehehe.. i dun believe also...
just for fun onli...
i rather test on games...

but when u tried it and ur score is kinda low, at least u can try to find out wat make the score low...
in my case, i found out that my proc bottleneck my CF...
but at least, in games it doesn't show any signs of bottlenecking so i dun care much la.. ehehehe...
juz wondering onli.. ehehehe  smile.gif
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haha .. im not satisified le .. why other with same hardware can get higher scores .. ==" jz wondering too ... rclxub.gif
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post Jun 3 2008, 01:53 AM

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QUOTE(casperito @ Jun 3 2008, 01:52 AM)
since x2 5000+ BE can OC to 3.3ghz...
try it out... and see whether proc @ 3.3 still bottleneck the CF....
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haha , nid to wait for proper cooling now using NucleaTec only ... waiting my money to grab San Ace or Sunon ... and some ram cooler ...
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post Jun 3 2008, 02:18 AM

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QUOTE(casperito @ Jun 3 2008, 01:57 AM)
skip the ram cooler... crucial non tracer one are not that hot... u'll be wasting ur money onli... unless u want to go crazy ram speed @ crazy vdimm... u can get that one later on... mine are unuseable coz my hsf block the rams... T_T...
get the TRUE 120 that lehteck selling la... dang cheap... free suscool fan summore.... ehehehe...


Added on June 3, 2008, 1:59 am

err... i dun understand???  blink.gif  sweat.gif
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using TR120E ... no proper 120MM FAN le ==" .... Crucial Tracer Ballistix .. the LED 1 la .. dam hot -__- and im using it rite now

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