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post Apr 24 2008, 12:05 AM, updated 18y ago

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Show your SuperPi 32M, Orthos (Blend) [>1 hour] or OCCT with CPU-Z overclocked screenshot [CPU and Memory] thumbup.gif wub.gif

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Processor Model | LYN Nick | Mobo Model | Ram Type | Ram Speed | Ram Timing | Cooler Model


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AM2/AM2+ SPI 1M Records

x2 6000+ F3 Windsor

23.937 | rasyid | 3480MHz 290x12 | Biostar TA770 A2+ | 2x1GB Crucial Ballistix Tracer | 1160MHz @ 5-5-4-12-24-2T | Stock Mod
24.625 | sempronic | 3360MHz 280x12 | Biostar TA770 A2+ | 2x2GB Crucial Ballistix | 1120MHz @ 5-5-5-15-22-2T | ThermalTake Big Typhoon VX

x2 5000+ G2 Brisbane

26.282 | mr_habuk | 3458MHz 266x13 | DFI Lanparty DK 790FX M2RS | 2x1GB Crucial Ballistix | 988MHz @ 5-5-5-12-24-2T | Tuniq Tower 120
27.062 | digswell | 3344MHz 223x15 | Biostar TA770 A2+ | 2x1GB Aeneon Value | 836MHz @ 5-4-4-3-11-1T | CoolerMaster Hyper TX2
27.297 | kitsuna | 3310MHz 300x11 | Abit AN9 32x | 2x2GB Crucial Ballistix | 1100MHz @ 5-5-5-15-24-2T | CoolerMaster GeminII
27.375 | lengchai86 | 3286MHz 253x13 | Biostar TA770 A2+ | 2x1G OCZ Reaper | 939MHz @ 5-5-5-15-23-2T | ThermalTake MaxOrb
27.483 | muh_is | 3344MHz 223x15 | Biostar TA770 A2+ | 2x1GB Kingston Value | 836MHz @ 5-4-4-12-14-1T | Tuniq Tower 120
27.547 | fuzore | 3301MHz 330x10 | Gigabyte GA-M57SLI-S4 | 2x1GB Crucial 10th Anniversary | 1100MHz @ 5-5-5-15-18-2T | Xigmatek HDT S-1283 Red Scorpion
27.781 | sannielyk | 3391MHz 226x15 | Abit KN9 Ultra | 4x1GB Kingston Value | 848MHz @ 5-5-5-15-21-2T | ArcticCooling Freezer 64 Pro
27.787 | xwteoh | 3289MHz 286x11.5 | Biostar TA770 A2+ | 2x1GB Kingston Value | 940MHz @ 5-5-5-15-21-2T | Xigmatek HDT S-1283

x2 4800+ G2 Brisbane

31.153 | ck_tonny | 2992MHz 239x12.5 | Abit AN52S | 2X1GB Patriot Value | 855MHz @ 5-5-5-16-21 2T | Stock

x2 4400+ G2 Brisbane

28.719 | lengchai86 | 3117MHz 283x11 | Biostar TA770 A2+ | 2x1GB Crucial Ballistix | 890MHz @ 5-4-4-12-24-1T | Artic Freezer 64 Pro

x2 4200+ F2 Windsor

27.860 | digswell | 3080MHz 280x11 | Biostar TA770 A2+ | 2x1GB Team Elite | 1026MHz @ 5-5-5-16-21-2T | Mod Stock

x2 4000+ G1 Brisbane

29.500 | za_az | 3108MHz 296x10.5 | Biostar TF7050-M2 | 2x1GB Kingston Value | 888MHz @ 5-5-5-15-22-2T | CoolerMaster Hyper TX AMD
30.875 | alive88 | 2909MHz 277x10.5 | Biostar TF590SLi | 2x1GB Corsair XMS2 | 968MHz @ 5-4-4-13-23-2T | Stock
31.470 | FuiLo | 2924MHz 279x10.5 | Biostar TF 6100 | 2x1GB Corsair Value | 834MHz @ 4-4-4-12-18-2T | Cooler Master Hyper TX

x2 3800+ F3 Windsor

23.953 | alive88 | 3529MHz 352x10 | Biostar TF590SLi | 2x1GB Crucial Ballistix | 1176MHz @ 5-5-4-3-11-2T | Tuniq Tower 120
24.985 | muh_is | 3367MHz 337x10 | Biostar TA770 A2+ | 2x2GB Crucial Ballistix | 1122Mhz @ 5-5-5-14-2T | Tuniq Tower 120
25.172 | jackdante22 | 3400MHz 340x10 | Biostar TA770 A2+ | 2x2GB Crucial Ballistix | 1133MHz @ 5-5-5-15-20-2T | Thermalright Ultra 120 eXtreme
25.469 | ah_khoo | 3405MHz 340x10 | Biostar TA690G | 2x1GB Crucial 10th Anniversary | 1136MHz @ 5-5-5-15-21-2T | Scythe Katana II
25.969 | ongbs | 3430MHz 343x10 | Asus M2N-E | 2x512MB Micron | 1142MHz @ 5-6-6-10-16-2T | Custom WC
26.203 | nik0ns | 3300MHz 330x10 | Biostar TA690G | 2x1GB Crucial 10th Anniversary | 1100MHz @ 5-5-5-15-21-2T | Tuniq Tower 120
27.160 | Liuteva | 3308MHz 330x10 | Gigabyte GA-MA78GM-S2H | 2x1GB Corsair XMS2 | 827MHz @ 4-4-4-12-16-2T | Thermaltake Big Water 735
27.515 | byfc2010 | 3255MHz 326x10 | Biostar T6100 | 1x1GB Crucial 10th Anniversary | 1085MHz @ 5-5-4-3-11-2T | ThemalTake Venus
27.880 | -pWs- | 3208MHz 320x10 | DFI Inf nF4 UltraII-M2 | 4x1GB Crucial 10th Anniversary | 640MHz @ 3-3-3-9-12-2T | Noctua NH-12UF
27.968 | rainingzero | 3240MHz 324x10 | Asus M2N-E | 2x1GB Micron | 810MHz @ 5-5-5-15-25-2T | HP-1204

x2 3800+ F2 Windsor

31.015 | rainingzero | 2800MHz 280x10 | Asus M2N-E | 2x1GB Micron | 700MHz @ 4-4-4-12-21-2T | AC Freezer 64 Pro
31.828 | za_az | 2700MHz 270x10 | Biostar TF7050-M2 | 2x1GB Kingston Value | 867MHz @ 5-5-5-15-21-2T | CoolerMaster Hyper TX AMD

x2 3600+ G1 Brisbane

26.922 | dblooi | 3249MHz 342x9.5 | Biostar TF7050-M2 | 2x512MB Crucial Value | 1083MHz @ 4-4-4-3-11-2T | Chilled Water Cooling
29.859 | -pWs- | 3109MHz 345x9 | DFI Inf nF4 UltraII-M2 | 4x512MB Corsair XMS2 | 888MHz @ 5-5-5-12-18-2T | Noctua NH-12UF
30.421 | afosz | 3002MHz 316x9.5 | Biostar TA690G | 4x1GB Mushkin Value | 750MHz @ 5-5-5-18-21-2T | Cooler Master GeminII
32.484 | awh85 | 2850MHz 300x9.5 | Biostar TA690G | 2x1GB Crucial Value | 950MHz @ 5-5-5-15-21-2T | Stock

x1 3000+ F2 Orleans

33.094 | za_az | 2601MHz 289x9 | Biostar TF7050-M2 | 2x1GB Kingston Value | 867MHz @ 5-5-5-15-21-2T | Stock


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Guides

DDR2 RAM overclocking - the confusion, Tighter timings or higher frequency: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/627600
Basic guide - DDR2 ram overclocking: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/626450
Basic guide - Overclocking a 939/AM2: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/625156

These guides credit to our very own forummer: kmarc

Motherboard BIOS

Biostar TA690G [Modded] : http://www.lejabeach.com/Biostar/TA690G
Biostar TA770 A2+ [Modded] : http://www.lejabeach.com/Biostar/TA770A2+
DFI Inf UltraII-M2 [Modded] : http://www.lejabeach.com/DFI/dfinfultra2-m...fultra2-m2.html

Flash at your own risks. laugh.gif

Useful Threads

LYN DDR2 discussions : http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/298646
LYN Super PI 1M Top 10 (DDR2) : http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/321443

OCMania : http://www.ocmania.com/

Useful Softwares

AMD Overdrive: http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/1012/...ive_2.0.17.html
SpeedFan: http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php
Coretemp: http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/
HW Monitor: http://www.cpuid.com/hwmonitor.php
CPU-z: http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php
ClockGen: http://www.cpuid.com/clockgen.php
MemSet: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=92190
Prime95: http://www.mersenneforum.org/showthread.php?t=8981

Courtesy of ah_khoo


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post Apr 24 2008, 12:07 AM

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Hi Guys,

Please continue here. Database editting now. smile.gif

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post Apr 24 2008, 12:10 AM

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am i 1st ?? hehe rclxms.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(digswell @ Apr 24 2008, 12:05 AM)
Yup is normal ...but if got better 1 n/b cooler then tat will very nice
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owh thanks!maybe will find one after i got my bling2 stuff for my casing.just bought raidmax sagitta 2 rclxm9.gif

QUOTE(Lacus @ Apr 24 2008, 12:05 AM)
ok lor...My be quite hot compare to urs tongue.gif
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u made me feel relieved tongue.gif

QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Apr 24 2008, 12:06 AM)
58'c is too high for my likin. if possible try to keep it under 55'c.  smile.gif

try to reapply thermal compound & reseat d chipset cooler, somethin is wrong there i think considerin d temp...  sweat.gif
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nb got thermal compound meh?hehe

p/s : im the second one? biggrin.gif
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post Apr 24 2008, 12:13 AM

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New thread edy,AMD thread moving too fast becos alot of us talking trash thing whistling.gif (Off topic in other means) tongue.gif
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Alright. No more off topic.
I will monitor time to time.

Thanks

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well duh, my proc much higher clock speed doh.gif NB? Uses the same thermal compound. Get Tuniq TX2 lor...Cheap and good biggrin.gif
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for the biostar 770 mobo, is auto overclockin safe?
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QUOTE(TMTANWHACKY @ Apr 24 2008, 12:21 AM)
for the biostar 770 mobo, is auto overclockin safe?
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im using it now.the v12.and my temp is quite ok i think.to me la.33 idle and 40 load
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Auto Overclocking is not really safe d.Becos sometimes it doesnt adjust the voltage and timing correctly = =.Manual OCing is the best.

And bro pWs on the 4000 X2 G1 table why got 2 AMDAthlon names?= = 1 only enough and u should remove le cos i no longer 4000 X2 user. thumbup.gif

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wah... now got new thread already. Congrats.

Very nice database you got there. Thank you for your great afford.. notworthy.gif

I no longer active as overclocker, tweaker or bios modders. I had other job i have to concentrate in. I hope you guys enjoy overclocking and help each other out solving any problem you encounter. Be the best in the world. Good Luck

Sincerely,
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p/s : You will remember me, if you are there, back in Abit NF7-S Rev2.0 days... nod.gif

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QUOTE(tictac @ Apr 24 2008, 12:58 AM)
wah... now got new thread already. Congrats. Very nice database you got there  notworthy.gif
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When is yours coming? Waiting for u to get 9850 together. tongue.gif
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just in case u miss out my post last time, here it is...updating my superPI 1m result... smile.gif

27.968s | X2 3800+ | F3 | 3240Mhz | rainingzero | Asus M2N-E | Micron D9DPN 2GB | 810MHz | 5-5-5-15-2T | HP-1204

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waa .. new thread ... hope can post new result in this thread .. still no time to play these days ... maybe next week when my holiday starts will post new result ..

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V8 ? Congratulations on V8. We sure have lotsa friendly and nice AMD overclockers family here.

Keep up the good work bro -pWs-.
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V8 edi rclxms.gif


bro pws, in case you missed, My updates icon_rolleyes.gif

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24.985s | x2 3800+ F3 | muh_is | 3367MHz 337x10 | Biostar TA770 A2+ | 2x2GBCrucial Ballistix | 1122Mhz @ 5-5-5-14-2T | Tuniq Tower 120

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22m 19.750s | X2 3800 F3 | 3315MHz | muh_is | Biostar TA690 A2+l | 2x2GB Crucial Ballistix | 1104 | 5-5-5-15-2T | Tuniq Tower 120


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@Pws ..

this is my ss for 32M .. long time no update already ... smile.gif
edy change mobo,ram and cooler since last super pi 32M ..



AMD athlon x2 6000+ | Rasyid | Biostar TA770 A2+ | 2x1GB Crucial Ballistix Tracer | 825MHz @ 5-5-5-18-24-2T | Thermalright IFX-14


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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Apr 24 2008, 12:07 AM)
Hi Guys,

Please continue here. Database editting now. smile.gif

-pWs-
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it's V8 edi..but still no news bout B3..haih.. unsure.gif
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Wahhh...happy..hapy..v8 alredy.. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif but no new result from me yet... sweat.gif
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congrats pWs for keeping this thread manage....and to all AMD lovers....keep keeping this thread alive!!!!!! rclxms.gif rclxms.gif thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(tictac @ Apr 24 2008, 12:58 AM)
wah... now got new thread already. Congrats.

Very nice database you got there. Thank you for your great afford..  notworthy.gif

I no longer active as overclocker, tweaker or bios modders. I had other job i have to concentrate in. I hope you guys enjoy overclocking and help each other out solving any problem you encounter. Be the best in the world. Good Luck

Sincerely,
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p/s : You will remember me, if you are there, back in Abit NF7-S Rev2.0 days...  nod.gif
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i wont forget Abit NF7-Sv2 bios Blackmantaray whistling.gif whistling.gif is a very good mod bios rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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hello,
today i will get another 4000+ for playing.. sponsor by someone..
will start the not so extreme volt later..
will keep update.. long last with AMD

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4000+ +crucial 10th 2x1gb +ta690g +TTBTVX n later maybe up to modded WC
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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Apr 24 2008, 12:31 AM)
Auto Overclocking is not really safe d.Becos sometimes it doesnt adjust the voltage and timing correctly = =.Manual OCing is the best.

And bro pWs on the 4000 X2 G1 table why got 2 AMDAthlon names?= = 1 only enough and u should remove le cos i no longer 4000 X2 user.  thumbup.gif
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Thanks for reminding. Will delete one of them. smile.gif

QUOTE(tictac @ Apr 24 2008, 12:58 AM)
wah... now got new thread already. Congrats.

Very nice database you got there. Thank you for your great afford..  notworthy.gif

I no longer active as overclocker, tweaker or bios modders. I had other job i have to concentrate in. I hope you guys enjoy overclocking and help each other out solving any problem you encounter. Be the best in the world. Good Luck

Sincerely,
tictac  icon_rolleyes.gif

p/s : You will remember me, if you are there, back in Abit NF7-S Rev2.0 days...  nod.gif
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For the sake of LYN whistling.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

QUOTE(mizivincible @ Apr 24 2008, 02:03 AM)
V8 ? Congratulations on V8. We sure have lotsa friendly and nice AMD overclockers family here.

Keep up the good work bro -pWs-.
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QUOTE(sempronic @ Apr 24 2008, 09:02 AM)
congrats pWs for keeping this thread manage....and to all AMD lovers....keep keeping this thread alive!!!!!! rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  thumbup.gif
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No me the only one giving effort smile.gif
All AM2 Overclocking fellows are giving their effort including you. wub.gif wub.gif

-pWs-
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Apr 24 2008, 11:58 AM)
Thanks for reminding. Will delete one of them. smile.gif
For the sake of LYN  whistling.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
Tenkiu
No me the only one giving effort smile.gif
All AM2 Overclocking fellows are giving their effort including you.  wub.gif  wub.gif

-pWs-
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QUOTE(mr_habuk @ Apr 24 2008, 12:02 PM)
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hmmm..just realize a change on bro -pWs- siggy..laugh.gif
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whistling.gif ya la i didnt realize it untill u said so....
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Hmm..i also just notice,but nvm let he have fun with Intel first whistling.gif.
Now still thinking how to find $$ on Deneb tongue.gif
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Alright Guys.
We keep to the topic. smile.gif

Thanks

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i don't recal X3 got B3.. isit for high line only?

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hello guys..
go some question here..

i try to adjust my ram timing using memset.. but after reboots, it hang after log in to windows.. any idea why ?

thanks
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hello guys..
go some question here..

i try to adjust my ram timing using memset.. but after reboots, it hang after log in to windows.. any idea why ?

thanks
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u not set it properly.. that's why..
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well i just change the MAL to 9 only.. not other settings..
then i click apply and save and exit..

thats all
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well i just change the MAL to 9 only.. not other settings..
then i click apply and save and exit..

thats all
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maybe other setting not same like default value when u save it..
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QUOTE(sarahlah @ Apr 24 2008, 01:03 PM)
well i just change the MAL to 9 only.. not other settings..
then i click apply and save and exit..

thats all
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i had the same problem like urs before tried to set in memset but cannot boot after that i had to uninstall memset from safemode before i could start windows again... tongue.gif
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haha.. so have u overcome the prob ?
last week i had this prob i formatted my pc.. sweat.gif


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QUOTE(sarahlah @ Apr 24 2008, 02:09 PM)
haha.. so have u overcome the prob ?
last week i had this prob i formatted my pc..  sweat.gif
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Wahhh..drastic action that one... sweat.gif when it happened on me last time i was thinking of formating also...cos cant load windows at all must hang after post but then i gatal2 try safemode can load so i uninstall memset and it solve my problem...after that i never tweak memory using memset again only in bios... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(tictac @ Apr 24 2008, 12:58 AM)
wah... now got new thread already. Congrats.

Very nice database you got there. Thank you for your great afford..  notworthy.gif

I no longer active as overclocker, tweaker or bios modders. I had other job i have to concentrate in. I hope you guys enjoy overclocking and help each other out solving any problem you encounter. Be the best in the world. Good Luck

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who'll forget tictac d great bios modder... notworthy.gif

QUOTE(davidletterboyz @ Apr 24 2008, 01:01 AM)
When is yours coming? Waiting for u to get 9850 together.  tongue.gif
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it's V8 edi..but still no news bout B3..haih.. unsure.gif
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erm.. if can oc well than good..
but i worry about the power usage..
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soooooo.... auto overclockin is not recommended?
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Yeap very not recomended.
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Yeap very not recomended.
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Last time when i use it..i dont know la so i set it to Extraordianry OC.It ran at 2.6Ghz however..the voltage at stock..= = keep getting BSOD..
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Now my motherboard... can go over 3.138 ghz, but sure ask me choose profiles when boot up, if times up no choose then go back default bios settings.. at 3.138, no asking..
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me gonna join u guys again, gonna oc a 3600 brisby soon tongue.gif
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hi all..
i would like to ask about mobo thing..is it Abit AN52S is a good mobo to OC?coz just now i tried to OC,now my current clock speed is 3111.5Mhz,Multiplier x13,Bus Speed 239.4Mhz and HT Link 1196.7Mhz..hmm i'm using 5000+ X2 brisbane.. sleep.gif" i want to up again the speed..but duno whether it will harm my mobo or not..its a 3 phases mobo..

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hi all..
i would like to ask about mobo thing..is it Abit AN52S is a good mobo to OC?coz just now i tried to OC,now my current clock speed is 3111.5Mhz,Multiplier x13,Bus Speed 239.4Mhz and HT Link 1196.7Mhz..hmm i'm using 5000+ X2 brisbane.. sleep.gif" i want to up again the speed..but duno whether it will harm my mobo or not..its a 3 phases mobo..
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So sorry. I haven update yet.
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Hope I can get it done by this week.
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QUOTE(SkywalkerxX @ Apr 25 2008, 12:50 AM)
hi all..
i would like to ask about mobo thing..is it Abit AN52S is a good mobo to OC?coz just now i tried to OC,now my current clock speed is 3111.5Mhz,Multiplier x13,Bus Speed 239.4Mhz and HT Link 1196.7Mhz..hmm i'm using 5000+ X2 brisbane.. sleep.gif" i want to up again the speed..but duno whether it will harm my mobo or not..its a 3 phases mobo..
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ok bro fuzore,redscorpion and pws..this is my performance..and the mobo that i;m usinng now..
erm..can i OC more higher AN52S mobo?i wana get 3.2Mhz at least..din try yet coz this evening got vlsi exam sleep.gif"

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ok bro fuzore,redscorpion and pws..this is my performance..and the mobo that i;m usinng now..
erm..can i OC more higher AN52S mobo?i wana get 3.2Mhz at least..din try yet coz this evening got vlsi exam sleep.gif"
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i think that's high enough for brisbane..
my friend using BE with the board also around that speed..
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this is my super pi 1m result..
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cannot reach 3.3Ghz ker bro..??
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dude..ur HT link is way over..try to make it nearest to 1K..
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i'm sure ur dfi also can do >1500 HT
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my ac freezer spinning at 100%.. hoho..

at 3.3ghz my super pi 1m is 26.812s..
oh.. i thought if higher ht is good..
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QUOTE(SkywalkerxX @ Apr 25 2008, 12:04 PM)
hmm this is my PI for 1M....

thx mr habuk for the BE information  smile.gif
monday i will test my proc for 3.2Ghz..hope it will be a successful result..
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Bro where is the ss missing la...
ur current clock is alredy good now with vcore 1.33 so i think 3.2ghz or 3.3ghz wont be a problem with ur mobo but vcore need to pump more la...
and what is ur current vdimm...play more with ur multiplier it's unlocked so play with it i hit my BE at 3.3ghz with x10 multiplier but remember ur ht link must not go pass 1+++ cos nvidia chip seems cant do like amd chips...
Arrr...sory but urs is BE or not... tongue.gif

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QUOTE(fuzore @ Apr 25 2008, 12:13 PM)
Bro where is the ss missing la...
ur current clock is alredy good now with vcore 1.33 so i think 3.2ghz or 3.3ghz wont be a problem with ur mobo but vcore need to pump more la...
and what is ur current vdimm...play more with ur multiplier it's unlocked so play with it i hit my BE at 3.3ghz with x10 multiplier but remember ur ht link must not go pass 1+++ cos nvidia chip seems cant do like amd chips...
Arrr...sory but urs is BE or not... tongue.gif
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my current vdimm is stock and my ram clock is 888mhz..
but my fren already tested this ram and this ram is capable to do 1000mhz @ cl5 @ stock vdimm...
btw im using x2 5000 normal edition not BE..
my current setting 240x13 as my mobo cannot handle high HTT
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in tat case, to all pros, how should i overclock my biostar 770 equipped wif X2 4200 wif a 650 extreme power psu and no additional fan? dun ask hardcore overclockin but i would like to maximise wat i have in d safest way possible. thx.
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QUOTE(SkywalkerxX @ Apr 25 2008, 12:27 PM)
sorry bro.. got some technical prob.. hehe btw ss uploaded..  rclxms.gif
my current vdimm is stock and my ram clock is 888mhz..
but my fren already tested this ram and this ram is capable to do 1000mhz @ cl5 @ stock vdimm...
btw im using x2 5000 normal edition not BE..
my current setting 240x13 as my mobo cannot handle high HTT
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try to oc with 2 ram onli..
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any sifu know about my mobo?

any mod bios can let me adjust v.core for my mobo 1 ar....>"<

currently waiting new psu n hyper TX to cont OC again....^^''
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QUOTE(fuzore @ Apr 25 2008, 03:31 PM)
He..he..sory bro tot u using BE there...but u might want to add more vcore if u want to have a stable 3.2-3.3ghz clock
as well as vdimm too...  biggrin.gif
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yeah..since my Vcore still stock..i will try pump the Vcore..let see whether this mobo can hold or not tongue.gif
but last nite..i tried pump Vcore till 1.45V but the mobo really cant operate in high HTT.. sad.gif
later i will try to change to biostar mobo..

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where have all the oc gurus gone ? hmm.gif
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holla.evryone..tired of srudying.now wanna see new OC from u guys..

@skywalker, good oc there..how far can ur team elite go?if im not mistaken, this ram perform good on intel platform, but i dun think it will be the same on amd platform
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QUOTE(alive88 @ Apr 26 2008, 12:14 AM)
holla.evryone..tired of srudying.now wanna see new OC from u guys..

@skywalker, good oc there..how far can ur team elite go?if im not mistaken, this ram perform good on intel platform, but i dun think it will be the same on amd platform
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but i think there will be some differences..coz ive tried my old xms on my fren intel rig, can do ddr1080..but on amd only managa ddr980(more loose than intel setting) hmm.gif
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QUOTE(alive88 @ Apr 26 2008, 12:14 AM)
holla.evryone..tired of srudying.now wanna see new OC from u guys..

@skywalker, good oc there..how far can ur team elite go?if im not mistaken, this ram perform good on intel platform, but i dun think it will be the same on amd platform
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thx,but my heart still not satisfied with the clock speed vmad.gif later i will try again..in the middle of exam now yawn.gif

for the ram...1000Mhz cl5 1.8V..but that is not the limit,lazy to push more than that..i will try later..
bout which proc the elite peform bettter,i think it is the same or small diff..see what bro digswell says,i just knew bout this..
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its like this..amd have on-die chip where it controls the memory from the proc..not like intel..so, the faster the clock, the harder for u to keep up with the ram speed..
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QUOTE(alive88 @ Apr 26 2008, 01:14 AM)
its like this..amd have on-die chip where it controls the memory from the proc..not like intel..so, the faster the clock, the harder for u to keep up with the ram speed..
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thats when u have to know how to fully utilized the bios setting...this is where u will learn how to tweak ur ram using the divider, according to which speed and which multiplier...
u may google around LYN ddr2 discussion..theres lots about it..icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(alive88 @ Apr 26 2008, 02:14 AM)
thats when u have to know how to fully utilized the bios setting...this is where u will learn how to tweak ur ram using the divider, according to which speed and which multiplier...
u may google around LYN ddr2 discussion..theres lots about it..icon_rolleyes.gif
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Anyone wanna try the Phenom 8650/8750?

If you have a mobo chip that can push HTT to 250, the later will run at 3Ghz stock volts, possibly even more.

It's definitely less TDP limited than its older brother, and hopefully enough for 3.3 stock topping.
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Anyone wanna try the Phenom 8650/8750?

If you have a mobo chip that can push HTT to 250, the later will run at 3Ghz stock volts, possibly even more.

It's definitely less TDP limited than its older brother, and hopefully enough for 3.3 stock topping.
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u got stock for us to test..??? i'll be the one pulling my hand out 1st..laugh.gif
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lolx i know u finding phenom now from your wts-dfi mr habuk haha
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lolx i know u finding phenom now from your wts-dfi mr habuk haha
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but found it edi..tricore only..
will be in test by monday hopefully.. thumbup.gif


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eh ? this monday ha mr_habuk ?
where do u bought it ?
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eh ? this monday ha mr_habuk ?
where do u bought it ?
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yeah agree agree.. head of the family ocer..
how much did u buy it ?
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wah tri-core..none of my fren using it here..so i duno the performance..habuk later post ur performance bout tricore here..btw,,u so fast get tri-core rclxms.gif i hope someday,amd will give a good pressure to intel like old days sad.gif
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now only 1 seller got ready stock.. 8650
rm575.. good price..
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QUOTE(sarahlah @ Apr 26 2008, 12:26 PM)
yeah agree agree.. head of the family ocer..
how much did u buy it ?
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same price in his sales..
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/652368

hmmm...coz i'm a little bit impatient so bought it neway..(btw nowan want my Dk)
just an advice..maybe u guys can wait it for a moment..
there're maybe a price cut after 9*50 series out.. sweat.gif
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yeah bro.. i got the same feeling too..

my next target will be 8750 and a new psu.. haha..
satisfied with bro db f3..
dont forget to show us ur result bro~!!
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tri core is around the corner..finally we can see a tri core perform.....
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hmm, price of tri and quad so close sweat.gif I rather go Quad tongue.gif...But then Quad and Tri cores's OC capability not that good right?
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QUOTE(Lacus @ Apr 26 2008, 01:54 PM)
hmm, price of tri and quad so close sweat.gif I rather go Quad tongue.gif...But then Quad and Tri cores's OC capability not that good right?
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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Apr 26 2008, 03:35 PM)
b3 tri core VS b2 quad core, i'll take d tri core at anytime bro...  wink.gif
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btw i saw one website doing a stable 3.0ghz on a phenom tri-core.. quite good i must say rclxms.gif ..
now waiting for amd to roll out an extremely ocable cpu like intel


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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Apr 27 2008, 01:11 AM)
nice clock there mate, mite as well lower down d ram multi & aim for ram cpu clock 1st...  smile.gif
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haha thx fren..hmm after finish my exam,i will try oc my ram gila..wanna c how far it can takes..then try wif super pi..
hmm ya..i;m thinking of lowering my ram multi..but this mobo ar,max htt is 260Mhz..ishh really really disappointed.. mad.gif
really jealous with biostar that can handle high htt..later wana sell this mobo to my fren for biostar brows.gif
but thats mean max cpu clock speed is 3380Mhz,wanna try whether it can pass wif 254x13=3302 or not..
but when i enter intel thread..their super pi really really made me jealous gila..amd engineer!show ur power!!!

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guys..had a problem here..can enibody tell why it happend to be BSOD when i've started my pc ?? i did clear cmos when i've installed this cripple core..do i need to reformat it back??
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QUOTE(mr_habuk @ Apr 27 2008, 09:56 AM)
guys..had a problem here..can enibody tell why it happend to be BSOD when i've started my pc ?? i did clear cmos when i've installed this cripple core..do i need to reformat it back??
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no need to reformat also suppose can log in windows....
Cmos not cleared properly maybe??

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QUOTE(mr_habuk @ Apr 27 2008, 09:56 AM)
guys..had a problem here..can enibody tell why it happend to be BSOD when i've started my pc ?? i did clear cmos when i've installed this cripple core..do i need to reformat it back??
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change proc only rite? usually it shouldnt bsod. But then again you are going from dualcore to 3 core. Maybe got some driver conflict there. Try booting in safe mode and uninstalling the processor driver.
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Guys I needed help. My current stock cooler with 120mm fan can't cope with 1.4V 2.4GHz (3800+ F2) heat, idle it reaches 42C, even Orthos 1 minute it rises close to 60C

So should I buy Brisbane cored X2 or CoolerMaster GeminiII?
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QUOTE(Najmods @ Apr 27 2008, 10:21 AM)
Guys I needed help. My current stock cooler with 120mm fan can't cope with 1.4V 2.4GHz (3800+ F2) heat, idle it reaches 42C, even Orthos 1 minute it rises close to 60C

So should I buy Brisbane cored X2 or CoolerMaster GeminiII?
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that normal for 3800 F2 i guess..go for F3 la bro instead of Brisby or GeminiII..can do 2.9 at stock vcore..

BTW i did managed to start-up in safe mode..but i couldn't remove anything since its in the safe mode..
is it anything to do with my current dual core optimizer..??
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QUOTE(mr_habuk @ Apr 27 2008, 10:39 AM)
that normal for 3800 F2 i guess..go for F3 la bro instead of Brisby or GeminiII..can do 2.9 at stock vcore..

BTW i did managed to start-up in safe mode..but i couldn't remove anything since its in the safe mode..
is it anything to do with my current dual core optimizer..??
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QUOTE(Najmods @ Apr 27 2008, 10:41 AM)
Where can I find F3 nowadays, especially the lower model one (below 5200+)? Its hard to find
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try pm bro dblooi..still have 2pcs 3800 F3 in his hand..

btw..it is really happened to be a crash on dual core optimizer..
managed to delete it on safe mode, than it only can start properly..

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QUOTE(mr_habuk @ Apr 27 2008, 10:44 AM)
try pm bro dblooi..still have 2pcs 3800 F3 in his hand..
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Alright, thanks for the info. I PM him and see whether still have stock or not smile.gif
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QUOTE(Najmods @ Apr 27 2008, 10:21 AM)
Guys I needed help. My current stock cooler with 120mm fan can't cope with 1.4V 2.4GHz (3800+ F2) heat, idle it reaches 42C, even Orthos 1 minute it rises close to 60C

So should I buy Brisbane cored X2 or CoolerMaster GeminiII?
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stock cooler, its normal. last time using Xp90 and Freezer 64 Pro, both manage to cool my 3800+ F2 2.8ghz@ 1.6v Vcore around 60'c full load.
just looks for cheap cooling solution is enough already... smile.gif

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QUOTE(rainingzero @ Apr 27 2008, 11:36 AM)
stock cooler, its normal. last time using Xp90 and Freezer 64 Pro, both manage to cool my 3800+ F2 2.8ghz@ 1.6v Vcore around 60'c full load.
just looks for cheap cooling solution is enough already... smile.gif
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How much Vcore does it take to reach 2.8GHz? And what mobo did you use?
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QUOTE(Najmods @ Apr 27 2008, 11:47 AM)
How much Vcore does it take to reach 2.8GHz? And what mobo did you use?
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i manage to hit 2.76GHz at 1.525v vcore. I manage to hit 2.8GHz at 1.575v last time but due to limitation of my cheapo kingston-chip ram, my system was not stable.

anyway, you can refer to this link tongue.gif

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mr_habuk..show some screenie lar..wanna see tricore perform
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Tricore. Nice... Request for some benchies xD wink.gif

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mr_habuk..show some screenie lar..wanna see tricore perform
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wa mr_habuk got tri core brows.gif

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Tricore. Nice... Request for some benchies xD wink.gif

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it's not a triple core..its just a 'cripple cor' laugh.gif hehe..
i don't have any benchmark application la..

check this out..

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QUOTE(camedemac @ Apr 27 2008, 12:03 PM)
i manage to hit 2.76GHz at 1.525v vcore. I manage to hit 2.8GHz at 1.575v last time but due to limitation of my cheapo kingston-chip ram, my system was not stable.

anyway, you can refer to this link tongue.gif

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry11320589
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Thanks for sharing the result smile.gif

BTW dblooi does have 2 more X2 3800+ F3, I still can't decide whether new cooler or new CPU unsure.gif anyone have any recommendation? Poison me tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Najmods @ Apr 27 2008, 11:47 AM)
How much Vcore does it take to reach 2.8GHz? And what mobo did you use?
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last time i set at bios 1.575v, but sometimes it show 1.6v blush.gif
using m2n-e...still using it untill now...so lazy to change other mobo...(no money too... laugh.gif laugh.gif )

better cooler arr...maybe u can try xigmatek or freezer 64 pro.

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QUOTE(Najmods @ Apr 27 2008, 07:17 PM)
Thanks for sharing the result  smile.gif

BTW dblooi does have 2 more X2 3800+ F3, I still can't decide whether new cooler or new CPU unsure.gif  anyone have any recommendation? Poison me tongue.gif
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even if u buy new cooler, u know that f2 aint gonna oc well..if f3, sure hit 2.9 wif stock vcore, means that u can still use ur stock cooler..still got more headroom for oc..but still, if u buy cooler, u still can use it for future upgrade, as the cooler can still be used..depends on how long u wanna use the pc..say if one year, better go buy f3..if only a month, but a cooler, then change proc later...icon_rolleyes.gif
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help me some1 wat should i put for my vcore ???
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Database Updated rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif

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QUOTE(alive88 @ Apr 27 2008, 09:20 PM)
even if u buy new cooler, u know that f2 aint gonna oc well..if f3, sure hit 2.9 wif stock vcore, means that u can still use ur stock cooler..still got more headroom for oc..but still, if u buy cooler, u still can use it for future upgrade, as the cooler can still be used..depends on how long u wanna use the pc..say if one year, better go buy f3..if only a month, but a cooler, then change proc later...icon_rolleyes.gif
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Hmm, good point. I don't upgrade often, everything now is quite adequate, although a bit CPU limited in benchmarks like 3DMark06. Alright I think I go with the F3 smile.gif
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hey najmods, u're here. Btw guys, can i ask wat makes a pc suddenly unbootable? Clear cmos also cannot. After that ok liao, but it says Cmos checksum bad.
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QUOTE(Lacus @ Apr 27 2008, 10:59 PM)
hey najmods, u're here. Btw guys, can i ask wat makes a pc suddenly unbootable? Clear cmos also cannot. After that ok liao, but it says Cmos checksum bad.
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Well, yeah, hello Lacus. I got what I want in audio segment, now getting back to overclocking waters after retire for about 2 years biggrin.gif

You experiencing cold boot issue? I got that sometimes too, bumping out the Vcore a little fixed it smile.gif
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MCP temp was about 80c+ (I remove the 8cm fan there coz it sorta makes my gpu heat up) Wats the normal temp for a mcp?
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thx...nice...i believe some of f3 user out there still stuck at final exam...
maybe no ocing result for the closes time...
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QUOTE(Lacus @ Apr 27 2008, 11:14 PM)
MCP temp was about 80c+ (I remove the 8cm fan there coz it sorta makes my gpu heat up) Wats the normal temp for a mcp?
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MCP? You mean the chipset? Where does this fan located? And what kind of software did you use?
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QUOTE(Lacus @ Apr 27 2008, 11:14 PM)
MCP temp was about 80c+ (I remove the 8cm fan there coz it sorta makes my gpu heat up) Wats the normal temp for a mcp?
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ur mcp temp can frying a egg
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software=Everest Ultimate. it's a normal casing fan. Put right under my gpu card. I Notice my pc totally sot jor after removing the fan doh.gif
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QUOTE(Lacus @ Apr 28 2008, 12:28 AM)
software=Everest Ultimate. it's a normal casing fan. Put right under my gpu card. I Notice my pc totally sot jor after removing the fan doh.gif
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Its overheating then, put back the fan. If not, buy a smaller fan smile.gif
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Well, i did. Now stressing the system on stock clockspeed. Any ideas if a hot mcp chipset will result in poorer system performance?
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hmm bros.i really have something that bothering me..if u can at inside the red box(not karoke place shakehead.gif ) the voltage seems really differ from what it should be..i need explanation on this..can some help me out?i just realized it just now since i bought the mobo several weeks ago.. hmm.gif like this i really scare to have very high clock speeds for my brisbane..

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that looks real bad..maybe ur mobo have faulty sensor, or everest got problem...try stress ur pc with everest system stability test..(located at the tool toolbar) and from there capture the ss of the voltages after 10 minutes of stressing
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QUOTE(SkywalkerxX @ Apr 28 2008, 02:56 AM)
hmm bros.i really have something that bothering me..if u can at inside the red box(not karoke place  shakehead.gif ) the voltage seems really differ from what it should be..i need explanation on this..can some help me out?i just realized it just now since i bought the mobo several weeks ago..  hmm.gif like this i really scare to have very high clock speeds for my brisbane..

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What currently everest version u using ??
From the ss show the sensor didnt detect ur mobo very correct .
try to use the latest version if u r using older version then version 4.50.1330
Last time i oso hv tis problem tooo .after using version 4.50.1330 ..all problem gone edy

Edit: i check back urs SS , ur everest version is 4.00.976 ...look like everest cannot read the sensor for new latest mobo .

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QUOTE(Lacus @ Apr 28 2008, 12:50 AM)
Well, i did. Now stressing the system on stock clockspeed. Any ideas if a hot mcp chipset will result in poorer system performance?
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Its the chipset, the one responsible of all of communication inside your PC, its like a highway/road linking from one place to another and controlled by this chip, try to imagine if the chip is damaged.....
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1st test on the toliman..still didn't able to stress it yet..
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QUOTE(digswell @ Apr 28 2008, 09:01 AM)
What currently everest version u using ??
From the ss show the sensor didnt detect ur mobo very correct .
try to use the latest version if u r using older version then version 4.50.1330
Last time i oso hv tis problem tooo .after using version 4.50.1330 ..all problem gone edy

Edit: i check back urs SS , ur  everest  version is 4.00.976 ...look like everest cannot read the sensor for new latest mobo .
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really??ok i'm downloading the 4.50.1330 now..btw,how u check my everest edition just on the ss?u really pro bro laugh.gif


QUOTE(alive88 @ Apr 28 2008, 03:40 AM)
that looks real bad..maybe ur mobo have faulty sensor, or everest got problem...try stress ur pc with everest system stability test..(located at the tool toolbar) and from there capture the ss of the voltages after 10 minutes of stressing
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ok i will test it again and post it here..but i have to wait the download finish first..test will new everest..



QUOTE(Najmods @ Apr 28 2008, 09:11 AM)
Its the chipset, the one responsible of all of communication inside your PC, its like a highway/road linking from one place to another and controlled by this chip, try to imagine if the chip is damaged.....
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hmm i dun think so because this mobo not even a month,if the chipset not working perfectly..can change meh??i tot all the chips soldered to mobo wafer..so it hards to change..


QUOTE(mr_habuk @ Apr 28 2008, 09:44 AM)
1st test on the toliman..still didn't able to stress it yet..
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haha nice habuk..what is the default clock speed of toliman?erm later after got stable overclockiing dun forget to post super pi 1m ok bro? biggrin.gif



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QUOTE(SkywalkerxX @ Apr 28 2008, 10:36 AM)
really??ok i'm downloading the 4.50.1330 now..btw,how u check my everest edition just on the ss?u really pro bro  laugh.gif
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its clearly stated in ur screenshot la bro... biggrin.gif

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show some benchmark la abg...wanna know the performance of the tri-core... smile.gif
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give the phenom a highest OC as it can go..then make a test run....
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QUOTE(SkywalkerxX @ Apr 28 2008, 10:36 AM)
really??ok i'm downloading the 4.50.1330 now..btw,how u check my everest edition just on the ss?u really pro bro  laugh.gif
ok i will test it again and post it here..but i have to wait the download finish first..test will new everest..
hmm i dun think so because this mobo not even a month,if the chipset not working perfectly..can change meh??i tot all the chips soldered to mobo wafer..so it hards to change..
haha nice habuk..what is the default clock speed of toliman?erm later after got stable overclockiing dun forget to post super pi 1m ok bro?  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(rainingzero @ Apr 28 2008, 10:46 AM)
its clearly stated in ur screenshot la bro... biggrin.gif

@mr_habuk
show some benchmark la abg...wanna know the performance of the tri-core... smile.gif
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QUOTE(sempronic @ Apr 28 2008, 11:02 AM)
@mr_habuk
give the phenom a highest OC as it can go..then make a test run....
i want to know.....kinda be poison....but need to see the result 1st....
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i'm still struggling here..suddenly got many other option in the BIOS..
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Ha..ha..bro@habuk now u have to study again this time paper Phenom tricore on DFI mobo better study smart not study hard rite icon_rolleyes.gif
now that u have tricore of cos la a lot more bios setting comes out now not only vcore need adjustment but NB SB FID and more2 need to adjust..... tongue.gif so keep up the good work bro.. thumbup.gif so whats the target for this paper 4 flat or 2 flat.... tongue.gif brows.gif
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QUOTE(rainingzero @ Apr 28 2008, 10:46 AM)
its clearly stated in ur screenshot la bro... biggrin.gif

@mr_habuk
show some benchmark la abg...wanna know the performance of the tri-core... smile.gif
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laugh.gif yalar..i din realize it..

hmm the prob kinda settled,thx bro zero biggrin.gif with 4.50.1330 i can see the mobo name under Sensors Properties hehe updated the new mobos.. but for +5V -12V it dun show..but i guess the +12V already ok,i assume other voltages also ok,thx bro! icon_rolleyes.gif

@bulanar -ur clock speed so fast 32.8GHz!intel terkejut tengok power amd nie hoho,correct it back bro icon_rolleyes.gif

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guys..i haven't run 3mark06 before, dont know bout the result.. blush.gif

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can compared it with anyone..?? CPU score only..
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QUOTE(mr_habuk @ Apr 28 2008, 12:24 PM)
guys..i haven't run 3mark06 before, dont know bout the result.. blush.gif

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can compared it with anyone..?? CPU score only..
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bro i think u the only one here with tricore now... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(fuzore @ Apr 28 2008, 12:29 PM)
bro i think u the only one here with tricore now... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(mr_habuk @ Apr 28 2008, 12:24 PM)
guys..i haven't run 3mark06 before, dont know bout the result.. blush.gif

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can compared it with anyone..?? CPU score only..
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3ghz stable or not?

>3500 cpu score is good la..
mine also less 2500

but why ur 3dmark06 is low.. my can get 10k edi..
if with that cpu i guess i can hit 12k..
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Yup kinda low ah 3dmark with that hardware.. Mine CPU with HD3850 can get 8k alredi.. weird ah..
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Well might have something wrong somewhere...
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3ghz stable or not?

>3500 cpu score is good la..
mine also less 2500

but why ur 3dmark06 is low.. my can get 10k edi..
if with that cpu i guess i can hit 12k..
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still didn't stress it yet..wanna tighten the timing 1st..

don't know, haven't run it before..
BTW mine using forsa 8800GT reference board only..
didn't clock anything before..
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isit something wrong with the driver or the cpu itself...

bios update?
eager to test in my machine.. but not in the oc mode nowadays..
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QUOTE(mr_habuk @ Apr 28 2008, 12:46 PM)
still didn't stress it yet..wanna tighten the timing 1st..

don't know, haven't run it before..
BTW mine using forsa 8800GT reference board only..
didn't clock anything before..
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Should get much higher ler, 88GT 512MB reference is still ok what comparing to my HD3850 256MB.... U should get like what 8tvt said ler.. Atleast 10k..
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QUOTE(mr_habuk @ Apr 28 2008, 11:32 AM)
what is this?? rclxub.gif
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CPU- N/b FID ...if i no wrong is the multipier setting for speed (bandwidth speed) ..something like adjust the speed between CPU and NB
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QUOTE(digswell @ Apr 28 2008, 01:04 PM)
CPU- N/b FID ...if i no wrong is the multipier setting for speed (bandwidth speed) ..something like adjust the speed between CPU and NB
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that setting just ignore it for this time being...

u also will facing something like "Ganged" and "unganged" for the RAM timing...i also not sure what it is....


Added on April 28, 2008, 1:40 pm@ habok.....

i want to see SuperPI lor....

se got diffrence or not??? brows.gif

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guess it don't have much different since PI calculate 1 core oni..

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32M succesfull...but still didn't try to lower down the vcore..vdimm..
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QUOTE(mr_habuk @ Apr 28 2008, 02:43 PM)
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guess it don't have much different since PI calculate 1 core oni..

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32M succesfull...but still didn't try to lower down the vcore..vdimm..
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Bro why not using the hyperPI ...
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QUOTE(fuzore @ Apr 28 2008, 03:08 PM)
Bro why not using the hyperPI ...
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QUOTE(mr_habuk @ Apr 28 2008, 03:11 PM)
Got 1x 2x 4x..no 3x..laugh.gif
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Ha..ha..no wonder la...no x3 why arr maybe coz AMD the only one with tricore rite biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(fuzore @ Apr 28 2008, 03:15 PM)
Ha..ha..no wonder la...no x3 why arr maybe coz AMD the only one with tricore rite biggrin.gif
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another ss for my superpi 32M ...
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QUOTE(mr_habuk @ Apr 28 2008, 02:43 PM)
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guess it don't have much different since PI calculate 1 core oni..

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32M succesfull...but still didn't try to lower down the vcore..vdimm..
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how far can u push the proc??
can go beyond 3.3ghz??

have u try it?
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QUOTE(sempronic @ Apr 28 2008, 03:52 PM)
how far can u push the proc??
can go beyond 3.3ghz??

have u try it?
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not yet..since met a problem at 270 before..now trying to make it stable at 3.0Ghz..that my target before..
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QUOTE(mr_habuk @ Apr 28 2008, 04:01 PM)
not yet..since met a problem at 270 before..now trying to make it stable at 3.0Ghz..that my target before..
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what the problem?
and BTW...how much for the proc?
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QUOTE(sempronic @ Apr 28 2008, 04:09 PM)
what the problem?
and BTW...how much for the proc?
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lack of knowledge maybe..hehehe..laugh.gif
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QUOTE(sempronic @ Apr 28 2008, 04:09 PM)
what the problem?
and BTW...how much for the proc?
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QUOTE(cloudwan @ Apr 28 2008, 04:49 PM)
Ya lor how much did u buy for the cripple core?? Tempted...  drool.gif
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what a nice OC and PI calculation bro sannie..i wish my proc is BE,coz my mobo only can hold max HT 260..highest i ever tested is 248..
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QUOTE(SkywalkerxX @ Apr 28 2008, 06:22 PM)
what a nice OC and PI calculation bro sannie..i wish my proc is BE,coz my mobo only can hold max HT 260..highest i ever tested is 248..
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nice oc there
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mr_habuk spi1m 3.0ghz is 27.xx..then sannylyk be 3.3 is also 27.xx but with 3.3..hmm..eventhough the ram speed is different, i think it shudnt differ much..
so tri core is good..how much u bought mr_habuk??
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QUOTE(mr_habuk @ Apr 28 2008, 02:43 PM)
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guess it don't have much different since PI calculate 1 core oni..

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32M succesfull...but still didn't try to lower down the vcore..vdimm..
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lolz why limit the HT Link to 1000MHz? laugh.gif
No point to buy am2+ proc and mobo in this way
Don't blindly apply am2 oc method to am2+ oc
Observe and think before you apply, oc wise wink.gif
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but ive seen one thing..this time got fsb:dram frequency..
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QUOTE(dblooi @ Apr 28 2008, 09:23 PM)
lolz why limit the HT Link to 1000MHz?  laugh.gif
No point to buy am2+ proc and mobo in this way
Don't blindly apply am2 oc method to am2+ oc
Observe and think before you apply, oc wise  wink.gif
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yalor...me also just notice it. try push to the maxx. usually mobo with 590 chipset and above got no prob with higher HT...
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do u mean 590 nvidia chipset?max 1500 only.. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(alive88 @ Apr 28 2008, 11:06 PM)
do u mean 590 nvidia chipset?max 1500 only.. laugh.gif
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http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=Atta...=post&id=398927

i also realize...here some reference....even i just use B2...the HTLink & NB i try go as far as possible..
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QUOTE(dblooi @ Apr 28 2008, 09:23 PM)
lolz why limit the HT Link to 1000MHz?  laugh.gif
No point to buy am2+ proc and mobo in this way
Don't blindly apply am2 oc method to am2+ oc
Observe and think before you apply, oc wise  wink.gif
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yes.. as Tony from XtremeSystem Quotes

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K10 has thrown a spanner in our K8 overclocking world...they are NOT the same!

To clock K10 HTT upwards you have to do the following.

1 Find the max NB core clock the CPU will run (this is the CPU NB)

2 Find the max core speed the CPU will run.

3 Set HT to be same or under CPU NB core clock speed.

If HT is higher than CPU NB clock the board will hang, if CPU NB core clock is to high the board will hang.


K10 was not designed to run massive HTT speeds, it was designed to be super efficient at lower HTT but with high CPU NB clock speed....so we all need the 9600BE (Black Edition) as this will have an unlocked CPU multi...so no need to push massive HTT, although upto 300 would be nice
plus, K10 has totally independent clock control over CPU-NB and CPU core. In the DFI bios you will see the following under CPU features.

CPU DID
CPU FID

CPU DID = multiplier divider
CPU FID = actual multi in HEX

I mapped some common values out for CPU muti.
HEX Multi
00 = 08
01 = 08.5
02 = 09
03 = 09.5
04 = 10
05 = 10.5
06 = 11
07 = 11.5
08 = 12
09 = 12.5
0A = 13
0B = 13.5
0C = 14 ETC

Now we have a CPU DID also, this can be 1,2,4,8,16

things get good from 11 onwards using the 2 4 8 or 16 dividers and ODD ratio's

setting 06 FID and 2 DID will give 5.5, setting 01 FID and DID2 will give 8.25 so yes you can have quarter multipliers also.

Remember DID1 will give FID/1=FID with no adjustment...2 4 8 16 give the special ratio's

Moving to NB FID and DID

NB DID is either 1 or 2


Hex NB Multi
00 = 4
01 = 5
02 = 6
03 = 7
04 = 8
05 = 9
06 = 10
07 = 11
08 = 12
09 = 13
0A = 14
0B = 15
0C = 16
0D = 17 ETC

Again we can DID or divide by 1 or 2...so 07HEX with DID2 will give 5.5 for the NB Multi

So how does this translate, well remember HTT is 200 by default so 01HEX=5X
5X200HTT=1000MHZ
02HEX=6X so 6x200 for 1.2GHZ etc

CPU NB and Link Multipliers are unlocked on ALL CPU's, there are rules though.

HT link speed can NOT exceed NB clock speed, but HT link can be lower than NB core clock.

NB Clock is what decreases L3 cache latency and so improves performance.

Overall HTT speed is dependent on many things, NB core clock, HT link and CPU multi, different configs give differing results..we just need to reasrch the best for now.

copied from Tony post in XtremeSystem
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=167977

i think these refer to those who uses DFI UT 790FX.. seems that the BIOS is quite.... difficult....

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lolz why limit the HT Link to 1000MHz?  laugh.gif
No point to buy am2+ proc and mobo in this way
Don't blindly apply am2 oc method to am2+ oc
Observe and think before you apply, oc wise  wink.gif
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i think these refer to those who uses DFI UT 790FX.. seems that the BIOS is quite.... difficult....
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i was actually skipping #1 in Tony list..as i still can't understand what he's telling..
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QUOTE(mr_habuk @ Apr 29 2008, 08:23 AM)
i was actually skipping #1 in Tony list..as i still can't understand what he's telling..
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i think wat he means is by setting up the DID and FID combination will make out the multiplier for the proc... i think la...
i onli have the mobo... if onli i can get the proc maybe i can figure out the actual function of the DID and FID....
even the NB also need to set up by combination... haiz...
ohh.. math... i hate math...

for example..

CPU FID HEX 08 = 12
CPU DID 01 = 1 so NO change to CPU FID as 12/1=12

CPU core speed 250HTT x 12 for 3000MHZ

its quite simple actually if u read it over....and over... and over.... and over again...
and i sacrifice my sleep for this...

the #1 step is Find the max NB core clock the CPU will run (this is the CPU NB)

i think he's talking about the HTT link or something like that...
try to look at the pic that he posted in the XS tread...

hmm.. current best batch for X4 9850 BE JAAFB AA 0810 BPMW @ 3.12ghz @ 1.32v on AIR.. nice...

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i wish all the am2+ setting listed on a table
playing with that number will consume alot of time and boring...
coz no much time to spend..
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Apr 29 2008, 10:25 AM)
i wish all the am2+ setting listed on a table
playing with that number will consume alot of time and boring...
coz no much time to spend..
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New bios setting with bundle phenom proc
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so bro digs oso got new phenom..brows.gif

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QUOTE(digswell @ Apr 29 2008, 11:35 AM)
New bios setting with bundle phenom proc
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Wahh.. shocking.gif bro u also got new phenom alredy arrr... drool.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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@digwell
What model is that?

P/S: Anyone interested in my 3800 F3? PM me. Special price for AM2's fellows. smile.gif

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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Apr 29 2008, 11:50 AM)
@digwell
What model is that?

P/S: Anyone interested in my 3800 F3? PM me. Special price for AM2's fellows. smile.gif

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pWs poison already... doh.gif
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his on intel.. syuh² hahaha..
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Heard that tricore not bad wor. Anyone hav it and oc??

QUOTE(sempronic @ Apr 29 2008, 11:56 AM)
hahahaha biggrin.gif

pWs poison already... doh.gif
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Where got sweat.gif sweat.gif laugh.gif

QUOTE(8tvt @ Apr 29 2008, 12:05 PM)
his on intel.. syuh² hahaha..
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Apr 29 2008, 12:07 PM)
Heard that tricore not bad wor. Anyone hav it and oc??
Where got  sweat.gif  sweat.gif  laugh.gif
Waaaa...but my heart still in AMD  whistling.gif  whistling.gif

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Just came back from extremeSystems forum phewww....so many 9850 BE users there feel jealous with them now... wink.gif
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QUOTE(fuzore @ Apr 29 2008, 11:38 AM)
Wahh.. shocking.gif bro u also got new phenom alredy arrr... drool.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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no got yet...juz show some bios option ...i still got a bit blur blur with the option


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so bro digs oso got new phenom..brows.gif
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Still wait for 9850 Black Edition

athough Ta770 can handle 9850 (125W) proc....but i still pening bout it..how long it can handle it ?? if can to oc for 24/7 usage

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QUOTE(digswell @ Apr 29 2008, 12:17 PM)

Still wait for 9850 Black Edition

athough Ta770 can handle 9850 (125W) proc....but i still pening bout it..how long it can handle it ?? if can to oc for 24/7 usage
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got someone selling alreadi in LYN @ RM899...
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QUOTE(casperito @ Apr 29 2008, 12:25 PM)
got someone selling alreadi in LYN @ RM899...
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is it from chiajack..??
if him, i'll already PM him bout it..
got no stock until 2nd week of mei..
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QUOTE(mr_habuk @ Apr 29 2008, 12:27 PM)
is it from chiajack..??
if him, i'll already PM him bout it..
got no stock until 2nd week of mei..
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adoi.. really aa... haiz..
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QUOTE(casperito @ Apr 29 2008, 12:29 PM)
adoi.. really aa... haiz..
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oit silap..he said that he only have 9600 BE in stock..
but been asking Kvncom and jefflai and cycom, they that said it only going to be available in 2nd week of may..
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QUOTE(mr_habuk @ Apr 29 2008, 12:27 PM)
is it from chiajack..??
if him, i'll already PM him bout it..
got no stock until 2nd week of mei..
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got my friend selling 9850 just RM770... brows.gif
ask him later got stock or not...
but habuk...u need to test the B3 fully...either it can outperform the X2 F3... hmm.gif

see my sig..

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found summthing just now..
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how to set the pcie clock to 100MHz at TA770A2 mobo?
coz i cant find where the setting is in bios...myB it use difrence name..anyone can help me with this

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QUOTE(mr_habuk @ Apr 29 2008, 12:49 PM)
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found summthing just now..
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somekind of bug maybe...
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QUOTE(mr_habuk @ Apr 29 2008, 12:49 PM)
found summthing just now..
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ur runnin it @ stock speed w/ that kinda voltage bro? shocking.gif

btw, can do me a favor by listin d cpu score for 3dmark 06 @ 3.0GHz? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Apr 29 2008, 12:58 PM)
ur runnin it @ stock speed w/ that kinda voltage bro?  shocking.gif

btw, can do me a favor by listin d cpu score for 3dmark 06 @ 3.0GHz?  biggrin.gif
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wondering if it got bug or it's summthing to do with the phenom.?? rclxub.gif
u guys can compared it my recent post..

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/680853/+140

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QUOTE(mr_habuk @ Apr 29 2008, 01:02 PM)
no la bro, was trying to pushed it 1st, later pull down the vcore..laugh.gif

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wondering if it got bug or it's summthing to do with the phenom.?? rclxub.gif
u guys can compared it my recent post..

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/680853/+140
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QUOTE(mr_habuk @ Apr 29 2008, 12:49 PM)
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found summthing just now..
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i think u shud try using AMD Overdrive...
im not sure whether AMD Overdrive support tri core...


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no got yet...juz show some bios option ...i still got a bit blur blur with the option


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Still wait for 9850 Black Edition

athough Ta770 can handle 9850 (125W) proc....but i still pening bout it..how long it can handle it ?? if can to oc for 24/7 usage
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the BIOS seems quite susah sikit la...

if ur going for BE, better u change ur board la... wait till price drop for the DK... hehehe

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Than better wait for the new SB700 chip mobo...
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Than better wait for the new SB700 chip mobo...
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rumor says d new 790fx boards will be equipped w/ SB750, but that was from fudzilla, most of their news are not so trustable. smile.gif


@ bro habuk

can try to run it @ 3.0GHz? lite oc can't see d diff leh... tongue.gif


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mind to ask, which board is the best in price and OC for BE 5000+ ? trying to bring the budget down but still has a little OC available, saw most of u using biostar, is biostar really good in OC? what about Abit?68SV?
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3dm buggy ler.. report the cpu speed incorrectly...

i wonder why 3d marks is alsmost same when using different cpu speed eventhough the cpu score is much more different?
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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Apr 29 2008, 02:39 PM)
rumor says d new 790fx boards will be equipped w/ SB750, but that was from fudzilla, most of their news are not so trustable.  smile.gif
@ bro habuk

can try to run it @ 3.0GHz? lite oc can't see d diff leh...  tongue.gif
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cannot reach 3.0 for now.. rclxub.gif

QUOTE(8tvt @ Apr 29 2008, 02:56 PM)
3dm buggy ler.. report the cpu speed incorrectly...

i wonder why 3d marks is alsmost same when using different cpu speed eventhough the cpu score is much more different?
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how to removed it??
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cannot reach 3.0 for now.. rclxub.gif
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how to removed it??
still donno.. i found 3dm vantage also report incorrectly..
maybe need hotfix.. for gpu driver as well..
all 3dm also need some patch on vista..
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QUOTE(mr_habuk @ Apr 29 2008, 03:19 PM)
cannot reach 3.0 for now.. rclxub.gif
how to removed it??
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last time when using 9500+ i thing got something need to be install to make the clock stay as u OC it but not stay in the window but it will make it default or lower the clock...
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bro habuk, try to install amd overdrive software, and see the clock speed at there.

and...try to run 3dmark vantage, and see ur cpu score tongue.gif
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hey guys.. 9850 BE have landed at lowyat..
the price about rm750..
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p/s: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=185909

Geez, this gets more enticing by the minute.

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it is enticing, and tempting drool.gif

is it yours?tried OC further?
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wah stable at 3300MHz..bro bleh pergi lebih jauh ke??
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QUOTE(alive88 @ Apr 29 2008, 07:48 PM)
it is enticing, and tempting drool.gif

is it yours?tried OC further?
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No, not mine. I'm on a lowly X2 that can't even get over 250HTT. laugh.gif
This is on Asus's Crosshair 2 Formula mobo, nForce 780a. The nForces seem better than the 790FX now, for OC that is.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=185909



DFI's M2RS 4 (+1?) phase power might be the cause of the Phenom 8750 not reaching 3Ghz steady though.


Now that the 9850's only RM7XX, I'm not too sure about the 8750 again. 9850 means OCing high with cheap RAM, something that gets forgotten when you step into keywords like E8400 and 4Ghz. laugh.gif
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AM2+ X3 8650 = 560
AM2+ X4 9550 = 610
AM2+ X4 9750 = 680
AM2+ X4 9600BE = 665
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Those Phenoms are really cheap.The price nearly to E8400,Q6600 and Xeon 3110.But it cant win on par..= =.So far Phenom X3 8750 could only beat those C2D in multitasking,multithreaded but not in games.Only SOME GAMES the X3 is better than C2D.
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Trust me, at 3Ghz or even 2.8Ghz, it's fast enough. It won't bottleneck 2 graphics cards.

And it whips the E8400 when you're actually trying to multitask, unlike the review environments where they have a clean copy of XP with virtually NOTHING running and therefore not measuring load balancing and all.
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QUOTE(X.E.D @ Apr 29 2008, 08:05 PM)
No, not mine. I'm on a lowly X2 that can't even get over 250HTT. laugh.gif
This is on Asus's Crosshair 2 Formula mobo, nForce 780a. The nForces seem better than the 790FX now, for OC that is.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=185909
DFI's M2RS 4 (+1?) phase power might be the cause of the Phenom 8750 not reaching 3Ghz steady though.
Now that the 9850's only RM7XX, I'm not too sure about the 8750 again. 9850 means OCing high with cheap RAM, something that gets forgotten when you step into keywords like E8400 and 4Ghz.  laugh.gif
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hey guy , i keep on failure during oc my rig , i'm using vista business . this problem make me crazy edy !!!

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maybe ur oc isn't stable yet. any ss of cpuz? might be easier for others to help
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Needed help from sifu here, Just now bought AMD Phenom 9750 and installed on my Biostar TA770 A2+. I got 2 Hard disk . So when booting detected AMD Phenom 9750 Quad-Core Processor but cannot boot to windows. (XP and Vista).

Message : AMD Data Change - update New Data to DMI

Then straight to Window Error Recovery and ask to select option such as boot in safe mode kind of thing. No matter what option i select the system will reboot and repeat the whole process. What is happening. Any one can help....Is it something to do with the mobo bios?

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QUOTE(bulma06 @ Apr 29 2008, 11:16 PM)
Needed help from sifu here, Just now bought AMD Phenom 9750 and installed on my Biostar TA770 A2+. I got 2 Hard disk . So when booting detected AMD Phenom 9750 Quad-Core Processor but cannot boot to windows. (XP and Vista).

Message : AMD Data Change - update New Data to DMI

Then straight to Window Error Recovery  and ask to select option such as boot in safe mode kind of thing. No matter what option i select the system will reboot and repeat the whole process. What is happening. Any one can help....Is it something to do with the mobo bios?

cry.gif
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Go to safe mode and unistall all the amd proc driver
if no...install a new fresh windows it must

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= =.For me if new processor i will format my comp.Will not format if Like changing from X2 4000 to X2 5000.Since Phenom is new architecture,i will format my comp.
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QUOTE(likito @ Apr 29 2008, 08:51 PM)
hey guy , i keep on failure during oc my rig , i'm using vista business . this problem make me crazy edy !!!

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i am using vista business too.

try to raise more vcore , cause i am @3.09Ghz with 1.47v vcore cry.gif

QUOTE(bulma06 @ Apr 29 2008, 11:16 PM)
Needed help from sifu here, Just now bought AMD Phenom 9750 and installed on my Biostar TA770 A2+. I got 2 Hard disk . So when booting detected AMD Phenom 9750 Quad-Core Processor but cannot boot to windows. (XP and Vista).

Message : AMD Data Change - update New Data to DMI

Then straight to Window Error Recovery  and ask to select option such as boot in safe mode kind of thing. No matter what option i select the system will reboot and repeat the whole process. What is happening. Any one can help....Is it something to do with the mobo bios?

cry.gif
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try to delete Amd Dual Core Optimizer software at safe mode.


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p/s: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=185909

Geez, this gets more enticing by the minute.
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Very nice vcore (1.428) at that speed 1! summore on vista drool.gif

QUOTE(X.E.D @ Apr 29 2008, 08:05 PM)
No, not mine. I'm on a lowly X2 that can't even get over 250HTT. laugh.gif
This is on Asus's Crosshair 2 Formula mobo, nForce 780a. The nForces seem better than the 790FX now, for OC that is.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=185909
DFI's M2RS 4 (+1?) phase power might be the cause of the Phenom 8750 not reaching 3Ghz steady though.
Now that the 9850's only RM7XX, I'm not too sure about the 8750 again. 9850 means OCing high with cheap RAM, something that gets forgotten when you step into keywords like E8400 and 4Ghz.  laugh.gif
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nforce mobo huh...quite afraid of their data corruption thinggy.. >.<

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QUOTE(pikacu @ Apr 30 2008, 01:28 AM)
nforce mobo huh...quite afraid of their data corruption thinggy.. >.<
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the data corruption thingy on on 790i chipset onli... dun think it will happen on the 780a
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hmm, 9750 is the 125w processor also right? Too bad, it might not work properly in either 770a or 780 chipset due to some power thing. I read this up somewhere..forgot where already..thats y they recommand 790 for phenom proc.
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QUOTE(casperito @ Apr 30 2008, 02:01 AM)
the data corruption thingy on on 790i chipset onli... dun think it will happen on the 780a
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oh , so it is safe to buy 780a mobo ah..hehe.

QUOTE(Lacus @ Apr 30 2008, 02:14 AM)
hmm, 9750 is the 125w processor also right? Too bad, it might not work properly in either 770a or 780 chipset due to some power thing. I read this up somewhere..forgot where already..thats y they recommand 790 for phenom proc.
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nope, the power problem thing is due to motherboard design itself, it has nothing to do with 780g / 770 chipset.

so far i know, only sapphire 780g mobo can fully support phenom 9850.

and...most of 790 mobo is phenom friendly brows.gif

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well, no 780 chipset can support ler i think...Wait let me dig up the source..it's due to some layout or something in the motherboard design..Many brands having this problem lar -.- Found it. It seems not all brand has the chipset to support 125w proc. amd-phenoms-hit-comptibility

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QUOTE(digswell @ Apr 29 2008, 08:13 PM)
From Low Yat @ Czone price

AM2+ X3 8650 = 560
AM2+ X4 9550 = 610
AM2+ X4 9750 = 680
AM2+ X4 9600BE = 665
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Argh...if i were a bit patient.. doh.gif (anybody who thinking going to buy x3 please inform me..u might save a bit..brows.gif)

QUOTE(bulma06 @ Apr 29 2008, 11:16 PM)
Needed help from sifu here, Just now bought AMD Phenom 9750 and installed on my Biostar TA770 A2+. I got 2 Hard disk . So when booting detected AMD Phenom 9750 Quad-Core Processor but cannot boot to windows. (XP and Vista).

Message : AMD Data Change - update New Data to DMI

Then straight to Window Error Recovery  and ask to select option such as boot in safe mode kind of thing. No matter what option i select the system will reboot and repeat the whole process. What is happening. Any one can help....Is it something to do with the mobo bios?

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dude...delete dual core optimizer file/folder in safe mode..
it's happend to me before..
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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Apr 30 2008, 01:07 AM)
= =.For me if new processor i will format my comp.Will not format if Like changing from X2 4000 to X2 5000.Since Phenom is new architecture,i will format my comp.
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I do not think you need to format. Correct if I am wrong. wink.gif

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QUOTE(mr_habuk @ Apr 30 2008, 08:07 AM)
Argh...if i were a bit patient.. doh.gif (anybody who thinking going to buy x3 please inform me..u might save a bit..brows.gif)

dude...delete dual core optimizer file/folder in safe mode..
it's happend to me before..
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Thx for all the sifu info, but i try to boot to safe mode also cannot, the system will restart and i try to boot to cd-rom first also cannot , blue screen error message appeared. cry.gif
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Thx for all the sifu info, but i try to boot to safe mode also cannot, the system will restart and i try to boot to cd-rom first also cannot , blue screen  error message appeared.  cry.gif
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then load on default..

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Yeap bro pWs,it is not really necessary to format unless we change mobo,but i feel i format better lol = =
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dude, clear cmos option 1st.
then load on default..
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Ok will do it tonight. Initially i though it is just install and play. From my previous experiance install CPU no need to change anything. And iam using AM2+ Mobo and the manufacturer confirm support Phenom processor. It really dont come into my mind that higher cpu got compatibility problem with my mobo. Dont tell me i need to sell my this mobo and buy another one.... icon_question.gif
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Have you tried to update to latest bios?Becos they manufacturere should provide AM2+ Processor enhancement compatibility.

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Have you tried to update to latest bios?Becos they manufacturere should provide AM2+ Processor enhancement compatibility.
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I know, but the issue now is that i cannot boot into window. I downloaded a patch from biostar website. But how to install. Worst case scenario i need to borrow another processor to access to window and install the patch....walau ehhh doh.gif
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= =.Try clear CMOS first.cannot work try format?Or enable Virtualization Technology in BIOS?= =
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QUOTE(bulma06 @ Apr 30 2008, 10:27 AM)
I know, but the issue now is that i cannot boot into window. I downloaded a patch from biostar website. But how to install. Worst case scenario i need to borrow another processor to access to window and install the patch....walau ehhh doh.gif
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Juz remember it
Might to know ur Ta770 currently bios version ??
try to flash to the latest 1 A78XA328.BST if u still using old version bios
At least A78XA125.BST or latest it must

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QUOTE(alive88 @ Apr 29 2008, 07:48 PM)
it is enticing, and tempting drool.gif

is it yours?tried OC further?
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QUOTE(digswell @ Apr 29 2008, 07:56 PM)
So So tempting  drool.gif and so so piosoning  brows.gif
Vcore so low .. wat is temp for idle and load ??
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QUOTE(SkywalkerxX @ Apr 29 2008, 07:59 PM)
wah stable at 3300MHz..bro bleh pergi lebih jauh ke??
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QUOTE(X.E.D @ Apr 29 2008, 08:05 PM)
No, not mine. I'm on a lowly X2 that can't even get over 250HTT. laugh.gif
This is on Asus's Crosshair 2 Formula mobo, nForce 780a. The nForces seem better than the 790FX now, for OC that is.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=185909
DFI's M2RS 4 (+1?) phase power might be the cause of the Phenom 8750 not reaching 3Ghz steady though.
Now that the 9850's only RM7XX, I'm not too sure about the 8750 again. 9850 means OCing high with cheap RAM, something that gets forgotten when you step into keywords like E8400 and 4Ghz.  laugh.gif
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[System detail]

cpu voltage : 1.432v
ram voltage : 2.1v
HTT & SB voltage : Auto

ram divide : 1066
timing : 5-5-5-15-2T unganged mode
else timing : Auto

cpu ratio : x16.5
fsb : 201Mhz
CPU-NB width : up 16 , down 16
HTT : Auto (x10) 2000Mhz
Processor Downcore : Disable

CPU : Phenom 9850 BE (code : 0810APMW)
Mobo : Asus CROSSHAIR2 FORMULA
ram : Crucial PC8500 Ballistix Tracer 1GB
vga : ASUS 9800GX2 Stock Clock & Cooling
HDD : Hitachi 250GB SATA2
Power : OCZ PowerStream 520W SLI
Cooling Device : Exos 2.5 + D-TEK & 80mm FAN x2 & 60mm FAN


not so low.. the vcore might be error in cpuz whistling.gif
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Guys are we now in the phenom season now... rolleyes.gif but too bad dont have the funding too grab one... sweat.gif
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I think i found the problem already.... cut from biostar Global website


1 Will my motherboard support AMD Phenom AM2+ CPU?
There are four Biostar motherboard models will be able to support AMD Phenom AM2+ CPU.

TF570SLI A2+, TF560 A2+, TF520 A2+, TA770 A2+

1. Please update MB BIOS to the latest version while using AMD AM2+ CPUs.
2. Due to the latest AMD CPU transition, you may encounter the situation that the new system failed to boot while using new AMD AM2+ CPUs.In this case, please install one standard AM2 CPU to boot your system, and update the latest BIOS from our website for AMD AM2+ CPUs complete support.

http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en-us/event/...AMDAM2/AM2.html


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QUOTE(mr_habuk @ Apr 30 2008, 08:07 AM)
Argh...if i were a bit patient.. doh.gif (anybody who thinking going to buy x3 please inform me..u might save a bit..brows.gif)

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Haha brows.gif wan to sell ur X3 ?? bro plz wait and see 1st...from now only 9850BE is the best choice.
wait and see other model come out 1st ..i mean 65nm with lower then 125W proc (maybe 95wor 65w)



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= =.Yeap thats it,actually before you sold off your AM2 Processor you should update your bios to latest.So the next time u install Phenom,you shouldnt have any probs.If want 65W Phenom processor grab a 9150E 1.8Ghz but consume 65W = =.I wonder how the Overclock ability.But i suggest you guys wait for Deneb whistling.gif



AMD's Upcoming CPU Architecture Will Be Built from Scratch
- No Phenom influence, and especially, no TLB bugs


AMD's upcoming CPU micro-architecture will be built from the ground up, or at least that is what the company claimed yesterday. According to the chip manufacturer's executives, the next generation of processors will be radically different from the existing Phenom chips and will pack extra features.

The AMD64 micro-architecture was one of AMD's biggest cash cows since its introduction in 2003 and has been successfully recycled in the latest K10 core used in the Phenom chips (except for the refurbished cache system). However, the increased computing demands in modern applications and Intel's pressure on the CPU market forced AMD to come up with new and viable technologies.

"If I look at the next generation architecture of our CPU, then it will definitely not be, how can I say, comparable with the Phenom. It will look completely different", claimed AMD’s technical director of sales and marketing for EMEA, Giuseppe Amato in an interview for tech website Custom PC. Although there are no other details about what's cooking in AMD's laboratories, Amato stated that it would "solve problems that today we think can never be addressed by hardware."

The previous AMD64 micro-architecture came with a plethora of new features, including 64-bit support and an integrated memory controller. In fact, the first AMD64-based chips torn Intel's domination on the CPU market and gave Intel’s NetBurst architecture an extremely rough time. AMD's chips surpassed the Pentium 4 counterparts in public benchmarks and brought the company a significant market share.

However, those days are long gone. Despite the fact that the new Phenom processors are based on the same micro-architecture, they can't keep up with Intel’s Core 2 Quad counterparts. AMD was forced to lower the prices, and high-end quad-core Phenoms are now selling for the same price as Intel's entry-level quads.

Source

Sorry bro pWs for off topic.So what u guys thinks,Alot AMD Executive edy resign and they rebuilding their architecture from scratch.You guys think its good future for Deneb? sweat.gif

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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Apr 30 2008, 11:55 AM)
= =.Yeap thats it,actually before you sold off your AM2 Processor you should update your bios to latest.So the next time u install Phenom,you shouldnt have any probs.
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still can flash the bios ..but in DOS mode or maybe at bios (neede Award fasher if wan to flash at dos mode)
Load optimal setting it needed (all setting in auto mode)

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I hate DOS mode.I am somehow quite lazy user tongue.gif.Anything should be done in Windows..- -
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I hate DOS mode.I am somehow quite lazy user tongue.gif.Anything should be done in Windows..- -
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QUOTE(digswell @ Apr 30 2008, 11:54 AM)
Haha  brows.gif wan to sell ur X3 ?? bro plz wait and see 1st...from now only 9850BE is the best choice.
wait and see other model come out 1st ..i mean 65nm with lower then 125W proc (maybe 95wor 65w)
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d current batch of 9850be is 125w rite? so it mite not be d best choice since d heat dissipation is quite high at stock speed. d later batch of 95w could be a better choice but again nothing new, one gotta wait. i'll be contented enuf if i own a phenom 9750... biggrin.gif

QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Apr 30 2008, 11:55 AM)
= =.Yeap thats it,actually before you sold off your AM2 Processor you should update your bios to latest.So the next time u install Phenom,you shouldnt have any probs.If want 65W Phenom processor grab a 9150E 1.8Ghz but consume 65W = =.I wonder how the Overclock ability.But i suggest you guys wait for Deneb  whistling.gif

AMD's Upcoming CPU Architecture Will Be Built from Scratch
- No Phenom influence, and especially, no TLB bugs


AMD's upcoming CPU micro-architecture will be built from the ground up, or at least that is what the company claimed yesterday. According to the chip manufacturer's executives, the next generation of processors will be radically different from the existing Phenom chips and will pack extra features.

The AMD64 micro-architecture was one of AMD's biggest cash cows since its introduction in 2003 and has been successfully recycled in the latest K10 core used in the Phenom chips (except for the refurbished cache system). However, the increased computing demands in modern applications and Intel's pressure on the CPU market forced AMD to come up with new and viable technologies.

"If I look at the next generation architecture of our CPU, then it will definitely not be, how can I say, comparable with the Phenom. It will look completely different", claimed AMD’s technical director of sales and marketing for EMEA, Giuseppe Amato in an interview for tech website Custom PC. Although there are no other details about what's cooking in AMD's laboratories, Amato stated that it would "solve problems that today we think can never be addressed by hardware."

The previous AMD64 micro-architecture came with a plethora of new features, including 64-bit support and an integrated memory controller. In fact, the first AMD64-based chips torn Intel's domination on the CPU market and gave Intel’s NetBurst architecture an extremely rough time. AMD's chips surpassed the Pentium 4 counterparts in public benchmarks and brought the company a significant market share.

However, those days are long gone. Despite the fact that the new Phenom processors are based on the same micro-architecture, they can't keep up with Intel’s Core 2 Quad counterparts. AMD was forced to lower the prices, and high-end quad-core Phenoms are now selling for the same price as Intel's entry-level quads.

Source

Sorry bro pWs for off topic.So what u guys thinks,Alot AMD Executive edy resign and they rebuilding their architecture from scratch.You guys think its good future for Deneb? sweat.gif
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as long as d r&d department can deliver, i wouldn't mind even d amd runs w/o any executive. tongue.gif

QUOTE(joe_star @ Apr 30 2008, 12:32 PM)
DOS is for real men tongue.gif
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i just want to know whether my psu can cope or not while ocking phenom..
the wattage haunt me bad..
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Apr 30 2008, 01:53 PM)
i just want to know whether my psu can cope or not while ocking phenom..
the wattage haunt me bad..
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i wouldn't overclock a quad core phenom with a 400w psu if u ask me mate. smile.gif
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i wouldn't overclock a quad core phenom with a 400w psu if u ask me mate.  smile.gif
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hahaha.. just eager to know whether it's ok or not.. guess need to try it by myself.. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Apr 30 2008, 02:05 PM)
i wouldn't overclock a quad core phenom with a 400w psu if u ask me mate.  smile.gif
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what bout 500w can arrr...
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QUOTE(fuzore @ Apr 30 2008, 04:05 PM)
what bout 500w can arrr...
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depend on d +12V rating bro. if there's a single fat rail, i think should be sufficient provided no power hunger gfx in use. smile.gif

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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Apr 30 2008, 04:16 PM)
depend on d +12V rating bro. if there's a single fat rail, i think should be sufficient provided no power hunger gfx in use.  smile.gif
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ic..ic..bro ah_khoo new b3 phenom have hit singapore market or not...
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QUOTE(fuzore @ Apr 30 2008, 04:22 PM)
ic..ic..bro ah_khoo new b3 phenom have hit singapore market or not...
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not yet leh... so slow... doh.gif

wah... how can i tahan until june... even lyp is sellin those b3 ledi... drool.gif lust.gif icon_question.gif
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Hmmm.....with regards to the new architecture, when exactly did they decide to start on an architecture from scratch?? If it has indeed been in the pipelines for quite a while then I have high hopes for it, but if its just a knee-jerk reaction to the unsuccessful(i wouldnt say total failure) of Phenom then I would be more hesistant, coz these things takes pretty long to develop sweat.gif
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I think they will rebuild from the AMD64 architecture and ..dont know to explain anymore = =]

According to AMD's manufacturing partners, the 45nm Phenom X4 chips will hit the retailers' shelves by the end of November 2008.

Can this be trusted? brows.gif

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im going to get 700 this june, after selling my rig.. now im so confuse of which platform..coz ive seen tri core looks good..phenom x4 also good....maybe im goin to collect anther 300 to make it 1k..phenom BE or ehem2??
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700?What 700?RM 700 ah?= = I suggest and begging u to wait Deneb cry.gif
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QUOTE(alive88 @ Apr 30 2008, 09:16 PM)
im going to get 700 this june, after selling my rig.. now im so confuse of which platform..coz ive seen tri core looks good..phenom x4 also good....maybe im goin to collect anther 300 to make it 1k..phenom BE or ehem2??
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yeah.. go for phenom... eheheh...
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i was thinking of phenom too..but things get sooooo confusing now
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QUOTE(alive88 @ May 1 2008, 03:24 AM)
i was thinking of phenom too..but things get sooooo confusing now
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go for the cheapest ones la.. at least when deneb is out, u won't lose much....
even AM3 is coming soon... haiz...
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AM3?any link bro?wanna know too
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QUOTE(alive88 @ May 1 2008, 04:16 AM)
AM3?any link bro?wanna know too
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hehehe.. i forgot the links alreadi... seem that its juz rumors onli... no relevent evidence...
even heard that the new 45nm proc will be created with fully new architecture... someone posted about this b4 i think...
haiz... i still got no chance to test phenom....
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wah...u guys still awake till 5.55am..champion league fever or Ocer fever..??laugh.gif
BTW nobody having B3 yet??
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Yeap,i post regarding the new architecture.AMD Socket AM3 comes with DDR3 and using AMD 8xx series chipset if i not wrong.
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Stay to the topic pls. Thanks

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try oc ur triple core phenom with orthos or SPI 32M stresssing . And post the resulf.
then can let bro PWS update new database for triple core
So ppl can review bout
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Becos i saw some review they OC the Phenom X3 8750 to 3Ghz very easily just using the AMD Overdrive.And dont scare to increase your HT Link more than 1k cos ur default HT link is 1.8k=1800
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QUOTE(mr_habuk @ May 1 2008, 07:44 AM)
wah...u guys still awake till 5.55am..champion league fever or Ocer fever..??laugh.gif
BTW nobody having B3 yet??
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hehehehe... sell me urs la @ a cheap price... then u can get a BE...
my budget lari alreadi after changing mobo...
u still cannot get stable 3.0ghz aa??
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Habuk, try cooling your PWMs. They get quite hot on the M2RS.

Hopefully this allows you to push extra vCore and HTT to 3G. wink.gif

Even if it doesn't OC better, cool PWMs are safer and make a board last longer.
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QUOTE(casperito @ May 1 2008, 02:29 PM)
hehehehe... sell me urs la @ a cheap price... then u can get a BE...
my budget lari alreadi after changing mobo...
u still cannot get stable 3.0ghz aa??
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ahaha ..he still newbie in ocing ....blur blur with bios option.
come and teach him

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Aiyo... rookies shouldn't really start with a DFI board. laugh.gif It's quite frustrating if something turns out wrong.

I wouldn't really want to touch one until I'm pretty good with SPD, P-states, MSR and stuff. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(X.E.D @ May 1 2008, 03:16 PM)
Habuk, try cooling your PWMs. They get quite hot on the M2RS.

Hopefully this allows you to push extra vCore and HTT to 3G. wink.gif

Even if it doesn't OC better, cool PWMs are safer and make a board last longer.
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hmmm... ohh.. Mr_Habuk is using DK... if UT.. can use the cool transpiper...


QUOTE(digswell @ May 1 2008, 03:19 PM)
ahaha ..he still newbie in ocing ....blur blur with bios option.
come and teach him
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not many people using DFI mobo here... so it kinda hard to teach him...
im using the UT but no phenom in hand, so i cannot teach him also...


QUOTE(X.E.D @ May 1 2008, 03:38 PM)
Aiyo... rookies shouldn't really start with a DFI board. laugh.gif It's quite frustrating if something turns out wrong.

I wouldn't really want to touch one until I'm pretty good with SPD, P-states, MSR and stuff. tongue.gif
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simple tweak also can.. but from my experience la (Back then when im using CFX3200) to get a very very very stable clock, u need to learn many things...
the bios quite complicated...
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QUOTE(X.E.D @ May 1 2008, 03:38 PM)
Aiyo... rookies shouldn't really start with a DFI board. laugh.gif It's quite frustrating if something turns out wrong.

I wouldn't really want to touch one until I'm pretty good with SPD, P-states, MSR and stuff. tongue.gif
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ya lorr..simple tweaking enough lor..but summore using DFI mobo make u learn fast..laugh.gif u may not see some advance feature in other mobo..

BTW..Its not that i don't want to stress it yet..it just i'm still confused bout the buggy thing in 3dmark06..
but today i kind of getting it.. rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(mr_habuk @ May 1 2008, 06:47 PM)
ya lorr..simple tweaking enough lor..but summore using DFI mobo make u learn fast..laugh.gif u may not see some advance feature in other mobo..

BTW..Its not that i don't want to stress it yet..it just i'm still confused bout the buggy thing in 3dmark06..
but today i kind of getting it.. rclxms.gif 

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cpu score @ 3.4k on 3d mark 06, that's superb for an amd chip!!! keep up d gud work bro... thumbup.gif

it could be nicer if u can bring down d vcore abit. biggrin.gif
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amd come with bussiness class amd phenom.. what that mean.. tactic in marketing?? sweat.gif
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QUOTE(mr_habuk @ May 1 2008, 06:47 PM)
ya lorr..simple tweaking enough lor..but summore using DFI mobo make u learn fast..laugh.gif u may not see some advance feature in other mobo..

BTW..Its not that i don't want to stress it yet..it just i'm still confused bout the buggy thing in 3dmark06..
but today i kind of getting it.. rclxms.gif 

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juz ignore the buggy 3dmark...
even my E6600 when OC to 3.4ghz my system information detect 3.8 and even in orthos detect 3.8ghz... sweat.gif

i tried OCing using AMD Overdrive... and i think its better for me to OC using bios which is to me more senang.... using AMD Overdrive i can't even go to 3.0.. haiz...


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amd come with bussiness class amd phenom.. what that mean.. tactic in marketing?? sweat.gif
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haha... business class phenom.. maybe that what they mean by the 9850 and 9750 95W version... low power consumption for business usage...

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amd come with bussiness class amd phenom.. what that mean.. tactic in marketing?? sweat.gif
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QUOTE(casperito @ May 1 2008, 09:39 PM)
juz ignore the buggy 3dmark...
even my E6600 when OC to 3.4ghz my system information detect 3.8 and even in orthos detect 3.8ghz...  sweat.gif

i tried OCing using AMD Overdrive... and i think its better for me to OC using bios which is to me more senang.... using AMD Overdrive i can't even go to 3.0.. haiz...


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haha... business class phenom.. maybe that what they mean by the 9850 and 9750 95W version... low power consumption for business usage...
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still high.. looking for amd x4 with 45w with stock laugh.gif whistling.gif
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QUOTE(xixo_12 @ May 2 2008, 12:41 PM)
still high.. looking for amd x4 with 45w with stock laugh.gif whistling.gif
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hahaha... dun think there will be a 45W X4 at this time... maybe when deneb is out there will be one...
sure syiok one... 1.15v @ 3.0ghz.. hehehe
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There will be 65W 9150e.1.8ghz = =..i wonder how the price.
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the nearest 3.0Ghz i got..(but it should be 261x11.5=3001.5)
super PI 32M entry..

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later will run orthos..see if i can keep it as 24/7 setup..

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how much you bought ur X3?
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How's the performance?

I still dont know its worth to grab it or not.. still considering..
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I just got the F3 from dblooi. Still playing with it. Currently at 3GHz 1.3V (Orthos needs more, even Crysis runs fine at 1.285V)

How high the temperature can be considered safe? It reaches 60C in my bloody hot 32C room
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QUOTE(Najmods @ May 2 2008, 07:29 PM)
I just got the F3 from dblooi. Still playing with it. Currently at 3GHz 1.3V (Orthos needs more, even Crysis runs fine at 1.285V)

How high the temperature can be considered safe? It reaches 60C in my bloody hot 32C room
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wah... 1.3v @ 60C aa?? my x2 onli @ 1.48v can reach 60c... wat cooler r u using??
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wah... 1.3v @ 60C aa?? my x2 onli @ 1.48v can reach 60c... wat cooler r u using??
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QUOTE(Najmods @ May 2 2008, 07:36 PM)
Stock with 120mm fan, something might be terribly wrong sweat.gif
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i estimate around 40c to maybe 50c la @ full load...

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@najmods..wif stock cooler, id OCed my F3 till 3.425ghz max..laugh.gif
for 24/7, its 3.1ghz wif 1.275v..orthos never exceed 56c...
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QUOTE(alive88 @ May 2 2008, 08:31 PM)
@najmods..wif stock cooler, id OCed my F3 till 3.425ghz max..laugh.gif
for 24/7, its 3.1ghz wif 1.275v..orthos never exceed 56c...
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QUOTE(alive88 @ May 2 2008, 08:31 PM)
@najmods..wif stock cooler, id OCed my F3 till 3.425ghz max..laugh.gif
for 24/7, its 3.1ghz wif 1.275v..orthos never exceed 56c...
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My room is as hot as a nuclear reactor, that's why rclxub.gif

I still wonder why I need to pump up lots of volts to get just to 3GHz. Probably my mobo? I have Biostar TForce 550, should I use that?
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QUOTE(Najmods @ May 2 2008, 08:48 PM)
My room is as hot as a nuclear reactor, that's why rclxub.gif

I still wonder why I need to pump up lots of volts to get just to 3GHz. Probably my mobo? I have Biostar TForce 550, should I use that?
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all F3 V3 proc only capable to do 2.9G with stock vcore (Pi 1M stable, stated in sales thread)
bro alive88 is using F3 from V1, that's one can do 3.1G with stock vcore.
the temperature is a bit high to me, but i think it's reasonable as your are using stock cooler icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(dblooi @ May 2 2008, 09:58 PM)
all F3 V3 proc only capable to do 2.9G with stock vcore (Pi 1M stable, stated in sales thread)
bro alive88 is using F3 from V1, that's one can do 3.1G with stock vcore.
the temperature is a bit high to me, but i think it's reasonable as your are using stock cooler icon_rolleyes.gif
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Alright thanks for that, Super PI 1M is quite light, so its stable at lower voltages. The difference between both core temperature is rather huge, about 5C, my previous F2 is about 1-2C difference

Windsor can handle higher heat than Brisbane right? So I guess my temperature is quite OK, its only reaches 60C in Orthos, in games it only touches around 50C-54C
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QUOTE(Najmods @ May 2 2008, 10:45 PM)
Alright thanks for that, Super PI 1M is quite light, so its stable at lower voltages. The difference between both core temperature is rather huge, about 5C, my previous F2 is about 1-2C difference

Windsor can handle higher heat than Brisbane right? So I guess my temperature is quite OK, its only reaches 60C in Orthos, in games it only touches around 50C-54C
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QUOTE(sempronic @ May 3 2008, 12:14 AM)
yeah can handle the heat...but get other cooler that is good...for ur own good.....
as if u dont take care the proc...it might shorten its life....
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I'm fully aware of that. There is some options, AC Freezer 64 Pro, CM GeminII or Gigabyte 3D Rocket II. Anyone has better recommendation?
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QUOTE(casperito @ May 2 2008, 08:33 PM)
wah.. nice...
3.425ghz @ wat temp full load using stock cooler??
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no full load bro..haha..just for spi1m and 32m only..added on wif stand fan sharp, temp is 65c.. biggrin.gif


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I'm fully aware of that. There is some options, AC Freezer 64 Pro, CM GeminII or Gigabyte 3D Rocket II. Anyone has better recommendation?
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if ur budget is around that as u mentioned above, cm geminII or cm212 is good

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QUOTE(Najmods @ May 3 2008, 12:41 AM)
I'm fully aware of that. There is some options, AC Freezer 64 Pro, CM GeminII or Gigabyte 3D Rocket II. Anyone has better recommendation?
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giga air cooling just put it a side....for me is not to good....get something like what other advise.... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(alive88 @ May 3 2008, 01:38 AM)
no full load bro..haha..just for spi1m and 32m only..added on wif stand fan sharp, temp is 65c.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Liuteva @ May 2 2008, 05:39 PM)
How's the performance?

I still dont know its worth to grab it or not.. still considering..
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don't hesitate just grab it..it has an xtra core..thats all.. blush.gif
btw tot this thread will be busy since bro sempronic hot sales..
no one testing it yet i guess..

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anyone here lapping their proc ?
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yup...it will avoid the warranty..

anybidy with his/her 9850BE?coz sempronic's sales sold out alrdy for that proc..
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QUOTE(alive88 @ May 4 2008, 01:37 AM)
yup...it will avoid the warranty..

anybidy with his/her 9850BE?coz sempronic's sales sold out alrdy for that proc..
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the 4 of the proc go to non forumer....but one to our AMD clan...

what i know he can boot his 9850BE 2.9ghz @ 1.29v brows.gif
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thats impressive..hopefully i can see a 3.3ghz quad wih at most 1.4vcore for daily use laugh.gif
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QUOTE(alive88 @ May 4 2008, 01:46 AM)
thats impressive..hopefully i can see a 3.3ghz quad wih at most 1.4vcore for daily use laugh.gif
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yup....now im so jelous of him... cry.gif

where is this 9850BE user...i wanna see some screenies....
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Hmm, I think i won't b changing to a newer motherboard and maybe waiting for either the newer am3 procs or maybe newer phenom.. Btw sempronic, is ur avatar (that girl) actually is a singer?
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QUOTE(Lacus @ May 4 2008, 01:51 AM)
Hmm, I think i won't b changing to a newer motherboard and maybe waiting for either the newer am3 procs or maybe newer phenom.. Btw sempronic, is ur avatar (that girl) actually is a singer?
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Err, jz asking..Sigh, can't really decide whether to get new mobo + Phenom or wait till newer platform or the newer processor to come out sad.gif
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Hi Guys,

Just got my AMD Phenom 9850 BE from Sempronic just now ... I'm still playing with it ... need time to fine tune the settings.. kinda difficult to play settings on my Asus board.
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thats impressive..tested stable wif orthos?
lets see how far can this babe go..
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thats impressive..tested stable wif orthos?
lets see how far can this babe go..
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QUOTE(colabear98 @ May 4 2008, 02:53 AM)
Hi Guys,

Just got my AMD Phenom 9850 BE from Sempronic just now ... I'm still playing with it ... need time to fine tune the settings.. kinda difficult to play settings on my Asus board.
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argh...i'm so jealous...
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QUOTE(colabear98 @ May 4 2008, 02:53 AM)
Hi Guys,

Just got my AMD Phenom 9850 BE from Sempronic just now ... I'm still playing with it ... need time to fine tune the settings.. kinda difficult to play settings on my Asus board.
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change the tRC to 11
we don't use tRC 31 for AMD platform wink.gif
do you mind to paste a screenshot of memset over here?
you have good ram there, with proper tweak should be able to get better result for Pi 1M icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(dblooi @ May 4 2008, 11:49 AM)
change the tRC to 11 
we don't use tRC 31 for AMD platform  wink.gif
do you mind to paste a screenshot of memset over here?
you have  good ram there, with proper tweak should be able to get better result for Pi 1M icon_rolleyes.gif
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Agreed nod.gif
Dont follow intel platform tRC flex.gif
At least below tRC 24 can do to. hmm.gif ..AMD is good at memory performance thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(digswell @ May 4 2008, 12:14 PM)
Agreed  nod.gif
Dont follow intel platform tRC  flex.gif
At least below tRC 24 can do to. hmm.gif ..AMD is good at memory performance  thumbup.gif
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just curious..how did he set it 31..coz my DK only got tRC from auto to 26 only..and same to my previous nf590..
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wow .. hot item there ...

one of my friend already sold item at garage sales and converted to intel ... just sold hid TA770+5000+ BE + CM HSF ... quite sad ler .. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(mr_habuk @ May 4 2008, 02:01 PM)
just curious..how did he set it 31..coz my DK only got tRC from auto to 26 only..and same to my previous nf590..
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It was on AUTO. ok.. I have a problem here.. My system is really HOT. even at default speed. I am using a GeminII heatsink with 2 CM 12cm fan and the temp is still about 64-66 degrees at idle. I am not sure what is wrong.. I tink i need to fix the problem b4 further overclocking. I really need help 3ghz go up to 71degrees ... something wrong somewhere. I'm using Tuniq TX-2 thermal paste.

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K10 has DTS spoiled as well if i'm not mistaken.
Try to touch the base of the heatsink,
see whether it is hot or not,
more than 50C should be very hot when you touch on it icon_rolleyes.gif


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QUOTE(colabear98 @ May 4 2008, 01:33 PM)
It was on AUTO. ok.. I have a problem here.. My system is really HOT. even at default speed. I am using a  GeminII heatsink with 2 CM 12cm fan and the temp is still about 64-66 degrees at idle. I am not sure what is wrong.. I tink i need to fix the problem b4 further overclocking. I really need help 3ghz go up to 71degrees ... something wrong somewhere. I'm using Tuniq TX-2 thermal paste.
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wahh..thats hot for a 'hot item'..sure its not a bug from that monitoring software..??
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I'm using CPUID HW Monitor.
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Try touch your Heatsink.Feel HOT or Warm?
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QUOTE(dblooi @ May 4 2008, 02:08 PM)
K10 has DTS spoiled as well if i'm not mistaken.
Try to touch the base of the heatsink,
see whether it is hot or not,
more than 50C should be very hot when you touch on it  icon_rolleyes.gif
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really?? DTS probs is the main reason i'm not changing to brisbane core last time.
if K10 also still got this bug, really disappointed la... blush.gif
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Last time with two fans, I touched my CM GeminII with full load also not that hot at the base. Try touch your heatsink base. If it goes up to 50'c it should be hot, if not then DTS problem.
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I'm going to buy Arctic Freezer 64 Pro tomorrow, since it was the cheapest. Is there any other good cooler at LYP that you guys recommend?
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Its good but what your budget?
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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ May 4 2008, 09:26 PM)
Its good but what your budget?
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Around RM150, less is better
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QUOTE(mizivincible @ May 4 2008, 10:00 PM)
Last time with two fans, I touched my CM GeminII with full load also not that hot at the base. Try touch your heatsink base. If it goes up to 50'c it should be hot, if not then DTS problem.
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I am not sure if its Asus problem. Last time I heard Asus was having wrong temperature readings on their mobos

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QUOTE(colabear98 @ May 4 2008, 10:22 PM)
I am not sure if its Asus problem. Last time I heard Asus was having wrong temperature  readings on their mobos
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asus? blink.gif nahhh....dont bother asus...not well paired with AMD...

get DFI, Abit or Biostar.....sure rock... brows.gif
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QUOTE(sempronic @ May 4 2008, 11:36 PM)
asus? blink.gif  nahhh....dont bother asus...not well paired with AMD...

get DFI, Abit or Biostar.....sure rock... brows.gif
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Wahh..money go out again ah... *Pengsan*

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QUOTE(colabear98 @ May 4 2008, 10:45 PM)
Wahh..money go out again ah... *Pengsan*
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i think that just the temp reading prob....try use core temp.....any higher clock u try???

and yes AMD is better in memory controller like our friend said.....coz try with intel...it cant stable OC my Ballistix as what my AMD did.. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(sempronic @ May 4 2008, 10:36 PM)
asus? blink.gif  nahhh....dont bother asus...not well paired with AMD...

get DFI, Abit or Biostar.....sure rock... brows.gif
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gotta agree w/ u bro, Asus makes better boards for Intel. smile.gif

QUOTE(sempronic @ May 4 2008, 10:48 PM)
i think that just the temp reading prob....try use core temp.....any higher clock u try???

and yes AMD is better in memory controller like our friend said.....coz try with intel...it cant stable OC my Ballistix as what my AMD did.. sweat.gif
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usually ram clock higher in intel platform bro (from my experience), d mem controller (chipset) has higher latency iirc... wink.gif
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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ May 4 2008, 10:57 PM)
gotta agree w/ u bro, Asus makes better boards for Intel.  smile.gif
usually ram clock higher in intel platform bro (from my experience), d mem controller (chipset) has higher latency iirc...  wink.gif
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Becos the Intel Memory is not integrated together with the processor but Intel uses their "Chipset" as the memory controller,While AMD Memory Controller is already integrated on the proc itself.But if AMD is better,why our proc(AMD) cant get Sub 20 Secs(Super PI 1M)?Is it causes by the CACHE?

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Becos the Intel Memory is not integrated together with the processor but Intel uses their "Chipset" as the memory controller,While AMD Memory Controller is already integrated on the proc itself.But if AMD is better,why our proc(AMD) cant get Sub 20 Secs(Super PI 1M)?Is it causes by the CACHE?
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guys,i got something to ask about ram DDr2 vs overclock..

let say im using value ram 667mhz.

basically, during OC, we need to make sure that the ram speed will not go higher than 667mhz, since we are OC-ing processor, not ram, no?

so.....there is no need for extra voltage at ram right? since the ram clock speed is not higher than its original value..
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if BE not need. coz we increase the multiplier not the htt mah =D
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QUOTE(pikacu @ May 5 2008, 12:22 AM)
guys,i got something to ask about ram DDr2 vs overclock..

let say im using value ram 667mhz.

basically, during OC, we need to make sure that the ram speed will not go higher than 667mhz,  since we are OC-ing processor, not ram, no?

so.....there is no need for extra voltage at ram right? since the ram clock speed is not higher than its original value..
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U would want to lower the RAM speed since you dont want it to bottleneck the proc. Basically if you plan to see how far your proc can go, for 667 you just lower it to 400, the speed will be slightly higher from 667 after you oc to 3.0ghz.
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QUOTE(Lacus @ May 5 2008, 12:30 AM)
if BE not need. coz we increase the multiplier not the htt mah =D
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QUOTE(mizivincible @ May 5 2008, 12:30 AM)
U would want to lower the RAM speed since you dont want it to bottleneck the proc. Basically if you plan to see how far your proc can go, for 667 you just lower it to 400, the speed will be slightly higher from 667 after you oc to 3.0ghz.
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umm...that not the point.

my point is...the voltage ram aka vdimm , there is no need to increase it, since it wont go beyond 667 mhz, right?
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QUOTE(pikacu @ May 5 2008, 12:45 AM)
umm...that not the point.

my point is...the voltage ram aka vdimm , there is no need to increase it, since it wont go beyond 667 mhz, right?
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QUOTE(pikacu @ May 5 2008, 12:45 AM)
umm...that not the point.

my point is...the voltage ram aka vdimm , there is no need to increase it, since it wont go beyond 667 mhz, right?
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You wont need to increase the vdimm for it not passing 667 figure. But certain value ram I know, even doing 700 mhz it needed to increase the vdimm if not the system cant boot at all, even some passing slightly above 667 would need to increase the vdimm.

Your question was abit confusing since u were asking "since we are OC-ing processor, not ram, no?"

Increasing the speed of proc will increase the speed of ram as well. Its just the matter of what divider we are using.

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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ May 4 2008, 10:57 PM)
gotta agree w/ u bro, Asus makes better boards for Intel.  smile.gif
usually ram clock higher in intel platform bro (from my experience), d mem controller (chipset) has higher latency iirc...  wink.gif
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QUOTE(sempronic @ May 4 2008, 11:22 PM)
nahhh...for me AMD have good mem controller....coz now im running with my intel rig as wanna see how can it perform...proc easy to OC....but the RAM not as good as AMD... tongue.gif
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Ram can be oc higher in Intel platform. wink.gif

QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ May 4 2008, 11:35 PM)
Becos the Intel Memory is not integrated together with the processor but Intel uses their "Chipset" as the memory controller,While AMD Memory Controller is already integrated on the proc itself.But if AMD is better,why our proc(AMD) cant get Sub 20 Secs(Super PI 1M)?Is it causes by the CACHE?
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On-die mem controller is only on amd..intel use chipset..so the proc architecture wont be so messed up, as the mem controller is outside of the die..
this may be the reason why intel can put lots of cache and have better architecture..

@najmods..wif that budget of yours, maybe ull consider to save a bit and get a better cooler such as tuniq or xigmatek?
if cant, go wif cm 212..its better than AC64 IMHO...correct me if im wrong..
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Yeap thats correct.Deneb has 128Bit memory controller..= = =X128?/128Bit?

So guys regarding on ram thinggy,If i OC my Proc to 340HTT so my ram will become 340Mhz,it will go higher than 667/333.So how do i make it to boot?Must increase vDimm?
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can i know what is da limit for x2 4400 when oc? i try on my proc & it only can hit 2.7ghz.. anybody pls help me..
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depending on ur hardware and etc. Can list out the specification of ur motherboard?
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my mobo is gigabyte ga-ma78-s2h


Added on May 5, 2008, 4:47 amowh... i got it finally...

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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ May 5 2008, 02:25 AM)
Yeap thats correct.Deneb has 128Bit memory controller..= = =X128?/128Bit?

So guys regarding on ram thinggy,If i OC my Proc to 340HTT so my ram will become 340Mhz,it will go higher than 667/333.So how do i make it to boot?Must increase vDimm?
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Not necessarily. Depends on your ram too. Err, this one is based on 1:1 ke ? And I dont think 680mhz will need you to increase the vdimm. Even last time when using my value ram at 700mhz I didnt increase the vdimm but that depends on your hardwares too.
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Ram can be oc higher in Intel platform. wink.gif
Architecture is the main reason.  whistling.gif

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let me guess..9850 BE??
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= = so alot switching to 9850.Drool edy?Cant wait for Deneb Silicon eh? whistling.gif
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QUOTE(alive88 @ May 5 2008, 09:33 AM)
let me guess..9850 BE??
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wrong... how can a ta690g supports 9850be whistling.gif


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Hmm..no doubt its X3 proc? sweat.gif
TA690G..wonder what proc u changing doh.gif

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Hmm..no doubt its X3 proc? sweat.gif
TA690G..wonder what proc u changing doh.gif
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still on f3, but gonna be gfx less since i got no pci-e card at d moment, gotta use my secret weapon ledi... d sis 8MB pci display card... laugh.gif
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Oh getting TA780G ah?= =
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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ May 5 2008, 11:20 AM)
still on f3, but gonna be gfx less since i got no pci-e card at d moment, gotta use my secret weapon ledi... d sis 8MB pci display card...  laugh.gif
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ok what...as long as it can give a display..heheh...i also used once...when im suffering to get 8800 series back in the old days where the price is a bomb..
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ok what...as long as it can give a display..heheh...i also used once...when im suffering to get 8800 series back in the old days where the price is a bomb..
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any chance for u to sponsor a x3 to be tested on this upcomin mobo? tongue.gif

gotta use d pci card for a while since d mobo cost me an arm & leg this month(this month is a veli difficult month)... sad.gif
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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ May 5 2008, 12:56 PM)
any chance for u to sponsor a x3 to be tested on this upcomin mobo?  tongue.gif

gotta use d pci card for a while since d mobo cost me an arm & leg this month(this month is a veli difficult month)...  sad.gif
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sponsor ar??me wanna get one also no budget for PC lor.....
what that secret mobo then?
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Design For Innovation drool.gif drool.gif

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QUOTE(-pWs- @ May 5 2008, 02:33 PM)
Design For Innovation  drool.gif  drool.gif

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hello guys..im not an overclocker
but i need to ask this
why my cpu temp quite high eventhough im not overclock yet
idle temp is around 50c...using x2 5000 black edition with triton asus heat sink with fan
is it black edition all like that?sorry if similar question like this appear again
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QUOTE(adeas @ May 5 2008, 05:35 PM)
hello guys..im not an overclocker
but i need to ask this
why my cpu temp quite high eventhough im not overclock yet
idle temp is around 50c...using x2 5000 black edition with triton asus heat sink with fan
is it black edition all like that?sorry if similar question like this appear again
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which monitorin software u use? g2 chip got spoilt dts (digital thermal sensor if i'm not mistaken tongue.gif )... smile.gif
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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ May 5 2008, 05:50 PM)
which monitorin software u use? g2 chip got spoilt dts (digital thermal sensor if i'm not mistaken  tongue.gif )...  smile.gif
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ohh really?i tot the same too....i use lot of monitoring software...core temp,pc wizards 2008,abiteq also in bios
all the same...where did dts located?on mobo or cpu?
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ohh really?i tot the same too....i use lot of monitoring software...core temp,pc wizards 2008,abiteq also in bios
all the same...where did dts located?on mobo or cpu?
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sumthg is wrong if all sw showin d same temp. u mite need to consider to reapply d thermal pate & reseat d hsf. smile.gif
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But isnt the G2 has error in detecting temp?Try touch your Heatsink whether its warm or hot.Btw,Intel Nehalem OC will be limited to mainstream user.Anyone heard this?Means Intel Nehalem Proc only those extreme are able to OC very well.
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Just bought Arctic Freezer 64 Pro, quite satisfied with its performance, even at 3.2GHz 1.415V it never been any higher than 52C on non air conditioned room when running Orthos smile.gif
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since u have bought hsf, oc higher la bro.. hoho..
did u apply thermal paste with the hsf ?
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how to protect hd when oc?

or it just a insignificant affect on it?
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Sigh...TA690G good for oc right?Too bad it actually blocks the pcie x1 slot if i use my gpu doh.gif
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thermal paste applied,all done but still temp higher
huhu..any other idea?flash bios?
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can provide more details? Which thermal paste u using? Wat hsf also and also which processor r u using =D
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QUOTE(adeas @ May 6 2008, 01:36 AM)
thermal paste applied,all done but still temp higher
huhu..any other idea?flash bios?
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give more detail plz...if not how can we help u?

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QUOTE(adeas @ May 6 2008, 01:36 AM)
thermal paste applied,all done but still temp higher
huhu..any other idea?flash bios?
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hmm... pls provide d details of ya rig bro... btw, dts is located on d chip itself. smile.gif

QUOTE(sempronic @ May 6 2008, 08:18 AM)
give more detail plz...if not how can we help u?
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chill bro... it's still early in d morning dun sound so harsh lah... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ May 6 2008, 08:29 AM)
hmm... pls provide d details of ya rig bro... btw, dts is located on d chip itself.  smile.gif
chill bro... it's still early in d morning dun sound so harsh lah...  tongue.gif
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lol...not harsh la....maybe the way i say it sound like that..... tongue.gif

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u dont have any 8750 ?
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QUOTE(sempronic @ May 6 2008, 08:18 AM)
give more detail plz...if not how can we help u?
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ok ok chill out

my spec;
am2 5000+ black edition
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trition asus 75 heatsink
gecube 3850
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forgot...with tv tuner inside

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QUOTE(adeas @ May 6 2008, 11:21 AM)
ok ok chill out

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Try this -

Dissemble your system. And put it back one by one, the crucial part is putting up the cooler, make sure the cooler base is fully touched with the proc IHS. And do apply a rice grain of TIM on top of your proc IHS. Better cable management does help in reducing the heat too. Try to measure the temp with several different software. Good luck.
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thx but i done all that...still the idle cpu temp is around 50'c
ridiculous rite?when i check using core temp;
core#0 =18'c
core#1 =20'c
thats make thing worst..haha

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QUOTE(adeas @ May 6 2008, 11:30 AM)
thx but i done all that...still the idle cpu temp is around 50'c
ridiculous rite?when i check using core temp;
core#0 =18'c
core#1 =20'c
thats make thing worst..haha
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Try and stress your proc (using Orthos) and see how much it goes up ?

My friend with CM GeminII on Gaygaybyte-what-board-I-forgot and AMD Athlon x2 4000 idle 60'c sweat.gif Should be DTS problem.
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i've try on my friend mobo...using same ax78 abit...
using stock heatsink but idle temp is around 40'c
ok...ill try using orthos
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adeas..its ur DTS problem..if somehow u see the temp is too high, touch the base of the heatsink..ull know the answer..

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it's a bit weird when ppl keep saying brisbane got problem..
but my one is ok.. since my friend also no problem using BE..
isit becoz of the batch..

@adeas
if u touch the heatsink n not too warm.. than it should be ok..
i got the reading..
idle - 3+
load - 50
sometimes the mobo itself got problem..
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ic...maybe my batch got problem..just bought a week ago
when i touch the heatsink,not too warm...
just curious to know because its all new
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eh.. why u didnt use 10x multiplier ?
is it lower multiplier better ?
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QUOTE(sarahlah @ May 6 2008, 05:07 PM)
eh.. why u didnt use 10x multiplier ?
is it lower multiplier better ?
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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ May 6 2008, 05:28 PM)
no, d higher d better since d chance of hittin d wall is lower.  smile.gif
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maybe he wat to coupe with the ram...
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QUOTE(sempronic @ May 6 2008, 05:48 PM)
maybe he wat to coupe with the ram...
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Ding ding ding, we have a winner. Yup if I use 10x multi my RAM only do 750MHz, and it can't reach 1000MHz
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QUOTE(Najmods @ May 6 2008, 05:52 PM)
Ding ding ding, we have a winner. Yup if I use 10x multi my RAM only do 750MHz, and it can't reach 1000MHz
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that what the multiplier for...
also same goes for the divider.... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(alive88 @ May 6 2008, 11:47 AM)
adeas..its ur DTS problem..if somehow u see the temp is too high, touch the base of the heatsink..ull know the answer..
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i've done it since adeas is my roomie,it's not dat hot,but he still afraid with dat prob,hehehe biggrin.gif
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becoz the item is new bro..
thats why he still worried..
give him time..
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QUOTE(8tvt @ May 6 2008, 11:50 AM)
it's a bit weird when ppl keep saying brisbane got problem..
but my one is ok.. since my friend also no problem using BE..
isit becoz of the batch..

@adeas
if u touch the heatsink n not too warm.. than it should be ok..
i got the reading..
idle - 3+
load - 50
sometimes the mobo itself got problem..
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cpu diode is (more or less) fine AFAIK. Its the individual core diode thats busted. My cpu diode reading was believable but the core readings were whacked. But they were reliable too in the sense that they were always about 15 degrees cooler than the cpu reading.

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guys, which way of OC will generate more heat from processor ?

increase multiplier or increase fsb(htt)?
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its the vcore u pump into the proc that generates heat..
correct me if i'm wrong.. biggrin.gif
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Yo guys, i'm new to oc'ing an AMD (or OC'ing at all...)

Got a 9500 phenom(stock HSF) with Biostar TA770+

The thing is.. my best OC with it is 2.54ghz and its freaking hot,
i'm worrying. 55c at load. Weird thing is the temp did not go higher...
throttling at work? I think forking out rm100+ for a gemini II
or whatnot does not justify for a mere 100mhz increase.

Safe clock would be 2.42ghz where load temps are not over 50c.
Usually around 45-47.

Anyone able to push a 9500 to 2.6ghz stable or even 2.8ghz???
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QUOTE(pikacu @ May 6 2008, 08:56 PM)
guys, which way of OC will generate more heat from processor ?

increase multiplier or increase fsb(htt)?
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Both increasing clockspeed and voltage cause an increase in heat generation

IF follows a simple equation actually

Power dissipated = TDP x (current clockspeed/default clockspeed) x (current voltage/default voltage)^2

But as u can see, the voltage is a bigger factor as its effect is squared.
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QUOTE(cyloh @ May 6 2008, 09:23 PM)
Yo guys, i'm new to oc'ing an AMD (or OC'ing at all...)

Got a 9500 phenom(stock HSF) with Biostar TA770+

The thing is.. my best OC with it is 2.54ghz and its freaking hot,
i'm worrying. 55c at load. Weird thing is the temp did not go higher...
throttling at work? I think forking out rm100+ for a gemini II
or whatnot does not justify for a mere 100mhz increase.

Safe clock would be 2.42ghz where load temps are not over 50c.
Usually around 45-47.

Anyone able to push a 9500 to 2.6ghz stable or even 2.8ghz???
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nahh....the earlier phenom is not an OCer....
i only can stable my OC at 2.5ghz....and at 2.7ghz is not stable....just can login into windows and cant run any apps as it may restart...
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I think the restart causes by the TLB bug?So sempronic edy ask your supplier ma ? brows.gif
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@AMDAthlon
is 3.4ghz ur highest oc right now ?
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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ May 6 2008, 11:01 PM)
I think the restart causes by the TLB bug?So sempronic edy ask your supplier ma ? brows.gif
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no i think u dont quite understand bout the TLB bug...its restart as the 1st batch phenom is not a good OCer....
still not ask....waiting for him to confirm what proc coming in as today got some new phenom coming but not sure what model...
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so hard to find f3 3800+ aih
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QUOTE(choyster @ May 6 2008, 11:52 PM)
so hard to find f3 3800+ aih
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go see sot someone selling at garage sale...but he wanna sell 1 whose set...try pujuk2 him....
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Hard d.He dont want sell whole set.I interested in his LCD = =.Btw,I think my OC Countinued tomorrow.Actually now using Sempron Socket 754 system to run tongue.gif
Cos PSU still not arrive doh.gif
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QUOTE(choyster @ May 6 2008, 11:52 PM)
so hard to find f3 3800+ aih
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QUOTE(sempronic @ May 6 2008, 11:53 PM)
go see sot someone selling at garage sale...but he wanna sell 1 whose set...try pujuk2 him....
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oit..u guys forgot bout me alreay ka?? tongue.gif
i got f3 for sale.. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(mr_habuk @ May 7 2008, 12:07 AM)
oit..u guys forgot bout me alreay ka?? tongue.gif
i got f3 for sale.. thumbup.gif
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there u go...not forget...didnt saw ur thread.....
okok....stop talking bout sales....pWs wont be happie.. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(sempronic @ May 7 2008, 12:13 AM)
there u go...not forget...didnt saw ur thread.....
okok....stop talking bout sales....pWs wont be happie.. sweat.gif
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hehehe.. tongue.gif
okok..sorry bro -pWs-
still got no B3 user in for now..??

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Blow rm500+ for B2 phenom... still wanna blow more cash for B3??
Looking around other tech reviews, seems like a 2.6ghz phenom
can't even OC to 3.0ghz properly for B3.

Hehe, lets all wait for Phenom FX or something....

I'm gonna keep up my quest to get a stable 9500 2.6ghz overclock.
If thats ever gonna happen that is....
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QUOTE(cyloh @ May 7 2008, 07:06 AM)
Blow rm500+ for B2 phenom... still wanna blow more cash for B3??
Looking around other tech reviews, seems like a 2.6ghz phenom
can't even OC to 3.0ghz properly for B3.

Hehe, lets all wait for Phenom FX or something....

I'm gonna keep up my quest to get a stable 9500 2.6ghz overclock.
If thats ever gonna happen that is....
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u kinda wrong there...the new phenom B3 work well for this time being....
one of our fellow AM2 already clock his X3 Toliman to 3.0ghz brows.gif
and another one with X4 9850BE that he get from me can clock 2.9ghz @ 1.29v and
he can go 3.0ghz just a little pump of vcore.... brows.gif
what i can say is that the new batch phenom rock then the previous one....

see previous page.. rolleyes.gif
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OT:

have some read HERE guys... come to think of it, he really made some points there, especially to ppl like my age... biggrin.gif


for sure B3 pwns B2 at anytime, no question bout that. smile.gif

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come to think of it..it did kick some senses in me..haha...
thanks ah_khoo..it does make sense afterall
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QUOTE(alive88 @ May 7 2008, 05:28 PM)
come to think of it..it did kick some senses in me..haha...
thanks ah_khoo..it does make sense afterall
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haha..for sure ill enjoy my life to the fullest..but still, got lots of things to spend too..cos living in a rental house..n for my car..cant spend too much only for my pc and gadget..

maybe this june, will got new things coming in..laugh.gif
but before that, really wanna see how 9850BE perform..
wheres that fella huh??
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anyone manage to get higher than 3.1ghz speed for 3800+ , with value ram?
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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ May 7 2008, 03:59 PM)
OT:

have some read HERE guys... come to think of it, he really made some points there, especially to ppl like my age...  biggrin.gif
for sure B3 pwns B2 at anytime, no question bout that.  smile.gif
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hehehe..that really make sense..make me having second thought on upgrading next time...laugh.gif
thing really different when u have crossed the 'single and available' line...

BTW bro ah_khoo..saw sumthing change on ur siggy... thumbup.gif


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QUOTE(mr_habuk @ May 7 2008, 08:57 PM)
hehehe..that really make sense..make me having second thought on upgrading next time...laugh.gif
thing really different when u have crossed the 'single and available' line...

BTW bro ah_khoo..saw sumthing change on ur siggy... thumbup.gif
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me also... brows.gif
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Very weird, my 335x9 wasn't stable when playing games even if its stable at Super PI 32M blink.gif I need to pump more voltage to keep it stable (1.4V), looks like I better with 320x10 (3.2GHz) 1.4V. Might be it hits the HTT wall like on my previous Windsor F2, or is there any logical explanation for this?
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i don't think using SP 32MB alone is enough to ensure the clock's stability.
usually i'll do at least 2 hours CPU blend, or 8 hours straight, to make sure it's totaly stable.. then start playing games and all..
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QUOTE(mr_habuk @ May 7 2008, 08:57 PM)
hehehe..that really make sense..make me having second thought on upgrading next time...laugh.gif
thing really different when u have crossed the 'single and available' line...

BTW bro ah_khoo..saw sumthing change on ur siggy... thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(sempronic @ May 7 2008, 09:21 PM)
me also... brows.gif
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way u guys saw is about to change in few days... sad.gif


playin d d board now, too much to learn in limited time... guess i gotta overclock myself ledi... laugh.gif

btw bro habuk, any do's & dont's for our board? am just started to warm up, need some proper guidence here... icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(muh_is @ May 7 2008, 10:57 PM)
i don't think using SP 32MB alone is enough to ensure the clock's stability.
usually i'll do at least 2 hours CPU blend, or 8 hours straight, to make sure it's totaly stable.. then start playing games and all..
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I don't have time for that, usually games are more prone to crash than this Orthos. For me I just use Orthos for about half an hour to test the temperature. Games usually crash even faster than that
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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ May 7 2008, 11:27 PM)
way u guys saw is about to change in few days...  sad.gif
playin d d board now, too much to learn in limited time... guess i gotta overclock myself ledi...  laugh.gif

btw bro habuk, any do's & dont's for our board? am just started to warm up, need some proper guidence here...  icon_question.gif
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ahak laugh.gif...cannot help la bro..
ur's are way advanced then mine...maybe u can are casperito..
he also have same board as u are..

mine cannot handle much htt like urs..that heat pipe really helping though..

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QUOTE(Najmods @ May 7 2008, 10:43 PM)
Very weird, my 335x9 wasn't stable when playing games even if its stable at Super PI 32M blink.gif I need to pump more voltage to keep it stable (1.4V), looks like I better with 320x10 (3.2GHz) 1.4V. Might be it hits the HTT wall like on my previous Windsor F2, or is there any logical explanation for this?
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humm, try orthos blend for 1 hour, if succeed, then ok already.

as for me, i'll try orthos for 1 hour first (after overclock), before i play games.

i also experience crash while playing games (xxxx.exe has stop working..) due to unstable overclock.

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@najmods..mind to post ur problematic setting?mayb got sumthing wrong with ur ram too..coz sometimes, its the ram that gives u problem, or usually, when crash, its ur vcore not enuf
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QUOTE(mr_habuk @ May 7 2008, 11:36 PM)
ahak laugh.gif...cannot help la bro..
ur's are way advanced then mine...maybe u can ask casperito..
he also have same board as u are..

mine cannot handle much htt like urs..that heat pipe really helping though..
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err... even im still studying the BIOS.. quite complicated actually... and with all my assignments making me even more penin...
but i think the BIOS is the same as urs la mr_habuk.. onli the PCB layouts are different... UT got the coooooooool transpiper onli... can cabut then pasang at ur mobo also.. ehehe...

and bro, wanna ask about ur chipset temp?? is it ok?? mine ysterday the chipset temp went to 50c ++.. the lowest i get is 43c...
dang ipoh is really2 hot... even with 2 table fan directing air to my mobo, the ambient temp is still hot...

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QUOTE(casperito @ May 8 2008, 08:13 AM)
err... even im still studying the BIOS.. quite complicated actually... and with all my assignments making me even more penin...
but i think the BIOS is the same as urs la mr_habuk.. onli the PCB layouts are different... UT got the coooooooool transpiper onli... can cabut then pasang at ur mobo also.. ehehe...

and bro, wanna ask about ur chipset temp?? is it ok?? mine ysterday the chipset temp went to 50c ++.. the lowest i get is 43c...
dang ipoh is really2 hot... even with 2 table fan directing air to my mobo, the ambient temp is still hot...
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start up near 40'C, full load @ 59~60'C. I've checked in XS, seems like some users are havin d same temps as well. d cpu temp reported is higher than coretemp too. smile.gif

initially i thought d chipset is not makin proper contact w d heatpipe, that's why i removed it to reapply some AS on both NB & SB. end up still d same. but d temp was w/o d transpipe (watever u call it tongue.gif )... wink.gif

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Wow...UT 790FX-M2R. Nice board you have there. :thumb:
Any special on this board?

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I think the special is the Transpiper?
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ May 8 2008, 09:16 AM)
Wow...UT 790FX-M2R. Nice board you have there. :thumb:
Any special on this board?

-pWs-
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nothing special bro, i'm contented enuf if it's a dfi board. smile.gif

UT VS DK:

digital pwm vs normal 4/5 phase pwm (if i'm not mistaken)
SiI3132 raid + SB600 raid vs SB600 raid
pipe cooled chipsets vs normal sinked chipsets
debug led vs none
dual lan vs single lan (if i'm not mistaken)
dang expensive vs affordable laugh.gif

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a native octal-core Sandtiger shakehead.gif shocking.gif

Sorry for off topic though.But is this trustable?
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erm ? octal core sandtiger ?
did u mean the fusion platform ?
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QUOTE(casperito @ May 8 2008, 08:13 AM)
err... even im still studying the BIOS.. quite complicated actually... and with all my assignments making me even more penin...
but i think the BIOS is the same as urs la mr_habuk.. onli the PCB layouts are different... UT got the coooooooool transpiper onli... can cabut then pasang at ur mobo also.. ehehe...

and bro, wanna ask about ur chipset temp?? is it ok?? mine ysterday the chipset temp went to 50c ++.. the lowest i get is 43c...
dang ipoh is really2 hot... even with 2 table fan directing air to my mobo, the ambient temp is still hot...
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i still got mine below 50' full load..
but naked under 2x4hp air conditioning room..
wait until i bring it home.. sweat.gif

QUOTE(ah_khoo @ May 8 2008, 09:53 AM)
nothing special bro, i'm contented enuf if it's a dfi board. smile.gif

UT VS DK:

digital pwm vs normal 4/5 phase pwm (if i'm not mistaken)
SiI3132 raid + SB600 raid vs SB600 raid
pipe cooled chipsets vs normal sinked chipsets
debug led vs none
dual lan vs single lan (if i'm not mistaken)
dang expensive vs affordable  laugh.gif
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u forgot to mention UT sexy design.. wub.gif
can match up with kedah football team..laugh.gif
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QUOTE(mr_habuk @ May 8 2008, 11:29 AM)
i still got mine below 50' full load..
but naked under 2x4hp air conditioning room..
wait until i bring it home.. sweat.gif
u forgot to mention UT sexy design.. wub.gif
can match up with kedah football team..laugh.gif
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lol... i hate green + yellow combo... yellow + orange (d old skool lp nf4 series) look nicer to my eyes... laugh.gif

which bios u guys r usin? i'm on 4-15. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ May 8 2008, 09:53 AM)
nothing special bro, i'm contented enuf if it's a dfi board. smile.gif

UT VS DK:

digital pwm vs normal 4/5 phase pwm (if i'm not mistaken)
SiI3132 raid + SB600 raid vs SB600 raid
pipe cooled chipsets vs normal sinked chipsets
debug led vs none
dual lan vs single lan (if i'm not mistaken)
dang expensive vs affordable  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ May 8 2008, 11:42 AM)
lol... i hate green + yellow combo... yellow + orange (d old skool lp nf4 series) look nicer to my eyes...  laugh.gif


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u got it right there....what u think...like what im thinkinig.. tongue.gif
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OT:

have some read HERE guys... come to think of it, he really made some points there, especially to ppl like my age...  biggrin.gif
for sure B3 pwns B2 at anytime, no question bout that.  smile.gif
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QUOTE(mr_habuk @ May 7 2008, 08:57 PM)
hehehe..that really make sense..make me having second thought on upgrading next time...laugh.gif
thing really different when u have crossed the 'single and available' line...

BTW bro ah_khoo..saw sumthing change on ur siggy... thumbup.gif
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lol.. a man who need a warm body at night to curl up..
better spend the money for the small smilling faces around u..
retire OCing la like this.. thumbup.gif

why not much B3 around.. all broke ar? ahha..
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QUOTE(8tvt @ May 8 2008, 01:03 PM)
lol.. a man who need a warm body at night to curl up..
better spend the money for the small smilling faces around u..
retire OCing la like this..  thumbup.gif

why not much B3 around.. all broke ar? ahha..
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one can spend wisely yet enjoy d fun of overclockin. overclockin not always equal to big spendin if u ask me. did anyone on ta690g + f3 not enjoy playin w/ these 2 items? guess not. d best part is, they don't hurt d wallet... wink.gif
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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ May 8 2008, 01:17 PM)
one can spend wisely yet enjoy d fun of overclockin. overclockin not always equal to big spendin if u ask me. did anyone on ta690g + f3 not enjoy playin w/ these 2 items? guess not. d best part is, they don't hurt d wallet...  wink.gif
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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ May 8 2008, 01:17 PM)
one can spend wisely yet enjoy d fun of overclockin. overclockin not always equal to big spendin if u ask me. did anyone on ta690g + f3 not enjoy playin w/ these 2 items? guess not. d best part is, they don't hurt d wallet...  wink.gif
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ops.. ofcourse.. but i'm narrowing the fact on phenom..
eager to try but.. X2 still serve me well.. save a few bucks is a main priority nowadays.. nod.gif
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ops.. ofcourse.. but i'm narrowing the fact on phenom..
eager to try but.. X2 still serve me well.. save a few bucks is a main priority nowadays.. nod.gif
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Any Phenom w OC screenie?
Eager to see one. laugh.gif

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Any Phenom w OC screenie?
Eager to see one. laugh.gif

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everybody waiting u to buy.. haha..
everbody also want to know..
i guess alot of things to tweak a phenom.. BE seems easier.. again must spend a little bit more.. haih..
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QUOTE(8tvt @ May 8 2008, 04:00 PM)
everybody waiting u to buy.. haha..
everbody also want to know..
i guess alot of things to tweak a phenom.. BE seems easier.. again must spend a little bit more.. haih..
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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ May 8 2008, 11:42 AM)
lol... i hate green + yellow combo... yellow + orange (d old skool lp nf4 series) look nicer to my eyes...  laugh.gif

which bios u guys r usin? i'm on 4-15.  biggrin.gif
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im still using the stock BIOS from the retail ones...

ya lo.. i like the orange yellow also... but wat can do... bought it alreadi.. plus, im dun like bling2 my PC is is as dark as a cave...
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Btw,Flash bios can use USB also right?pWs coming back to bright side when Deneb comes ah? whistling.gif
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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ May 8 2008, 04:37 PM)
Btw,Flash bios can use USB also right?pWs coming back to bright side when Deneb comes ah? whistling.gif
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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ May 8 2008, 04:37 PM)
Btw,Flash bios can use USB also right?pWs coming back to bright side when Deneb comes ah? whistling.gif
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in my case.. cannot..
my usb drive got to portion..
1-Floppy size (which works fine)
normally use it to flash gpu bios..
mobo bios cannot coz too big file >1mb + startup file..

2-bigger size for files..
tried this for startup -- failed (wonder why..)
lazy to set.. i just boot using win98 cd n enter dos.. run the flash prog on fat32 hdd..

ahh.. nice like the old days..
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QUOTE(alive88 @ May 8 2008, 04:57 AM)
@najmods..mind to post ur problematic setting?mayb got sumthing wrong with ur ram too..coz sometimes, its the ram that gives u problem, or usually, when crash, its ur vcore not enuf
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http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en-us/t-seri...on.php?S_ID=357

TA780G M2+ HP 6.x

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QUOTE(pikacu @ May 8 2008, 08:32 PM)
http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en-us/t-seri...on.php?S_ID=357

TA780G M2+ HP 6.x

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we all know bout this mobo already....already discuss it in previous old version... tongue.gif
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wah rly? >.<

outdated le..sob3.

anyway,,,i din see this mobo at lyp/imbi ..
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QUOTE(pikacu @ May 8 2008, 08:32 PM)
http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en-us/t-seri...on.php?S_ID=357

TA780G M2+ HP 6.x

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can support ?? 125W TDP if oc or pump vcore bout +0.30V how much Watt TDP ?? i think will kill the mobo

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QUOTE(digswell @ May 8 2008, 09:07 PM)
can support ?? 125W TDP if oc or pump vcore bout +0.30V  how much Watt  TDP ?? i think will kill the mobo
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the best that can support is TA770 and all the DFI UT & DK....if im not mistaken....
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not sure about that, but that mobo got extra heat sink *beside processor part*.
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QUOTE(sempronic @ May 8 2008, 09:30 PM)
the best that can support is TA770 and all the DFI UT & DK....if im not mistaken....
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from my review at rebels haven forum..ta770 can support 9850 ..oc bout 3.2ghz without any problem. but the mosfet chipset need to sinking with heatsink ...maybe can use the ram heatsink

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Alright I really annoyed by this, what does this located, anyone has a clue?
At idle when nothing going on its freaking cold
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When even I give it load only 30 sec on orthos it jumps like mad, and it hangs at 124C
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QUOTE(Najmods @ May 8 2008, 09:51 PM)
Alright I really annoyed by this, what does this located, anyone has a clue?
At idle when nothing going on its freaking cold
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When even I give it load only 30 sec on orthos it jumps like mad, and it hangs at 124C
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TMPIN0 is n/b temp
TMPIN1 is mobo temp
TMPIN2 is CPU temp


did ur temp like tis b4 u change with new HSF ??

i think is ur mobo issue ...temp core#0 and core#1 oso didnt read right temp

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I think your Asus BIOS revision got bug?Try touch your HSF.Maybe Detection error.
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try see other hardware monitor like everest...speedfan check the sensor ID see correct or not

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OK.. an update.. left my 9850BE comp running at 3ghz for days and no hang. Played Crysis no problem. Even Encode movies no problem at all. The only problem is opening 3Dmarks06 opens at splash and disappears or if it can open, i ran benchmark, half way shuts.. I will be trying to change my 12cm fan to a faster and more efficient one but have no idea on which brand to get. Looking for maybe 2800 - 3000 RPM.
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QUOTE(digswell @ May 8 2008, 10:05 PM)
TMPIN0 is n/b temp
TMPIN1 is mobo temp
TMPIN2 is CPU temp
did ur temp like tis b4 u change with new HSF ??

i think is ur mobo issue ...temp core#0 and core#1 oso didnt read right temp
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How you be so sure about that? If I can't trust any of those than what should I use?

QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ May 8 2008, 10:26 PM)
I think your Asus BIOS revision got bug?Try touch your HSF.Maybe Detection error.
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I always touch the HSF since I don't use any sidepanels, its just slightly warm

EDIT: I'll try Everest somehow....

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QUOTE(Najmods @ May 8 2008, 11:26 PM)
How you be so sure about that? If I can't trust any of those than what should I use?
I always touch the HSF since I don't use any sidepanels, its just slightly warm

EDIT: I'll try Everest somehow....
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See my post #485...
everest ultima version V4.50.1330
speed fan version 434
CPUID hardware monitor version 1.07.1

Wat version CPUID hardware monitor u using....???

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QUOTE(digswell @ May 8 2008, 11:43 PM)
See my post #485...
everest ultima version V4.50.1330
speed fan version 434
CPUID hardware monitor version 1.07.1

Wat version CPUID hardware monitor  u using....???
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Versiion 1.08.0
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QUOTE(Najmods @ May 8 2008, 11:46 PM)
Versiion 1.08.0
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then check ur device manager ---> system device --->see got ACPI fan , ACPI Fixed Feature Buttton and ACPI Themal Zone
and at bios did u enable ACPI device or not

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QUOTE(colabear98 @ May 8 2008, 11:02 PM)
OK.. an update.. left my 9850BE comp running at 3ghz for days and no hang. Played Crysis no problem. Even Encode movies no problem at all. The only problem is opening 3Dmarks06 opens at splash and disappears or if it can open, i ran benchmark, half way shuts.. I will be trying to change my 12cm fan to a faster and more efficient one but have no idea on which brand to get. Looking for maybe 2800 - 3000 RPM.
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dude, u've run orthos already ar??
anybody got that occt stress installer..??
can give any link to it??
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QUOTE(digswell @ May 8 2008, 11:50 PM)
then check ur device manager ---> system device --->see got ACPI fan , ACPI Fixed Feature Buttton and ACPI Themal Zone
and at bios did u enable ACPI device or not
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QUOTE(mr_habuk @ May 8 2008, 11:55 PM)
dude, u've run orthos already ar??
anybody got that occt stress installer..??
can give any link to it??
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ May 9 2008, 12:04 AM)
thanks bro, sorry for my laziness..just come back from work..so tired.. sad.gif
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QUOTE(colabear98 @ May 8 2008, 11:02 PM)
OK.. an update.. left my 9850BE comp running at 3ghz for days and no hang. Played Crysis no problem. Even Encode movies no problem at all. The only problem is opening 3Dmarks06 opens at splash and disappears or if it can open, i ran benchmark, half way shuts.. I will be trying to change my 12cm fan to a faster and more efficient one but have no idea on which brand to get. Looking for maybe 2800 - 3000 RPM.
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do you install the hotfix?
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QUOTE(pikacu @ May 9 2008, 12:50 AM)
do you install the hotfix?
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yup...download and install the phenom patch installer....
then for the fan try look for something from delta, sunon, nidec or any other good reputation brand....or if got money..go for silverstone..
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May I know what is the patch for??
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use the asus probe.. n don't open other temp software
it should give u correct reading..

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