If you can afford it please buy more natural ones. Sometimes those cheap one are not good if the glider licks it off it's fur.

I have decided! To have my gliders on a 3 plan diet! The protein mix, the carb mix and the F&V mix! Muahahaa....

The protein mix will have no yogurt. It's basically slurp but modified to be more protein enriched. With added chicken and if I can get my hands on some, turkey! May want to add some tuna into it to see how it tastes.

The Carb mix will be cereals, yogurt, a variety of fruit juices, glider nectar, calcium and protein supplement.

The F&V mix will be blended fruit and veggies with some Agave nectar. All will be frozen into cubes and fed every other day.

Crickets and mealies are rationed daily when available.

This diet is experimental with only suitable fruits and proteins.

This post has been edited by Reanne: Apr 26 2008, 02:02 AM

Another joey? From where?

Is it above 2 months or below?

This post has been edited by Reanne: Apr 26 2008, 02:04 AM

You can put a bit of sugar instead of honey, or simple sugar syrups like sucrose or glucose.

Just now just only made the F&V Mix. Honeydew, Mango, Pear, Sawi, Carrot, Nectar, passion fruit and blueberry yogurt. The mixture smelled more like mango than anything else. lol

A bit is no problem. If it's just for now then can use a little. It's just sugar afterall, to help her eat more.

Slurp is much more healthier and has more nutrients than bottled baby food. A baby joey can only stomach so much, better to give more nutrients in each bite.

If you can find, the organic baby food called Grandma's Turkey Dinner, is not bad. But it's not sweet, though most of my gliders like it.

This post has been edited by Reanne: Apr 27 2008, 05:21 PM

Cheese? Baby food is actually not an alternative for a staple.

Baby food is basically the fruit pulp, vitamin c and water. The protein levels are too low. Even if it's the organic ones with lots of stuff inside, it should not be used as a staple.

Glider shopping? Sure, one day go carpool and go market together la. lol

This post has been edited by Reanne: Apr 27 2008, 07:43 PM

True. Even the cheap yogurt that is commonly available in supermarkets contain a lot of sugar to make it taste nice, as yogurt is naturally sour. Pure white sugar is ok, but brown cane sugar would be better in my opinion. I usually don't add anything like sugar for my gliders as they readily take to the mix.

For eggs I would suggest you cooked them. Malaysian quality eggs, you never know whether it's 100% safe. Even my Jap teacher said they eat raw eggs with rice in Japan, but Malaysian eggs they don't dare to eat raw.

Wah, nice playground.

The bottle should be outside the cage with the spout only inside. She may have difficulties drinking if positioned like that.

The wheel, see if she'll use it when it's that low. If not, you can try to position it higher, somewhere in the middle of the cage.

Don't know why? You mean don't know how?

Take the yellow holder and latch it the opposite was outside, then position the bottle at the same direction but outside. If the spout doesn't reach the cage, then can use wire instead.

You can wire the stand to the cage bars. I've done that before.

Congratz on your new girl.

Really no time to post nowadays. : p First Hun sick now my turn to fall sick. Apalaa.... lol

One day need to sit down and read everything then reply. lol

About newbies and under aged joeys,

When a newbie has not visited and read anything from here or done any research and bought an under aged joey on impulse/pity/(whatever reason he/she buys the joey), we do flame but we still guide them. We do it because we care and the buyer must understand that he/she has just contributed to those breeders that sell mainly for profit, causing more suffering.

But when a newbie has already visited and read about under aged joeys, seen the pictures, know who to ask etc, and yet the person still buys an under aged joey. The buyer is just begging glider lovers to flame and shoot at them. I'm not pointing fingers but one of these buyers even commented on a thread to do with under aged joeys.

Using 'I'm a newbie in gliders so I dont know' is not an excuse when he/she has already had access to information to do with this. It's the buyers responsibility to do research before considering buying any animal, we have already provided the 'brain food' in the 1st page for you, but don't expect us to spoon feed every detail. That's why a lot of members will say 'Please read the first page'. If we had all the time in the world to slowly repeat answers to the same or similar questions, the 1st page wouldn't exist. But if the questions are not commonly asked enough to appear in the FAQs or the first page, by all means, ask. We will reply when we see it.

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One more thing about the milk that was brought in. Just because we have prepared milk nutritionally suitable for under aged joeys, does not give anyone an excuse to buy an under aged joey. It was brought in with the intention to help under aged joeys in emergency cases, not to help promote the purchase of them. Even though this milk is formulated for under aged joeys, it is not a perfect substitute for their mother's milk. Our source of glider replacent milk is very limited and I hope glider keepers will appreciate it rather than vice versa.

Whether anyone had this intention or not doesn't matter as this is a precautionary warning to anyone that may or may not have such intentions.

This post has been edited by Reanne: May 2 2008, 04:05 AM

LOL, Miko's eyes really can see bulging out!

Anyways, nice pics, but next time when we have a glider gathering, everyone MUST help clean up the mess because if we leave it like how we did in this gathering, I'm 100% sure these places will not allow us to have anymore gatherings in the future. It really was a big mess. Glider owners also should bring lots of tissue to pick up the droppings. This gathering it all fell to the floor and everyone stepped on it. I doubt the workers there were very happy bout this.

We must be more considerate to other ppl regardless whether they're animal lovers or not ok?

Pennywise, your 2 joeys have always been crabby but with time and proper handling they will slowly adapt to you. If they run away from you into a tight area, please don't try to stick your hand in to dig them out or if they refuse to come out of the pouch, don't shake the pouch or scare them. Off the lights and wait for them, or find out what's their favourite food and use it to lure them out. Never attempt to dig out any cornered animal as this time is when they are most defensive and terrified, their bite will be extra painful and deep and you may possibly instill fear into them being cornered.

The kitchen glove wasn't a wise choice to use as a barrier from Moka's teeth. You should have mentally prepared yourself to be nipped a few times. Once they've understood that your hand is not harmful, they will get used to you quicker. Putting her on your body and using the glove to pick her up won't help with her fear of your bare hands, as our hands resemble claws, so it may make them feel threatened in an instinctive way. Moreover, the kitchen glove is big and difficult to get a good hold on the joey, so excessive grabbing, touching here and there would make it more stressful.

Waiting for her to quiet down and then put her back into the cage is bad since you're using the kitchen glove to hold her down. It may make her dread playtime outside since she's gonna be flattened by a huge thing until she's tired then she'll be looking forward to going back into her cage, not to spend time with you. To put it plainly, it ends the bonding session on a bad note.

Suck it up and let her nip you a few times. DO NOT PULL BACK. I got nipped by her a couple of times, it may sting a little, but after that all I needed to do was slowly pick her up and she didn't attempt to nip me anymore after the second day. She already understood 'This strange thing didn't hurt me the last time though biting it didn't make it go away, it brings me yummy food so I guess it's okay.'

If you pull back, she will actually learn that biting you means the new thing (Your hand) will go away, and since she's afraid of you already, she'd rather have it that way.

One more thing, I have a strong feeling you should have left them be a day or 2 more to get used to their surroundings before attempting to even touch them. Animals that have undergone stress through journeys need a full day to 3 days of complete rest to adapt to their surroundings as the stress suppresses their immune system and needs time to dissipate.

For crabby joeys that we warned are crabby, should be given more time to rest before handling them as they stress easier as crabbing is usually a sign of stress and a sign of being afraid.

Joeys that are calmer tend to be ok to handle after a day or 2.

This post has been edited by Reanne: May 26 2008, 06:16 AM

Miko? Whose Miko? lol

That's one sickly looking joey....

Heya everyone, been real busy so haven't been able to visit much. I owe KJ an update and pictures. These are not recent pictures but they're still pics. The little boy is quite calm and curious. He's not a crabby pot so handling is a breeze. Just handled him a bit, hands a bit itchy from the sharp nails. I put him in my shirt and surprisingly he didn't crab, he just climbed to the top to my collar and peeped out. Once in awhile calm collected joeys like these pop out, real sweethearts.

He'll be ready for collection in bout 7 to 10 days or so.

This post has been edited by Reanne: Jun 14 2008, 03:36 AM


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