if it is true that the price is remain to at $199 (presumably someone manages to avoid the contract signing bit, activate, JB etc), i think it will be more beneficial to keep your first gen iphone as a spare or for novelty sake. selling it off will be too crazy.



even your car, doesnt depreciate that much overnight.

This post has been edited by nokia2003: Jun 10 2008, 04:45 PM

y the anger la? before posting derogatory comments like that, just bear in mind that different people has different desires. personally i do know of people who use the video call feature constantly (including myself with the v3xx). i dont see how is that a waste of money since you are going to use the rolling minutes if you are on the family plan package or have a lot of postpaid credit left.

well, in my defense, i am in no way looking down on the iphone as im a hardcore fan.


blurry maybe (but it depends on the model/manufacturer) but over here at my place and the places i usually frequent, lag rarely happens to be honest.

errr i dont how this will fit in, but here goes...



i have used ipods previously, currently using the macbook with leopard (as my secondary computer) and dell 5150c (as my primary desktop), an iphone and a motorola v3xx.



so can i be considered as an open source user but not a microsoft hater?

before you act all antsy, just remember that there are many factors that will influence one company's decision, not just geographically.

the same reason why paypal decides to open a division in singapore but not here, despite the oxymoron contradiction.

i am a malaysian and i can assure you that malaysians are simply not ready for a sign-a-contract-and-get-a-free-phone thing yet. the most that they can do is perhaps provide a very simple phone or subsidise them partially.

im no market analyst but i can be certain that no telco is willingly to take this gamble (having to pay so much to apple and also a huge cut of their profit from the subscription fees). simply because of the unscrupulous nature of malaysians (not all but only a fraction) and current legislation that does not favour the domestic telco companies to enable them to take legal actions against these people. furthermore i dont think we have a credit rating check here as well; making the seemingly disproportional situation worse.

having said that, try to ask any of your malaysian friends who studied in the uk before if they have heard of these unscrupulous acts before? my very own housemate, signed up for at least 5 contracts (with at least 5 phones of course) before leaving the country for good. of course, signing up a insurance coverage package and then claim for a brand new phone shortly thereafter is also a very typical tactic employed by these people.

This post has been edited by nokia2003: Jun 14 2008, 12:30 AM

the only way for you to get the mentioned price (yes, this is in reference to all you naive and silly individuals) is to have someone (and potentially ruin his/her credit rating) or have yourself travel all the way there on pretext to sign up a contract. (even so, they will require some short of identification or address as a proof)


otherwise, you just have to rely on dodgy sellers who God knows what illegal methods that they have installed ahead; using the mentioned technique or purchase straight from the factory etc. that will eventually jack the prices up to a skyrocketing level instead of the wah-so-darn-cheap-the-8gb-iphone-for-only-$199?


this is how the business world operates, so grow up will ya?

i mean seriously, in reference to those shallow individuals; you wanna own a sophisticated and high class phone (sorry for being perasan here , but im sure thats the truth among iphone users) but your mentality is still worse than those chavs and rednecks. the next person who posts up a similar item like that, im not gonna be so polite and courteous anymore; gonna be down right sarcastic and rude.

come come. anymore silly remarks or questions?

i am a bit skeptical about the plastic-ish feeling of the 2nd gen iphone.



i am very contented with the posh, brushed aluminium metal feel against my fingers. hence my iphone is "naked" and only protected by the black oakley soft case. ahhh... good stuff i tell you!

"old timers of this forum echoes d3vilzzzz's claim about frozzbyte!"




the aluminium feel is darn awesome la. the feeling is so out of the world. ha ha. that sounded so dirty!

This post has been edited by nokia2003: Jun 17 2008, 06:33 PM

were you referring to my post, mark?


the metal used for the iphone isnt standard metal per se. i dont know, it just feel different. the metal back casing for ipod touch is crap. thats for sure.

i think they are in a bit of dilemma because if they move it up, your index finger will be touching that part.



just observe the next how you hold a nokia phone and you will realise that your fingers are strategically placed, smacked on the antenna. so much so, that nokia userguides have to actually refrain you from putting them there as they will cause a worse reception and of course a higher radiation level being emitted

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Added on June 18, 2008, 12:05 pmyou have to bear in mind, in the case for iphone, we actually need our index finger to support the slightly, unconventional larger phone size from toppling the other way round.

This post has been edited by nokia2003: Jun 18 2008, 12:05 PM

yup. if you observe how much a school boy/gal spends on prepaid, then you will know why

errr i thought almost all of our iphones are underwater sets? unless you have paid the duties and sirim charges etc.

well im no psychic; predicting the future. but to hack the 2nd gen iphone is definitely feasible (i know that there rumours that xyz has done it etc but it has yet to be confirmed 100%).




the main thing to take into consideration here is the price actually.

actually there is way to get it cheap.


unless some dodgy people can sell it secretly from the china factory (like how they sell genuine nikes, ralph lauren etc outside). they are slightly imperfect but no visible problems overall. hey, i dont mind my 3g iphone having some minor scratches so long it works well and cheap!


the hong kong people are experts in this 'field' because they can usually market their products better than their mainland counterparts.

*double yawn*



with all these questions, i feel like we are operating a regional apple iphone care support centre for malaysia.

so your whole hour is something worth shouting about? people here spent countless time and effort to learn the hard way.


how do you think they will react if you decide to be lazy and expect everything to be put on the table for you when information is all around the forum?

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Added on June 22, 2008, 3:32 pmand im gonna add a reply of mine posted previously on the "The Official iPhone FAQ Page (3G details updated!)"

<but unfortunately, if you dont have that much time to go through 40 pager thread, then you are better off paying an expert to rectify your problems. you cant expect to have a win-win situation (being lazy and a cheapskate and yet expect to be spoon fed) right?


economics' principle number 1; people face trade-offs and hence there is no such thing as a free lunch in the world.


pardon my derogatory labellings, but majority (not all) of the noobs will always be noobs; they expect everything to be served nicely on the table for them.


you dont have to agree with me because if you are dissatisfied with my remarks, you can do the best next thing; continue to ask a noob questions and get a high octane flaming in return.>

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Added on June 22, 2008, 3:34 pmhence, if you "aint so free sit here few hrs to read k", go pay someone to answer your questions. dont sulk like a baby and retaliate if you refuse to dig into your wallet or have more initiative to look through the web slowly.


and if you can excuse me now, i have to continue reading this subforum to learn more about iphone since im quite a cheap bugger.





This post has been edited by nokia2003: Jun 22 2008, 03:40 PM

nice one vex