i dun need 3G nor GPS, so i will stick with my trustworthy non-3G iPhone

That is true but the price was about RM2k2-RM2k5 because the sellers were selling it at a very high margin. The cost of the iPhone then was about RM1k3 so they were making lots of money. As more sellers came in, supply went up, the price war started so the price went down eventually to about RM1k7 but that is because they were still making profits of about RM3-400
In this case however, the cost alone is about RM2k5 so I'm afraid it's not going to be the same case this time. Unless of course, they get people to sign up for contracts and cancel one month later en masse to get the phones at the subsidized price OR they have some connections with the telco people. I highly doubt it's the latter: which company's employee would release the phones at the subsidized price without a contract? The company would be taking a loss! Unless of course they do it illegally. And there are only so many people you can get to sign up and cancel...
Then again, is RM2k5-RM2k8 for such a high end phone really that bad? It's about the same price as the high-end PDA/smart phones, albeit without warranty.

I think we must be realistic here. Apple products had never been cheap and they will never be. Although it's mentioned that it's $199, but you have to take into account that it's only valid for a 2 years contract with the telco and if you somehow "forgot" to register within 30 days, you'll be penalised. And since Steve mentioned that the price stays put in all countries with iPhone in July, the same rule will apply too.

To me, although Apple hopes as much as pushing the sales to its consumers, it won't do so by selling its products at such cheap prices as it still want to remain exclusive in the market (remember there's still the iPod Touch market to care for). Apple was never that stupid and will never be. Let's hope that there's a loophole of which non-specific-telco registered users can use it too.
Cheers

sukhoi37, i guess it's time for us to give up explaining anymore. It's a tiring process.

were you referring to my post, mark?
the metal used for the iphone isnt standard metal per se. i dont know, it just feel different. the metal back casing for ipod touch is crap. thats for sure.

i think they are in a bit of dilemma because if they move it up, your index finger will be touching that part.
just observe the next how you hold a nokia phone and you will realise that your fingers are strategically placed, smacked on the antenna. so much so, that nokia userguides have to actually refrain you from putting them there as they will cause a worse reception and of course a higher radiation level being emitted

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Added on June 18, 2008, 12:05 pmyou have to bear in mind, in the case for iphone, we actually need our index finger to support the slightly, unconventional larger phone size from toppling the other way round.

Mmmm wrong and right again. A Faraday cage effect happens if the antenna is enclosed in the aluminum cover of the phone where as the reception antenna of the iphone is on the bottom part where the black plastic casing is. Thats why only that part is plastic. Being near to an aluminum wont generate the Faraday effect. I'm sure the engineers at apple also figure out about the faraday cage effect. 

The new 3G phone supposedly have a better reception not because it have a full plastic back cover but MAYBE an improve internal antenna compared with the previous iphone. They wont be using the same antenna in a new phone right? BTW .. 1 or 2 test by Gizmodo/Engadget is not a measuring stick to a prove a theory. To prove this, the phone must be use widely and confirm by users. Maybe that time when they test, the signal was strong there. 

As a conclusion ... if the reception quality is better (not yet proven), then it might  be because they use an improved antenna compared with the old one and not because of the plastic back cover. We won't know until we can see the internal part of the new phone (looking forward to dismantle one ... if have the chance). 

yeah
they come with exclusive APPLE PEN u can draw anything on the air
geeeeez 

wat kinda question is this
as said is touch screen n did u saw any 1 using any pen to draw with it?
unless u saw those import from china

n is call stylus instead of pen

u need to study hard la
stop being dumb n start ur study starting from uncle google

lazy MTF