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lailaikatong
post Aug 22 2008, 07:33 PM

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QUOTE(ianho @ Aug 22 2008, 04:31 PM)
Harlo, there's no reason to be nasty to every question you dont see fit to answer. You do not own this forum ya. If you dont like certain questions, you DO NOT have to answer, simple as that.  I've noticed this behaviour from you quite a few times already and many ppl have PMed me about it. Not eveybody knows everything and a forum is for sharing. Some people like me play with almost all forms of electronics and there r still many things we have not learnt or have not realised  because we are too bz playing with so many things.

Please tell me you know absolutely everything about everything b4 you come out with answers such as "keep up with the program" and such.  What is LYN for if every fella like you just says "pls go Wiki", "pls go google". I'll just repeat this again, if there are questions that happen to hurt your eyes or intellect, or whatever reason, DO NOT ANSWER it. Ever heard of the right called "u have the right to remain silent"? You certainly have the right to remain silent but not the right to abuse people you deem to be "noobs".
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I would definitely have to agree with this, especially the parts in bold. Below are two of my previous posts from another thread, the message is the same.

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There's no need to be nasty to newbies. You may not realize it stringfellow but a considerable amount of your posts have become very immature in nature & filled with personal attacks. I didn't expect that these kinds of posts would come from you, coz you're very knowledgeable and a lot of your posts are actually very very contributive. Knowing a lot is very good, but it does not give you the right to be nasty to the new ones. Don't go saying I'm new here I don't know how it feels like (which has repeatedly been your excuse to be rude). I know what it's like. Repeated threads suck. I just ignore them. Please lah. The people at Genius Bars know a whole lot more than you, I'm sure they face newbies all the time and get bombarded with repeated questions day in day out. Do they have the right to be rude? NO.

MODERATORS, in my opinion you guys should react more promptly when repeated threads pop up. You'll have to be firm with the newbies as well. Point them to the relevant threads, then delete the repeated ones. The merge function is also there. If you guys leave it as it is the so called 'professionals' would just flame, flame, and keep on flaming.

Everyone here: moderators, 'professionals', newbies, should check out the rules and regulations at MacTalk Australia.

Allow me to quote several parts that I think would be applicable here in LYN:
QUOTE(lailaikatong @ Aug 19 2008, 09:42 AM)
The MacTalk Forum Golden Rules
Keep these pearls of wisdom in mind when compiling your insightful, informative and educational post on the MacTalk forums:

Rule 1: Treat others with the same respect and dignity that you would expect back.
Rule 2: Extend your respect to the whole community by making quality posts and threads after carefully searching the forums, keeping the community's standards high and the feeling positive and helpful.
Rule 3: Take your MacTalk experience in a positive light, even when people are negative and unhelpful.
Now read on to get some more specifics on what you should do and what you shouldn't do on the forums.

PLEASE DO this stuff on the forums
- Do read all the posts in a thread before replying. Everyone hates it when you ask a question that's already been answered.
- Do search the forums before you post about something unless you're certain it hasn't been posted before. If a thread already exists about something you want to talk about - add to it instead of starting your own.
- Do check your facts before you post. We are pretty tolerant of being incorrect as we all make mistakes, but it's better to be correct in the first place and not look stupid.
- Do report posts you see that you think break the rules, are duplicates or just something you think we should know about. It's MUCH better to report the post than to publicly alert everyone to it. Click this button on the post in question:  a forum leader will get this message and act upon it. Easy!

PLEASE DON'T DO this stuff on the forums
- Don't be abusive, rude, inflammatory or personally attack people, no matter how stupid or wrong they seem to you. It's the Internet man, calm down.
- Don't make pointless "me too" or "lol" posts. Unless you're contributing to the discussion, just enjoy reading it. Post whoring to get your count up to get access to the trading forum or some sense of importance via your post count is not tolerated either. Grow up or go to eBay.
- Don't talk about software piracy. Don't ask for serial numbers. Don't ask for cracks or links to download software. That's illegal silly.
- Last of all - do what we say. If a moderator or admin asks you to stop posting all those pics of giant phalluses, or flaming the new guy cause he thought the iPhone would send MMS, well, damn you, we mean it! We're tolerable and human and doing a job. We don't do things just to spite you (well, only sometimes if we REALLY hate you). If you have any issues with how you've been treated on MacTalk, feel free to contact us via email or PM and we can explain to you in detail, or even change our minds if you convince us we were wrong. Don't go posting on the forum whinging - we hate that too.
I'm not saying that I'm perfect. I wouldn't be surprised if someone here would dig through my past posts and find some faults, quote that post, and say 'practice what you preach'. In fact I'm expecting it already, based on how things have been going in here. Happy hunting.

May Apple Byte and its iPhone sub-section be a better place.
-lailaikatong-






lailaikatong
post Aug 22 2008, 08:16 PM

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Very well said, stringfellow. Just so you know, I feel the same about almost everything you've said.

Really agree with these parts:
-I dont like people spreading misinformation, I dont like people going about things like a headless chicken, and I dont certainly dont like people who are irresponsible with their purchases.
-these bombardment of questions are like eyesores. (definitely eyesores. I don't understand why those who have the merge/lock buttons don't use them)

It's true that we don't get paid, I expected this response when providing that genius bar example but I couldn't think of anything better that's Apple-related..lol.. You're not tussling words with me, you're just stating how you feel and I respect your ability to do that to me without being offensive. You do have the capability to state how you feel without being offensive or personal, so there's no reason to be offensive to others. Flame posts are eyesores as well. Just hit the report button and *hope* that the powers up there do something.

I have several stages of being subtle before I blow. If my subtlety isn't working, what i meant to say in that paragraph dedicated to the mods is that YOU MODERATORS HERE AREN'T DOING YOUR JOB TO KEEP THINGS IN CHECK. With great power comes great responsibility so be responsible to do what needs to be done lah.

I've quoted the MacTalk rules & regulations coz the netiquette culture there is top-notch. I do hope that everyone here could learn from that.
lailaikatong
post Aug 22 2008, 08:32 PM

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@frozzbyte.
What you said is definitely true. I don't take what you said as an attack at all. I understand how all of you feel, I hate repeated threads as well. I actually really really understand why there's a lot of flaming going on, I just believe that the flaming is unnecessary. I'm voicing out against flaming because you guys are way smarter than that, don't be like them.

You might ask why I'm not voicing out against the hit-and-run newbies. It's because I don't think they deserve the attention, they don't deserve to have the iPhone. They just buy it because they can. I don't bother to help undeserving people, so why should I bother voicing out against them. Ignorance is bliss, no need to get stressed out with these kinda people coz they don't deserve your stress.

@davidgary73
I've always been an observer in this forum, and would actually love to contribute more to this sub-section. I share the same passion and love for the device as you guys do. The main reason I don't post here is because of what I've stated above. Ignorance is bliss smile.gif

To all the iPhone sifus in here, keep up with the quality posts. Keep the flaming down.
lailaikatong
post Aug 22 2008, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Aug 22 2008, 08:43 PM)
Why are you pointing at me being the guilty party here again? I chose to endanger myself entering the fray of this "warzone" while you stay comfy in your "Iggy zone". And I'm the bad guy here?
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Sorry if you take it that way, I know some of my posts have been directed at you but the reason I did so was not to imply you as the bad guy. I just wanted to make you realize that you were doing things that would just cause more stress to yourself. I wouldn't have given a hoot if a retard posts stuff that don't contribute, but from what you've posted before this fiasco began and after all the noble stuff you've been doing to the iPhone community here, I know you're on a different level altogether. I respect you, and I didn't want to lose that respect that's why I stepped in and voiced out my opinion.

Again, apologies for anything I've said that has offended you.

QUOTE(stringfellow @ Aug 22 2008, 08:57 PM)
Human cannot live without caring to what's happening around them. Where you draw your line before you starts caring is what's make us different.

Like I said before, maybe I cared too much, and should just adopt the "Who the hell cares" attitude more often.
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Can't be said any better than this. It's not that I'm a carefree person. I'm still a human being that cares, to stuff that deserve to be cared.

I'm glad I'm now aware of where my lines should be. The reason why I have a line is because I used to be a person that cared too much, until I realized that it was not worth all the trouble. It's not about "Who the hell cares", it's about "Why should I care about that?".

@nokia2003
I would be pleased to meet you as well. Perceptions we make about people online can be deceiving. Do tell me if you're heading down here smile.gif

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