Chubby Hamsters V7, Fun Furballs with attitudes
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 Apr 20 2008, 09:36 PM
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QUOTE(MooZz @ Apr 20 2008, 09:08 PM) mayb lor... I think need change fast leh??Btw just now my hammie eating the beeding,is it normal?i jus got 2 robo in a OVO PAD...... 35L really alot alot for me to finish it.. hiahz......afta finish only change to chipsi....  |
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Apr 20 2008, 09:39 PM
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QUOTE(irkuysm @ Apr 20 2008, 09:36 PM) I think need change fast leh??Btw just now my hammie eating the beeding,is it normal? are u sure they eating????or jus playing ler???? |
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Apr 20 2008, 10:25 PM
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QUOTE(irkuysm @ Apr 20 2008, 09:36 PM) I think need change fast leh??Btw just now my hammie eating the beeding,is it normal? your hammy maybe keeping the beeding inside the pouch.. hamster love to hoard you know..the'll take the bedding outside and put it in their house and make a comfy place to sleep.. |
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Apr 20 2008, 10:47 PM
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QUOTE(sOuLx @ Apr 20 2008, 10:25 PM) your hammy maybe keeping the beeding inside the pouch.. hamster love to hoard you know.. erm...then izzit we shouldnt re-arrange their bedding or they place to sleep???the'll take the bedding outside and put it in their house and make a comfy place to sleep.. |
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Apr 20 2008, 10:50 PM
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just let the bedding be the way our hammy want..
 sometimes they dig the bedding until you can see the tank floor.. |
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Apr 20 2008, 11:08 PM
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Good to see so many new post. I will update the 1st page soon.
QUOTE(weefung2003 @ Apr 20 2008, 03:05 AM) need help here It is fine. An active hamster is better than a non-active one coz non-active ones can mean they are either bored or sick. Just let your Jojo adjust in time. my hamster "jojo" suddenly become so hyperactive  he keep run here and there just look a way to get out the tank like "prison break"  is my hamster fade out of me or dislike the tank or the environment not suitable for him?? but at last i touch him 2nite his fur is smooth and silky thanks for help QUOTE(bidangayah @ Apr 20 2008, 04:20 AM) uiyyooohh, gratzz!! V7 edy, well as usual im digging a knowledge form the experts here, well becoz of my hammy mother bite her pups, so i separate her, the pups already around 21 old days, i only have 1 cage and 1 tank, at first i put the mom and her pups together but after they gaduh2, i separate the mom and put in the dad in the tank with the pups, so is it ok if i put the dad together with 4 pups since the mom seem so garang and i dont know y...i worried if the dad will breed with 21 old days pups...sound funny, but i want to know... Firstly, to breed means you have to get as many tanks and cages ready for separating the young. You shouldn't be housing with the male coz there is a chance the male would breed with the young females. You should separate the male in 1 tank, female in 1 tank.... then the baby females in 1 tank and the baby males in 1 tank. In the end, breeding needs about 4 tanks/cages minimum. Don't think about saving cost and stuff.... you are their guardian and you should take responsibility in doing proper breeding and proper separation. QUOTE(brianshong @ Apr 20 2008, 11:27 AM) hi. I'm a new hamster owner and just own 2 male Robo. Really thanks u guys for the good tips on the bedding, food, water and cage selection. I will post some pic of my hammy and hurray for V7. For Robos, you should use a tank instead of a cage coz tanks have better floor space and your robo won't really get hurt. Bedding, you can use brands like Chipsi Classic, Chipsi Extra, Delikate, Kaytee, Healthy Pet, Breeders Celect. Please look at the 1st page for a bedding review.... but the most important is a sand bath. Robos got more oil secretions so they need to groom themselves to get rid of the extra oils. This doesn't mean you need to shampoo them, just get a quality sand bath like Sluis sand bath(RM16+) or Delikate Snowy sand bath.... these work well and is not too dusty. Food, get Prestige for them as it is loaded with good stuff. QUOTE(anderyna @ Apr 20 2008, 01:37 PM) my Binky bite just now while I wanna feed her, she does not want the food and bite my finger instead TwT I find it odd for a WW to bite you. I think your method for picking and approaching your hamster is wrong. From now on, you should pick up your Binky using a cup. With this method, she won't freak out with your hand.why like that??? she is not like that when i first brought her home, yesterday i went other places and just come back. is that i din wash my hand then straight feed her or wat??? T.T QUOTE(MooZz @ Apr 20 2008, 01:50 PM) erm...is living world brand bedding okie??? No.... it is pine. Long term usage can cause lung problems and liver problems coz of the phenols from the wood.QUOTE(raksaser @ Apr 20 2008, 01:53 PM) Yaaa..last time i use delikate bt nw using living world..is it ok wit living world?? Just use delikate. If you wanna use Chipsi, then only use the Classic or Extra. QUOTE(drexar @ Apr 20 2008, 01:58 PM) hi guyz.. does winter gold bigger normal winter white? Yes, winter gods are bigger coz they are MIX BREEDS. They are not pure, they have been hybrid with RC hamsters and their genetics makes them able to put on more weight and look bulkier than normal WWs. QUOTE(drexar @ Apr 20 2008, 02:02 PM) owh.. then can we breed winter gold and winter white agouti? is it possible? Do not do that. Breed winter gold with winter gold. Do not stray to include the normal WW line. That means you should NEVER breed with agouti, sapphire or pearls.QUOTE(sangels @ Apr 20 2008, 02:11 PM) First, I wanna congrats for the V7 Oh dear, sorry for your lost. I also had a similar case. My gerbil had a face tumour, and the tumour made her face swell and it was pushing her eye out. I made a decision to end her suffering too. Was sad coz it was my senior and also 1st gerbil in the family. Second, bad news for me as I lost 2 hamsters within 3 days My AshAsh the solid sable missing on 17 April when I'm out of the house. It's my mistake that didn't close the middle lid cos I thought wanna give him better ventilation as the day is quite hot.  He was half tame when he came to me. After some time, he was so good and tame. Always climb up to my palm whenever I put my hand into the tank. Still searching for him in the house, hope I can find him although I know chances are so low. Miss him so much... Thrid, very heart broken news for my Black Banded Fumoffu yesterday 19 April. Found his left eye is very swollen the night before, brought him to the vet yesterday. Vet examine him under short anesthesia. Vet told me that's due to the inner eye and nerve root infection and it pushes the eye ball to come out and the soft tissues and eye lid surrounding the eye also very bad swelling. He was curled up and sleep with the infected eye open and the other eye closed. He only able to sleep for awhile and then move again.  Only few choices for us: 1) leave him as it is and try antibiotic. But he will suffer during the trial period, he might not get thru as he will be very stress and painful. The antibiotic is not guaranteed in curing the infection, if it doesn't, then it may be too late for surgery. 2) go for surgery to remove the infected eye. Complications are so many which included he might not get thru the surgery as he is already half of his life span and there's greater risk for the anesthesia, his lungs are not clear as it'll added the risk for the surgery. If he manage to get thru the surgery, he also will be very stressful and suffer throughout the 2 weeks recovery process. Suture break down, infection of the wound, relapse of the infection to the inner ear and lungs, ...etc. 3) leave him without treatment and let him go when his time come. But he will continue to suffer as the infection will be worse after that. 4) put him to sleep without having pain and suffer. We really dunno what to do when we look at him suffering and yet we can't do anything for him  At last, decided to have choice 4 as this is the way he no need to suffer anymore. Hope he can RIP as he was buried beside DigDig(solid umbrous). He was sleeping so peacefully when we bury him. At last, no more suffering for him. Always miss you, Fumoffu.  QUOTE(bidangayah @ Apr 20 2008, 03:19 PM) sangels i know the do's and dont's, i just want to know what color coat can breed with, especially regarding to dwarf hamster, example, can agouti breed with pearl something like that There are many websites that you can read to understand. If WW species, as long is agouti, pearl and sapphire, you can interbreed the colours.... but never breed with winter gold@puddings.You are still new at this, so do not jump into so much breedings 1st. Research and learn. QUOTE(MooZz @ Apr 20 2008, 06:07 PM) isn't that chipsi bedding is also pine?? The apple scented is pine. The classic is Fir and Spruse... which is not too bad. i saw from my fren bedding.. chipsi brand....pine with apple smell.. QUOTE(weefung2003 @ Apr 20 2008, 06:35 PM) can anyone help me here Take out all the little dried shit and put into the toilet. This helps. my hammie shit in the place he sleep how to teach him to shit at the toilet?? tis is my tank setting QUOTE(irkuysm @ Apr 20 2008, 09:36 PM) I think need change fast leh??Btw just now my hammie eating the beeding,is it normal? Some hamsters chew on bedding, which is normal.QUOTE(MooZz @ Apr 20 2008, 10:47 PM) erm...then izzit we shouldnt re-arrange their bedding or they place to sleep??? Yes, you shouldn't rearrange their nest. Hamsters sleep in their own little corner or hiding place. It is their hoarding and sleeping place. This can be recognize with the food and hay gathered. You should change everything weekly lah, but don't go about rearranging the whole cage/tank every day. It can just stress them. |
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Apr 20 2008, 11:09 PM
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Btw i already put the bedding at their hideout,but still its remove it to ground floor...LULZ
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Apr 20 2008, 11:18 PM
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Apr 20 2008, 11:08 PM) Good to see so many new post. I will update the 1st page soon. Wow nice crazymouse....suddenly reply so much msg...It is fine. An active hamster is better than a non-active one coz non-active ones can mean they are either bored or sick. Just let your Jojo adjust in time. Firstly, to breed means you have to get as many tanks and cages ready for separating the young. You shouldn't be housing with the male coz there is a chance the male would breed with the young females. You should separate the male in 1 tank, female in 1 tank.... then the baby females in 1 tank and the baby males in 1 tank. In the end, breeding needs about 4 tanks/cages minimum. Don't think about saving cost and stuff.... you are their guardian and you should take responsibility in doing proper breeding and proper separation. For Robos, you should use a tank instead of a cage coz tanks have better floor space and your robo won't really get hurt. Bedding, you can use brands like Chipsi Classic, Chipsi Extra, Delikate, Kaytee, Healthy Pet, Breeders Celect. Please look at the 1st page for a bedding review.... but the most important is a sand bath. Robos got more oil secretions so they need to groom themselves to get rid of the extra oils. This doesn't mean you need to shampoo them, just get a quality sand bath like Sluis sand bath(RM16+) or Delikate Snowy sand bath.... these work well and is not too dusty. Food, get Prestige for them as it is loaded with good stuff. I find it odd for a WW to bite you. I think your method for picking and approaching your hamster is wrong. From now on, you should pick up your Binky using a cup. With this method, she won't freak out with your hand. No.... it is pine. Long term usage can cause lung problems and liver problems coz of the phenols from the wood. Just use delikate. If you wanna use Chipsi, then only use the Classic or Extra. Yes, winter gods are bigger coz they are MIX BREEDS. They are not pure, they have been hybrid with RC hamsters and their genetics makes them able to put on more weight and look bulkier than normal WWs. Do not do that. Breed winter gold with winter gold. Do not stray to include the normal WW line. That means you should NEVER breed with agouti, sapphire or pearls. Oh dear, sorry for your lost. I also had a similar case. My gerbil had a face tumour, and the tumour made her face swell and it was pushing her eye out. I made a decision to end her suffering too. Was sad coz it was my senior and also 1st gerbil in the family. There are many websites that you can read to understand. If WW species, as long is agouti, pearl and sapphire, you can interbreed the colours.... but never breed with winter gold@puddings. You are still new at this, so do not jump into so much breedings 1st. Research and learn. The apple scented is pine. The classic is Fir and Spruse... which is not too bad. Take out all the little dried shit and put into the toilet. This helps. Some hamsters chew on bedding, which is normal. Yes, you shouldn't rearrange their nest. Hamsters sleep in their own little corner or hiding place. It is their hoarding and sleeping place. This can be recognize with the food and hay gathered. You should change everything weekly lah, but don't go about rearranging the whole cage/tank every day. It can just stress them. haha.... n btw...any 1 know how is robo breed??? i know that robo need 4 month only can breed.. n may i know how long robo can breed again?? for normal hamster...they can reproduce in 20 days how abt robo??? doesnt same right?? |
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Apr 20 2008, 11:19 PM
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QUOTE(blurjoey @ Apr 20 2008, 07:44 PM) Me and sangels just bought the 50L BC from JTL. You can try mixing different beddings to last longer. It's 35L loh. BC don't have 50L  |
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Apr 20 2008, 11:23 PM
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Apr 20 2008, 11:08 PM) I find it odd for a WW to bite you. I think your method for picking and approaching your hamster is wrong. From now on, you should pick up your Binky using a cup. With this method, she won't freak out with your hand. you mean fetch her in a cup then let her climb to my hand??  stupid question, haha |
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Apr 20 2008, 11:30 PM
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QUOTE(MooZz @ Apr 20 2008, 11:18 PM) Wow nice crazymouse....suddenly reply so much msg... Yes, you can start breeding at 4 months old.... but the rule is still the same. After breeding, let the female rest 3 months then only breed again.haha.... n btw...any 1 know how is robo breed??? i know that robo need 4 month only can breed.. n may i know how long robo can breed again?? for normal hamster...they can reproduce in 20 days how abt robo??? doesnt same right?? Robos are actually one of the hardest to breed. Not to say hard like they will fight or what lah. Is just that robos tend to breed if they are compatible for each other. If the female is not a breeding type, then it won't breed. QUOTE(anderyna @ Apr 20 2008, 11:23 PM) you mean fetch her in a cup then let her climb to my hand?? Yes, you scoop with a cup then later you gently let her climb onto your hand. stupid question, haha |
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Apr 20 2008, 11:32 PM
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 thanks for the adviceneed to rub the hand with bedding before approach her??? This post has been edited by anderyna: Apr 20 2008, 11:39 PM |
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Apr 20 2008, 11:33 PM
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QUOTE(jtl @ Apr 20 2008, 11:19 PM) It's 35L loh. BC don't have 50L Hahaha... He just realized that is 35L when he was cleaning the tank just now. LOL But it's already heavy to carry, imagine 50L  |
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Apr 20 2008, 11:37 PM
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Thanks crazymouse_yyh for the info. I'm using what you mention also.
Please let me introduce my robo.  |
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Apr 20 2008, 11:42 PM
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Apr 20 2008, 11:30 PM) Yes, you can start breeding at 4 months old.... but the rule is still the same. After breeding, let the female rest 3 months then only breed again. okie okie..i oso hear the seller tell me b4..Robos are actually one of the hardest to breed. Not to say hard like they will fight or what lah. Is just that robos tend to breed if they are compatible for each other. If the female is not a breeding type, then it won't breed. Yes, you scoop with a cup then later you gently let her climb onto your hand. he say if u manage to breed... mean u vry lucky.....LOL....... just hope my pair of robo have some baby.... but the prob is....they run so fast... i cant even check which are them are male or female... sad case... Added on April 20, 2008, 11:43 pm QUOTE(brianshong @ Apr 20 2008, 11:37 PM) Thanks crazymouse_yyh for the info. I'm using what you mention also. u using OVO maze???Please let me introduce my robo. wat sand u using ??? so nice... This post has been edited by MooZz: Apr 20 2008, 11:43 PM |
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Apr 20 2008, 11:47 PM
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u using OVO maze??? wat sand u using ??? so nice... [/quote] Thanks. This is the Habitrail mini outpost. Delikate Snowy sand bath is the one i using but they poo n piss there alot. So i need to change it every 3-4 days. |
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Apr 20 2008, 11:49 PM
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QUOTE(brianshong @ Apr 20 2008, 11:47 PM) u using OVO maze??? wat sand u using ??? so nice... QUOTE Thanks. This is the Habitrail mini outpost. Delikate Snowy sand bath is the one i using but they poo n piss there alot. So i need to change it every 3-4 days. It's good that they are toilet trained.This post has been edited by sangels: Apr 21 2008, 12:45 AM |
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Apr 20 2008, 11:50 PM
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[quote=brianshong,Apr 20 2008, 11:47 PM]
u using OVO maze??? wat sand u using ??? so nice... [/quote] Thanks. This is the Habitrail mini outpost. Delikate Snowy sand bath is the one i using but they poo n piss there alot. So i need to change it every 3-4 days. [/quote] Icic....now i thinking... whether Habitrail Mini Outpost connected to OVO PAD? curious...hehe afta my sand use all..sure change to delikate.... so colour nice...got smell? |
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Apr 20 2008, 11:57 PM
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yay! Found my blacky. Was hiding in between my luggage bag.
 He must be very hungry and thursty. Non-stop eating and drinking after putting him back in the tank. By the way, I wonder any of you notice, if the hammies poo in the sand bath, their body sure smell like poo...hahaha.... Last time I didnt put any sand bath so no poo smell.... |
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Apr 21 2008, 12:04 AM
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[quote=MooZz,Apr 20 2008, 11:50 PM]
Thanks. This is the Habitrail mini outpost. Delikate Snowy sand bath is the one i using but they poo n piss there alot. So i need to change it every 3-4 days. [/quote] Icic....now i thinking... whether Habitrail Mini Outpost connected to OVO PAD? curious...hehe afta my sand use all..sure change to delikate.... so colour nice...got smell? [/quote] The smell is heavy in the sand area.. so i will normally close it once it is too dirty and change the new one for them. It is very happy to see them exciting rolling in the new sand. hehe |
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