Both of them are made in korea under the same owner(not brand...Mr.Histake Shibuya who owns both esp and schecter today)

Both of them have very similar specs(wood type) and body shape not to mention pricing..

I would like to know as to why you chose your answer cuz well, i've only tried the h-500 in guitar collection but have yet to test the hellraiser.

This post has been edited by noxxing: Apr 28 2008, 03:17 PM

Well, the Schecter has a thick neck. So if you have small hands like me, it would be really hard to solo on. And judging by your choice of guitars, i assume your going to be playing metal, and that means you would be soloing quite a lot. Theres not much difference in the two, just the neck profile is the most telling.

i sold my iommi sg to everydying and that has an awesomely thick neck and super hard to play any protest the hero stuff on it(cuz i really want to)

I'm just worried bout the neck thickness to be honest if someone could enlighten me on that part that would be great.

And lamb of god rules 11th hour is my fav song of theirs

Although I have not play either one, I will have to vote for the ESP, the Schecter seems a bit too flashy. How much is the H500 selling in GC?

What kind of EMGs are we talking about? Actives? Passives? Or Designed by EMG ones?
I haven't tried the Schecters, but I tried some of the EMG-ESP pickups and they really had no depth..... it was on an M series guitar too.
But I really like the M series guitar. the M-1000 I played with. Oh god, it was amazing.... Very nice action, super shreddable, and a decent weight to it.
The 500 is really good as well...... I think it's equally as good.

^M-1000 as of the deluxe series? We have that over here?

Guitar Collection had it. Not sure if they still do.

gc wont bring in the m 1000/1001 .their just ification is that it's middle end and if they want something more they might as well bring in the esp.I'm talking bout active emg's and it will cost me 4399 without the hardcase.

Hmmmmmm..... if it's for metal.... it's cool.

But if you want something more diverse, I would suggest the Ibanez S 5470 Prestige instead....
Same price range....

i find the iommi neck easy to play...actually a pretty avg thickness.
i've played much thicker necks...one of my SG's neck is also thicker.

For RM4k+ there's a red ashtop ESP Horizon selling in Tonezone that you might be interested. Actually I wanted to have it but no monay...

yea i know..but i dont really like the headstock..looks like a 70's adult toy...

i'd rather buy a new one anyway.

lol I actually prefer the old Horizon headstock but hey, diff ppl diff perspective rite..

i know the guy from august burns red is using that very model...but it's discontinued....

noxxing : After looking at both the guitars... It's really up to you which look do you prefer..

I personally like the flamed maple look of the H-500. I never did liked the Hellraiser's whatever gothic-cross inlay. I personally will get bored of it after awhile lah.. Haha

Good luck.

Haha, i love the inlays on the Hellraiser. Non-conventional is fresh IMO. And TS, if you're going ESP, send a PM to Dead Eye, he gives really good prices. If the Hellraiser is the one you want, PM opfish.

And yeah LOG rules. But i think i need to change my avatar, got back into my Megadeth craze again.

LTD H-500(w/EMG's)

I agree The inlay's give it personality but i can do with anything as long as i have markers on the fretboard.Unlike the gibson gothic series where there's a crest moon only on the 12th fret.That was a lil f'kin stupid.

Megadeath?...i'm not that old school man.my initial years were lame nu-metal like the slipknot, mr durst of limpy biskut, korn(they suck now..really suck...)

I'm waiting for dead eye to get back to me cuz gc told me it's basically 4399 without the hardcase(600 friggin buxx just to put it on a plane..and i have to wait 3 weeks for that tooo).

The hellraiser from opfish is about RM3800.So i'm kinda leaning towards the hellraiser.

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Added on April 20, 2008, 11:34 amyo skindred!...that silent civillian band...isn't the frontman from the old spineshank band?I recognize that mofo anywhere.lol

Well at least he's in a better band now.

This post has been edited by noxxing: Apr 20 2008, 11:34 AM

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you can refer to the dots on the side of the fretboard

This post has been edited by SweetTooth: Apr 20 2008, 06:59 PM

there are dots on the side of the gothic?...oops my bad then..lol

im not sure about that, but every guitar that i've seen or played had dots on the side, iirc. never really noticed though

of cos there are dots on the side of the gothic

i didn't notice it on the epiphone...maybe you're refering to the gibson?..

epiphone goth

I started with metalcore, now i'm in between that and thrash. Dude, its MegaDETH, get that right. If you spelt it like that on a Megadeth forum, they would hunt you down, haha.

That Hellraiser is a good price, just make sure you are comfortable with the neck. And just wait for Dead Eye's quote, i'm sure it would be cheaper than the GC price.

Btw, a really important question. What amp do you have?

i used to have a laney mxd 30.but i sold that one off.Cuz well it was a really sh!tty amp which had no diversity.So i'll be getting a cube 30x along with this purchase.

I heard that the hellraiser's neck is pretty thick as compared to the ltd h-500 and i dont wanna get stuck with another thick neck guitar.

everdying..thanks for the clarification on the dots!..you're a pro man.

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Added on April 21, 2008, 10:14 amwell i've read reviews at harmony central bout the c1 hellraiser(no reviews on the h-500 so far), sad to say that i'm leaning towards the h-500 now cuz apparently the schecter's neck is pretty thick....

Can anyone tell me if there's a heel at the joining of the neck and the body on the h-500?If there's isn't then i'll definately be settling for the h-500.



This post has been edited by noxxing: Apr 28 2008, 03:20 PM

Can Anyone tell me how to evade the import tax on my new baby!

The seller in America is willing to:-

1.Claim it as a gift
2.Claim it as a used item
3.State the value of the item as USD 150(not the real price)

If i can't evade it how much is the tarriff for import tax on instruments?

This post has been edited by noxxing: Apr 28 2008, 03:22 PM

as a gift...should be ok...but u wont be able to insure the package.

i kinda figured.Hmmmmmm do you tink i should risk it?...how does opfish do it?

most ppl just bring in a shitload of guitars...then instead of paying 10% import duty...just bribe the customs guy

well..i'm not bringing in a shitload..i'm just brining in one...lol

so there will be no bribing..I'm trying to break the vicious circle of bribery.cuz i would'nt wanna get bribed.lol

then go pay a 10% duty on however much you want to declare it as.
just remember the 10% is based on the total including shipping etc.

oh yea, customs arent dumb too.
i once had something brought in declared as a gift, customs decided to tax it anyway

This post has been edited by Everdying: Apr 28 2008, 04:01 PM

okay..so it's jsut import duty yeah?..not sales tax on the item itself?

guitars no sales tax, just that 10% duty.

might i ask as well..was it an instrument as well?

nope, plus it was sent from singapore and they still taxed it.
stupid customs.

oh also...did you tell the vendor to alter the price?cuz i'm thinking that i only want to make the invoice total to only $150

Yes, there is no problem, but then if anything happens, you have very little reimbursement from the insurance company.

so far i bring my gear to an fro KL-SG and never got stop or taxes ever ;p

dunno why u guys kena lol ;p

u handcarry right?

nope i check it in.. too big and lazy to carry on board but they did offer that i hand carry it.

wahts the worst that could happen to it?

gimme some scary stories..hehehe

I would also like to add, how am i gonig to pay the 10% duty?Do i pay it to the courier or do i have to file in a form and claim it at customs?Whats the physical process like?

the courier wont go to ur house...
it'll be at customs...and u pay everything there.

oh c*ck.Do i go to the customs in kelana jaya?

KLIA.
fun rite

Near LCCT to be exact.
The Pos Malaysia building.

oh super c*ck.and how will i know when it's arrived?

the postman will send you a little card