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Joker339
post Apr 21 2008, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(baxokp @ Apr 21 2008, 04:19 PM)
It's from my shop's price..Warranty by Pioneer Malaysia for sure....Can extend the warranty to 3 or 5 years by paying extra money. 5% of the total price for 3 years or 10% of the total price for 5 years. Warranty by Pioneer also not from the shop itself.

For 42pv80...if i take in package after minus this and that also very+very closed to RM4300
So RM4300 is a GREAT deal...bro
So i think he is the big dealer from Pana...and minus other's incentive also....
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Wow... Pioneer not giving 5 year warranty direct anymore?? That's strange I have to say....


Anyways to those who are interested in obtaining Pioneer 428/508, please note that the prices on the front page are probably list prices and you can probably get much less even in Large Stores by ASKING or from elsewhere.

Do some research if you're REALLY interested. Or just buy at whatever price if you're just too damn rich tongue.gif


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post Apr 21 2008, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(myaho2 @ Apr 21 2008, 11:17 AM)
thanks guys for the reply......good chance i will go for the poineer 428...  smile.gif
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Not advisable to TRANSPORT a plasma on your own.

They need to be kept upright and there's something some level of risk there (from what I've heard). You can even see it on the box.

AND needs to be installed by professionals - ie. the need to make sure about levelling and such.

If you're moving - just buy your TV there!! It's too much of a hassle to lug all this stuff around anyways.
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post Apr 21 2008, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(clngu @ Apr 21 2008, 05:05 PM)
selling at RM1,899 with HDMI cable ... I asked the sales person do the sound test ... KENG ...

btw, I interviewed Best Denki ... what is their most sellable Plasma in the shop ... the answer is Pioneer ...
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Ermm... if you willing to spend 8+k or 15+k on your screen... doesn't make sense that you get a 1,899 HTS right?????? tongue.gif

HAHA..


Anyways, yes... apparently Pioneer plasma IS selling like hotcakes OR they don't have much stock...... I wouldn't know ... but even the shop I bought tell me all out of stock!!

One thing I find irritating though is why the LX Series (full HD) is so expensive in Msia.

I was in Australia and I checked - 428 is cheaper here, 508 about the same - around 15-16k ringgit.... but LX508 is only about 19k ringgit or so after conversion.

Doesn't have the MEGA price premium that it has here..... (if the 30k rumor/price from v1 of this thread is correct - since I never bothered to check the real price)
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post Apr 21 2008, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(adrian0229 @ Apr 21 2008, 05:34 PM)
joker..price rly is around 30k for that 508 full hd..some more..30k is after discount price tongue.gif
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Yeah.. that's why I say I don't understand why premium is so much........

Anyways... seeing the LX608 face to face at the store.. I can't say that I was that impressed.

Having said that ... impressed or not ... not something that I can afford lah!!! hahahaa ....
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post Apr 23 2008, 06:37 AM

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QUOTE(myaho2 @ Apr 22 2008, 05:17 PM)
the question now is....get the 8th generation or wait for the 9th generation ??? unsure.gif
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No offense.. but that's a silly question.

There will ALWAYS be something better coming up.

That's technology.... if not how to sell?

For me, only look at waiting if next model is imminent.... within a month or at most two.

If you can really afford to wait longer, that means that you're not ready to buy (again not an insult - as no problems about not buying).

After all, many of us do have good TVs already.

Personally, I would have still kept my clunky CRT in my TV room if not for the fact that I was shifting house.

Fact is that many of us primarily use our TVs for Astro.... and unfortunately that's still in 4:3 and limited quality.

If getting lcd/plasma primarily for home cinema, I agree that projector is the way to go for those who can afford it.
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post Apr 24 2008, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(lokwm @ Apr 24 2008, 01:11 PM)
hehe..then is my misstaken coz my htpc got option 1920 x 1080
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VGA can easily wallop higher than full HD res lah! vmad.gif

full HD is 1920 x 1080.

VGA can still drive 24+" monitor at 1920x1200!!!

Don't get confused between cable/connection type and resolution.

You can easily pump crap resolution through HDMI or DVI............. tongue.gif

Anyways, the only problem you will face is HDCP - ie. content protection. If you try to output protected content - you won't be able to get full res.

But if you using desktop/games/own movie files/whatever, shouldn't be a problem.

Having said that - 1 point to note.

Even though an LCD monitor is say Full HD 1920x1080 - it doesn't mean that it WILL DEFINITELY take PC input at that resolution.

You have to check the specs for specific models.
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post Apr 24 2008, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(lokwm @ Apr 24 2008, 12:35 PM)
picture quality wise?
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Dependent on the quality of your VGA cable and cable length, etc etc, you may or may not notice a difference.

In theory - if you're talking about simple home use with 'std' cable lengths - ie. your computer right next to your monitor, you prob not going to notice a difference.

Don't be too quick to jump on the surely digital is better.
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post Apr 24 2008, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(lokwm @ Apr 24 2008, 02:00 PM)
now is between Sharp 42a63 or Samsung LA46N81.  left or right  rclxub.gif
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Best thing to do - don't get your conclusion from Internet forum.

Go and test it out with your own eyes lah.

Ask them to play Astro, normal DVD and blurays and see how each performs.

Then just make the choice (and stop comparing after you buy!)
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post Apr 25 2008, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(JiauBoy @ Apr 25 2008, 02:00 PM)
u mean bd will get full screen??? hmmmm let me test
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It actually depends on the aspect ratio of the movie.

remember that your screen is 16:9 - so movies that are encoded in 16:9 - e.g. Apocalypto will show full screen.

Others like 2.35:1 or 2.40:1 or something else will still have black bars above and below.

To me - no point to zoom as you will loose out image left and right.

Just watch it at the aspect ratio that is meant to be.
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post Apr 28 2008, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(marky @ Apr 28 2008, 11:18 AM)
hie..my sharp lcd...when running in HDMI..the backlight sometimes go brighter or darker during movies and games...i've off the OPC already still same...any idea?
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Some TVs have 'undefeatable' dynamic backlight adjustments.

I'm not sure about the Sharp - but MANY manufacturers use this...... Sony, Panasonic, Hitachi.....

maybe even EVERYONE?

Not many ppl want to have a big grey screen showing when it's blank.

You'll probably have to live with it if you've done your best with the settings.
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post May 6 2008, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(Neo18 @ May 6 2008, 10:40 AM)
GUys,

I want to ask, which LCD/Plasma brand and series do you recommend for the BEST ASTRO viewing.

Because my family only watch ASTRO. thanks
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Best Astro Viewing at the moment, I think comes to Pioneer 8th Gen/Kuro.

It is some level better than the Panasonic still.

However, whether it's worth the extra premium (almost can buy 2) is up to you.

It is definitely not 2x better though.
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post May 8 2008, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(DigitalKL @ May 8 2008, 11:03 AM)
RX330 just made me realize something - there is no such thing as HD Ready Plasma TV. Even pioneer 428 cannot be consider as HD Ready.... sad.gif
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That's not true.

If you look at the HD Ready standards set - it only mentions minimum 720 HORIZONTAL lines in widescreen aspect ratio. It DOES NOT specify VERTICAL lines unlike Full HD or HD Ready 1080.

Are you sacrificing some resolution over 'full' 720p. Yes.

Also, many 50" plasmas native res is 1366x768.

So you can get full VERTICAL res! tongue.gif

EDIT: hahaa.. got my horizontal and vertical confused!!! tongue.gif tongue.gif

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post May 8 2008, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(clngu @ May 8 2008, 12:17 PM)
Pioneer has launched all the latest products (Plasma, Projector, AV Receiver, Blu-ray Player) today in New York ... best of the best coming soon to Malaysia  smile.gif

none plasma can beat KURO  drool.gif
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Err.. so when are you buying one Mr. Pioneer supporter?

Since you've been talking about it since 8gen launch...... biggrin.gif

HAHAHA.. (instigator....)
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post May 8 2008, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(bledig @ May 8 2008, 01:41 PM)
Hi guys

I just got myself a wii and need to get myself a display(can't find ways to connect to monitor grr). I've shopped around for some 32 inch gaming tv and is quite intrested in the Sharp Aquos A53 and the Panasonic 700mk that the salesman recommended because of the 100hz. Any recommendation on this or others from you sifus? to me PQ is important as well

Thanks smile.gif
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I think this has been discussed before in this thread or previous version.

Anyways, I can't get over the 2nd Gen Kuro pic shown by clngu.... damn funny...

BLACKERNESS

HAHAHA
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post May 9 2008, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(iamsobloodysick @ May 8 2008, 05:47 PM)
by end of this year, pioneer will be buying its panel from panasonic.
just like sony buying from samsung and the former only selling its "bravia" processor to the consumer.
so, i donno how pioneer will promote its plasma tv.

in panasonic factory in osaka, i have witnessed panasonic compared its plasma n LCD tv with sharp, toshiba n pioneer.
we also watched a galaxy video clip in a room and it showed us how 'kuro' level in PY800 beaten pioneer full HD model.
it cant really say that none plasma can beat KURO.
the experiment in factory is actually insider news so far because malaysia ppl have not come across PY800 model yet.
what i can say that this PY800 is a very strong full HD model which will be coming to the local market soon.

i strongly agree with " belives our eyes more than our ears" as said by someone here.
so, panasonic's motto is simple "see to believe".
shall see.  rclxms.gif
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I wouldn't doubt it.

From my understanding... over the in the US ... panasonic and pioneer 'status' is almost the same... (pioneer doesn't have some super elite status lah)

But still... too much marketing hype about black levels lah....

As someone said earlier... it's not the be all and end all...

Also, I think it's up to Panasonic to decide their target market.... no doubts about their technology... but I think the recent models they are targeting a different market compared to Pioneer.
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post May 14 2008, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(adrian0229 @ May 13 2008, 06:48 PM)
actly quite same la...juz that in ps3..pv70 nicer than pv80 biggrin.gif
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nicer in what sense?

Why don't you give some specifics?
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post Jun 10 2008, 02:25 PM

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I would be slightly cautious to purchase Plasmas from Samsung and LG. Not to be biased, but they are no longer mainstream plasma manufacturers and as such are not likely to invest much into Plasma tech. Perhaps the only 'mainstream' plasma guys left are Panasonic and Pioneer. Even Hitachi is pretty much out of it and the latest hitachis are pretty crap (personal opinion).

Having said that, this is just my personal opinion. You should try to check out some professional reviews for confirmation on specific models (not on brand).
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