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 Ele or Enh Shaman for PVP?

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King83
post Apr 24 2008, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Apr 24 2008, 03:13 PM)
no need to go down to his level to drag in irrelevant stuffs for the sake of argueing (just like how he attempted to RL PVP LOLZ!)
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Ho Ho Ho...
i did not attempt to RL PVP...
but u wanted me dead... i only said if u wanted me to, you should do it urself smile.gif
And i am glad you feel good about urself that u're not out of shape smile.gif
The offer is still open tho, how bout tonite? I'm not raiding tonite so i got time smile.gif

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Quazacolt
post Apr 24 2008, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(King83 @ Apr 24 2008, 03:38 PM)
Ho Ho Ho...
i did not attempt to RL PVP...
but u wanted me dead... i only said if u wanted me to, you should do it urself  smile.gif
And i am glad you feel good about urself that u're not out of shape smile.gif
The offer is still open tho, how bout tonite? I'm not raiding tonite so i got time  smile.gif
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i work at plaza sentral, beside kl sentral, you're welcomed to visit me anytime. and i will bring a sign off form, which you must sign to state in black and white that you allow me to kill you. and you will not resist, nor will your relative or family hold anything against me after your death.

once that is signed and its verified by a lawyer, then i will proceed to end your miserable and pathetic life. deal?

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edited typo

also p/s: srs bsns yo!

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King83
post Apr 24 2008, 04:14 PM

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too far.... i'm around TTDI...
find somewhere more convenient for both of us.
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post Apr 24 2008, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(King83 @ Apr 24 2008, 04:14 PM)
too far.... i'm around TTDI...
find somewhere more convenient for both of us.
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if you agree to even have the sign off and willing to go through the legal procedures (anyone thats good with law know how malaysian law deals with consentual suicide cases?) im sure we can work something out smile.gif
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post Apr 24 2008, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Apr 24 2008, 04:17 PM)
if you agree to even have the sign off and willing to go through the legal procedures (anyone thats good with law know how malaysian law deals with consentual suicide cases?) im sure we can work something out smile.gif
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skip the legal BS, let's do it the old fashion way.
Name a time and place

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post Apr 24 2008, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(King83 @ Apr 24 2008, 04:22 PM)
skip the legal BS, let's do it the old fashion way.
Name a time and place
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in malaysian law, murder can be impose death penalty or life prison IINM (correct me if im wrong on this)

and the last thing i want is to die or sit in prison for a worthless dumbass such as the likes of you.
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post Apr 24 2008, 05:24 PM

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sigh.... seems like u're not serious about this.
Fine, forget it.... i'll just crash one of the gatherings if i happen to know u're coming.

But i'll let u know, you're worst than a woman... all u can do is flap ur gums.

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post Apr 24 2008, 06:06 PM

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QUOTE(King83 @ Apr 24 2008, 05:24 PM)
sigh.... seems like u're not serious about this.
Fine, forget it.... i'll just crash one of the gatherings if i happen to know u're coming.

But i'll let u know, you're worst than a woman... all u can do is flap ur gums.
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you not willing to sign off your life, and suddenly im not serious, and worse (if you want to critisize people for their english, at least get it right yourself) than a woman?

not sure if its some wierd logic you manage to come up with, or just your pathetic excuse of intelligence is doing its work.
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post Apr 24 2008, 06:31 PM

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QUOTE(King83 @ Apr 24 2008, 03:31 PM)
12. if no melee, 7 hunters outside aoe no take extra damage, 7 hunters can shoot non stop except for during repentance, 2 healers can concentrate heal tank only, 2 healers can HoT tank even during repentance = tank won't die = ??? = profit !!
but of cos a raid with 7 hunters, 2 healers & 1 tank is stupid, but for argument's sake... i am only letting u know ranged > melee in this match.
Swap out two hunters for one shaman and fury warrior.
tank front, shaman left back, fury warrior right back... no chain wrath.
Shaman grounding totem can absorb some holy fires. fury totem up, greatly increase both shaman and fury warrior dps.
Fury warrior make sure thunderclap, DShout and CShout up.
all of these help hearlers job right? agreed???

Hunters cannot send in their pets to help dps because will caused chain wrath. so hunters dps will greatly reduced.
while with two melee class there, they can still continues dps even when repentance up.
And i think both melee dps will out perform the two hunters that are being swap out. hack, maybe even out perform 3 hunters dps combined for this fight.

Time reduced to kill Maiden, healers require to perform less healing too.




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post Apr 24 2008, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(aaltong @ Apr 24 2008, 06:31 PM)
Swap out two hunters for one shaman and fury warrior.
tank front, shaman left back, fury warrior right back... no chain wrath.
Shaman grounding totem can absorb some holy fires. fury totem up, greatly increase both shaman and fury warrior dps.
Fury warrior make sure thunderclap, DShout and CShout up.
all of these help hearlers job right? agreed???
Yes this works... but 3 melee + tank (mr. PVP's example) sure can chain.
But i see your point. Thanks for providing a valid discussion.

QUOTE(aaltong @ Apr 24 2008, 06:31 PM)
Hunters cannot send in their pets to help dps because will caused chain wrath. so hunters dps will greatly reduced.
while with two melee class there, they can still continues dps even when repentance up.
And i think both melee dps will out perform the two hunters that are being swap out. hack, maybe even out perform 3 hunters dps combined for this fight.

Time reduced to kill Maiden, healers require to perform less healing too.
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This depends on the hunter's spec.
If they are BM, sure the dps will be reduced cos can't pet etc...

But if they are MM, they don't need pets.
And i think most high end raider hunters will be MM, BM is only good for leveling or sometimes PVP correct me if i'm wrong.
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post Apr 24 2008, 06:58 PM

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QUOTE(King83 @ Apr 24 2008, 06:54 PM)
But if they are MM, they don't need pets.
And i think most high end raider hunters will be MM, BM is only good for leveling or sometimes PVP correct me if i'm wrong.
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Any hunter that doesn't use his pet for raids, regardless of spec should not be raiding.

And BM is THE raiding build right now up to T6 content, where the gear will start to favor MM builds.

And MM is better for higher brackets of Arena.

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post Apr 24 2008, 07:00 PM

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And i think most high end raider hunters will be MM, BM is only good for leveling or sometimes PVP correct me if i'm wrong.


LOL wut?

Even if the hunter is not BM spec, their pet is already pumping out 200 free dps.

Seriously, speccing MM is an inside joke for raiding hunters. I would rather go surv spec for utility/crit/buff/mana efficiency instead of lolegolasmmspec.

Anyways, most end-game guild carries 2-3 hunters max in their raids. Usually 1 compulsory Surv spec and others BM spec.

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post Apr 24 2008, 07:03 PM

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QUOTE(Goblinsk8er @ Apr 24 2008, 07:00 PM)
LOL wut?
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Hey Goblin. what do you think about the new badge chestpiece? I'm considering getting that but I'm not sure about how the haste will be affecting my rotation using the new badge xbow.

Cookie cutter BM build of course.
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post Apr 24 2008, 07:13 PM

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Depends which shot rotation u r using, try to aim for 1.9 speed if u going 1:1 rotation style. (Lazy macrospam rotation lol)
Im using 3:2 Rotation now, so im not a big fan of haste now.

If you are still stuck in t4/5 content, dont bother stacking haste item yet.
Haste eats up alot of other stat's budget. You will miss out a lot on crit/ap and stuff like that.
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post Apr 24 2008, 07:18 PM

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Well I -try- to maintain a 3:2 rotation. but with DST and IAotH procs I keep going down to 1:1 so I was wondering if I should just go back to 1:1 and was thinking 2.8 weapon speed is kinda fast for 3:2.

And I agree with haste eating up stat budgets, but another hunter in my guild keeps telling me to stack haste or armor pen x_x

WTB better looking weapon )':

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Peacock bow LAWL.
I LOL'd at my guildie enhancement shammy, COCKHANDS!!
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post Apr 24 2008, 07:27 PM

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QUOTE(Goblinsk8er @ Apr 24 2008, 07:25 PM)
Peacock bow LAWL.
I LOL'd at my guildie enhancement shammy, COCKHANDS!!
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He bought the fist weapons?
Fruitier than a bowl of Trix.
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post Apr 24 2008, 07:44 PM

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QUOTE(aaltong @ Apr 24 2008, 06:31 PM)
Swap out two hunters for one shaman and fury warrior.
tank front, shaman left back, fury warrior right back... no chain wrath.
Shaman grounding totem can absorb some holy fires. fury totem up, greatly increase both shaman and fury warrior dps.
Fury warrior make sure thunderclap, DShout and CShout up.
all of these help hearlers job right? agreed???

Hunters cannot send in their pets to help dps because will caused chain wrath. so hunters dps will greatly reduced.
while with two melee class there, they can still continues dps even when repentance up.
And i think both melee dps will out perform the two hunters that are being swap out. hack, maybe even out perform 3 hunters dps combined for this fight.

Time reduced to kill Maiden, healers require to perform less healing too.
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oi wtf is a fury totem doh.gif doh.gif


Added on April 24, 2008, 7:47 pm
QUOTE(laksa88 @ Apr 24 2008, 07:18 PM)
Well I -try- to maintain a 3:2 rotation. but with DST and IAotH procs I keep going down to 1:1 so I was wondering if I should just go back to 1:1 and was thinking 2.8 weapon speed is kinda fast for 3:2.

And I agree with haste eating up stat budgets, but another hunter in my guild keeps telling me to stack haste or armor pen x_x

WTB better looking weapon )':
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armor pen is nice no doubt, wish rogues can afford to stack pene, f***en hit rating requirement is rediculous. damn huntards got it EZ tongue.gif

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post Apr 24 2008, 07:52 PM

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Shaman grounding totem can absorb some holy fires. fury totem up, greatly increase both shaman and fury warrior dps.


You cant have Windfury totem and grounding totem up at the same time.

You can try totem twisting. But thats just plain silly, considering grounding totem has long cooldown.

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post Apr 24 2008, 08:12 PM

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QUOTE(Goblinsk8er @ Apr 24 2008, 07:52 PM)
You cant have Windfury totem and grounding totem up at the same time.

You can try totem twisting. But thats just plain silly, considering grounding totem has long cooldown.
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oh win-fury, how the hell does that even increase sham dmg then, they dont stack lolz!

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