ehemmzz.. u swap the bar rite?if im not mistaken, to the 3max fender or lower arm bar?

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Added on June 22, 2008, 12:39 amof course there's a reason those bearing are there.. but the thickness wasn't enough. thats the old batch

This post has been edited by miragers: Jun 22 2008, 12:39 AM

what happened to the bearing dustcover/seal?

im not sure y he dont want to replace the bearings
even if he replace with good japan bearings oso it will be just a few bucks a piece (his price...not talking the price he sell n potong his buyers)
he would rather lose his reputation over that?
what kind of seller is that man

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Added on June 22, 2008, 7:30 amif the bearings are sitting properly in the sockets and the bar is bolted in well, there is no reason that the bearings should fail so fast
after a few years, possibly
but short term, shouldnt, unless the bearings were either very low quality or already faulty when they were installed
i've got 3 strut bars at home
all with bearings
the bearings typically last the life of the shock absorbers...i usually change my shocks every 2-3years

This post has been edited by neosaint99: Jun 22 2008, 07:31 AM

hey bro, this is exactly same case as me.. fix it for 2 weeks den the bearing spoilt, and absorber straight kong after the bearing damaged. take out and claim new one!

Why need know when I start? If you guy interested, you can find those thing also what.
I saw zth selling turbo piston for 4g13. Make me so interested.

Interested hor? Hehe. It teach you from A to Z. Hehe...

This new item.


How much actually the bar cost?

Last night I tested the UTR SFOEM air filter and K&N air filter. Both of us exchanged the air filter and use. And you know what? No different. Both air filter giving more smooth revving and more smooth when climbing hill.. Both air filter also can be cleaned. while UTR is cheaper. Now I feel regret edi. Spend more money but get same outcome.

This post has been edited by singchaii: Jun 22 2008, 09:04 AM

can we use external fuel pump arr? any side effect?

that 1 is dopeisgood after i install for a week it start come out some noise on uneven road. so i take it out n go sc to fix that noise oledi.

u gv us the list for parts that nid to change to efi lar. so that we will not kong by ppl lar......

How many people here is really serious wanna change to efi kit? If really, then I will help you guy get it BUT, you guy need to bank in deposit for me once I got those stuff..

howeii selling

Yala.. Last time howie told me jor is the same. But I dun wan listen. Now I just buying the K&N brand nia.

i still considering but i nid to know the list 1st
coz sometime after buy some parts liao that mech say nid this nid that till 1 week also cannot settle

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Added on June 22, 2008, 9:09 amonce he had he call me oledi but i didnt buy yet
but long term dunno any effect onli

This post has been edited by wkho555: Jun 22 2008, 09:09 AM

Err.. What Mech is that? But nevermind. Let me done first. When I finish done, then I let you guy know. most probably I will install it by my own. If you guy wanna install by me, then I can install but need charge for labour for my coming school fees. Haha.. izit fair enough?

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Added on June 22, 2008, 9:11 am the UTR, my friend using it around 8 months liao. Still very good.

This post has been edited by singchaii: Jun 22 2008, 09:11 AM

as long as car no problem and cheaper then outside then ok lor
nid how long?

This post has been edited by wkho555: Jun 22 2008, 09:13 AM

ah okay then.. and does the brands (powerzone, hotbits) make any difference as well ? i've seen most cars that have done extractor mod got their heatshield removed as well, is it compulsory?

any recommended places to get this done ?



This post has been edited by calvin: Jun 22 2008, 09:50 AM

depend of which type of extractor u use lo. prefering with heatshield to block some heat

pistons can tahan,...then the engine block how?

the UTR filter is dry rite? (no oil)
to get increased air flow with the same difference of pressure (dP), the nett space between the filter element's fibers has to be increase
assuming the UTR filter, which is dry, results in exactly the performance of the K&N filter, this means that they both have the same available flow path area
K&N relies on the sticky surface of it's filter element's fibers
particles stick to the element rather just flow past it
in the case of teh UTR filter, the particles will touch the filter element's fibers but be able to bounce off as there is no force to stop it

tests have been performed and if two filters have the same flow rate, the oiled filter for the most part always filter's the air better

conclusion: you will probably get the same performance increase even if you use the UTR rather than the K&N
but the long term negative effects on your engine would be much more with the UTR as chances are more dust and crap will make it into your combustion chamber

went to get my strut bar's bearing changed just now. Miragers was there to watch and report the outcome to the 3max manufacturer.

Even the workshop foremen admitted that this bar should be replaced. The bearing will definitely crack again, but since the accessories shop boss said that he dont mind replacing the bearing again and again and again, I just kept quiet and accept this 'short term' remedy.

Next time the bearing crack, Miragers offered to get replacement for me, event though i didnt buy the bar from him. The newer bar will have a better housing with proper damper for the bearings to absorb the vibrations.

bro, i want to make one point CLEAR, I AM NOT THE SELLER.

i go there to help blackpc report to my boss abt the accessories shop boss, coz his actions ruins the brand reputation

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Added on June 22, 2008, 12:36 pmi have a hunch that before we went to the workshop, the boss was actually on the phone with my boss right after i called.

This post has been edited by miragers: Jun 22 2008, 12:36 PM

But one thing I wanna say here.. No matter you use K&N or UTR, your carburetor also will spoile in the future as it claimed by proton itself. that the reason why proton void the warranty if using aftermarket air filter. K&N filter got oil 1 meh? Why my K&N look dry only?

Just came back from the challenger. See satria club and vsixer club have their TT there...

I just curious to know, how much does the 3max bar cost? Cause now I see the price list of 3MAX, the price is slightly different that Ultra Racing. And I just installed the UR rear strut bar, and I see the 3max rear strut bar price, the 3max is more expensive. Why? Now 3max have better quality and more solid that ultra racing already?

This post has been edited by singchaii: Jun 22 2008, 01:20 PM

yup, another factor is 3max is setting a price that will not hike anymore and also gap for you to bargain

in other words, the prices will not increase anymore but can be decrease but depends on your bargaining skills lor

come august, all other brand will increase... 3max will stay at that price

nvm la... buy adi dun think so much...

use external fuel pump no problem la... but recommended buy new one coz second ones are less efficient.... u dont revving hard halfway, fuel pump break down... causing ur engine to kaboom rite??..

efi list...
- intake manifold
- fuel pump / efi fuel tank
- injectors n fuel rail
- wiring n ecu
- o2 sensor and other necessory sensor
- efi distributor
- fuel filter

what else ah sifoo singchaii??...

me me... but how much first??...

most people remove heatshield coz their old heatshield no longer fit with aftermarket extractor... it is recommended to use heatshield lar....

u can diy one like this...



mayb the turbo piston he mentioned is low compression piston only... good for forced induction engine.... not forged piston la...
yea, UTR is dry stainless steel filter...

so troublesome each time bearing KO need to go and replace....

K&N got oil one lah... ur one looks dry because insufficient oil... but dont need to reoil so much la... as u said, oil might go into ur carburetor and dirty it...

The EFI, let me find out what it need when covert from carb to EFI. The important is get correct wiring n ecu.

Yes. It not a forged piston while is a low compression piston.