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 LYN Proton Saga/Iswara Drivers' Forum! with**V12**, V12 engine ^_^ SIE

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feralee
post May 8 2008, 06:06 PM

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QUOTE(blackpc @ May 8 2008, 02:36 PM)
pakai single layer servo ok sikit kot? no?
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u sudah cuba ka?

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post May 8 2008, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(feralee @ May 8 2008, 06:06 PM)
u sudah cuba ka?

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belum.. that's why asking around.

Assuming servo stock=kecik. Servo vr4=besar.

There must be some difference in power consumption between single layer and double layered servo. X begitu ke? unsure.gif

And maybe instead of going all the way up to vr4... maybe can use servo from waja/perdana... bigger than proton saga stock servo but still more powerful la...

So u still get better bite, without putting too much load on the engine.

What do u think? unsure.gif
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post May 8 2008, 06:25 PM

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QUOTE(blackpc @ May 8 2008, 05:55 PM)
well.. if the single layer servo bigger than stock, it'll still do a better job no? unsure.gif
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Sure double layer is better as the respond is more faster..

Just like you compare a AMD athlon 2.0 with AMD Athlon X2 2.0. Which is better? tongue.gif tongue.gif
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post May 8 2008, 07:10 PM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ May 8 2008, 06:25 PM)
Sure double layer is better as the respond is more faster..

Just like you compare a AMD athlon 2.0 with AMD Athlon X2 2.0. Which is better?  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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intel better!
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post May 8 2008, 07:12 PM

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QUOTE(domo_kun @ May 8 2008, 07:10 PM)
intel better!
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response better

if take dual layer with rear disk thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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post May 8 2008, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ May 8 2008, 02:34 PM)
But, it only happen when idling and step brake continuously. Normal driving, it so fun... Hehe..
No wonder la.. When idling, I step the brake then the gauge reading will drop to 15-10. haha...

this hood poison me alot.  sweat.gif
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wow..poison poison..the hood can fit saga without mod?
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post May 8 2008, 08:06 PM

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QUOTE(blackpc @ May 8 2008, 05:55 PM)
well.. if the single layer servo bigger than stock, it'll still do a better job no? unsure.gif
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that depends on the size of the servo... if single layer but diameter too big, also cannot fit into engine bay.... the place where u mount ur brake servo is vr limited... icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(blackpc @ May 8 2008, 06:22 PM)
belum.. that's why asking around.

Assuming servo stock=kecik. Servo vr4=besar.

There must be some difference in power consumption between single layer and double layered servo. X begitu ke?  unsure.gif

And maybe instead of going all the way up to vr4... maybe can use servo from waja/perdana... bigger than proton saga stock servo but still more powerful la...

So u still get better bite, without putting too much load on the engine.

What do u think?  unsure.gif
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perdana also using dual layer brake servo.... similar power compare to vr4 and so on....

QUOTE(singchaii @ May 8 2008, 06:25 PM)
Sure double layer is better as the respond is more faster..

Just like you compare a AMD athlon 2.0 with AMD Athlon X2 2.0. Which is better?  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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nono... should compare between 2 core duo and quad core... tongue.gif

QUOTE(feralee @ May 8 2008, 07:12 PM)
laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

response better

if take dual layer with rear disk  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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u tested before??... hmm.gif

QUOTE(flyingteeku @ May 8 2008, 08:01 PM)
wow..poison poison..the hood can fit saga without mod?
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yeap... plug n play... nod.gif
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post May 8 2008, 08:30 PM

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post May 8 2008, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(andychan @ May 8 2008, 08:30 PM)
Sick byzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz sad.gif
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tfk too much ah??..
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post May 8 2008, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ May 8 2008, 06:25 PM)
Sure double layer is better as the respond is more faster..

Just like you compare a AMD athlon 2.0 with AMD Athlon X2 2.0. Which is better?  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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i'm not comparing single layer with double layer.

I'm comparing stock proton saga servo with bigger single layer servo. icon_idea.gif


Added on May 8, 2008, 10:00 pm
QUOTE(the_catacombs @ May 8 2008, 08:06 PM)
that depends on the size of the servo... if single layer but diameter too big, also cannot fit into engine bay.... the place where u mount ur brake servo is vr limited... icon_rolleyes.gif
perdana also using dual layer brake servo.... similar power compare to vr4 and so on....

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ahh... my bad. notworthy.gif

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post May 8 2008, 10:27 PM

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QUOTE(flyingteeku @ May 8 2008, 08:01 PM)
wow..poison poison..the hood can fit saga without mod?
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Yup.. Plug and play.. But very pricy ler.. Rm400++ sweat.gif sweat.gif

QUOTE(the_catacombs @ May 8 2008, 08:06 PM)
that depends on the size of the servo... if single layer but diameter too big, also cannot fit into engine bay.... the place where u mount ur brake servo is vr limited... icon_rolleyes.gif
perdana also using dual layer brake servo.... similar power compare to vr4 and so on....
nono... should compare between 2 core duo and quad core...  tongue.gif
u tested before??...  hmm.gif
yeap... plug n play...  nod.gif
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When the mech installed that brake servo for me, he also shift my battery down abit.. Cause too big liao.. Then those metal hose, they also create again...

QUOTE(blackpc @ May 8 2008, 09:59 PM)
i'm not comparing single layer with double layer.

I'm comparing stock proton saga servo with bigger single layer servo.  icon_idea.gif


Added on May 8, 2008, 10:00 pm
ahh... my bad.  notworthy.gif
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Get double layer only la.. No regret.. The idling only run WHEN you step continuously at stand by mode. If driving that time, no any effect.. After upgrade to double layer, feel more confident on highway liao..
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post May 8 2008, 11:22 PM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ May 8 2008, 10:27 PM)

Get double layer only la.. No regret.. The idling only run WHEN you step continuously at stand by mode. If driving that time, no any effect.. After upgrade to double layer, feel more confident on highway liao..
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still thinking ler.. last time my fren's iswara 'flew' high on highway during light drizzle coz the tyres locked. That happened even after few years driving with bigger servo. sweat.gif sweat.gif
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QUOTE(blackpc @ May 8 2008, 11:22 PM)
still thinking ler.. last time my fren's iswara 'flew' high on highway during light drizzle coz the tyres locked. That happened even after few years driving with bigger servo.  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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the thumb rule is to control ur right leg... icon_rolleyes.gif
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post May 8 2008, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(blackpc @ May 8 2008, 11:22 PM)
still thinking ler.. last time my fren's iswara 'flew' high on highway during light drizzle coz the tyres locked. That happened even after few years driving with bigger servo.  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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Yeah.. It kinda dangerous... But, if you using good tire, maybe won't skid.. But the servo I using won't skid too much. Tested today as well.. 110km/h, jam brake the car still in control.. But can see a deep tire screeching mark on the road.
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post May 9 2008, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ May 8 2008, 11:48 PM)
Yeah.. It kinda dangerous... But, if you using good tire, maybe won't skid.. But the servo I using won't skid too much. Tested today as well.. 110km/h, jam brake the car still in control.. But can see a deep tire screeching mark on the road.
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if u can control ur brakes at the threshold of slipping is the best... means the hardest brake force u can apply without going into a slide/locking ur wheel....

i able to get it, at a controlled environment... laugh.gif once emergency confirm lock... tongue.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ May 9 2008, 12:02 AM)
if u can control ur brakes at the threshold of slipping is the best... means the hardest brake force u can apply without going into a slide/locking ur wheel....

i able to get it, at a controlled environment...  laugh.gif  once emergency confirm lock...  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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yalor.. If emergency, sure lock wheel.. Cause when emergency, we won't think anything. Only think, slam the pedal hard hard. Hehe...
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QUOTE(singchaii @ May 9 2008, 12:07 AM)
yalor.. If emergency, sure lock wheel.. Cause when emergency, we won't think anything. Only think, slam the pedal hard hard. Hehe...
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can consider install ABS laugh.gif


Added on May 9, 2008, 12:19 am
QUOTE(the_catacombs @ May 8 2008, 08:06 PM)
that depends on the size of the servo... if single layer but diameter too big, also cannot fit into engine bay.... the place where u mount ur brake servo is vr limited... icon_rolleyes.gif
perdana also using dual layer brake servo.... similar power compare to vr4 and so on....
nono... should compare between 2 core duo and quad core...  tongue.gif
u tested before??...  hmm.gif
yeap... plug n play...  nod.gif
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u r using it
sure u know ma nod.gif

This post has been edited by feralee: May 9 2008, 12:19 AM
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QUOTE(feralee @ May 9 2008, 12:18 AM)

Added on May 9, 2008, 12:19 am
u r using it
sure u know ma  nod.gif
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guy i hear GAB now got ajusterble sport ABS liow for saga iswara is it true ??????
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post May 9 2008, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ May 8 2008, 10:27 PM)
When the mech installed that brake servo for me, he also shift my battery down abit.. Cause too big liao.. Then those metal hose, they also create again...
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wah...ur engine bay kena rape liao...which metal hose u mean..?


Added on May 9, 2008, 10:48 am
QUOTE(singchaii @ May 8 2008, 11:48 PM)
Yeah.. It kinda dangerous... But, if you using good tire, maybe won't skid.. But the servo I using won't skid too much. Tested today as well.. 110km/h, jam brake the car still in control.. But can see a deep tire screeching mark on the road.
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wah..before this 40km/h top speed..after install servo become 110km/h.. shocking.gif

This post has been edited by flyingteeku: May 9 2008, 10:48 AM

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