haha 12Km considered far ? everytime i go to my gf's place which is 35 km away and 2 tolls , back another 35km and 3 tolls ... so u tell me man ... normally fr my house --> her house --> 1 U --> her house --> my house around 120-130 Km like that , havent kira if got go yumcha in between , n i drive a 2.5 litre cow ... but i dun mind haha