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tinsze
post Apr 16 2008, 11:23 AM


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Hey !!!pls help me.. I need a formal surat rayuan sampel.. I wana do ryuan for my matrikulasi application.. coz i need to enter matrik .. my parents cant possibly afford to pay for my college fees all.. I got 12As and i really wana enter matrik.. please.. somebody help me..please

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post Apr 16 2008, 11:31 AM


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gosh. 12As and not even matric? man!!! i think i should give you my matriculation offer since i get only 5As.

btw, you just wrote to the given address(use formal letter format) then state that. "my name is ...., active in ...., would like to appeal for matriculation. descrive yourself. your family condition(financial problem, etc)

give them all your cocuricullum certificate along with spm result. photocopied of course.
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post Apr 16 2008, 11:33 AM


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i feel like i wana cry now u noe....hv to write in BM rite?
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post Apr 16 2008, 11:38 AM


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better in bm. if in BI better provide translation.

just state that your father cannot support u financially. tell also in the letter you're capable of studying urself and can promise good result. just try it.

if failed to get into matric. go for f6. but just try and keep trying. me got 5As(2 a1, 3 a2) get matric. my friend who is malay get 5 A1 dun get matric. me malay too.
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post Apr 16 2008, 11:39 AM


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ok... by the way.. do u hv any idea where i can find a sample for those kinda letter?need a reference..thanks
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post Apr 16 2008, 11:42 AM


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since u got 12A, why not u write one and then we will give u some ideas and feedback.
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post Apr 16 2008, 11:42 AM


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hrmm...

i think i'll post it later(if i manage to find or make one).

btw. you can get a1 for bm pun x boleh karang surat sndiri ke. haha.
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post Apr 16 2008, 11:43 AM


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hey .. maybe u got an another offer ..

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post Apr 16 2008, 11:46 AM


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i thought 12a's enough for u to get 100% scholarship in any college already..then there score again

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post Apr 16 2008, 11:46 AM


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well i applied for JPA of coz.. but the rest of my classmates a few of them who applied oso got.. i'm not confident with the letter thingy.. not sure hw to make it in a way so tat it's more convincing....that's y i'm seeking for help...and thank u guys for lending me a helping hand


Added on April 16, 2008, 11:47 ambut i wana take dentistry course.. i went to AIMST the cheapest medical college in M'sia oso need 13000 juz for the foundation yr after all those tution fees waiver (youliang)

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post Apr 16 2008, 11:47 AM


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try overseas uni.
full scholarships i think
for matrikulasi.
that's not your terrority,
don't even think about it, not even close.


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post Apr 16 2008, 11:48 AM


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come on. don't down urself. with 12 As. many thing you can do. just try appealing for matric.
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post Apr 16 2008, 11:49 AM


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can't get matrik offer coz they think 12A should get a better offer than matrik
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post Apr 16 2008, 11:50 AM


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owh hahaha.. thx slices....but hw do u explain it when a fren of mine who get 13 As got it.?
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post Apr 16 2008, 11:51 AM


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QUOTE(tinsze @ Apr 16 2008, 11:50 AM)
owh hahaha.. thx slices....but hw do u explain it when a fren of mine who get 13 As got it.?
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your friend is the lucky one la... biggrin.gif
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post Apr 16 2008, 11:51 AM


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later I'll try to type a letter of it and u guys help me by giving me some opinions k.. and of coz.. those who manage to find some samples of those kinda letter pls post it for me.. and the other ppl who wana appeal for matrik too.. thx
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post Apr 16 2008, 11:52 AM


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^she's chinese.

just try to appeal.
one more thing. do expect a little racism.
because back in my days in SBP.
there were extreme racism.
but if you take the racism as challenge to prove that you're the best.
then it should be no problem.

btw, not all malay are racist. just that mostly who went for matric are from sbp and mrsm.
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post Apr 16 2008, 11:52 AM


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ya.. and i'm the not-so lucky one.. =P


Added on April 16, 2008, 11:53 amyes i noe.. juz like not all chinese are gud...hahaha..i noe not all malays are racism.. juz like u destroyer..=P

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post Apr 16 2008, 11:53 AM


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just try it.

you'll never know.
i think it's normal for non-bumi to get matric by appealing.
just try ur luck.
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post Apr 16 2008, 11:55 AM


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12A's don't know how to write surat rayuan? I did all the "surat-menyurat" to private/govt since primary school.

Just write one, show us the draft and we'll review it.
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post Apr 16 2008, 11:58 AM


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yeah. just write one and post preview here.

we will help you edit and add more point.
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post Apr 16 2008, 11:58 AM


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QUOTE(cks2k2 @ Apr 16 2008, 11:55 AM)
12A's don't know how to write surat rayuan? I did all the "surat-menyurat" to private/govt since primary school.

Just write one, show us the draft and we'll review it.
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smile.gif okie.........y evyon is asking me i 12As dono hw to write surat rasmi..?i'm juz not confident enuf lar...thx anyway


Added on April 16, 2008, 12:10 pmfor cocurriculum.. I'm a prefect head assistant.. secretary for chinese club and deputy treasurer for volleyball club..I participate in both parlimentary style englush debate and oso chinese calligraphy competition till district level. i took part in biology and science quiz but din win..I'm a PTS student.. do u guys think i stand a chance to win this "battle"?

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post Apr 16 2008, 12:13 PM


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haha. dgn kelayakan ko. sure ok punya. ak pun cuma ad 3 sijil.

dun worry. just try it. blum cuba blum tau.

walaupun org cakap ko cina susah nk dpt matric. tp ko mne tau. cube je.

just try it. and, be quick. moreover there will be many empty slots because most who got matric dun want to go. because it is very tough in matric.
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post Apr 16 2008, 12:14 PM


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ok destroyer.. I'm typing the letter now...
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post Apr 16 2008, 12:14 PM


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yeah dun worry..i'm sure u will get it =)
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post Apr 16 2008, 12:17 PM


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QUOTE(xsakurax @ Apr 16 2008, 12:14 PM)
yeah dun worry..i'm sure u will get it =)
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Added on April 16, 2008, 12:17 pmi wana noe.. to who my letter shud b direct to?


Added on April 16, 2008, 12:18 pmi found de.. nvm,

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12 A and not getting any place?
What is happening to Malaysia's education this days?!....

TS, don't waste time in Matriks.
Apply for scholarship with Shell, Petronas, TNB, TM, The Star or NST (which always got offer scholarship) and go direct to Uni instead of going through Matriculation.

If you seriously want to make this big, go to your area rep and complain to an assemblymen or sort and make a big fuss about it in the paper. Suer there would be help offered after that.

Cheers and Good lUck!
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post Apr 16 2008, 12:23 PM


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QUOTE(b00n @ Apr 16 2008, 12:21 PM)
12 A and not getting any place?
What is happening to Malaysia's education this days?!....

TS, don't waste time in Matriks.
Apply for scholarship with Shell, Petronas, TNB, TM, The Star or NST (which always got offer scholarship) and go direct to Uni instead of going through Matriculation.

If you seriously want to make this big, go to your area rep and complain to an assemblymen or sort and make a big fuss about it in the paper. Suer there would be help offered after that.

Cheers and Good lUck!
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thx boon for ur suggestion// but as far as i noe.. those scholarship din offer scholarship for dentistry courses...
i had been hunting high and low for that kinda scholarship but dun hv......
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post Apr 16 2008, 12:27 PM


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Langkah-langkah membuat Rayuan Kemasukan Matrikulasi Tahun 2008/2009

1.Sila menyediakan dan menghantarkan dokumen-dokumen berikut ke alamat di bawah:-
(i)Surat Rayuan (WAJIB);
(ii)salinan Keputusan SPM yang telah disahkan (WAJIB);
Bahagian Matrikulasi
Kementerian Pelajaran Malaysia
Aras 6, Blok E15, Kompleks Kerajaan Parcel E
Pusat Pentadbiran Kerajaan Persekutuan
62604 Putrajaya
Tel: 03-8884 4100
***Tarikh tutup rayuan bagi pihak Bahagian Matrikulasi, KPM adalah pada 30hb April 2008***


2.Sila menyediakan dokumen-dokumen dan menghantar bersama salinan Borang Rayuan MCA yang dapat dimuat turun dari http://youth.mca.org.my ke alamat berikut:-
(i)salinan Surat Rayuan (WAJIB);
(ii)salinan Keputusan SPM yang telah disahkan (WAJIB);
(iii)salinan Kad Akuan Penerimaan;
(iv)salinan Penyata bayaran Pencen ATAU Slip Penyata Pendapatan ATAU bukti-bukti pendapatan Ibubapa/penjaga yang telah disahkan (WAJIB);
(v)salinan Kad Pengenalan (WAJIB);
(vi)salinan sijil berhenti sekolah ATAU surat perakuan (testimonial) sekolah;
(vii)salinan dokumen-dokumen khas[cth: sijil kematian ibubapa @ surat bercerai](JIKA ADA).

Pemuda MCA Kebangsaan - Biro Pendidikan
7th Floor, Wisma MCA
163, Jalan Ampang,
50450 Kuala Lumpur
Tel: 03-2161 8044
3.Tarikh tutup: 28hb April 2008

form can be downloaded from http://youth.mca.org.my

dennis~~(the Chinese version which Wendy191 posted din't work well when i use mozilla firefox.. not sure what happened)

hehe i found it from other forum..hope it can help u =X

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QUOTE(tinsze @ Apr 16 2008, 12:23 PM)
thx boon for ur suggestion// but as far as i noe.. those scholarship din offer scholarship for dentistry courses...
i had been hunting high and low for that kinda scholarship but dun hv......
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oh...so you wanted to pursue on dental.
Good luck than as most scholarship are for engineerings.
However, you could still apply for scholarship from the uni that is in your mind.
State scholarship too with the help of state assemblymen fighting your case.

Worst case, apply loan...PTPTN or something like that (not that popular during my time)

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post Apr 16 2008, 12:30 PM


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ya loan.. good point.. but PTPTN as i noe max oso till 180K oni....if cant get any scholarship definitely i'll go for loan.. dun wana burden my family...


Added on April 16, 2008, 12:31 pmthank you vry much sakura.. thx thx thx........

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QUOTE(destroyer @ Apr 16 2008, 11:52 AM)
^she's chinese.

just try to appeal.
one more thing. do expect a little racism.
because back in my days in SBP.
there were extreme racism.
but if you take the racism as challenge to prove that you're the best.
then it should be no problem.

btw, not all malay are racist. just that mostly who went for matric are from sbp and mrsm.
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gosh, extreme racism?

what u mean by that? like beating up other people? shakehead.gif

omg, i wonder if i shud accept the matrik offer...
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QUOTE(tinsze @ Apr 16 2008, 12:30 PM)
ya loan.. good point.. but PTPTN as i noe max oso till 180K oni....if cant get any scholarship definitely i'll go for loan.. dun wana burden my family...


Added on April 16, 2008, 12:31 pmthank you vry much sakura.. thx thx thx........
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last year i have 3 friends who got JPA and matriks but all of them are top students of course. on the other hand, i failed to get even i appealed for 2 times. just appeal through MCA. since you have 12As, you'll have priority to get it.

* requirement for dental is very high to get JPA scholarship. do you have 10A1 and above?
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yeah. there are some case the indian got beaten.
because he make something wrong. but he was creating a prob.
he is gay. he abuse lot of junior student. he then get beaten before expelled from school.

and some of non-bumi in there get a lot of mocking.

i dunno what will happen in matric.
because most who enter matric are from sbp & mrsm.
just dun be afraid. most of them have grown up.


if you're chinese and get matric. go for it. there's no prob. the racism you might get mybe just "ejek" but for me and many other student. sapa2 yg ejek org lain nmpak sgt cam budak2. so. ko xyah risau. pegi je.

racism in matric mybe around 2 people out of 100.

btw, another factor that cause discrimination is because you guys just hang out with ur types. so, we will see you as racist because you don't get along with other people.

once u r in there. mix up. dun be alone or "berpuak-puak". and dun get distracted while in study. pulun abes2. that's the tips i get from my senior.

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QUOTE(destroyer @ Apr 16 2008, 01:09 PM)
yeah. there are some case the indian got beaten.
because he make something wrong. but he was creating a prob.
he is gay. he abuse lot of junior student. he then get beaten before expelled from school.

and some of non-bumi in there get a lot of mocking.

i dunno what will happen in matric.
because most who enter matric are from sbp & mrsm.
just dun be afraid. most of them have grown up.
if you're chinese and get matric. go for it. there's no prob. the racism you might get mybe just "ejek" but for me and many other student. sapa2 yg ejek org lain nmpak sgt cam budak2. so. ko xyah risau. pegi je.

racism in matric mybe around 2 people out of 100.

btw, another factor that cause discrimination is because you guys just hang out with ur types. so, we will see you as racist because you don't get along with other people.

once u r in there. mix up. dun be alone or "berpuak-puak". and dun get distracted while in study. pulun abes2. that's the tips i get from my senior.
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lol this thing still happen?haiz....why want to tease each other ler.... =______=''
at school i have many chinese friends....but we are really close eventhough we are from different races =)
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im worried they'll leave me out rather i leave them out.

many times i befriend ppl of other races, then they still regard their own kind as best friends, while im just like someone to talk to when bored.

thx for the advice destroyer. hope ur advice doesnt destroy me. tongue.gif
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ya .. i hv loads of malay and indian fren too.. vry close somemore... owh okie..lyr.. I din put much hope for JPA coz i oni get 9 A1.. and u noe wat subject i got A2 for? its morale mathematics and EST.. vry sarcastic.. morale... this subject they make it so difficult to score A1.. really ridiculous u noe. and my math modern... i got A1 for my add maths.. sweat.gif ...sometimes i rally enjoy being frens with ppl from other races.. its like learning sth new.. and malays and indians are vry much more sporting than some of the chinese.... but i dono y racism still exist in Malaysia.. sad.gif haiz

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QUOTE(tinsze @ Apr 16 2008, 01:33 PM)
ya .. i hv loads of malay and indian fren too.. vry close somemore... owh okie..lyr.. I din put much hope for JPA coz i oni get 9 A1.. and u noe wat subject i got A2 for? its morale mathematics and EST.. vry sarcastic.. morale... this subject they make it so difficult to score A1.. really ridiculous u noe. and my math modern... i got A1 for my add maths..  sweat.gif ...sometimes i rally enjoy being frens with ppl from other races.. its like learning sth new.. and malays and indians are vry much more sporting than some of the chinese.... but i dono y racism still exist in Malaysia.. sad.gif haiz
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ouch....i'm sure u r dissapointed with ur math =__=''' haiz nvm 9A1 is consider quite goodler~yup i also dunno why many people like to be racism...we all are human rite?anyway have u start writing ur letter? =)
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yea i'm writing.. but i hv to get prepare 1st.. coz later i hv to work.. c if i can get a holiday today.. if not mayb i'll write and post it tonite.. i juz done till my tajuk part..
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kk...good luck ~~dun worry too much =)
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thx sakura....
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i failed!
my spm 12A too!
petronas, tnb, bnm, khazanah nasional, ytm rejected my application.
only jpa- i went through interview!
any idea?
Form 6 or matrikulasi better?
i want to appeal matrik!
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same case with me.... i oso went to the interview.. wat course u wana take myself_psl?
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Sigh, kids these days. Let me just give you a quick one.

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Tuan/Puan,

Rayuan untuk Aplikasi Matrikulasi <add the full title here>

1. Merujuk kepada perkara di atas, saya <insert name + IC + application number or whatever important thing> ingin membuat rayuan untuk tempat di dalam program matrikulasi <insert full program name here>.

2. Ini kerana situasi kewangan keluarga saya tidak mampu untuk membiayai pendidikan saya di dalam bidang <insert field here>. Tambahan pula pencapaian akademik saya di dalam peperiksaan SPM 2007 (<insert grades here>) amat baik dan saya amat berminat di dalam bidang <insert field here>.

3. Saya berharap tuan/puan akan mempertimbangi permintaan saya.

Terima kasih.

<sign, name etc>
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Done in < 10 mins, and this for an old man who hasn't used BM much.
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i apply pharmacy for jpa!
as long as i can further my studies, it's ok!
haha!
good luck for ur matrik!
maybe jpa want u!
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Sigh, kids these days. Let me just give you a quick one.

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Tuan/Puan,

Rayuan untuk Aplikasi Matrikulasi <add the full title here>

1. Merujuk kepada perkara di atas, saya <insert name + IC + application number or whatever important thing> ingin membuat rayuan untuk tempat di dalam program matrikulasi <insert full program name here>.

2. Ini kerana situasi kewangan keluarga saya tidak mampu untuk membiayai pendidikan saya di dalam bidang <insert field here>. Tambahan pula pencapaian akademik saya di dalam peperiksaan SPM 2007 (<insert grades here>) amat baik dan saya amat berminat di dalam bidang <insert field here>.

3. Saya berharap tuan/puan akan mempertimbangi permintaan saya.

Terima kasih.

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i apply pharmacy for jpa!
as long as i can further my studies, it's ok!
haha!
good luck for ur matrik!
maybe jpa want u!
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u're like asking me to think the bright side.. hahaha.. i hope the reason y i din get accepted into matrik is coz JPA accept me.. hahaha.. by the wway.. good luck to u too!!!

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i am so so HAPPY today!!! I got full A1s (ok, I got B for chinese) but I still cant get into matric!!! Doesnt that deserve some celebrations?

P.S I'm a chinese though. haha

btw, i am counting on MCA youth to help me get a place. wink.gif

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i am so so HAPPY today!!! I got full A1s (ok, I got B for chinese) but I still cant get into matric!!! Doesnt that deserve some celebrations?

P.S I'm a chinese though. haha
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(iii)salinan Kad Akuan Penerimaan

wat is this?
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i tink when u hv submitted all the borang and stuff, they will send you a yellow card saying that they have received ur application. Well, thats wht i think.
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yup u will get the card if u send ur application using omr form =X
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oh my god!!!!
i hv threw it into dustbin!
so...
how?

i got 9As, and oso failed...
haha!
wana go matric lo...
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lol u throw it away ar?erm....then i'm not sure how...sorry =_=''
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can anyone scan it and attach it?
so, i can print it out, and modify it...
since it only need salinan, so i think wont be a problem.
hehe.
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erm...on the kad akuan got the omr form number..do u remember urs?
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then...
this time..
o no...


Added on April 16, 2008, 2:37 pmhaiz...
it is ok...
fine...
thx for help...
i think i have no chance alrdy...

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haha.
just call the matrics and tell them you lost it. if lucky might get an exception

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Pelajar yang layak tetapi gagal boleh membuat rayuan secara bertulis dengan melampirkan salinan keputusan SPM yang disahkan dan dihantar tidak lewat daripada tarikh 30 April 2008 kepada:

Bahagian Matrikulasi

Aras 6, Blok E15, Parcel E

Kompleks Pentadbiran Kerajaan Persekutuan

62604 Putrajaya.

Keputusan rayuan boleh diketahui pada 26 Mei 2008 melalui :.
I. Laman web di atas atau
II. Sistem SMS dengan menaip MAR jarak NO KP(pelajar) ke 33778.
III. Talian bantuan Bahagian Matrikulasi 03-88844100 juga boleh dihubungi dari 8.30 pagi hingga 4.00 petang (hari bekerja sahaja).


@tinsze : try this. state that you are capable to mix around and not racist. just do it. but, if you can, wrote it in bm. sebab arahan utk buat rayuan dlm BM. jd better bwat dlm BM.

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Seriously, I'd take JPA or even Form 6 over matrikulasi any day.
I've seen enough cases of ppl not allowed to continue to degree after matrikulasi.
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yeah. if you get below 3.00 in matric. you're doom...
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QUOTE(destroyer @ Apr 16 2008, 02:59 PM)
yeah. if you get below 3.00 in matric. you're doom...
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Actually they were top of the class and yet not allowed to continue to degree.
One of them is my relative: did matrikulasi in some medic-related course in USM Kubang Kerian, best student but not allowed to continue to degree.
The other is a classmate's brother in engineering, what I heard was he protest by not showing up to get his scroll and some book prize.

Granted it happened > 5 years ago, but hey, we're not exactly living in a fully meritocratic society and despite what politicians say, things haven't really changed.

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My cousin get 9A1 the rest 2A, got 3B and 4B also but already accepted for Matriculation. Chinese by the way.

Is it true you must get above 3.0 in Matriculation? huh.gif
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yeah. to get into your dream course in IPTA. if not, you'll be getting course like perikanan or perhutanan.

for medic and dentistry. wajib 4.00.
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for me i prefer to go to their office at Putrajaya. well that my plan to do the rayuan thing... sigh sad.gif

oh yeah anyway what the deffrence between program satu tahun & dua tahun????? if i dont get program satu tahun does that menas i don get the 2 tahun either.?

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heard that if you get into matric, you won't get a place in F6 and vice versa... not sure if that's true...

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2.8.1 Withdrawal from all registered subjects in any semester means withdrawal from the Matriculation Programme. Student's withdrawal from the program can only be considered on medical reason or other reasons that are acceptable to the director. The director will not accept student's withdrawal on a reason related to student's under-achievement in any subject or on the reason that student is not ready for the subject or is not satisfied with any subject

2.8.2 Written application must be sent to the respective college director (one copy is to be sent to BMKPM). For withdrawal on medical reasons, the student is required to enclose a complete medical report which proves student's disability to continue with his/her studies in a particular semester.

2.8.3 Withdrawal from matriculation program, on the reason of receiving offer from other IPTS/IPT for post SPM program, after enrolment is not allowed. Compensation as in the agreement signed has to be paid by the student.


yup. unless you got scholarship like JPA or MARA. then can only go out. even got IPTA cannot go.


Added on April 16, 2008, 3:58 pm2 year program is different than 1 year program. if i'm not mistaken, 2 year program can be checked around may/june

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but if we actually got the matrik thingy means we wont b withdraw from JPA list rite.
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nope. my bro enter matric for 1 month before get out to pursue Medic under JPA. he get program perubatan timur tengah. if your case is the same as my bro. of course u can.
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owh.. thx alot.. and u're so amazing.. stayed here for so long time..
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Well...

Saya sebagai graduan SPM yg menanam anggur akan memberikan komitmen 18 jam sehari kpd komuniti online. mwahaha.
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menanam anggur?okie.. now i juz got my holiday and i gonna type my letter nw.. if i really get my matrik or JPA.. i think i'll do the same thing like u did.. helping out those lowyat-ians.. hahaha
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if you get dentistry. i want teeth cleaning with 50% discount.
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oh my god!!!!
i hv threw it into dustbin!
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how?

i got 9As, and oso failed...
haha!
wana go matric lo...
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Hey !!!pls help me.. I need a formal surat rayuan sampel.. I wana do ryuan for my matrikulasi application.. coz i need to enter matrik .. my parents cant possibly afford to pay for my college fees all.. I got 12As and i really wana enter matrik.. please.. somebody help me..please
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at last i have found a friend... matrik is just stupid in student selection..i got 12As as well..i got other scholarships like Bank Negara Malaysia , petronas, etc etc but matrik didn't offer me ... i mean i applied la of course...

i think what u should do is to write a very good letter...and there are some documents u must hand in as well for the appeal(im not sure coz i didn't bother appealing but my friend did..try ask ur sec school advisor ) and then get some recommendation letter from a DUN or MP in your area... it worked for me (for other applications) most of the times.... good luck...

p/s with your 12As results, go somewhere better and get some better education..dont waste your time with form6 or matrikulasi..
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but the money .... if i'm loaded with this result of coz i wont go for matrik,,
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did u not apply for other scholarships ? im not paying a single cent for my studies now...im doing one of the most expensive A level in malaysia and im going UK in a year's time. there are opportunities everywhere my dear.

first of all, a lot of private colleges offer scholarships . for instance, sunway taylors NIC etc.. btw for sunway , it is minimum 11A1 last year, not sure bout this year. they sponcor at least A level if not undergraduate level but you can look for scholarship again after A level or pre-U but i personally don't like this path because there isn't any security.

next u can move on to full scholarships like khazanah which is very good. next, we have BNM, SHELL , PETRONAS , SIME DARBY and even EMIRATES. Then we go down to JPA, FELDA etc...and then down again to like TARC waiver etc.. for this u have to work closely with your friends to do research. last year, i got together with my friends and did all the research even before SPM results was out. We managed to get hold of one whole list(around 30+ maybe) scholarships...

it is very very important to get a good education yeah... extremely important...
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i wana study dentistry courses.. not much scholarship sponsoring for that kinda course..
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dentistry true enough not many scholarships offer that course..but there are some which don't take into account what course you want to do ...but for sure Petronas and BNM don't offer that.

not to forget that even if u get into form6/matrik , u might be not offered dentistry at the end of the day. Even if u do, u might not get the U u want..

btw not to be sensitive here, just be sensible, are u bumi ?
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of coz not...that's y... petronas and BNM xced the closing date oredi rite..?I'm so regret all this while i tot coz they dun offe the courses i wan so i din apply..
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petronas interview also coming liao lo sure closed d....BNM also they have already shortlisted the applicants.. hehe thats why ..i told myself i had to find myself a sponcor/ get myself a scholarship becoz if i didn't, my dad was going to send me to KDU or anywhere i want in MALAYSIA.... don't regret, i think what i would do now is to wait for JPA ...if can't get JPA then appeal through MCA.. if still cant then go into form 6... if u go for form 6 u have to make sure u study freaking hard and get 4As ...becoz after stpm u can still apply for many prestigious scholarships...even if you are talking bout IPTA , u will have a bigger chance in getting the course u want.
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one thing.. i planned to study in AIMST and apply for wateva loan i can ge b4 this.... but they said even after stpm i'll hv to sit for their foundation again which cost approximately rm 13k even after the fees waiver..any idea there's any loan that i can apply for?
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PTPTN loans money to everyone i thought ??? try checking PTPTN coz im not sure... hehe my brother managed to get Rm110,000 loan from PTPTN to study medic...
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medic courses fees cost i bet is double of that amount of money..
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yeah but what i meant was ptptn gives loan to almost all courses right ? i have friends studying in tarc and got a few thousand ringgit loan from ptptn.. but for ptptn u must be accepted by a school before u can apply right? correct me if im wrong.
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did u not apply for other scholarships ?  im not paying a single cent for my studies now...im doing one of the most expensive A level in malaysia and im going UK in a year's time. there are opportunities everywhere my dear.

first of all, a lot of private colleges offer scholarships . for instance, sunway  taylors NIC etc.. btw for sunway , it is minimum 11A1 last year, not sure bout this year. they sponcor at least A level if not undergraduate level but you can look for scholarship again after A level or pre-U but i personally don't like this path because there isn't any security.

next u can move on to full scholarships like khazanah which is very good. next, we have BNM, SHELL , PETRONAS , SIME DARBY and even EMIRATES. Then we go down to JPA, FELDA  etc...and then down again to like TARC waiver etc.. for this u have to work closely with your friends to do research. last year, i got together with my friends and did all the research even before SPM results was out. We managed to get hold of one whole list(around 30+ maybe) scholarships...

it is very very important to get a good education yeah... extremely important...
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TS: I still suggest F6/A-lvl over matrikulasi. With STPM/A-lvl you can apply to any school on the planet.
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yeah but what i meant was ptptn gives loan to almost all courses right ? i have friends studying in tarc and got a few thousand ringgit loan from ptptn.. but for ptptn u must be accepted by a school before u can apply right? correct me if im wrong.
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Added on April 16, 2008, 5:23 pmcks2k2.. owh.. ok.. i'm considering them.. really

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Wow, I wished I had planned as well as you have when I was your age.  notworthy.gif
I just wanted to finish SPM and lepak.

TS: I still suggest F6/A-lvl over matrikulasi. With STPM/A-lvl you can apply to any school on the planet.
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haha yea planning is important... my dad won't send me overseas ...so i had to find my own way...
true with a lvl and stpm , one can apply to almost any schools but the thing with our friend here is she needs scholarship/loan to ease the parents' burden... so she cannot get a free a level from taylors and then go for a private college... one downside of A lvl is that u cannot enter IPTA ..personally i do not understand the logic..perhaps it is only MALAYSIA which doesn't recognize A lvl heh ? MALAYSIA BOLEH !!!

QUOTE(tinsze @ Apr 16 2008, 05:22 PM)
u're right... we apply thru the college.


Added on April 16, 2008, 5:23 pmcks2k2.. owh.. ok.. i'm considering them.. really
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do consider nicely..and dont forget to look at NIC ..nilai international college...during my time...erm ok...it was just last year tongue.gif they provide free education for students who obtain 8As / 8A1s either 1...until DEGREE LEVEL !!!!! not only pre u but until UNDERGRADUATE !!!!! NO JOKE... u can go check whether they are still doing this and whether or not they offer the course u want....

i read in another thread that u are having a dilemma .... for Christ's sake...a clinical psychologist can earn a lot of money .... do not listen to your teachers or whoever.... deny them..even your parents if u have to ..go your own way ... DO NOT REGRET LATER ON !!! DO NOT !!!! studying psychology, it is useless if u stop at degree level..but if u go for clinical psycho , finish your masters and phd....come on , you can earn alot of money ..you can open a clinic, attach with major hospitals, attach with big firms or even work in corporate world....

no doubt that malaysia is lacking of dentists.... i gave it a thought too ..hehe but decided that i dont want to see people's mouth and smell ppl's breathe for the rest of my life.... hehe
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go to your MP, or state assemblyman ask for their surat sokongan, I'm sure they will help.
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owh jcheok2.. when u bcome a dentist u wear a mask over ur face..u make a lot of money.. but not in malaysia.....now i'm in a big big mess.. the oni thing i wana do is i wana get my letter done.. and then oni i can arrange my mind to think properly.. wat else i shud do.. thx
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most of them will help i guess... it so happen that the one in my area is a family friend..hehe ...so it was easy for me to ask for help every time i need it..so basically i use the recommendation letter every time..even for things like National Service deferring ..etc etc... hehe
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can u help me then.. hahahaha
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I get matrik but i have decided to go for foundation.
But my two friends both of them 10As don't get sad.gif

I get but i don't want go, they want go but they don't get. sweat.gif
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haha i can help u de if you are from seremban LOL ....
i dont know all MPs DUNs all over Malaysia ..hahaha
but they are suppose to help u la...regardless its a friend or not...
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seriously if i'm loaded definitely i'll go foundation.. hahaha
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QUOTE(tinsze @ Apr 16 2008, 05:58 PM)
seriously if i'm loaded definitely i'll go foundation.. hahaha
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only able to pay for foundation year and loan from ptptn for degree sad.gif
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ya and ur courses dun cost tat much.............

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haha xiao mei mei ...dont think of the IFs liao lo ....think of what u can do now hehe list out all options ...then choose the best one :>

one more thing ..dont plan all on your own and at the end of the day you find that your parents cannot support u ..

sit down nicely with your parents... ask them how much they can/willing to support u etc...and tell them what/where/how are u interested to do and u hope that they can support u .. this is very important...so that you do not make plans that cannot be done later on.
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http://youth.mca.org.my/Chinese/Form%20Lib...ikulasi2008.pdf

I think it's usefull... You may have a try.

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my letter is almost done... muahaha
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QUOTE(keith_hjinhoh @ Apr 16 2008, 06:10 PM)
http://youth.mca.org.my/Chinese/Form%20Lib...ikulasi2008.pdf

I think it's usefull... You may have a try.

PS: I'm not promoting MCA, but i saw this at newspaper.
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yes good one.. all the documents required are listed there..
but i would still go to a DUN/mp to get my recommendation letter...besides u can type another letter telling why u need the matrik so much ... tell la bla bla bebanan keluarga yang banyak ...berhasrat nak melanjutkan pelajaran di IPTA ...tell la u got 12As and ko-ku not bad...etc etc....and then hand in together...
and the income column pandai pandai make it sensibly as low as possible but it must be supported by J form la...

p/s after this year ...we might be sending letters to PKR / anwar for help heh ?? LOL .....

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hahaha.. my mom is a teacher thus the income part cant "PANDAI- PANDAI".. hahaha.. but my dad is not working...
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omg your mom is a government servant ? isn't that suppose to mean it is easier for u to apply for scholarship etc ? maybe u shud make an effort to mention that because they do give more consideration for anak kakitangan kerajaan....

neway im going for dinner liao ...hehe if u need any help dont hesitate to ask ... my BM used to be quite good ...lol...pm or msn also ok....wish u all the best...i just think ..with your results ..you deserve some good education....
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owh ok.. thx alot for ur help.. i added u already..dun forget to approve me k
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QUOTE(jcheok2 @ Apr 16 2008, 06:16 PM)
yes good one.. all the documents required are listed there..
but i would still go to a DUN/mp to get my recommendation letter...besides u can type another letter telling why u need the matrik so much ... tell la bla bla bebanan keluarga yang banyak ...berhasrat nak melanjutkan pelajaran di IPTA ...tell la u got 12As and ko-ku not bad...etc etc....and then hand in together...
and the income column pandai pandai make it sensibly as low as possible but it must be supported by J form la...

p/s after this year ...we might be sending letters to PKR / anwar for help heh ?? LOL  .....
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Not really J-Form, you can go to pejabat tanah to get a letter state that your parent are penjaja, nelayan or something like that, those no need J-form 1. The letter is equivalent to J-Form.
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if can't means, just try private uni la. surely u can scholarship from NGOs or private companies. try to relax even though i know its kind of hard. keep your mind clear miss. blush.gif
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QUOTE(skinnydude @ Apr 16 2008, 06:35 PM)
if can't means, just try private uni la. surely u can scholarship from NGOs or private companies. try to relax even though i know its kind of hard. keep your mind clear miss.  blush.gif
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thx.. dentistry courses not much NGO wana sponsor... if u get to noe any of them e-mail me... thx ya
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i'm studying in UNITEN, most of us could get PTPTN loan. and seeing from your state (mum only working), i think u can get full loan. maybe have to add a little more. if u have good SPM grades, u can get scholarship. that's what my friends did once they entered UNITEN. applying for scholarship once entering uni with their SPM grades.

miss, if can't densitry, try other course ah. that's not the end of the world. so, all the best with your future.. nod.gif

btw, how can u accumulate 50 posts within 17 days? respect u.. flex.gif

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i dono... ppl sympathy me it hink.. hahaha.. u mean we can apply for scholarships when we enroll in UNI or college?
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icon_question.gif cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif U know wat? I think each and every year of the Matriculation is not fair!!! Why??? Bcos only bumiputera got! My fren who get 1A only and others are B C and D and he can get into matric then my others fren that get Straight A 7A 8A 9A can't get into matric. But if Bumi can, chinese can't. Last year 3 bumi got 7A 8A and 9A each one they can get into matric. THis year chinese get more 7A but can't get into matric. Why???

Me myself get 9A can't get into matric. Last year 1malay got 9A in my school yet she can!
I 1 2 to cry!!! icon_question.gif

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it depends on ur luck...got this chinese boy who is not bumiputra get matrix but he only got 5A for spm =X

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QUOTE(Geoffrey @ Apr 16 2008, 06:58 PM)
icon_question.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif U know wat? I think each and every year of the Matriculation is not fair!!! Why??? Bcos only bumiputera got! My fren who get 1A only and others are B C and D and he can get into matric then my others fren that get Straight A 7A 8A 9A can't get into matric. But if Bumi can, chinese can't. Last year 3 bumi got 7A 8A and 9A each one they can get into matric. THis year chinese get more 7A but can't get into matric. Why???

Me myself get 9A can't get into matric. Last year 1malay got 9A in my school yet she can!
I 1 2 to cry!!! icon_question.gif

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there's an explanation for this matter dear... bcoz we live in Malaysia.. look at the name of our country.. the 1st 5 alphabet tell us who hv the power okie(of coz not that those malay student wana b bad to us.. the ppl is innocent..juz the government..so dun blame those who get the matrik.. they are lucky.. and dun cry coz we din get it.. coz it's not our fault.. lets appeal it okie...).. dun cry.. i understand how u feel... coz i'm feeling the same way too...
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QUOTE(xsakurax @ Apr 16 2008, 07:02 PM)
it depends on ur luck...got this chinese boy who is not bumiputra get matrix but he only got 5A for spm =X
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ya.. now i think coz i'm not-so lucky.. but i'll fight for my rights!!!!
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QUOTE(tinsze @ Apr 16 2008, 07:02 PM)
there's an explanation for this matter dear... bcoz we live in Malaysia.. look at the name of our country.. the 1st 5 alphabet tell us who hv the power okie(of coz not that those malay student wana b bad to us.. the ppl is innocent..juz the government..so dun blame those who get the matrik.. they are lucky.. and dun cry coz we din get it.. coz it's not our fault.. lets appeal it okie...).. dun cry.. i understand how u feel... coz i'm feeling the same way too...
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I hope goverment come and read here.
Is chinese not a citizen that live here? Or we're jz alien that tumpang to live here???
I'm so sad. cry.gif
I expect for this few years ago.
I'm the top in school but ppl get 1A only can get into Mat jz bcos he is bumi!!!
I work so hard to get into matric during SPM!
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dun worry .. we can appeal it... where do u stay btw?if u wan to u can straght go to putrajaya and voice up ur woes there okie?
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dun worry .. we can appeal it... where do u stay btw?if u wan to u can straght go to putrajaya and voice up ur woes there okie?
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I live in a kwsn Luar bandar in Sarawak. Luar bandar a. It's not easy to study. I never go 4 tuition outside.

And...
i never blame 4 those who r success. i jz blame gvmnt why they r very unfair???
after this wat should i do?
if we rayu then we'll know at 26 of mei. ppl get into mat at 12 of mei. we go in lately sure we far left behind.

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For those who are not satisfied with the Matrics result, why don't you try to make a complaint to Warkah Untuk PM . Make it like a formal enquiries without any emotional and dirty words so they will take it as a serious matter .. and let's see what they will reply in 3 days .. wub.gif

P/s: Don't forget to publish the reply letter here .. drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif
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QUOTE(Irzani @ Apr 16 2008, 07:20 PM)
For those who are not satisfied with the Matrics result, why don't you try to make a complaint to Warkah Untuk PM . Make it like a formal enquiries without any emotional and dirty words so they will take it as a serious matter .. and let's see what they will reply in 3 days ..  wub.gif

P/s: Don't forget to publish the reply letter here ..  drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif
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excuse me? 3 days? can they reply in 3 days if we complain?
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excuse me? 3 days? can they reply in 3 days if we complain?
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Depends on the situation... but from what I've experienced so far using this portal, since this website is under "Biro Pengaduan Awam" under prime minister, the agencies involved need to reply it within 3 days but still everything will be depends on the cases whether complicated or not .. just try .. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(Irzani @ Apr 16 2008, 07:29 PM)
Depends on the situation... but from what I've experienced so far using this portal, since this website is under "Biro Pengaduan Awam" under prime minister, the agencies involved need to reply it within 3 days but still everything will be depends on the cases whether complicated or not .. just try ..  icon_rolleyes.gif
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How they reply? To our mail???
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How they reply? To our mail???
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Yes Sir, straight to your e-mail .. but remember to make the complaint look like a formal and don't simply make it like this ...

"Dear Sir, I couldn't get Matrics . I got 12A1 . Help me since I'm so poor to afford college fees" or
"It's not fair, why must my stupid friends got the entrance to matrics? I'm more better than him in the SPM, damn it".

Just make it clear and easy to read ..
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haiz. no use talking about bumi and non bumi la. this issue has been going on for many many yaers and i don;t think so it will end soon. try writing letters to all the private companies that u know. to their HR department and tell them that u need scholarship or loan. give it a try..
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haiz. no use talking about bumi and non bumi la. this issue has been going on for many many yaers and i don;t think so it will end soon. try writing letters to all the private companies that u know. to their HR department and tell them that u need scholarship or loan. give it a try..
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any idea where or which company we can try.. list em out... thx for ur help.. we all will b grateful..
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I live in a kwsn Luar bandar in Sarawak. Luar bandar a. It's not easy to study. I never go 4 tuition outside.

And...
i never blame 4 those who r success. i jz blame gvmnt why they r very unfair???
after this wat should i do?
if we rayu then we'll know at 26 of mei. ppl get into mat at 12 of mei. we go in lately sure we far left behind.
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really pity u
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any idea where or which company we can try.. list em out... thx for ur help.. we all will b grateful..
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i pm ed u my msn. lazy to type here.. haha.
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Bahagian Matrikulasi
Aras 6, Blok E15, Parcel E
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Tuan/ Puan,

Membuat Rayuan Untuk Permohonan Program Matrikulasi Kementerian Pelajaran Malaysia Sesi 2008/2009
Merujuk kepada perkara di atas, saya Lim Yan Lue , Nombor K/P (............) ingin membuat rayuan untuk mendapat tempat di dalam Program Matrikulasi Sesi 2008/2009.

2.Situasi kewangan keluarga saya tidak mampu untuk membiayai pelajaran saya untuk menuntut pelajaran saya dalam bidang pergigian . Emak saya hanya bejerja sebagai seorang guru manakala ayah saya tidak bekerja atas masalah kesihatan.Saya mempunyai 3 orang adik beradik . Abang saya sedang menuntut dalam UNISEL.

3.Tambahan pula pencapaian akademik saya dalam SPM amat baik ( 9A1 dan 3A2) dan saya amat aktif dalam aktiviti kokurikulum .Saya memegang jawatan sebagai penolong ketua pengawas dan setiausaha dalam persatuan Bahasa Cina serta penolong bendahari dalam kelab bola tampar pada tahun 2007.Saya juga mewakili sekolah saya dalam pertandingan kaligraphy tionghua ,pertandingan bahas ala-parlimen bahasa inggeris sehingga peringkat daerah. Saya juga pernah mewakili sekolah saya dalam Kuiz Biology dan Walkathon kemerdekaan pada peringkat Zon.

4. Saya amat berminat dalam bidang pergigian . Saya amat berharap bahawa saya boleh mendapat tawaran dalam matrikulasi untuk melanjutkan pelajaran saya.

5.Saya amat berharap bahawa tuan/puan akan mempertimbangkan permintaan saya. Ribuan terima kasih saya ucapkan atas kerjasama tuan / puan . Dengan ini saya sertakan salinan sijil keputusan SPM saya yang telah disahkan dan sijil-sijil kokurikulum saya.

Sekian terima kasih.

Yang benar ,


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okie. this is my draft.. give me some opinions.. use my format if u like to.. for those who need it too... rclxms.gif

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haiz. no use talking about bumi and non bumi la. this issue has been going on for many many yaers and i don;t think so it will end soon. try writing letters to all the private companies that u know. to their HR department and tell them that u need scholarship or loan. give it a try..
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hey sorry.. I'm still not vry familiar with those accesories in this forum.. u PM me means hw am i suppose to check ur "PM"? thx for helping me to get to noe all these things better...

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I've a question .. did getting to matrics already secure you a place to medical or dentistry courses in the future?

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nope unless u score flying colours in their exam.. but at least.. it promise u a bigger chance that u'll get a place in IPTA
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Lim Yan Lue
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Bahagian Matrikulasi
Aras 6, Blok E15, Parcel E
Kompleks Pentadbiran Kerajaan Persek
62604 Putrajaya.                                                                16 APRIL 2008
Tuan/ Puan,

Membuat Rayuan Untuk  Permohonan Program Matrikulasi Kementerian Pelajaran Malaysia Sesi 2008/2009

Merujuk kepada perkara di atas, saya Lim Yan Lue , Nombor K/P (removed) ingin membuat rayuan untuk mendapat tempat di dalam  Program Matrikulasi Sesi  2008/2009.

2.Situasi kewangan keluarga saya tidak mampu untuk membiayai                                                                                                                pelajaran saya untuk menuntut pelajaran saya dalam bidang  perubatan . Emak saya hanya bejerja sebagai seorang guru manakala ayah saya tidak bekerja atas masalah kesihatan.Saya mempunyai 3 orang adik beradik . Abang saya sedang menuntut dalam UNISEL.

3.Tambahan pula pencapaian akademik saya dalam SPM amat baik ( 9A1 dan 3A2) dan saya amat aktif dalam aktiviti kokurikulum .Saya memegang jawatan sebagai penolong ketua pengawas dan setiausaha dalam persatuan Bahasa Cina serta penolong bendahari dalam kelab bola tampar pada tahun 2007.Saya juga mewakili sekolah saya dalam pertandingan kaligraphy tionghua ,pertandingan bahas ala-parlimen bahasa inggeris sehingga peringkat daerah. Saya juga pernah mewakili sekolah saya dalam Kuiz Biology dan Walkathon kemerdekaan pada peringkat Zon.

4. Saya amat berminat dalam bidang pergigian . Saya amat berharap bahawa saya boleh mendapat tawaran dalam matrikulasi untuk melanjutkan pelajaran saya.

5.Saya amat berharap bahawa tuan/puan akan mempertimbangkan permintaan saya. Ribuan terima kasih saya ucapkan atas kerjasama tuan / puan . Dengan ini saya sertakan salinan sijil keputusan SPM saya yang telah disahkan dan sijil-sijil kokurikulum saya.

Sekian terima kasih.

Yang benar ,


(Lim Yan Lue)
okie. this is my draft.. give me some opinions.. use my format if u like to.. for those who need it too...  rclxms.gif
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shouldn't it be pergigian? btw, with your result I suggest you to try for medic instead of dentistry. Medical student easier to get scholarship compared to dentistry. later on, you can do specialise for mouth. go for medic. i think it's better for you. but if you want to go from matric route. MAKE SURE you get 4.00 in your final for matric. or you will not get it. Once you get medical offer to continue degree, you can apply for JPA scholarship. btw, medic applicant from matric have chances to continue degree in oversea.

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i dun wan medic seriously.. and actually medic courses hv tougher competition..
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QUOTE(tinsze @ Apr 16 2008, 07:49 PM)
Lim Yan Lue
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Tuan/ Puan,

Membuat Rayuan Untuk  Permohonan Program Matrikulasi Kementerian Pelajaran Malaysia Sesi 2008/2009

Merujuk kepada perkara di atas, saya Lim Yan Lue , Nombor K/P (removed) ingin membuat rayuan untuk mendapat tempat di dalam  Program Matrikulasi Sesi  2008/2009.

2.Situasi kewangan keluarga saya tidak mampu untuk membiayai                                                                                                                pelajaran saya untuk menuntut pelajaran saya dalam bidang  perubatan . Emak saya hanya bejerja sebagai seorang guru manakala ayah saya tidak bekerja atas masalah kesihatan.Saya mempunyai 3 orang adik beradik . Abang saya sedang menuntut dalam UNISEL.

3.Tambahan pula pencapaian akademik saya dalam SPM amat baik ( 9A1 dan 3A2) dan saya amat aktif dalam aktiviti kokurikulum .Saya memegang jawatan sebagai penolong ketua pengawas dan setiausaha dalam persatuan Bahasa Cina serta penolong bendahari dalam kelab bola tampar pada tahun 2007.Saya juga mewakili sekolah saya dalam pertandingan kaligraphy tionghua ,pertandingan bahas ala-parlimen bahasa inggeris sehingga peringkat daerah. Saya juga pernah mewakili sekolah saya dalam Kuiz Biology dan Walkathon kemerdekaan pada peringkat Zon.

4. Saya amat berminat dalam bidang pergigian . Saya amat berharap bahawa saya boleh mendapat tawaran dalam matrikulasi untuk melanjutkan pelajaran saya.

5.Saya amat berharap bahawa tuan/puan akan mempertimbangkan permintaan saya. Ribuan terima kasih saya ucapkan atas kerjasama tuan / puan . Dengan ini saya sertakan salinan sijil keputusan SPM saya yang telah disahkan dan sijil-sijil kokurikulum saya.

Sekian terima kasih.

Yang benar ,


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okie. this is my draft.. give me some opinions.. use my format if u like to.. for those who need it too...  rclxms.gif
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That should do it. Don't forget to send it to MCA as well. They can help you getting a place in matrix. Heck, with your result, you can apply for JPA/MARA scholarship as well. Anyways, good luck. I'm sure you can get into Matrix.

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Abang saya sedang menuntut dalam UNISEL

it should be : Abang saya sedang menuntut di UNISEL not dalam =X

Situasi kewangan keluarga saya tidak mampu untuk membiayai pelajaran saya untuk menuntut pelajaran saya dalam bidang perubatan

2.Situasi semasa kewangan keluarga saya tidak mampu untuk membiayai pelajaran saya dalam bidang perubatan.Ibu saya hanya bekerja sebagai seorang guru manakala ayah saya tidak bekerja atas masalah kesihatan.Oleh yang demikian,ibu saya terpaksa menanggung perbelanjaan kami sekeluarga.Saya juga mempunyai 3 orang adik-beradik yang masih di bangku sekolah.Abang saya pula sedang menuntut di UNISEL.


hehe edit =x

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z3171600.. are u serious?u think this letter is gud enuf?if yes means i gotta print it out immediately


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Abang saya sedang menuntut dalam UNISEL

it should be : Abang saya sedang menuntut di UNISEL not dalam =X

Situasi kewangan keluarga saya tidak mampu untuk membiayai pelajaran saya untuk menuntut pelajaran saya dalam bidang perubatan

=>Situasi semasa kewangan keluarga saya tidak mampu untuk membiayai pelajaran saya dalam bidang perubatan.
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5.Saya amat berharap bahawa tuan/puan akan mempertimbangkan permintaan saya. Ribuan terima kasih saya ucapkan atas kerjasama tuan / puan . Dengan ini saya sertakan salinan sijil keputusan SPM saya yang telah disahkan dan sijil-sijil kokurikulum saya.


i think it should be permintaan rayuan. heh. baru jiwang. or just rayuan.
try it. make sure in your heart you're going for dentistry in order to help people and not because of getting rich. because we need help from god too.
if you're really sincere in you heart, god will help you.
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of coz i'm sincere,....
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i edit my post above i hope it can help u~ =X

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i edit my post above i hope it can help u~ =X
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alrite gtg now~~ =D good luck for ur letter k~
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alrite gtg now~~ =D good luck for ur letter k~
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post ur final adjustment here. send it with poslaju. make it look special. moreover, you'll be sure that your letter can arrive safely.

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Added on April 16, 2008, 8:21 pmLim Yan Lue
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Bahagian Matrikulasi
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Tuan/ Puan,

Membuat Rayuan Untuk Permohonan Program Matrikulasi Kementerian Pelajaran Malaysia Sesi 2008/2009

Merujuk kepada perkara di atas, saya Lim Yan Lue , Nombor K/P (..............) ingin membuat rayuan untuk mendapat tempat di dalam Program Matrikulasi Sesi 2008/2009.

2. Situasi semasa kewangan keluarga saya tidak mampu untuk membiayai pelajaran saya dalam bidang pergigian.Ibu saya hanya bekerja sebagai seorang guru manakala ayah saya tidak bekerja atas masalah kesihatan.Oleh yang demikian,ibu saya terpaksa menanggung perbelanjaan kami sekeluarga.Saya juga mempunyai seorang lagi adik yang masih di bangku sekolah.Abang saya pula sedang menuntut di UNISEL.

3.Tambahan pula pencapaian akademik saya dalam SPM amat baik ( 9A1 dan 3A2) dan saya amat aktif dalam aktiviti kokurikulum .Saya memegang jawatan sebagai penolong ketua pengawas dan setiausaha dalam persatuan Bahasa Cina serta penolong bendahari dalam kelab bola tampar pada tahun 2007.Saya juga mewakili sekolah saya dalam pertandingan kaligraphy tionghua ,pertandingan bahas ala-parlimen bahasa inggeris sehingga peringkat daerah. Saya juga pernah mewakili sekolah saya dalam Kuiz Biology dan Walkathon kemerdekaan pada peringkat Zon.
4. Saya amat berminat dalam bidang pergigian . Saya amat berharap bahawa saya boleh mendapat tawaran dalam matrikulasi untuk melanjutkan pelajaran saya.

5.Saya amat berharap bahawa tuan/puan akan mempertimbangkan rayuan saya. Ribuan terima kasih saya ucapkan atas kerjasama tuan / puan . Dengan ini saya sertakan salinan sijil keputusan SPM saya yang telah disahkan dan sijil-sijil kokurikulum saya.

Sekian terima kasih.

Yang benar ,


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Not really J-Form, you can go to pejabat tanah to get a letter state that your parent are penjaja, nelayan or something like that, those no need J-form 1. The letter is equivalent to J-Form.
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QUOTE(tinsze @ Apr 16 2008, 06:56 PM)
i dono... ppl sympathy me it hink.. hahaha.. u mean we can apply for scholarships when we enroll in UNI or college?
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of course u can but that is a bit risky...loan is easy ..scholarship is a bit difficult....even MAXIS offer scholarship ma...after u enroll in uni .but i duno the t&c ..becoz i dont like risky things...

QUOTE(Geoffrey @ Apr 16 2008, 06:58 PM)
icon_question.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif U know wat? I think each and every year of the Matriculation is not fair!!! Why??? Bcos only bumiputera got! My fren who get 1A only and others are B C and D and he can get into matric then my others fren that get Straight A 7A 8A 9A can't get into matric. But if Bumi can, chinese can't. Last year 3 bumi got 7A 8A and 9A each one they can get into matric. THis year chinese get more 7A but can't get into matric. Why???

Me myself get 9A can't get into matric. Last year 1malay got 9A in my school yet she can!
I 1 2 to cry!!! icon_question.gif

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aiks u can be sad..or u can be grateful...for me i duno ..im jz speechless...matrik was meant to be 100% bumi..but lately...for political reasons maybe..they open up 10% for non bumi ...hehe .... bumiz always get to study even though their grades are not as good as ours....they dare not deny this fact because it is not a statement,,,, it is a fact. i would say , IMO IMO IMO those bumiz with fairly reasonable standard of intelligence are sent overseas for education already...those left are just... @#*@()$&#(*$@ hehe ...IMO ....just IMO ... judge it for yourself..their educational opportunities and ours....


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Rayuan Untuk Permohonan Program Matrikulasi Kementerian Pelajaran Malaysia Sesi 2008/2009
Merujuk kepada perkara di atas, saya Lim Yan Lue , Nombor K/P (removed)WHY U SHOW EVERYONE UR NAME N IC ??EDIT LA xiao mei mei .. ingin membuat rayuan untuk tawaran Program Matrikulasi Sesi 2008/2009. Dengan ini saya sertakan sebab-sebab yang menyokong rayuan saya.

2. Keluarga saya tidak berkemampuan untuk menghantar saya ke IPTS untuk melanjutkan pelajaran dalam bidang pergigian walaupun itu telah menjadi cita-cita saya selama ini. Ibu saya merupakan seorang guru manakala ayah saya tidak bekerja atas masalah kesihatan. Di samping itu, tiga adik-beradik saya termasuk abang saya yang sedang melanjutkan pelajaran di UNISEL menambahkan lagi bebanan ibu saya.

3. Saya telah menunjukkan keizaman untuk melanjutkan pelajaran ke matrikulasi dengan pencapaian akademik saya dalam SPM yang cemerlang ( 9A1 dan 3A2). Saya juga amat aktif dalam aktiviti kokurikulum. Saya memegang jawatan sebagai penolong ketua pengawas dan setiausaha dalam persatuan Bahasa Cina serta penolong bendahari dalam kelab bola tampar pada tahun 2007. Saya juga mewakili sekolah saya dalam pertandingan kaligraphy tionghua ,pertandingan bahas ala-parlimen bahasa Inggeris peringkat daerah. Saya juga pernah mewakili sekolah saya dalam Kuiz Biology dan Walkathon kemerdekaan pada peringkat Zon.

4. Saya mempunyai minat yang mendalam dalam bidang pergigian. Lagipun itu telah menjadi cita-cita saya selama ini. Selain daripada itu, negara kita kekurangan doktor gigi. Saya berharap supaya diberi peluang melanjutkan pelajaran dan dapat berbakti kepada negara pada masa depan.

Berdasarkan sebab-sebab di atas, adalah diharap bahawa pihak Tuan/Puan dapat memberi pertimbangan yang sewajarnya atas rayuan saya. Kerjasama pihak Tuan/Puan didahului dengan ribuan terima kasih . Dengan ini saya sertakan salinan sijil keputusan SPM saya yang telah disahkan dan sijil-sijil kokurikulum saya.

Sekian terima kasih.

Yang benar ,


(Lim Yan Lue)


it has been a long time ...since i last wrote something in malay..LOL

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in your 4th point. state that

Saya amat berminat dalam bidang pergigian . Ini kerana saya sudah menanam cita-cita utk menjadi seorang doktor gigi semenjak daripada sekolah rendah lagi. Saya amat berharap bahawa saya boleh mendapat tawaran dalam matrikulasi untuk melanjutkan pelajaran saya seterusnya berusaha bersungguh-sungguh untuk mendapat tempat di dalam institut pengajian tinggi awam untuk meneruskan pengajian peringkat ijazah bagi bidang pergigian.
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as a matter of fact , i doubt she should emphasize too much on pergigian..
its an appeal for matrik not uni entry for dentistry.... but you must make a point n say u love dentistry ... oh well but if u say u love to do it in malaysia..its a lie tongue.gif
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as a matter of fact , i doubt she should emphasize too much on pergigian..
its an appeal for matrik not uni entry for dentistry.... but you must make a point n say u love dentistry ... oh well but if u say u love to do it in malaysia..its a lie tongue.gif
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Tuan/ Puan,

Membuat Rayuan Untuk Permohonan Program Matrikulasi Kementerian Pelajaran Malaysia Sesi 2008/2009

Merujuk kepada perkara di atas, saya Lim Yan Lue , Nombor K/P (..............) ingin membuat rayuan untuk mendapat tempat di dalam Program Matrikulasi Sesi 2008/2009.

2. Situasi semasa kewangan keluarga saya tidak mampu untuk membiayai pelajaran saya dalam bidang pergigian.Ibu saya hanya bekerja sebagai seorang guru manakala ayah saya tidak bekerja atas masalah kesihatan.Oleh yang demikian,ibu saya terpaksa menanggung perbelanjaan kami sekeluarga.Saya juga mempunyai seorang lagi adik yang masih di bangku sekolah.Abang saya pula sedang menuntut di UNISEL.

3.Tambahan pula pencapaian akademik saya dalam SPM amat baik ( 9A1 dan 3A2) dan saya amat aktif dalam aktiviti kokurikulum .Saya memegang jawatan sebagai penolong ketua pengawas dan setiausaha dalam persatuan Bahasa Cina serta penolong bendahari dalam kelab bola tampar pada tahun 2007.Saya juga mewakili sekolah saya dalam pertandingan kaligraphy tionghua ,pertandingan bahas ala-parlimen bahasa inggeris sehingga peringkat daerah. Saya juga pernah mewakili sekolah saya dalam Kuiz Biology dan Walkathon kemerdekaan pada peringkat Zon.

4. Saya amat berminat dalam bidang pergigian .Saya amat berharap bahawa saya boleh mendapat tempat di matrikulasi untuk melanjutkan pelajaran dalam bidang ini.Saya berjanji akan berusaha bersungguh-sungguh untuk mendapat tempat di dalam institut pengajian tinggi awam bagi meneruskan pengajian peringkat ijazah dalam bidang pergigian.Seterusnya, berkhidmat untuk rakyat di negara ini.

5.Saya amat berharap bahawa tuan/puan akan mempertimbangkan rayuan saya. Ribuan terima kasih saya ucapkan atas kerjasama tuan / puan . Dengan ini saya sertakan salinan sijil keputusan SPM saya yang telah disahkan dan sijil-sijil kokurikulum saya.

Sekian terima kasih.

Yang benar ,
(Lim Yan Lue)


erm..what u guys think about this one...i added all the point given in here~

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Bahagian Matrikulasi
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Tuan/ Puan,

Membuat Rayuan Untuk Permohonan Program Matrikulasi Kementerian Pelajaran Malaysia Sesi 2008/2009

Merujuk kepada perkara di atas, saya Lim Yan Lue , Nombor K/P (..............) ingin membuat rayuan untuk mendapat tempat di dalam Program Matrikulasi Sesi 2008/2009.

2. Situasi semasa kewangan keluarga saya tidak mampu untuk membiayai pelajaran saya dalam bidang pergigian.Ibu saya hanya bekerja sebagai seorang guru manakala ayah saya tidak bekerja atas masalah kesihatan.Oleh yang demikian,ibu saya terpaksa menanggung perbelanjaan kami sekeluarga.Saya juga mempunyai seorang lagi adik yang masih di bangku sekolah.Abang saya pula sedang menuntut di UNISEL.

3.Tambahan pula pencapaian akademik saya dalam SPM amat baik ( 9A1 dan 3A2) dan saya amat aktif dalam aktiviti kokurikulum .Saya memegang jawatan sebagai penolong ketua pengawas dan setiausaha dalam persatuan Bahasa Cina serta penolong bendahari dalam kelab bola tampar pada tahun 2007.Saya juga mewakili sekolah saya dalam pertandingan kaligraphy tionghua ,pertandingan bahas ala-parlimen bahasa inggeris sehingga peringkat daerah. Saya juga pernah mewakili sekolah saya dalam Kuiz Biology dan Walkathon kemerdekaan pada peringkat Zon.

4. Saya amat berminat dalam bidang pergigian .Saya amat berharap bahawa saya boleh mendapat tempat di matrikulasi untuk melanjutkan pelajaran saya dalam bidang yang saya ingini.Saya berjanji akan berusaha bersungguh-sungguh untuk mendapat tempat di dalam institut pengajian tinggi awam bagi meneruskan pengajian peringkat ijazah dalam bidang pergigian.Seterusnya, berkhidmat untuk rakyat di negara ini.

5.Saya amat berharap bahawa tuan/puan akan mempertimbangkan rayuan saya. Ribuan terima kasih saya ucapkan atas kerjasama tuan / puan . Dengan ini saya sertakan salinan sijil keputusan SPM saya yang telah disahkan dan sijil-sijil kokurikulum saya.

Sekian terima kasih.

Yang benar ,
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erm..what u guys think about this one...i added all the point given in here~
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i think it should be okay already...dont add too much later
merepek-repek only...as long as u sincere i'm sure god will help u =)
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i think it should be okay already...dont add too much later
merepek-repek only...as long as u sincere i'm sure god will help u =)
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honestly the letter is just for formality ....the 'earth' --> (in malay) sitting in the office wont give a damn la.... just fill in all the required form ...hand in all the documents.... get some recommendation letter from MP/DUN ..then gao dim liao ..
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QUOTE(jcheok2 @ Apr 16 2008, 08:45 PM)
honestly the letter is just for formality ....the 'earth' --> (in malay) sitting in the office wont give a damn la.... just fill in all the required form ...hand in all the documents.... get some recommendation letter from MP/DUN ..then gao dim liao ..
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but seriously i hv no idea where to find those important ppl... in my family none of them involve i politics..
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find MP and some high position umno.

i hope i'll get my politeknik and UPU. so that i can leave my slot in matric to be filled for deserving people like you.
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anyway guys becareful when u check at the matriculation web...use ur ic not angka giliran...if u use angka giliran sure it will tell u anda tidak berjaya =__=''
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find MP and some high position umno.

i hope i'll get my politeknik and UPU. so that i can leave my slot in matric to be filled for deserving people like you.
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nope. i'm not very good in fast pace studies. might as well not perform in my matric.

better take safe route such as poli or diploma.

anyway. all the best to you.
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nope. i'm not very good in fast pace studies. might as well not perform in my matric.

better take safe route such as poli or diploma.

anyway. all the best to you.
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actually. i need tips on understanding math or add math or any math while in class. hard for me to master math.

i got problem understanding it in class.

that's why i'm don't want taking matric. don't want to left behind in math.

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wow, this thread is superb, create today and there is over 150+ post. Seems like everyone is not feeling good bout the education in Malaysia.

Anyway, why limit yourself in Malaysia if you are a chinese and according to your previous thread, you know how to read and write chinese ? You can try to apply china or taiwan for their matriculation course, and it is easier to enter their uni for doing medicine also. I have fren who gets no A in UEC get the offer from one of uni in taiwan (not famous), and the fees is quite cheap too, around Rm100k for the whole course. If you are hardworking enough, i think there should be no problem entering National taiwan University.

By considering the education in Malaysia (even 12A also cannot enter the "cheap lak" matrik , yeah it is "cheap", no other country want this shit sijil, only Malaysia Malaysian), i think you should reconsider your decision, don't stay here and fight for the shit, look further. Obtaining a degree in IPTA will only limit you in Malaysia, it is a shame that no IPTA can enter top 200.

Fyi, in singapore, there is something called "poly", and with your result, i think there should be no problem in entering the best one "Singapore poly", try to search for it, but i think the application date is over, try your best to nego with them.

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QUOTE(chen9wei @ Apr 16 2008, 09:52 PM)
wow, this thread is superb, create today and there is over 150+ post. Seems like everyone is not feeling good bout the education in Malaysia.

Anyway, why limit yourself in Malaysia if you are a chinese and according to your previous thread, you know how to read and write chinese ? You can try to apply china or taiwan for their matriculation course, and it is easier to enter their uni for doing medicine also. I have fren who gets no A in UEC get the offer from one of uni in taiwan (not famous), and the fees is quite cheap too, around Rm100k for the whole course. If you are hardworking enough, i think there should be no problem entering National taiwan University.

By considering the education in Malaysia (even 12A also cannot enter the "cheap lak" matrik , yeah it is "cheap", no other country want this shit sijil, only Malaysia Malaysian), i think you should reconsider your decision, don't stay here and fight for the shit, look further.

Fyi, in singapore, there is something called "poly", and with your result, i think there should be no problem in entering the best one "Singapore poly", try to search for it, but i think the application date is over, try your best to nego with them.
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I applied for ASEAN scholarship.. and mid of September oni the result will b comin out ....
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actually. UTM just made it top 200. they ranked 161.
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I applied for ASEAN scholarship.. and mid of September oni the result  will b comin out ....
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hmmm ...... r u spending your time waiting for the result ? What if cannot get it ? Try to search other alternative. With your result, i suppose you are not those spoon feed type person right ?
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hmmm ...... r u spending your time waiting for the result ? What if cannot get it ? Try to search other alternative. With your result, i suppose you are not those spoon feed type person right ?
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I'm not spending my time juz waiting for the result.. juz apply it for in case
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Lock your eyes to some country that precious foreign talent. Eg.

Singapore
Hong Kong

Or those with V cheap fees

Taiwan
China
India
Ukraine

Or those higher standard if you succesful obtain the scholarship

Uk
Australia
Us
New zealand
Canada
Japan.

Anyway, form 6 (STPM) also not a bad choice. If possible, do A level, i think it should be 100% fees waived right ?

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i think she wants to study in malaysia coz she was afraid of not getting sponsorship to go to oberc.
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QUOTE(chen9wei @ Apr 16 2008, 10:04 PM)
Lock your eyes to some country that precious foreign talent. Eg.

Singapore
Hong Kong

Or those with V cheap fees

Taiwan
China
India
Ukraine

Or those higher standard if you succesful obtain the scholarship

Uk
Australia
Us
New zealand
Canada
Japan.

Anyway, form 6 (STPM) also not a bad choice. If possible, do A level, i think it should be 100% fees waived right ?
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the thing is now i aimed for dentistry course... A-level dun help much since the the cheapest medical college in M'sia hv a cry weird rule.. i heard from a student studying there that even we did STPM and A level when we study there we still hv to study their foundation year..
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i think she wants to study in malaysia coz she was afraid of not getting sponsorship to go to oberc.
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Yeah, i agree too ..... And it is a fact that matrik student are easier to get medicine or dentistry.
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Yeah, i agree too ..... And it is a fact that matrik student are easier to get medicine or dentistry.
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wat's oberc?i wana study oversea of coz if i hc the chance.. but since i cant afford it i hv find another way
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i think typo mistake, should be overseas


Added on April 16, 2008, 10:18 pmAnyway, i do agree that the medicine course in Malaysia is good compare to most country . But just the system is too bias.


Added on April 16, 2008, 10:23 pmAnyway, just as what my sister told me, prepare for the worst. You have to think what should you do if you really failed to secure a place in Matrik and failed the asean scholarship.

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QUOTE(chen9wei @ Apr 16 2008, 10:16 PM)
i think typo mistake, should be overseas


Added on April 16, 2008, 10:18 pmAnyway, i do agree that the medicine course in Malaysia is good compare to most country . But just the system is too bias.


Added on April 16, 2008, 10:23 pmAnyway, just as what my sister told me, prepare for the worst. You have to think what should you do if you really failed to secure a place in Matrik and failed the asean scholarship.
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Then tat means i can only go to college and take up loans.. i actually dun mind
to pay bec those loans and stuff as long i can graduated as planned..
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Studying in overseas is great but my parents tell me our house economy can't afford... If get scolarship i'm difficult coz i'm chinese. I never success 4 getting scolarship
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Studying in overseas is great but my parents tell me our house economy can't afford... If get scolarship i'm difficult coz i'm chinese. I never success 4 getting scolarship
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that's the most important point of the whole thing
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that's the most important point of the whole thing
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u've the same kind of problem?
Gvment always thought that chinese is rich enough to send theit child to overseas so they don choose us up.
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You got 12As wei.... your brain is powerful enough to write a letter than normal ppl, unless there is another side of story you dint tell.
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You got 12As wei.... your brain is powerful enough to write a letter than normal ppl, unless there is another side of story you dint tell.
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Wat is the another side of the story u mean?
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that's the most important point of the whole thing
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yeah i also understand that..the cost studying overseas is quite high as well as the living expenses...without scholarships it is really hard to survive except if u r from rich family..=__=''
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yeah i also understand that..the cost studying overseas is quite high as well as the living expenses...without scholarships it is really hard to survive except if u r from rich family..=__=''
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I dunno what should do. Rayuan?
But 1 chinese guy same with my result and same condition last year.
He rayu 3 times but no way..
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I dunno what should do. Rayuan?
But 1 chinese guy same with my result and same condition last year.
He rayu 3 times but no way..
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juz do watva u can do to fight for ur own rights... defend ur priority.. who noes u can succeed?juz do it my fren
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juz do watva u can do to fight for ur own rights... defend ur priority.. who noes u can succeed?juz do it my fren
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Can i use ur exmple letter as my guide to write 4 myself?
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QUOTE(tinsze @ Apr 16 2008, 09:55 PM)
I applied for ASEAN scholarship.. and mid of September oni the result  will b comin out ....
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ASEAN is not bad...but u have to swear to work very hard...it is farking hard....as in the syllabus is the same with our a level but the way they push the students ( FYI if u enter top jc they push u like crap....lousy jc they dont give a d@mn) ...and then u have fight again to get a scholarship and trust me to get scholarhsip or even a place in SG uni for dentistry is not easy...

QUOTE(chen9wei @ Apr 16 2008, 10:04 PM)
Lock your eyes to some country that precious foreign talent. Eg.

Singapore
Hong Kong

Or those with V cheap fees

Taiwan
China
India
Ukraine

Or those higher standard if you succesful obtain the scholarship

Uk
Australia
Us
New zealand
Canada
Japan.

Anyway, form 6 (STPM) also not a bad choice. If possible, do A level, i think it should be 100% fees waived right ?
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people are talking about cheaper alternatives la kawan..... since 13k is expensive for her already , even if u get A lvl waived then undergrad how? no point taking a risk hoping that later on u MIGHT get a scholarship..

QUOTE(chen9wei @ Apr 16 2008, 10:08 PM)
Yeah, i agree too ..... And it is a fact that matrik student are easier to get medicine or dentistry.
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this is a known fact....indeed..

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Studying in overseas is great but my parents tell me our house economy can't afford... If get scolarship i'm difficult coz i'm chinese. I never success 4 getting scolarship
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it is much more difficult for non bumiz to get scholarship....but NOT IMPOSSIBLE !!! i used to think that it is close to impossible until me myself got a few scholarships to go overseas for further studies... it is POSSIBLE just that it is very difficult .... the key is to do more research ... on everything...

1) do research on the availability of scholarships (e.g. bank negara.. they take in alot of chinese esp ..why?? some courses like actuarial science and mathematics... only chinese can do it...)
2) do research on interview techniques
3) do research on your field...
etc etc..

i dontknow but nowadays i see ppl take things not seriously enough...its like people liked to be spoon fed....typical malaysia boleh style... NO this wont work.... scholarships wont fall from the sky... u have to work that extra mile to get it... for instance before i go for an interview/fill in an application form, i will do research on the courses im applying for, the background of the companies offering the scholarships, what are they looking for, what are their businesses about etc etc etc etc etc ... your results is your passport to get into that room, after that u have to impress your interviewers.
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Can i use ur exmple letter as my guide to write 4 myself?
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sure.. if u wan to.. i dun mind..i got help from others and i want to contrubute sth too


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ASEAN is not bad...but u have to swear to work very hard...it is farking hard....as in the syllabus is the same with our a level but the way they push the students ( FYI if u enter top jc they push u like crap....lousy jc they dont give a d@mn) ...and then u have fight again to get a scholarship and trust me to get scholarhsip or even a place in SG uni for dentistry is not easy...
people are talking about cheaper alternatives la kawan..... since 13k is expensive for her already , even if u get A lvl waived then undergrad how? no point taking a risk hoping that later on u MIGHT get a scholarship..
this is a known fact....indeed..
it is much more difficult for non bumiz to get scholarship....but NOT IMPOSSIBLE !!! i used to think that it is close to impossible until me myself got a few scholarships to go overseas for further studies... it is POSSIBLE just that it is very difficult .... the key is to do more research ... on everything...

1) do research on the availability of scholarships (e.g. bank negara.. they take in alot of chinese esp ..why?? some courses like actuarial science and mathematics... only chinese can do it...)
2) do research on interview techniques
3) do research on your field...
etc etc..

i dontknow but nowadays i see ppl take things not seriously enough...its like people liked to be spoon fed....typical malaysia boleh style... NO this wont work.... scholarships wont fall from the sky... u have to work that extra mile to get it... for instance before i go for an interview/fill in an application form, i will do research on the courses im applying for, the background of the companies offering the scholarships, what are they looking for, what are their businesses about etc etc etc etc etc ... your results is your passport to get into that room, after that u have to impress your interviewers.
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noe wat.. not that i dun wana b serious on seeking for financial aid.. i spent weeks surfing the net to find any available scholarships and loans... but it eneded up not much companies wana sponsor for the course i wan.. or those courses are juz for bumi only..

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i don get it too.
ya im chinese
thinking bout surat rayuan too
but tinsze i think u can go for it la because your results more than qualified
unless the government is racism
hate the most these rubbish thing
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the govt need not be racism.... u need not guess about this also ...
it is 90% bumi, 10% non-bumi . it is the official intake quota.... hehe
MALAYSIA BOLEH !!!!
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still donno how to write surat rayuan.
spm graduates nowadays too pampered.

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still donno how to write surat rayuan.
spm graduates nowadays too pampered.
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hey.. i wrote de lar...



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Now .. I'm here to tell u guys my experience when i went to PUTRAJAYA and appeal.. the method of "rayuan secara datang sendiri".. okie... ths who wana appeal better act fast... lots of ppl appealing....okie.. 1st of all.. rmbr to bring ur certified spm slip..the appeal letter isnt vry important.. the person there din even ask for that but i gave her cdoz i typed de.. but in my opinion.. if possible better prepare one.. coz it helps (i think so).then the counter open bout 8:15 am.. then they will ask whether u're from science stream or art sth like then.. then they will give u a form to filled up.. juz mainly ur SPM result and ur own personal details(fon num., address etc).. after that,u submit ur SPM slip and letter... then they will request u to fill up a form bout wat u think about their service . are they friendly... etc..and ask u to giv opinion (which i think this form is meaningless.. u hv to fill it up in frony of them and submit it to the person there.... nobody will ever make any complain in this kinda situation.. so i juz tick sungguh memuaskan for every single question without even reading them ..)then i leave.....tat's all... rclxms.gif

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hey.. i wrote de lar...
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Hei u're chinese right? Do u rayu through MCA?
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Hei u're chinese right? Do u rayu through MCA?
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omg.. not yet.. nearly forgot.. thx alot.. to remind me.. thx thx notworthy.gif
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I jz download the form. In the cocurriculum part, how to fill? Fill marks or..? rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(Geoffrey @ Apr 18 2008, 10:23 AM)
I jz download the form. In the cocurriculum part, how to fill? Fill marks or..? rclxub.gif
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i think u shud check those cert ur skool gave u when u took ur SPMresult.. it's written there.. try and search for it?
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post Apr 18 2008, 10:34 AM


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QUOTE(tinsze @ Apr 18 2008, 10:25 AM)
i think u shud check those cert ur skool gave u when u took ur SPMresult.. it's written there.. try and search for it?
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So it's fill marks la?
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post Apr 18 2008, 10:35 AM


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QUOTE(Geoffrey @ Apr 18 2008, 10:34 AM)
So it's fill marks la?
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i think so...
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post Apr 18 2008, 10:41 AM


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QUOTE(tinsze @ Apr 18 2008, 10:35 AM)
i think so...
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Er... We need prepare for the worst right?
So if can't get wat's ur plan?
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post Apr 18 2008, 10:45 AM


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QUOTE(Geoffrey @ Apr 18 2008, 10:41 AM)
Er... We need prepare for the worst right?
So if can't get wat's ur plan?
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my plan?err.... if cant get then i'll c wheher i can get the JPA offer or not.. then mayb i'll take up loans to study in AIMST....
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QUOTE(tinsze @ Apr 18 2008, 10:45 AM)
my plan?err.... if cant get then i'll c wheher i can get the JPA offer or not.. then mayb i'll take up loans to study in AIMST....
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I might taking A Level or Diploma. But b4 that is Maktab.
My first choice actually is Maktab
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post Apr 18 2008, 10:52 AM


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QUOTE(Geoffrey @ Apr 18 2008, 10:47 AM)
I might taking A Level or Diploma. But b4 that is Maktab.
My first choice actually is Maktab
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wat maktab?
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post Apr 18 2008, 10:54 AM


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QUOTE(tinsze @ Apr 18 2008, 10:52 AM)
wat maktab?
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teacher in 5 year study of bachelor
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post Apr 18 2008, 10:57 AM


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oo.. that's great!!!!
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me oso need 2 do surat rayuan... 2 pendidikan... pay back time!!! urgh!!!
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post Apr 18 2008, 11:02 AM


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try mine format ... i wont mind

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@tinsze.

why don't you go for walk-in rayuan?

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@tinsze.

why don't you go for walk-in rayuan?
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i went edi dear destroyer
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haha.

gud luk then.
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haha.

gud luk then.
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Hi,i m new here. My result is not very good ,i just possess 7As in SPM and the rest is B3. Sure,I fail to get the matrics too. Here i got a simple question , the surat rayuan need to be signed by who?
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QUOTE(Ronk @ Apr 18 2008, 01:22 PM)
Hi,i m new here. My result is not very good ,i just possess 7As in SPM and the rest is B3. Sure,I fail to get the matrics too. Here i got a simple question , the surat rayuan need to be signed by who?
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by urself
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No need signed by principal or anyone else who has higher position? Because some friends
ask me better add one of letter of recommendation. But urs one should be easily got since urs result is very good,good luck!
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QUOTE(Ronk @ Apr 18 2008, 02:07 PM)
No need signed by principal or anyone else who has higher position? Because some friends
ask me better add one of letter of recommendation. But urs one should be easily got since urs result is very good,good luck!
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i dono.. mine juz sign myself.. btw.. if u think is necessary.. find someone to giv u a letter of recommendation.. it helps.. i cant find anyone to giv me one.. too bad
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Hello rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
anyone hv idea about the PISMP ??
is the teracher course..... i am a boy n i wan to be a teacher is tat good to take tis course???
or batter go reyuan matrikulasi n go IPTA?? hmm.gif hmm.gif


n one thing more thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
the surat rayuan for matrikulasi u all write by hand or computer print out???
which batter??? hmm.gif hmm.gif

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haiyo...12A go apply scholarship lar....from those TAR ,SEGI ,TAILOR,they sure have one...
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QUOTE(jimmytan912 @ Apr 19 2009, 12:36 AM)
Hello  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif 
anyone hv idea about the PISMP ??
is the teracher course..... i am a boy n i wan to be a teacher is tat good to take tis course???
or batter go reyuan matrikulasi n go IPTA?? hmm.gif  hmm.gif 
n one thing more  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif 
the surat rayuan for matrikulasi u all write by hand or computer print out???
which batter??? hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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PISMP? i only heard of MEDSI...
being teacher is great despite what gender you are of...
IPTA?? what course you applied for.. i cant find any good courses spared for us NONs...
computer print out will certainly be a better choice..
best of luck
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