Blu-ray titles with DTS HD MA 7.1 is really amazing...

go try..

This post has been edited by apisgogo: Apr 15 2008, 10:05 PM

wah, buying new speaker i guess?

what speaker u hav in mind?

on the other hand, im thinkin to replace my surrounds with bipole speakers... but couldnt get time to demo yet..

not side surrounds. but rear surrounds.

presence speaker output is in conjunction of yamaha DSP program. yamaha DSP program ranging from movie watching, sports, entertainment, concert listening, hall, and so forth. the main idea is to get listener to 'feel' the scene when DSP program is activated. you could read more in google.

so to further enhance this DSP program, here comes the presence speaker into place. but lower end yamaha cant output presence channel + actual surrounds all together in one time.

so to answer your question, to use front or surround back, it depends on the media itself. i oftenly use front presence if i listen to music and concerts, coz i could use the dialog lift effects. Also when listening to music, u could use the theater program whereby it will somehow makes the sound like u in this particular theater. e.g roxy theater and so forth. And also, all the reverb, echos, surround effect can be further exploit if u use presence.

for movie playback, i always use rear surround for full motion effects. dont wanna alter anything coz u might end up losing some effects from the actual studio master.


only RX-Z11 able in outputting all 11.2 discrete, including front presence & rear presence. so u got mind blowing true 11.2 surround around ur asses!

This post has been edited by apisgogo: Apr 16 2008, 05:06 PM

taken from yamaha website:



it more or less adding the surround depth. impressive but not night & day difference.

i dunno abt unique, but its add some effects on the channel. how to say, like when helicopter scene, where the sound is from front to back, this presence will act as continuation after front channel before surround channel. tested it myself.

means not discrete?

ya, perhaps..

maybe i mistakenly read as discrete.. but i do recall read this somewhere..

nvm, like i said its not night and day difference

hm, speaking of an upscaler,

when i play a scene e.g beach scene, my front presence speaker adds somehing like the water splashing sound into the surrounds. when compare to presence speaker off, with presence channel, the beach scene gets more fuller and deeper.

is it consider discrete as well?

when is this year KLIAV?

my room is small 15ft x 7ft..

i able to enjoy full 7.1 surrounds with no clashing what so ever... it depends on your amp avr configuration

calibrate your speakers level using SPL meter.. and u r set.

and another thing, your room acoustics play important role. if got quite diffuser and bass trap to level the sound in the room. gonna add more absorbent later on.

in my case, smaller room, the sound gets more focus.



This post has been edited by apisgogo: May 2 2008, 12:41 PM