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aiman04
post Apr 16 2008, 10:00 AM

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I'm currently on 6.1, the 7th speaker is on its way!

Hope to have 7.1 by this weekend. biggrin.gif

Well, about the room size, I think it's more about the speaker size, not the speaker count.

You can still enjoy 7.1 in small room, just use small ones for the surrounds and calibrate correctly.
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post Apr 16 2008, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(apisgogo @ Apr 16 2008, 10:15 AM)
wah, buying new speaker i guess?

what speaker u hav in mind?

on the other hand, im thinkin to replace my surrounds with bipole speakers... but couldnt get time to demo yet..
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Don't know yet. Haven't even done any survey. That's why I said "hope to have by weekend"!
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post Apr 16 2008, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(clngu @ Apr 16 2008, 04:03 PM)
actually if using powerful AVR and speakers ... 5.1 setup already unspeakable ... don't need 7.1 ... unless you have a very big room

I tried Pioneer most advanced EX Speaker series with AVR LX-70 ... 5.1 setup only ... in around 20'x25' room ... the sound quality unbelievable ... the speaker itself cost >100k and front speaker each weight around 45kg ... so I don't think need 7.1 in this case
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post Apr 16 2008, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(clngu @ Apr 16 2008, 04:14 PM)
I thought you guys are expert and taikor in AV field ... don't tell me you all never see and try Pioneer high-end products before shocking.gif
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post Apr 17 2008, 12:56 PM

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Apr 17 2008, 12:44 PM)
wat u mean u buy original, never look at price?
money not an issue for u, tat i know biggrin.gif

wait, i check with mpyw, last time he bought dirt cheap
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Other then that event, anywhere else in KL to buy SACD?
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post Apr 17 2008, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(Audio Nirvana @ Apr 17 2008, 01:00 PM)
Every record shop also can buy SACDs. Usually they place them in the Audiophile section.
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Really? Never saw any before, maybe have to look harder.

The only SACD I have is "Greatest Film Fantasies" by Erich Kunzel. Hybrid one, and got both stereo and multi-channel audio. thumbup.gif

Thanks to my 80GB PS3, I never listened to SACD before. Sound really nice. Any recommended SACDs? But I'm not into jazz maybe symphony orchestra will do, or any pop artist.
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post Apr 17 2008, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Apr 17 2008, 02:18 PM)
just remember when ripping SACD to your PS3... it'll only rip the CD section (if hybrid disc)..
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post May 1 2008, 09:19 AM

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Before I just put on a stand at about sitting ear height, but I just kept wondering about why the 1800 manual saying I should put the surround speakers at 1.8 meters.

So I tried, all my 4 surround and surround back speakers are now mounted on the wall at 1.8 meters. Only the front speakers around at the TV height, and the centre speaker at it's usual place. Make sure the sub is not facing directly to the wall, must have some angle to allow the sound to travel around the room.

You guys should try it. The surround effect is much much more lively & realistic, sound image more accurate. It's really a lot more enveloping, which is also really good when you listen to music, especially those 5.1 concerts.
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post May 1 2008, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(rx330 @ May 1 2008, 09:49 AM)
aiman, u mean the surrounds shud not be at ear level wen seating down?

shud be above?
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Well, I would not say "should not be" at ear level, it's still up to everyone's own listening taste, but you can try it.

It's just that I read it on my receiver's manual, so I tried it, and now I'm loving it. thumbup.gif

My living room is small, I only use small satellite speakers for the surround and surround back so I can still have 7.1 setup without crowding it too much with big speakers. I'm not much into powerful setup, I only use Diamond 9.1 as my fronts. I also like listening to stereo music too, and the 9.1 is just simply superb. thumbup.gif

When it sounds good on music, it will be good on movies too, but not necessarily the other way around I think.
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post May 2 2008, 07:27 AM

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My living room is only 16x12'. Yet I have 7.1 setup.

If you can hear each directional sound from all different 4 surround speakers, then your room should be qualified to have 7.1. I've been watching 3:10 to Yuma twice since I have the 7.1 setup, and I can hear gunshots and ricochets from every single speakers in the back.

Room size rule is true for ambience, effects, etc. For that, with small room, 5.1 is enough. But for 7.1 discrete directional track, increasingly provided in blu-ray movies/concerts lately, try to have 7.1, maybe using small satellite speakers. If not, the 7.1 will be downmixed to 5.1, and you won't be listening as intended by the filmmaker.

Anyway, my own rules still means my own opinion, everyone has their own preference.

This is my current setup:

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Except my LFE is on the right. The distance between my surround back channels is 5'.

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post May 2 2008, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(rx330 @ May 2 2008, 11:24 AM)
so room small kenot do 7.1 ar?
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QUOTE(Audio Nirvana @ May 2 2008, 11:46 AM)
Imagine if you had Digitalkl's 20ft length, then when a spaceship flies from front to the back, you should clearly hear the sound go from front speaker, then side speaker, then rear speaker, with a large enough delay between each speaker for it to make sense.

But if you have 10ft length only, due to the proximity of the speakers, you'll almost be hearing the sound come from all the speakers at the same time, so yeah, it's gonna be abit messed up as you say. At least if you only have front and rear speakers, you'll have a bigger distance between the speakers to better simulate the movement of the spaceship from front to back.

Hope that didn't confuse you more.
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I never have that problem. Never. Any of you guys already tried or not? To me if your room lentgh is too big, it won't be realistic already. The most important is that the sound image travels to your back surround, meaning just behind you, not all the way to the kitchen!

I don't have a dedicated room, so doors will have to be compromised. Here's my actual layout:

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The white box is where I lie down to watch movies (I like to lie down). The door in the back actually just an opening with curtains that I closes when I watch movies.
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post May 3 2008, 09:08 AM

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QUOTE(megatron007 @ May 2 2008, 03:59 PM)
TUN AIMAN

ur LIVING ROOM DAMM BIG

if u got a 92" screen lagi sedap
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I think you meant Pratt?

 

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