For the 600 series? Cannot be lah.

If I buy two pairs of 685, matching center, and go with the more expensive round PV1 subwoofer also 20k tak sampai.

This post has been edited by Audio Nirvana: Apr 16 2008, 04:05 PM

If I had the 100k, I would rather buy top model B&W 800 series than Pioneer.

With all due respect, the words Pioneer and High End don't go together in my mind. Now I don't doubt they have some serious shit, but the problem is they have too much mass market stuff around.

This post has been edited by Audio Nirvana: Apr 16 2008, 04:17 PM

I think 801D should still be less than 100k.

800D should be in the region of 100k or slightly above.

This post has been edited by Audio Nirvana: Apr 16 2008, 04:57 PM

What I meant was no matter what high end products they produce, their mass market products bearing their same brand name cheapens their appeal somewhat.

For the same price, I can go for true high end brands, even if for no other reason than snob appeal. Which sounds better?
"I have Pioneer speakers.... but they cost 100k"
"I have B&W 800D speakers"
"I have Wilson Watt speakers"

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Added on April 16, 2008, 4:48 pm

This post has been edited by Audio Nirvana: Apr 16 2008, 04:57 PM

Go to Monsoon on Jalan Maarof Bangsar and try speakers like the B&W800D. But beware, they're quite a LCLY bunch.

But I must admit that B&W also have some lower end stuff, so they also cannot be considered exclusively high end. Brands like Wilson Audio not so easy to check out here. Megatron may like their stuff... their speakers look like Transformers.

That's not an inaccurate generalisation. I was going to say that too but Digitalkl saved me the trouble.

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Added on April 16, 2008, 5:09 pmCan it be considered 11.2 discrete if at most, the disc being played is only 7.1?


This post has been edited by Audio Nirvana: Apr 16 2008, 05:09 PM

Nanti DigitalTech kick you in the nuts like your avatar baru lu tahu. Or is that supposed to be dying to pee?

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Added on April 16, 2008, 5:21 pmIf like the way Yamaha explains it, I wouldn't consider it 11.2 discrete. In my opinion, discrete means every one of those 11 channels gets a unique signal.

This post has been edited by Audio Nirvana: Apr 16 2008, 05:21 PM

Perhaps it's like delay the signal then. I'm no expert also but discrete means unique, whereas this receiver seems to be doing is using one of the original 5 or 7 channels, and manipulating it somewhat before sending it to the additional channels. That is not discrete. Those 11 channels can't be discrete unless the disc's audio is recorded with 11 discrete channels, and we all know that there is no such thing.

This post has been edited by Audio Nirvana: Apr 16 2008, 05:46 PM

Ya, I think it won't be night and day difference also. Just fill in the gaps intelligently only, so to speak. Not unlike how an upscaler fills in the blanks by looking at the original pixels beside it, and then making a best guess as to what it should be.

In most cases, you can give deposit to lock in the price and then after the show is over, you go to their shop, pay the balance and take your barang.

Every record shop also can buy SACDs. Usually they place them in the Audiophile section.

OK lah, not every record shop. Speedy may not have.

Woi, niasing, don't come and ketuk me here...

For the filthy language? I see this RX and Digitalkl also always nia this nia that what.

It's not 30k for the 600 series lah. Siao ah?

30k can buy 2 pairs of 805s plus the center speaker already. But not enough for the sub.

This post has been edited by Audio Nirvana: Apr 18 2008, 10:08 AM

http://whathifi.com/home-cinema/archive/20...er-package.aspx

Smallest of the 800 series range is the 805s bookshelf speakers. About RM10k per pair. Add another pair for the rear makes it RM20k. The HTM3S center is also about RM10k, if I'm not mistaken. So RM30k for the 5 speakers.

You can confirm that at Monsoon if you go there this weekend.

http://www.bowers-wilkins.com/display.aspx?infid=818&sc=ht

If you don't want to spend so much, the Dali Ikon 6 speaker package is also very good. That one should be able to get 5.1 for about RM15k. Can check them out in City Square.

This post has been edited by Audio Nirvana: Apr 18 2008, 10:32 AM

No lah, just that of the more mass market brands, B&W is possibly the best. Those real high end type cannot even dream about so don't bother talking about them lah.

Yes, that half dead mall right under Crown Princess. They have one floor there that has many hifi shops. Can't remember the shop name but they sell Linn and Dali.

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Added on April 18, 2008, 10:50 amIf limited to UK brands.... KEF, Wharfedale, Monitor Audio, Tannoy, Mordaunt Short, Mission, Epos

This post has been edited by Audio Nirvana: Apr 18 2008, 10:51 AM

Personally, I would strike off Rogers and JBL from that list. Rogers used to be ok, but they've lost their plot already.