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Home Theatre Will you really go 7.1?
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aiman04
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Apr 16 2008, 04:05 PM
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QUOTE(clngu @ Apr 16 2008, 04:03 PM) actually if using powerful AVR and speakers ... 5.1 setup already unspeakable ... don't need 7.1 ... unless you have a very big room I tried Pioneer most advanced EX Speaker series with AVR LX-70 ... 5.1 setup only ... in around 20'x25' room ... the sound quality unbelievable ... the speaker itself cost >100k and front speaker each weight around 45kg ... so I don't think need 7.1 in this case 100k?
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rx330
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Apr 16 2008, 04:06 PM
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siow.... 100k... we try to maintain it with 1k nia if my avr got more outputs, 11.3 also i do
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clngu
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Apr 16 2008, 04:14 PM
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I thought you guys are expert and taikor in AV field ... don't tell me you all never see and try Pioneer high-end products before This post has been edited by clngu: Apr 16 2008, 04:14 PM
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Audio Nirvana
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Apr 16 2008, 04:15 PM
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QUOTE(clngu @ Apr 16 2008, 04:14 PM) I thought you guys are expert and taikor in AV field ... don't tell me you all never see and try Pioneer high-end products before  If I had the 100k, I would rather buy top model B&W 800 series than Pioneer. With all due respect, the words Pioneer and High End don't go together in my mind. Now I don't doubt they have some serious shit, but the problem is they have too much mass market stuff around. This post has been edited by Audio Nirvana: Apr 16 2008, 04:17 PM
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rx330
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Apr 16 2008, 04:16 PM
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i never even see kuro b4 [:I]
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aiman04
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Apr 16 2008, 04:16 PM
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QUOTE(clngu @ Apr 16 2008, 04:14 PM) I thought you guys are expert and taikor in AV field ... don't tell me you all never see and try Pioneer high-end products before  Expert doesn't mean banker.  What taikor actually means? This post has been edited by aiman04: Apr 16 2008, 04:18 PM
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rx330
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Apr 16 2008, 04:19 PM
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taikor = big brother, leader, kepala
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megatron007
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Apr 16 2008, 04:29 PM
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QUOTE(Audio Nirvana @ Apr 16 2008, 04:15 PM) If I had the 100k, I would rather buy top model B&W 800 series than Pioneer. With all due respect, the words Pioneer and High End don't go together in my mind. Now I don't doubt they have some serious shit, but the problem is they have too much mass market stuff around. 800 series? i guess now more than 100k per pair for front stand Added on April 16, 2008, 4:31 pmcan show me the link for 20" pioneer sub KENG! Added on April 16, 2008, 4:31 pmQUOTE(rx330 @ Apr 16 2008, 04:19 PM) taikor = big brother, leader, kepala like megatron - taikor for decepticon This post has been edited by megatron007: Apr 16 2008, 04:31 PM
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clngu
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Apr 16 2008, 04:32 PM
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Pioneer high-end products never into mass market ... their target is $$ people if anyone has opportunity ... look at Pioneer LX series ... then you get better picture Pioneer EX speaker using Technical Audio Devices' (TAD) ... those who playing AV ... should know TAD anyway, I try to find which AV shop has B&W 800 series for me to test ... then Pioneer vs B&W ... cool
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Audio Nirvana
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Apr 16 2008, 04:33 PM
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QUOTE(megatron007 @ Apr 16 2008, 04:29 PM) 800 series? i guess now more than 100k per pair for front standI think 801D should still be less than 100k. 800D should be in the region of 100k or slightly above. This post has been edited by Audio Nirvana: Apr 16 2008, 04:57 PM
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accs_centre
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Apr 16 2008, 04:37 PM
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To YAMAHA owners..
Some Yammy AV amp has front presence speaker output.. But if u use presence speaker jack, then u cant use side surround speaker..
So, which one will u choose to use?
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megatron007
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Apr 16 2008, 04:39 PM
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i remember the JBL theatre setup b4 in AV fair damm powderful Added on April 16, 2008, 4:40 pmQUOTE(clngu @ Apr 16 2008, 04:32 PM) Pioneer high-end products never into mass market ... their target is $$ people if anyone has opportunity ... look at Pioneer LX series ... then you get better picture Pioneer EX speaker using Technical Audio Devices' (TAD) ... those who playing AV ... should know TAD anyway, I try to find which AV shop has B&W 800 series for me to test ... then Pioneer vs B&W ... cool  fuyoo ELITE mean UR 20" sub woofer by PIONEER also "limited" production? KENG if got chance ...snap me a pic n post here.... wanto "OPEN MY EYE" This post has been edited by megatron007: Apr 16 2008, 04:40 PM
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clngu
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Apr 16 2008, 04:40 PM
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QUOTE(megatron007 @ Apr 16 2008, 04:29 PM) can show me the link for 20" pioneer sub Bro, here is the malaysia website and singapore websiteoops ... I mistaken 20" ... is 20cm ... the largest one is 30cm ... sorry
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Audio Nirvana
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Apr 16 2008, 04:47 PM
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QUOTE(clngu @ Apr 16 2008, 04:32 PM) Pioneer high-end products never into mass market ... their target is $$ people What I meant was no matter what high end products they produce, their mass market products bearing their same brand name cheapens their appeal somewhat. For the same price, I can go for true high end brands, even if for no other reason than snob appeal. Which sounds better? "I have Pioneer speakers.... but they cost 100k" "I have B&W 800D speakers" "I have Wilson Watt speakers" Added on April 16, 2008, 4:48 pmQUOTE(clngu @ Apr 16 2008, 04:40 PM) Bro, here is the malaysia website and singapore websiteoops ... I mistaken 20" ... is 20cm ... the largest one is 30cm ... sorry This post has been edited by Audio Nirvana: Apr 16 2008, 04:57 PM
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clngu
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Apr 16 2008, 04:49 PM
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Bro, Yamaha speakers NS777, NS555, NS444, NS333, SW1500 ... good or not ... I saw them at TBM ... connected to AVR 1800 ... pricing reasonable Added on April 16, 2008, 4:52 pmQUOTE(Audio Nirvana @ Apr 16 2008, 04:47 PM) For the same price, I can go for true high end brands, even if for no other reason than snob appeal. Which sounds better? true high end brands ... please give example ... if it is available here, I will go test it This post has been edited by clngu: Apr 16 2008, 04:52 PM
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megatron007
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Apr 16 2008, 04:53 PM
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QUOTE(clngu @ Apr 16 2008, 04:40 PM) Bro, here is the malaysia website and singapore websiteoops ... I mistaken 20" ... is 20cm ... the largest one is 30cm ... sorry oohh tak apa 20cm izi
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corez
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Apr 16 2008, 04:58 PM
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QUOTE(clngu @ Apr 16 2008, 03:45 PM) not suitable for high-power AVR and speakers cause difficult to position sound movement my room about the size of yours ... am also using 5.1 setup ... my subwoofer is 20" Hmm, maybe I just get myself a 5.1 then. QUOTE(clngu @ Apr 16 2008, 04:03 PM) actually if using powerful AVR and speakers ... 5.1 setup already unspeakable ... don't need 7.1 ... unless you have a very big room How big the room need to be? 4m * 5m enough or not?
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clngu
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Apr 16 2008, 04:58 PM
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QUOTE(megatron007 @ Apr 16 2008, 04:53 PM) oohh tak apa 20cm izi  I DIY one 60cm and paint it black ... empty shell  Added on April 16, 2008, 5:00 pmQUOTE(corez @ Apr 16 2008, 04:58 PM) Hmm, maybe I just get myself a 5.1 then. How big the room need to be? 4m * 5m enough or not? Bro, allow me to check with AV specialist and let you inform ... This post has been edited by clngu: Apr 16 2008, 05:00 PM
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TSDigitalKL
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Apr 16 2008, 05:00 PM
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QUOTE(clngu @ Apr 16 2008, 04:49 PM) Bro, Yamaha speakers NS777, NS555, NS444, NS333, SW1500 ... good or not ... I saw them at TBM ... connected to AVR 1800 ... pricing reasonable
all Japanese speakers are crap.....*quickly run and hide* This post has been edited by DigitalKL: Apr 16 2008, 05:02 PM
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corez
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Apr 16 2008, 05:02 PM
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QUOTE(clngu @ Apr 16 2008, 04:58 PM) I DIY one 60cm and paint it black ... empty shell  Added on April 16, 2008, 5:00 pmBro, allow me to check with AV specialist and let you inform ...  Thanks for your trouble.
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