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vikingw2k
post Apr 13 2008, 12:19 AM

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QUOTE(alwaysCheap @ Apr 13 2008, 12:14 AM)
relax, those words are for business purposes only, meaningless 
If it's meaningless, it shouldn't be there at the first place.

Here are some comments from me,

1# The left and top is too empty. It could be better if you frame it more towards rightside and lower a bit.

2# Flash is too harsh, should frame it slightly lower till her knee so that the top of the picture won't be that empty

3# Composition isn't that interesting, the top is too empty. I would prefer it to be lower and slightly more to the left to frame her with the laptop as well.

4# You could have snapped at a better angle.

5# Hands chopped

p/s: Frankly, the frame is very distracting. Also, it'll look a lot nicer to me with the "Best Wedding & Event Photographer @ Subang Klang" thingy replaced with a humble watermark like what a Real Pro would do.

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post Apr 13 2008, 12:31 AM

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QUOTE(alwaysCheap @ Apr 13 2008, 12:25 AM)
if your guys really want to compare, please post some your own pc fair photos to compare.

actual practice is much much harder than just type some words. 

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I guess you get the wrong concept. Photo Gallery is not meant for you guys to compare each other's picture and there's no point do so. If you were thinking of doing so, you might be in the wrong place. This is a place for us to share our pictures with others and allowing them to leave their compliments or critiques so that we can further improve on that. Kindly take note on that.
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post Apr 14 2008, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(alwaysCheap @ Apr 14 2008, 02:08 PM)
None is expected that today you share ur tips with others, just to help some of them to learn how come back and bite you tomorrow. 

I mean, your guys should help the forum have a good culture first
rather than just keep pressing me or others to share tips. 

Sorry to say this.  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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alwaysCheap,

Frankly, I would suggest you to pickup some basic skills like "Willing to listen and live up with critiques and compliments by others" if you are really into photography. Where ever you post your pictures, be prepared to be commented be it a good compliment or a critique. You don't expect people to give you good ones all the time do you? If they critique, it'll be better if you could ask them why, or at least reply politely to their critiques and analyze their suggestions to improve if they are kind enough to guide you rather than being defensive and start blaming the peoples there saying that "criticizing is a bad culture" or "they just keep pressing me" kinda thing.

Another basic skill that you might wanna pick up is "How to be humble and nice to the people around you".

QUOTE(alwaysCheap @ Apr 14 2008, 02:08 PM)
None is expected that today you share ur tips with others, just to help some of them to learn how come back and bite you tomorrow. 
No, we are civilized humans not animals, we don't educate forumers here to bite people in future. We encourage healthy discussions here. Hope you understand how it works here.

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post Apr 14 2008, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(lynxfeet @ Apr 14 2008, 04:07 PM)
I couldn't agree you more.
I find 2 interesting things here:
1st is the best photos of this pc fair got the most bad comments from travis_ckf and vikingw2k
2nd is people just pump in and keep asking TS about equipments and tips without say a words for TS first, how come people become so selfish nowadays?
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Well, I wouldn't wanna waste much time to comment on your biased statements since you are closely related to alwaysCheap.

Best photos or you are just trying to back each other up? Perhaps you should take a glance at other forumers' gallery before saying these kinda pictures are the best.

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post Apr 14 2008, 07:33 PM

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QUOTE(alwaysCheap @ Apr 14 2008, 06:05 PM)
Just want to say, I dare not to release any tips, since you are here. 
sorry to all ppl who have come to consult me.
You made me LOL-ed hard.

QUOTE(alwaysCheap @ Apr 14 2008, 06:05 PM)
I am not good at reading your english.

thanks  smile.gif  smile.gif
Attending some extra English classes might help you to improve on that.

QUOTE(alwaysCheap @ Apr 14 2008, 06:05 PM)
If you insist on teaching me, please use your own pc fair photos to teach,
I feel that you should really attend some extra classes as I find you having hard time understanding what we are trying to converse here. I've never offered to teach you or what cause I'm not that thick-faced to self claim that I'm a pro and I would rather leave it to the rest to judge as it's not important to me. We are just giving you some genuine comments on your pictures and suggesting some ways to improve them and we'll be glad if you can discuss it in a maturely manner with us rather accusing us of being prejudice to you for criticizing your so-called "Best PCFair shots".

If you are that keen to see some ordinary shots of mine, here are a few for you though I don't really fancy posting in other people's thread. Anyway don't expect much as I've accidentally left my loyal Canon 580exII flashgun at home when I was rushing out.

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post Apr 14 2008, 08:36 PM

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tongyam, this is not the proper place for you to discuss about buying or selling. You may do so via PM or create a thread in Trade Zone.

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post Apr 14 2008, 08:43 PM

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QUOTE(moonstone13 @ Apr 14 2008, 08:38 PM)
There I was silently trolling the forum and chanced upon this thread. Thinking that I would have the chance to see some pics from the PC Fair, I got much more in return.

Dear TS, please do not get the idea anyone is trying to insult you or treat you in a condescending manner. All I've read so far are constructive criticism. There is no need to over-analyze things. We are given two ears to listen more than to utter biased statements.

Here's a little tip, "The mind, like a parachute, works best when it's open."

If you open a thread in the Photo Gallery to only accept the "oohs" and "aahs" and feel uneasy about criticism (constructive mind you) then I advise you to post elsewhere but a share & care forum like this.
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Well said and I love the meaningful quote. smile.gif
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post Apr 14 2008, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(tongyam @ Apr 14 2008, 08:44 PM)
i m not ur fren la, but i do like see ppl sharing

for me, after give comment then diam diam lor, tak suka can chiao mar....no need scold ppl one

luckily i using firefox, if not he thing his power can do anything laugh.gif
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Are you here to share your knowledge on photography? If you are not, kindly go away and play at other place. This is not Kopitiam where you can fool around and we don't need any jokers here.

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post Apr 14 2008, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(Peisqo @ Apr 14 2008, 11:27 PM)
Then what makes you the BEST photographer then ? tongue.gif Btw TS .. may i suggest you another forum ? It's called www.pcfairgirlphotosonly.com/forum ... the people there loves PC fair girls !! Even if your photo is like under, or it looks like direct flash, IT DOESN'T matter ... as long as there are boobs .. people there will say "WOW GOOD PHOTO .. SHARE MORE SHARE MORE" ... I suggest you go there mate... cheers

p/s: oh yea you can promote urself there too ... photographers there all claim they are pro with their underexposed and funky border style .. sharing is caring
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post Apr 14 2008, 11:57 PM

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QUOTE(tongyam @ Apr 14 2008, 11:54 PM)
1) This subforum is for posting photographs and related discussion such as technique and execution (lighting, composition, posing, makeup etc.). Discussion about photographers or models is prohibited.
2) Photographs posted must not exceed 1024px in either width or height.
3) Only post photographs you actually took, not photographs other people took.

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i m wonder rules above still valid? or only starting today?

because......i found this

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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Well, I don't see anything wrong for guiding him to a better path since he himself admitted that he couldn't understand my simple English. Do you have any issue on that? smile.gif


Added on April 15, 2008, 12:01 amtongyam

Enough of that, bring your things back to Kopitiam and whine there (like what you always do) if you are here to flame-bait and not contributing any useful comments on the photos in this thread. Let's keep this thread open for compliments and critiques on the photos.

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post Apr 15 2008, 12:32 AM

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QUOTE(shinchan^^ @ Apr 15 2008, 12:28 AM)
cant believe azmihamzah using Kina frame as well
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He was trying his best to indirectly hint someone. Hopefully that *someone* realize that it's ugly to have such frame despite being commented by a few others earlier on smile.gif

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post Apr 16 2008, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(alwaysCheap @ Apr 16 2008, 08:00 AM)
pc fair photos are always welcome, we just hate people act good by shooting others.

btw: your photos are nice, let me borrow 1 to promote my post.  icon_idea.gif

Moderation : Do not quote the pictures. Kindly spoiler them.
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We encourage people to post more pictures here AND be humble plus able to accept comments to improve themselves NOT being a cocky person trying to act as if they are the best when their pictures are not even on par with what they claimed to be.

On the other hand, we are not in shooting range here. If you think that critiques are like shooting you directly to your face with a gun, then maybe you shouldn't post your pictures at here since you can't even live up with some genuine comments by the forumers here.




 

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