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Technical DIY Xbox 360 air cooling setup, In the neverending quest to fight 3ROD

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post Apr 15 2008, 11:02 AM

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hi TS, you mentioned that u mount 70mm fans on the bottom rite, is it blowing air in or sucking hot air out?
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post Apr 15 2008, 06:29 PM

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QUOTE(daijoubu @ Apr 15 2008, 08:46 AM)
I've noticed too that the holes on the other side (top) is larger than those that of the bottom grill, which shows that MS really did botched up the desing of the xbox. Such a pity. Anyway thanks for sharing your experience. I did wanted to put a fan on the top too, but the hole is too small. Perhaps a shroud will do, but i have no time to make a proper shroud at the moment sad.gif.

Some updates, after using the fan at the side, it seems that the temperature did not decrease as much as when putting the fan on the rear. This blows out my whole initial theory >.<.

edit : By the way, what type of 80mm fan you used at the bottom? I've used 70mm fans, mounted right next to the grill. The static pressure of the fan isnt strong enough to overcome the grills, which i believe is the reason to blame why that setup doesnt cool the xbox significantly better than mounting it on the rear (which has larger grill holes).
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Good day,

Aiyoh i've forgotten to take pics of my xbox ...... I wouldn't say you've blown your theory. There is air going in but it's not enough to reach the GPU side. I use 2 coolermaster fan to blow from top and bottom side of the xbox.

I'm gonna further my plan. My xbox warranty already just pass so I will Open it. I'll be waiting for somestuff to arrive. It's a very simple mod but looks pretty good as well.

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I have ordered WhisperMax, the Plastic Casing that goes on top of the heatsink and Fan all will be replaced. As you can see I'm gonna cut a hole on the casing to fit a 70 mm fan and I just wanna put acrylic so can see thru .... the sponge idea i've got it from XCM fanconcept as well. It's a very good idea cuz it directs the air to the heatsink till the rear. So it's gonna be pretty silent and awesome ....hahaha

But there's one thing I'm pretty concern is DUST .... sweat.gif

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post Apr 15 2008, 06:35 PM

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Dust can't be avoided~

more fan more dust.. more speed to the fan to extract hot air

which also more dust sweat.gif
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post Apr 15 2008, 06:39 PM

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QUOTE(DjiNn @ Apr 15 2008, 06:35 PM)
Dust can't be avoided~

more fan more dust.. more speed to the fan to extract hot air

which also  more dust sweat.gif
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If got dust no choice la ...... Bring to my office and use my air compressor to blow everything out .....

That is how i clean my PC office and it's REALLY effective ....HAHAHAHA
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post Apr 15 2008, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(MSA @ Apr 15 2008, 06:29 PM)
Good day,

Aiyoh i've forgotten to take pics of my xbox ...... I wouldn't say you've blown your theory. There is air going in but it's not enough to reach the GPU side. I use 2 coolermaster fan to blow from top and bottom side of the xbox.

I'm gonna further my plan. My xbox warranty already just pass so I will Open it. I'll be waiting for somestuff to arrive. It's a very simple mod but looks pretty good as well.

[attachmentid=444420]

I have ordered WhisperMax, the Plastic Casing that goes on top of the heatsink and Fan all will be replaced. As you can see I'm gonna cut a hole on the casing to fit a 70 mm fan and I just wanna put acrylic so can see thru .... the sponge idea i've got it from XCM fanconcept as well. It's a very good idea cuz it directs the air to the heatsink till the rear. So it's gonna be pretty silent and awesome ....hahaha

But there's one thing I'm pretty concern is DUST .... sweat.gif
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Good stuff man thumbup.gif Got at least 1 person interested in the same idea as mine. But unfortunately one of my constraint is that i cant void the warranty, which serves as the greatest challenge to setup a proper cooling system onto my Xbox.

Anyway, i have thought of dust, and the only was is to filter the intake. This wont eliminate it for good, but it'll greatly reduce the amount. But to filter the intake, you'll need a fan with a high static pressure so that it'll be able to push the air through. To achieve this, you can do two ways :

- to maintain aesthetics, you can opt to use a high speed 80mm, but the draw back is that it is VERY noisy. be prepared to use at least 45++dBa fans. standard 80mm filters can be used. best is to use two fans to obtain a good enough air flow

- to maintain silence, you need to use a larger fan, like a 120mm fan, and use a shroud to reduce the size to the inlet area. you'll have a more silent operation, more CFM, but its bulky and looks ugly (hard to blend it into the xbox). there is a catch here tho. using the shroud, you have to design the shroud in a way that the outlet hole total area does not differ much of the inlet area. if its too big, then you'll lose pressure, if its too small, you'll most likely constrict the air flow

My intention is to actually do trial and error for both of these method and see which works best. Progress is slow cause im trying to source some parts to make the shroud sad.gif. I could either opt to makeshift my own shroud from cardboard or aluminium sheets, or an easier method is to buy a broken intercooler or fan stand (nyko, pelican, or 3rd party), rip out the old fan, and put the new fan in and use it as a shroud.

Hope you have better progress =D. Update us too ya.
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post Apr 15 2008, 09:30 PM

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Here what i did to my xbox.

Unfortunately I've accidently broke one of my fan before I've started to take this picture and I've replace the rear fan with one of my spare fans. As you can see i've elevated the bottom part so the heat from underneath can escape somewhere.

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post Apr 15 2008, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(MSA @ Apr 15 2008, 09:30 PM)
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Here what i did to my xbox.

Unfortunately I've accidently broke one of my fan before I've started to take this picture and I've replace the rear fan with one of my spare fans. As you can see i've elevated the bottom part so the heat from underneath can escape somewhere.

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Looks good bro. Could you get me the model number of the fans on the Nyko?

Also, i can see that you use a 120mm fan next to the intake. I tried that but i feel very little air flow into the case because of the lack of shroud, and the very small holes of the grill sad.gif
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QUOTE(daijoubu @ Apr 15 2008, 09:46 PM)
Looks good bro. Could you get me the model number of the fans on the Nyko?

Also, i can see that you use a 120mm fan next to the intake. I tried that but i feel very little air flow into the case because of the lack of shroud, and the very small holes of the grill sad.gif
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I'm kinda watching show right now brows.gif my xbox becomes the best multimedia player. With a Thumbdrive (8gig) plug it in .. walaa ..hahahah

I'm trying to get 50mm fans to replace the current one. The noise is TERRIBLE .....
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post Apr 15 2008, 10:05 PM

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QUOTE(MSA @ Apr 15 2008, 09:49 PM)
I'm kinda watching show right now  brows.gif my xbox becomes the best multimedia player. With a Thumbdrive (8gig) plug it in .. walaa ..hahahah

I'm trying to get 50mm fans to replace the current one. The noise is TERRIBLE .....
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Haha noisy but is the CFM it push good? Could u get me the model number of the fan? I cant see it properly cause your picture is blur. Want to find out more about the fan's specs smile.gif
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post Apr 15 2008, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(daijoubu @ Apr 15 2008, 10:05 PM)
Haha noisy but is the CFM it push good? Could u get me the model number of the fan? I cant see it properly cause your picture is blur. Want to find out more about the fan's specs smile.gif
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I'll PM the model no. later ... I can't really say .... hahaha but most of the time it's just warm
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post Apr 20 2008, 02:07 AM

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@MSA u copied my idea smile.gif take a look
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=591459&hl=
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Guys, i'm gonna put this project on indefinate postponement because of a major change in my life. In fact my whole xbox gaming will be on hold for a while as i readjust to this change in life.

To the rest of you, happy gaming.
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post Apr 22 2008, 05:40 PM

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huhu... who'll continue this project?
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post Apr 28 2008, 10:39 PM

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Hi all,

I have an external fan mod to share, which is what I use on my xbox 360. The idea is actually borrow from lightonokira. notworthy.gif

Total cost: RM 40
1. 12cm Fan - RM 35 (bought from lelong)
2. Molding cardboard - RM 5

Diagram:
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Updated with latest diagram in actual size.

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post Apr 29 2008, 03:05 PM

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@wongyewloong : Is it connected into an adapter?
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QUOTE(seanlee89 @ Apr 29 2008, 03:05 PM)
@wongyewloong : Is it connected into an adapter?
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Direct To Normal Power Plug.
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post Apr 29 2008, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(wongyewloong @ Apr 29 2008, 04:22 PM)
Direct To Normal Power Plug.
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Did you do it youself? If yes, can you please teach me how to do it? Thanks.
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QUOTE(seanlee89 @ Apr 29 2008, 05:25 PM)
Did you do it youself? If yes, can you please teach me how to do it? Thanks.
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Yes, My friend and I did it together in the office smile.gif

What you need to do is:
1. get the stuffs i mentioned above (make sure the cardboard you bought is hard/strong enough to hold the fan.)
2. draw the diagram out on to the cardboard with the actual unit measurement size. (What i did was print to a paper 1st and then trace it to the cardboard)
3. slowly cut the card board to the shape of the diagram.
4. slowly bend the card board to form the shape like the one in the photo and stick the smaller piece to the bottom part.
5. put the fan in, screw it tight.
6. done.

Hope this can help.

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post Apr 29 2008, 08:00 PM

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QUOTE(wongyewloong @ Apr 29 2008, 05:59 PM)
Yes, My friend and I did it together in the office smile.gif

What you need to do is:
1. get the stuffs i mentioned above (make sure the cardboard you bought is hard/strong enough to hold the fan.)
2. draw the diagram out on to the cardboard with the actual unit measurement size. (What i did was print to a paper 1st and then trace it to the cardboard)
3. slowly cut the card board to the shape of the diagram.
4. slowly bend the card board to form the shape like the one in the photo and stick the smaller piece to the bottom part.
5. put the fan in, screw it tight.
6. done.

Hope this can help.
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Ooops..sorry for not being clear, I was actually asking about the fan to the power source. Sorry and thanks ! tongue.gif
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QUOTE(seanlee89 @ Apr 29 2008, 08:00 PM)
Ooops..sorry for not being clear, I was actually asking about the fan to the power source. Sorry and thanks !  tongue.gif
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no problem, the fan i bought already come with the power plug adapter.

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