hye great people of LYN,
im opening a rehearsal/jam studio soon...
i just need help on choosing guitars amps...
im a drummer so i dont know much about guitar stuff...
i have a list of amps that i already view and test with my friends...
and the price is somewhere there~

fender deluxe 112 plus (used) : RM1800
marshall mg100dfx (new) : RM1850
ashton ga100 212 : RM1600
peavey studio pro 112 : not sure
vox valvetronix ad100vt : RM1600

help me by voting ur fav...and please include ur reason if u have time....

and one more thing, what do you guys think about Wharfedale P.A system?

thanks in advance...

p/s : if possible, make it fast people, because im planning to book the fender (2 units) today~

vox hands down

I have voted Vox as well.

Vox. Lots of presets, and great volume too.

Vox, hands down.

peavey, it takes pedals well, and it's a very durable(?) / reliable amp. dun really like modelling amp for jamming. hehehe.

Players point of view:
VOX or Peavey

Business point of view:
Marshall MG
VERY Durable . resale value higher . make your studio looks really good ( with yellow lights ) , wont get "outdated" so fast like peavey amps

yea, for studio use i would go for the marshall mg.
also takes abuse pretty well

thanks people,

but i heard that marshall will not sound good when its getting heat up due to long jam session....

and the vox is hard to take care of the electronics, like line 6 amps?

whats ur opinion?

ive tested the ashton, sounds good, anyone using this amp? gimme some review...

and how about the fender? no one voting for fender amps?

The Vox would be the best choice. But if you get a Peavey 5150, i'll jam at your studio every weekend! Haha.

my guitar teacher has both marshall avt and peavey bandit. there is once both amp had to be switch on very long time ( not sure the time) due to continuous jamming from lotsa ppl, the avt is burned, and the peavey survived.

Aiya, get all 3 vox, peavey and marshall then you get more customers.


Kau tim lah.


Can use one for lead, 2 for rhythm guitars when jamming.

vox ftw... and i second the peavey... when i was a student my hsemate own the peavey... the drive channel is superb... we even brought it to studio to jam..

anyway..

why wouldn't you buy Laney Hardcore Max ..or LX wtv the newer series is ..

Thats a pretty solid amp that takes pedals well and its cheaper than marshall and vox..

If you wanna go for tone ...aiya..get Cube60 only la..so many people familiar with microcube

This post has been edited by gapnap: Apr 11 2008, 04:17 PM

hmm...anyone know the price of that peavey studio pro 112???

i like the idea of 2 different amps...
so far i can see most ppl prefer vox and marshall.....
1 thing i want to know, that vox amp is using tube???

my friends also mostly prefer marshall,
but some of the pros dont recommend marshall as it will blow when its getting hot~
some others asking me to get the peavey...
and mostly ask me to avoid laney....
this is based on reviews and guitarist friends..

hmmm...i was supposed to book the fender today, haha...
looks like i will have to change my mind....
fender really that sucks ah?

What amp is best for modern metal sounds ? Mesa Boogie?

I think his whole studio costs less then a Mesa Boogie Half Stack.........

The Peavey would be a good idea. Since this will be used for a studio, durability and maintenance should be factored in. Solid states sounds like a good idea, one that is very pedal friendly.

The Vox has great tone, but if say the tube wears off, its quite a pain to replace. Access to the poweramp section is like going through a maze.
But, I believe the Vox would have the best tone out of those few?

Objective post ends here, +1 on the Vox. Not sure how much abuse it can take though, so if durability is the top priority I think solid states is where you wanna be looking.

don't get Laney ? WTF ...Laney is like THE PEDAL amp for me man...

anyway...why not try Behringer...my Studio uses all Behringer ..bass amps , guitar amps ..
Quite Ok wurt...

Where is your studio gonna be

+1 on the VOX, either that or the CUBE. It could make any el cheapo studio guitars sounds better .

sorry guys. i would go for the fender amps. coz it's classy and i like the warm tone that it produces. plus, resale value will be also ok.

but if it's a 2nd hand fender amp u buying as stated in the starting of the thread. It's kinda risky.........

ok guys, how about a vox valvetronix 50w and a roland cube 60w? with hartke bass amp a100w? nice combination?

I like that combo.Don't get the Marshall MG,I never liked that amp.Or if can,then go for Ceriatone la!Support local

i would still go for marshall , its realiable with the long warranty and i love the tone

i think ill go for all roland cube series amps , guitars and bass..
tried them yesterday, owh it sounds awesome!
anyone have other opinion, speak it out before i buy them~

so the current plan for my setup are :
roland amps with boss foot switch.
sx pirate series guitars and bass
wharfedale p.a system.
pearl drums with evans skin and sabian/headliner cymbals.
and might be using my pearl joey jordison snare or ill but a new tama picollo...depends... hehe~

and the renovation is currently 70% done. owh i cant wait~

This post has been edited by art_tech: Apr 29 2008, 02:58 AM

My opinion ? I think you're overpaying for average gear that only sound good in the bedroom.

The people I talked to usually don't have much good things to say about roland's product (except maybe microcube based on price vs benefits ratio).

Amps above the microcube of Roland's line are usually either too expensive or not oomph enough, not gigable quality, for the cost/benefit ratio that you get with other amps.

This came right off the mouth of sales people who're authorized dealers for roland. They're supposed to promote roland, but apparently the young salesman I know is way too honest with his opinions, I hope his boss doesn't hear what he said.

Roland also doesn't take customer opinions into consideration based on some threads I read, or else they would not have come up with that overpriced junk called cube street, and probably soon, the microcube rx.

Then again, they have a good network in Malaysia so support is one thing you should not worry about compared to other brands.

I think you should at least have 1 preamp-tube based amps for the tube lovers. Otherwise you might lose quite a few of potential clients.

Cater for both solid state and the tube crowd lah.

hmm....

ok as far as i can see, there's not much difference in price between the roland cube60, vox valvetronix and a marshall, the roland is even cheaper than a vox 50w....

i dont know much about guitar stuff,
but for the few weeks, ive been moving around to guitar stores, testing almost all brands of combo amps available, and the best sound that i heard is from the roland, and plus, the interface is very user friendly...and its cheap, easy to handle, small yet powerful...
and it received a rating of 9.3 from ultimate-guitar.com....and 9.0 rating from harmony-central.com........
while vox valvetronix is 8.7 and mg100dfx is 8.6...

oh and my budget is only for a small studio for jamming,
i cant afford tube amps yet la bro

hmm...roland amps really not that good ah?
but every guitarist i met are looking for roland jazz chorus, they even willing to pay high price for a 2nd hand jazz chorus...and that guitar technician from js dont even wanna sell it to people.......

im learning, sorry~




or maybe ill stick to my previous plan? a cube60 and a valvetronix~

This post has been edited by art_tech: Apr 29 2008, 04:30 AM

I didn't say you must have a full tube amp mar. The vox valvetronix series are pre-amp tube hybrids. For marshall I think it's the AVT series but I am not sure about the price. The problem is the guitar stores I visit will only show the MG series, not the AVT. I've never seen one yet in my area. Try to check out the marshall AVT series if you can, they should be the ones we compare to the vox valvetronix series.

Rolands sound good, but from what I heard they don't hold up well in gigging environments unless you pay more for the more oomph versions, when you could pay less for other amps at lower wattage and still get decent giggable volume/tone from them.

Should not compare the same wattage when using roland, since it seems their amps are underpowered when comparing other amps among the same wattage/price level.

But since you said your jamming studio is a small room, I guess giggability is not priority, but support, tone quality and price.

I'm saying I am happy with the price I pay for microcube, but if go up the chain, might be worth to take a look at other amps.

Did you know the microcube rx has just been released and the asking price is rm 990 ? That sorta give you an idea what sort of premium image Roland is trying to project with their overpriced underpowered amps, though they do have nice tone.

Metal freaks should love the roland cubes and vintage tone lovers will love the vox valvetronix.

This post has been edited by bman: Apr 29 2008, 04:48 AM

or get the Vox VTXL series and you get the best of both vintage and modern tones

But if you're running a studio, come to think of it, stick with a solid state amp. Tubes, if not kept properly (even the pre-amp types), can be broken down easily and is quite fragile. Just keep that in mind.

I'd agree with the Vox and Roland.I don't really like the idea of the MG. Perhaps an AVT?The AVT seems fine to me.

Let's be realistic. Those young fellas who go to your studio to jam wont play jazz. cos they dont know how to. They are gonna play alternative, rock, metal. So the practical amp for these 'dirty' music is Marshall.

I'm letting go of my Roland Cube-30X. Interested?

bman,
oh man, i guess u are wrong about the cube60.
i just bought 2 units, and yesterday i take it to the studio for a test run,
i connect it to a marshall cabinet,
i gotta tell u guys, this amp sounds superb!!!!
even the line 6 head and cab next to it doesn't sound that great!
and my guitarist and other guitarist there love it so much!
my guitarist don't even take out his stompboxes, he absolutely love the preset amps!
this amp rocks!! and we are going to use it during gigs~
underpowered u said, and not practical for gigging?
then plug it to a speaker cabinet, or u can directly output it to monitor, or a simple solution, mic it!!

i recommend this amp for users who's looking for cheap price , small portable size, great sounds, a super easy user friendly interface, and great functions with a 'roland' quality!

it can serve all kind of tunes, from jazz, to 70's to 90's, and to even metal!

This post has been edited by art_tech: May 11 2008, 12:54 PM

^
+1 to the cube.
since i "upgraded" to a microcube, i dont even use my stompbox anymore

Aiyo please lah you connect anything to a cabinet (furthermore a Marshall cabinet) then there's no issue with underpower. By itself the amp speakers no oomph lah.

Like that you can probably even connect the damn Zoom G1 or Amplitube/other PC software amps and get giggable volume to a full range system or mic the thing as you said (connected to another smaller pre-amp or something)

The problem with the cube series is the effects are not chainable and you cannot do much with the effects together and they have no effects loop. Other than that, the amp modeling is damn fine though. The dealbreaker is probably the price of course,if you can get it cheaper than other similar models then worth it.

Well anyway, not a wrong choice if you got it for a good price. After all they're easier to maintain and plenty of good support in Malaysia. Don't put too much hope in the efx functions because you'll get bored of them pretty quick.

Anyway have a read here.

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=597868

you know that ceriatone is recognized worldwide ? that'd be great if a studio could use their amps in malaysia... you're located at the source but of course, they're quite expensive.

and for "average" jam studio, i think i'd go for solidstate heads + cabs, rather than combos. At least if something breaks, then you can still use the part that is still ok.

all that is just a thought, because the choice has already been done.

I know I'm no moderator or anything but I find that expression a bit unnecessary and uncalled for...

Well, best you stay away from tubes if you don't want to spend every minute worrying when some kids go in and turn all the knobs on the amp without knowing what they're doing. I would recommend either a Cube or Valvetronic.

This post has been edited by fatboythin: May 12 2008, 03:55 AM

but with tube amps, you can really raise the price of your studio.. and kids like us, "lowyat punks", wouldn't be able to afford such hi end studio

marketing tricks...

For my own liking of tonality

I'd say Marshall MG series are the worst

And that's my ears. And my review is based on the half stack MG and another 30 watter MG.

marshall 100100dfx are much better than its 10 or 30 watter MG..its cant be compared equally

based on my experienced running a studio
MG100 is the best..we do not know who the hell play at your studio..how good he play..so MG100 can take the abuse!hehe..and repair cost wouldnt be so much rather than other tube amp

we use Fender deluxe 112 also as our another guitar amp..this sounds much better if the guitarist are good

both amp has survive for a plenty hour of jamming session and a dozen of event and running till now

avoid tube amp in jamming studio unless u hav a lot of tube spares
dont put those amp on the floor..elevate it a few 2 feet will be enuff

peavey bandit also suitable but again,,these are tube amp
just my 2 cents~

+1 Ceria tone

I'm baaaaaaaaaaccckkk...!


my studio has these 3 combos..

1) 2004 marshall avt150[1x12]- used 3-6 hours a day
2005 - DSP FX malfunctioned, amp still working 4 channels
2006 - replaced speakers, ripped due to battle of the bands

2) 2004 ibanez tb100r[2x12]- used 3-6 hours a day
No problems, never left the studio due to its weight

3) 2007 fender fm212[2x12]
My backup amp, also for events and gigs


From what i see throughout the years.. Most guitarists would look for a familiar amp.. in this case my AVT. The solid tone really kicks out the TB100r.

go for vox valvetronix ad100vt